Wow, just a year ago I couldn't find much videos about bowing walls supporting. Only ads without any useful information. Thank you for sharing this video, I learned a lot and I think I'm ready to fix my really bad basement 😅

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

Tosik Dwane I had the same issues 5 years ago when I did my first basement. Every time I did research I felt more confused. Happy this helped. Good luck on your project.

@antons.5556

3 жыл бұрын

@@handylandlord thank you!

I like it, straight forward no bull shit approach. I am going to try it on my bowed basement wall. Thanks

Noticed it's a new channel. Good content keep it coming.

@handylandlord

4 жыл бұрын

Stormy Winters Thanks!!! Trying my best. Appreciate the encouragement!

Thanks for the video man. I've got a client who received an astronomical bid for carbon fiber straps. thanks to your video, I can get it done for half the price and with actual steel instead of a stupid band-aid lol

@handylandlord

4 жыл бұрын

EthanAllen1775 No problem. I’ve seen a few places with carbon fiber straps not sure I really believe in them. Haha. Definitely think steel I beams are better. If you buy the beams I’d be interested to know your price per beam. Good luck on your project.

@870Slager

3 жыл бұрын

@@handylandlord I bought 4inch I beams like the one's you're using. I ordered them with a gray primer coating and I think they were around $118 a piece. I live near Chicago, so everything around here is a bit pricey. What do you normally pay?

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

EthanAllen1775 EthanAllen1775 I normally pay around $75 not painted. $118 doesn’t sound bad at all especially if they are primed. Thanks for the info. Good luck.

@870Slager

3 жыл бұрын

Also, do you fill behind the beam with mortar/cement if there's still a gap after jacking?

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

EthanAllen1775 Yes I do. I like to apply pressure with the screw jack. Once I feel all movement is done. I install a piece of metal between the concrete slab and the beam. Cement in the bottom of the beam. Then I fill the gap behind the beam with mortar mix to prevent future movement of the blocks not touching the beam.

Thanks man, your video was awesome. Very clear explanation and useful content I think you saved me about $10k

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

That's awesome. It is definitely a lot of work, but worth it. The best results I've gotten is from excavating and sealing from the outside. Thanks for watching.

@adamthomas9279

4 ай бұрын

@@handylandlordhey sir. When you are ready to lock that beam into place is it as simple as pouring concrete around it and waiting for it to dry?

Great video, most people just put bolts in the floor to hold the base but you cut the concrete. I like think putting the base into concrete is the best solution.

Looks great man! I appreciate the tutorial!

Excellent video.

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Very helpful thanks for making it

Box system in junk they should have took out the old drain tile and installed ADS pipe...I see why you are still having issues with the wall coming in.....You did a great job on beams...

Great video....what kind of jack are you using? are these available at auto parts stores? Keep up the good work.

@handylandlord

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. The jacks are called screw jacks 15 ton made by jet. I’ve had them a long time but I believe I ordered them from northern tool. I added a link to the jacks in the description.

So once the jack is pressing the beam against the wall do you pour the concrete and wait for it to dry then remove the jack? So if you wanted to bust out an entire wall in a day you would prolly need a few of those jacks.

Great video! Just put beams up on one wall in my basement. How did your city handle the inspections? Thanks

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

Zachary Goddard Thanks! This is my personal home. Still need to add beams to a few more walls. Unfortunately, I’ve been distracted with trying to get rental properties done and rented. Planning to finish the job this winter. Will update in future videos.

Excellent job!!! What size of I beam did you use? Please provide some details on the I beam if you could. Much thanks!

@handylandlord

7 ай бұрын

Im not a steel expert( 4inch I beam wide flange 13lbs per foot). I use a company called Alro steel

I have a drain system installed around the perimeter of my basement that leads to a sump, when installing the I beams could I just leave the drain pipe in place and just work around it? I saw that you cut a type of tile system in this video but I was wondering what you did after that!

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

Jacob Huey yes you should be able to work around the system you have in place as long as there is enough room between the wall and pipe for your beam. Normally, the top of the drain pipe Is flush with the top of the footer. In that case your beam install would be easy. The drain pipe would not get in the way. My situation is a little different the system you saw me cut out was on top of the old clay tile system. I’m planning to install new drain pipe over to the sump pump. I was mostly worried about getting the wall supported before if got any worse. Thanks for watching. I will post more about this basement in the future.

My cinder blick wall is pushed in by 4 inches at the bottom. The bottom course is still in it’s place as it’s up against the cement floor. Do you think we can use this system to push the wall back that far? Soil will be dug out and we’ll place temporary supports to raise joints by a 1/4 inch over head.

@handylandlord

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely you can use this method to push the wall back into place. You may have to push the wall back then reposition the beam and or the jack. I would make sure to support the cinder block wall before digging outside. These screw jacks are the best method I have found to put tension on the beam to push the wall back into place. Just go slow and try to push the wall evenly. Good luck on your project. Keep us updated on how it goes. amzn.to/305NbKU

Did you feel you had to excavate? I was looking to do a similar thing on my house in peninsula but with the intent to get the beams to move the wall then go back and reinforce the wall with #4 rebar and mortar from the top of the wall filling the cavity. Once complete and cured remove the beam.

@handylandlord

4 жыл бұрын

Justin Herman I excavated because the wall was so badly bowed that I wanted instant results. Also, to seal the wall from the outside and add gravel. In the past, I have installed beams, applied pressure, corrected grade away from the house and seen results typically within a year.

@handylandlord

4 жыл бұрын

Justin Herman kzread.info/dash/bejne/c51_xthrc6rAqso.html

Was there a follow up? Would like to know how it works.

Instead of tearing up your concrete. Why not weld an end plate to the beam with holes in it for anchor bolts and match drill once the beam is under load from the jack? Are you worried the slab would not be thick enough, or the bolts not strong enough?

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

Casey Rohde the concrete along the edge was thin because of a previous sump install that was done, so in my case it wouldn’t have worked. I have seen this type of install before, but have never used it.

Hello I have 4 kids and a new born baby we have bought are first house but it has two bowing walls. Can you please tell me step by step what todo. First would be remove the dirt from around the outside? I have roughly a crack in the middle all the way across but no cracks in a stair motion

Great work and thank for the show and tell. Where did you buy the I beam and how much did you pay for them? Thanks

@handylandlord

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks. More videos to come soon on this basement. I buy them from a place called Alro they only carry steel products. The beams are 4 inch 13lbs a square inch. Cost was $81 dollars each.

Will it still breakthe joyces if the outside wall has the dirt moved away from it first? My mother's house desperately need fixed this summer, and we will be doing it by ourselves. Do you have any other tips to help?

I was quoted 23k for my 63' poured basement wall excavation and push, 13 braces and 2 earth anchors, seal wall, drain tile with 80% gravel backfill. East central Kansas where our soil is sticky clay. Wall is leaning in 3-4". I'm thinking of renting equipment and doing it myself. Comments appreciated.

@handylandlord

4 жыл бұрын

Rick Dean Actually doesn’t sound like a bad price. Having beams installed in Ohio normally cost around $300 to $500 per beam installed. Most of the basements in my area are block walls. I only own one property with poured walls. Equipment or not it’s a lot of manual labor. Would not recommend hand digging haha. Do u know if the wall is leaning in at the top or does it have cracks and bowing?

@handylandlord

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/c51_xthrc6rAqso.html

@RickDean

4 жыл бұрын

@@handylandlord Poured wall is Leaning inward 3-4". Stairwell has a 1/2 height poured wall so that would need 2 earth anchors instead. That's what my quote said. Cracks everywhere.

@handylandlord

4 жыл бұрын

I am not by anyway trying to offend you, instead give you my honest opinion based on the info you gave me. The amount, 63' has me concerned that's a ton of digging, along with cracks everywhere. I would support the wall before digging with any machinery. I'm not sure I would take on this project alone if you decide to give it a go. I do feel you are on the right path with excavating the exterior and sealing the wall. Some companies will claim to be able to fix the problem from the inside and I feel that is false with poor results from my past experiences. Good luck on your decision and I hope this helps.

I'm started to fix my bowing wall but still no confidence. There is water meter on that wall... the wall is so bad and looks like its gonna fall right now (already a year its scares me lol). Is anybody knows if I need building permit for that?

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

Tosik Dwane Permits depend on where you live. But more than likely yes. For the water meter. I normally open the hole around the pipe coming through the block on both sides to give the wall room to move around the pipe without messing up the pipe coming through the block. Just a heads up depending on how bad the wall is you may have to replace it.

@antons.5556

3 жыл бұрын

Handy Landlord: Thanks you very much. I'll try to push it back before replacing. Looks like it will work. At least blocks are in a good condition, just the wall bowed more than in your video

How would you install the top support for beams on a wall like the one behind you at 9:00 with the window, The boards running horizontal not vertical to you overhead?

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

First thing is to check to make sure your beam will fit in between the floor joist and the block wall. I cut blocking to go in between the floor joist at least 3 joist spaces back. Also I add a block between the first floor joist and the beam. Then, I glue and lag bold a 2x8 to the bottom of the floor joist screwing into the joist and the blocking that was just added. Install the screw jack and apply pressure like in the video. Hope this helps.

Where do you get these I beams? I can't find them at my local home material stores.

@handylandlord

Жыл бұрын

Alro steel for me. I would search steel or metal beams on google maps.

what size of rod do you use to push the hydralic jack against?

@andrewrossnagel9433

Жыл бұрын

Probably somewhere between #5 and #7

What is the cost for something like this to be complete?

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

Tyler Lied about $90 to $120 per I beam with all the other required materials. Not including labor.

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

Tyler Lied $385 per beam installed is the going rate in Ohio. Hope this helps.

How much would you charge to do a similar job?

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

Dustin Lamb contractors in my area normally charge around $385 per beam installed. I would be willing to install for around $200 to $250 per beam installed. But not sure of the price of beams since COVID.

Gotta redo the drain tile

@handylandlord

4 жыл бұрын

Planning to replace the interior drain tile. Unfortunately haven't had the motivation to bust up more concrete and dig. Haha

@adam55627

4 жыл бұрын

I hear ya I did mine 4 guys it is a big project

@adam55627

4 жыл бұрын

When you put the steel beams in did you water proof them so they dont rust

@handylandlord

4 жыл бұрын

adam erler they were painted with direct to metal paint prior to install, that’s all I did. Do u have a recommendation so they don’t rust?

@adam55627

4 жыл бұрын

@@handylandlord epoxy anything that you keep the barrier between the steel and water

I'm trying to order I-Beams at metalsdepot, but I have no idea what to choose for: Web, Flange Width, lbs/foot. I know it varies, but generally speaking, for a basement with a mild bow, what kind of I-Beam do you use?

@handylandlord

2 жыл бұрын

Just ordered 22 Ibeams at 94.5" long from Alro steel cost me $160 a beam. I use 4 inch #13lb 4.160 X 4.060 .280. Hope this helps. Working on a basement now. Probably the worst wall I have seen in some time. Thanks for watching. More basement videos coming in a few months.

@Vegan4Everything

2 жыл бұрын

@@handylandlord Thank you so much for the fast and detailed reply! Best of luck with the basement you're doing now!

@Vegan4Everything

2 жыл бұрын

@@handylandlord I went to order those beams, but my total came out way higher, even when bulk buying 22 beams, it came out to $237.51/each... 4" 13# A992/A57250 WF BEAM,4.160 X 4.060 .280 WEB @ 94.5" Where'd I go wrong?!

@handylandlord

2 жыл бұрын

I would look for a local steel yard in your area. The company I use will not deliver to residential address. For me I just have to pick them up but they load them in my van with a crane. Keep in mind they are heavy.

@Vegan4Everything

2 жыл бұрын

@@handylandlord Makes sense. Ok, thanks, man! Yeah, they look heavy!

What size I beam are you using thank you very much I appreciate your feedback

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

gar I use 4 inch I beams. #13. This is what the steel place recommend for basements in my area. Thanks for watching.

@gar783

3 жыл бұрын

@@handylandlord thank you so much I truly appreciate it I just had mine delivered and I'm going to start the process tomorrow also what size rebar do you use thank you for your expertise

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

gar Great!!! The steel I am using is 1/2 solid. You could also use concrete stakes or 3/4 gas line pipe found at Homedepot. I’ve used them all in the past. Good luck on your project.

@gar783

3 жыл бұрын

@@handylandlord totally appreciate you getting back in touch with me as soon as you did just goes to show the kind of character you are totally appreciate it

@gar783

3 жыл бұрын

Also just want to let you know I started it today I did exactly how you did it and at the bottom of each one of my I beams there's a 8 inch difference on the bottom do you have any suggestions

I’ve been looking at videos on how to brace my wall and I’ve come across what’s called a power brace system. They put the beam flush to the wall at the bottom and just use angle iron bolted to the floor to stop the beam from moving back and at the top have a 1 inch thick bolt pushing into the beam going through angle iron fastened into the ceiling truss and slowly tightening over time. Do you think this is also a suitable method or am I better off to push at the bottom and set the beams in concrete ? If you google image search wall power brace you can see what I’m talking about

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

Let me look into it. Sorry for the delay I’ve been working around the clock.

You shouldve excavated the dirt to push back properly.

@handylandlord

2 жыл бұрын

I did. kzread.info/dash/bejne/c51_xthrc6rAqso.html Some parts could not be excavated due to obstructions.

Are you out of NE Ohio?

@handylandlord

4 жыл бұрын

Justin Herman I’m close to that area.

@justinherman9443

4 жыл бұрын

@@handylandlord Very cool. I've subscribed.

You are very young and inexperienced and it shows!

Is it ok to install Beam even the basement have no problem? I mean for prevention.

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

Yes you could install beams. It’s a lot of work to prevent. If it was me I would make sure you are getting the rain water and gutter water away from the foundation. Keep the gutters clean and flowing. Make sure the dirt is sloping away from the house / foundation.

How much do you charge for this work

Where can someone buy those I beams

What size H beam is best to use?

@handylandlord

3 жыл бұрын

4 inch beams. Tell the place you order the beams from what you are using them for. They normally know what you need. I think they are #13. Good luck on your project.

@linuxryodan

3 жыл бұрын

@@handylandlord Thanks !

Where u located ?

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Hey whats up man, I'm a landlord who has this problem and I'm trying to get an idea as to how much this will cost me.. Are you free to take a quick phone call? I can send you my email address

@handylandlord

4 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the delay I didn't get notified that you commented. I recently had 17 beams installed in one of my properties due to it had bowing walls. The cost for materials plus installation was $385 per beam. This also included sealing the basement walls on the interior. I also had drains installed for the gutter downspouts to route the water away from the foundation. Cost for the drain re-route was $1242. Total cost for the job was $8235. Hope this helps. Good luck.

What’s your contact’?

What size rebar are you using and what size holes do you drill in the floor to brace the 2x4 for the jack to sit against?

@handylandlord

Жыл бұрын

I use 24 inch concrete stakes 3/4 diameter with a 2x8 against then the screw jack against the 2x8. The bit is so old I believe it’s one inch or 1 1/4.