Hey guys, Volantes WEAR knob is basically a high-cut filter and you can access 8 presets from the front panel. Just press FAVOURITE and then one of the eight tape head buttons. Cheers!

YES. Pedal shootouts. The reason I started watching you boys in the first place. Glad to see this!

@michaellucas1102

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! I feel like it’s been awhile since they’ve done this.

@alecalfaras5936

2 жыл бұрын

MORE SHOOTOUTS

@kennethc2466

2 жыл бұрын

A darn fine one too. Quite well done. I thought the Boss sounded so good, I went to buy it...until I saw the price.

@isaacandhismusic1153

2 жыл бұрын

Shootouts and non paid reviews. It’s what I love on TPS

@albertplaysguitar

2 жыл бұрын

@@kennethc2466 lol

I would like to take a minute and acknowledge you blokes. During the pandemic you gave me something to look forward to during the worlds craziness. My wife is a nurse and that reality was beyond insane. You guys gave me and I know thousands of others a sense of normalcy. You both make me feel like I’m in the same room hanging with you. I feel a kinship when it comes to that pedal show. Thank you for all that you do. Thank you for also helping me consider all the options for pedals, it makes it much easier on the wallet (most of the time haha) ! Much love! If you both ever make it to Texas, I’m getting you BBQ and tacos!

@ThatPedalShow

2 жыл бұрын

We’re so there Ethan and thank you for the kind words. And of course to the missus for doing something actually really important. Best! X

I was eyeing the 202 for a while and this video sealed the deal for me. It is easily my favourite pedal I’ve ever owned, not only does the delay and reverb just nail it for me, in a way that inspires me to play, but it’s made me strip my board down cause I don’t need anything else besides drive. I never use mod pedals without delay and if I up the wow and flutter, add some verb I can get that warble chorusy spacey thing. The 202, the EQD plumes, the DnM drive and a tuner are now the only pedals on my board and I’m happier with my board than I have ever been! Great review as always guys!

Love when Mick raises his finger while Dan's starting to getting into the 202 and Dan goes: "Yes, Michael." and Mick clarifies the reverbs available on each device. I honestly rarely buy effects (got the basics covered and have for years), but the camaraderie between these two is always a joy.

A cogent and lucid exploration and explanation of a seemingly complex issue. I have avoided the more "involved" delay units in the past but will reevaluate that stance after enjoying your videos. Thank you.

Thanks for this episode guys! TC Nova Delay user here, watching you guys use these things is really helpful and inspiring, thanks for sharing. Keep it LOUD (says me, the professional sound guy)

@chilidogcowboy

2 жыл бұрын

Love my nova delay and I’m just snifffing around to explore what might stack well just ahead of it as a bucket chip thickener....those cheap new tc bucket chip echo (echobrain) maybe the all too easy solution....hmmm...and now memory man is super small...what an era to be making sounds!

I listened to the episode on headphones and the stereo imagining differences were VERY noticeable. I think that is why I like the Valante and why I like using it on when I’m mixing. Great episode, killer tons as always!

@ThatPedalShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Jordan 🙏

With the addition of the extra loop time & mic input, the DL4 Mk2 is the first looper that finally ticks all the boxes for me. Thanks for demoing the MIDI control of the looper on it, by the way. I’ve been wanting to see that in action. Maybe that means I’ll actually explore the delays rather than only using it as a looper. 🙂

The Volante actually has 8 presets accessible from the panel. Holding down the Favorite switch turns the 8 buttons that are used for the play and record heads into preset buttons. But you do indeed need a finger for switching between them. Thanks for the great show, been looking forward to it! Now I need to go off and explore my Volante again.

@ShinyShinyBlack

2 жыл бұрын

Came here to say this!

@stevensrp2music985

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a sick function. I’ve never heard anyone mention that about the Volante.

@ChrisTotster

2 жыл бұрын

They cover this in the video.

@zach_theguitar2472

2 жыл бұрын

They did say that, not very clearly though.

@zach_theguitar2472

2 жыл бұрын

Even with 2 presets at the foot, it’s the best sounding delay.

Perfect timing! Been wanting a comparison, particularly from you guys, on these pedals

One thing to mention about the DL4 MkII: it's buried deep in the manual, but you can get analog dry through now. I don't really get why that's not the default, but it's there.

@grtxyz4358

2 жыл бұрын

The reason is because that cuts off your trails when you turn off a delay... the old DL4 had this analog dry option already.

@AudioWonderland

Жыл бұрын

@@grtxyz4358 You turn your delay off? :)

Things we don't like about the Volante: "it sounds too good"

This is a lovely episode, team - thank you. Listened on the commute home and the spacey sounds really turned the day around. Volante for me, BTW. X

Fantastic playing and great information as always !! For those who are budget challenged, as am I, the TC Electronics Flashback II has TonePrints for the Space Echo and Binson Ecrorec. Clearly, neither has all of the capability, but there are some nice sounds nevertheless.

The Boss hadn't impressed me (above the others) until you guys ran it with max saturation. The rise time on the distortion and the sweeping sound are truly a special combination. That being said, my money will almost certainly be going to the Strymon - I just love the interface so much, and it really feels much more versatile if you have the luxury of a stand alone reverb. My plan is a Volante and a Boss RV-500, which has (at least, a version of) their Space Echo algorithm, though it doesn't look like it has that saturation control.

Yeah more gear shootouts please. Fuzz and overdrive episode is my main dessert. Get the Marshalls and LP out more too. New pedals have been kinda scarce, need to feature more of the new pedals coming out. Hope this input gets view as positive suggestions. Keep rocking.

Great video guys, thanks for taking the time to do it. Been a Volante user for a few years now and absolutely love it. It's a very inspiring pedal and every time I'm noodling around with it I come out with something different. The Boss really caught my eye/ear when launched and hearing them side by side is very interesting. The Boss definitely has a sound and is very cool, but I still think the Volante edges it overall. In saying that I now want the Boss too 🙈😂

@marcusstrymon693

Жыл бұрын

how does it compare to timeline tape mode? Unfortunately i cannot get rid of my timeline Volante is fascinating but i dunno if it is worth blowing the bank for another delay Then again that is what i said about nightsky and when I got it i was blown by how much it added to bigsky and how different it sounds

The Volante is a huge part of my sound with my band, i love it so much ! I'll listen to that video with a lot of attention :)

For me the Volante is still king, it just sounds amazing with everything. I do love delays and have a bunch, so when I get a chance to check out the RE-202 in person, I will probably buy it. Right now I am loving running a 1990s Deluxe Memory Man into the new Chase Bliss Habit and then into the Volante! Talk about crazy cool! :) Great video guys!

@claudioportugal1786

Жыл бұрын

Deluxe EHX Memory Man into CB Habbit into Volante!!! Jesus!!! Holy Shit!!! ❤

@LeviBulger

4 ай бұрын

I am not a huge strymon fan, mostly because of the "strymon sound" that they also mentioned in this video that is in every pedal they put out. It's not a bad tone, but I always know and feel that I'm playing something artificial because of it. That said, I do like the volante and the Capistan quite a bit. The RE202 is the only pedal since the volante that I actually prefer for that particular type of effect. And it's because to me it sounds so incredibly natural. But you can't go wrong with either

I have the Volante and love it for it's simple interface to manipulate which heads are active, which are repeating and the repeat spacing. That is where the inspiration lies for me. Quick and easy adjustments, but not getting bogged down in option paralysis when all I really want is a great sounding tape or drum delay sound.

Amazing as always. I will be buying some merch soon. About to switch to Peavey w/ some spring verb or..fender. Gotta pair it with a delay. Thanks fellas 🎸

I started playing in my first band in 1972 and was one of the first around my neck of the woods to use a tape echo... (I believe it was A Univox... all black and very inspiring). Then, not long after, the RE-201 came out and I got that right away. I fell in love with the sound, but over time, maintaining tapes and heads became very problematic. I got to the point where I was splicing my own tape because Roland no longer made the tape packs. I fell in love with that sound and am still in love with it today. I would say that I've moved on to liking a lot of delays, but I think... IF you're really into delays, then a tape OR a good emulation should be added to your board. Loved the episode.... TPS has helped me "hear" the subtleties that I was missing. Thanks for that!!!

@doginconfusion

Жыл бұрын

Hey mate. I am that close buying a real re201 not cheap at all. I am also afraid it will be a pain in the ass with the maintenance. Given that you look like you have a lot of experience with the real thing.. what digital tape echo would you recommend as an alternative? I heard good things about belle epoch..

On the topic of the Strymon sound, I got myself a Volante just the other day and I immediately noticed that "sheen" as Dan put it. It's has a bit of a hi-fi kind of sound that I can imagine doesn't work with certain genres depending on how much level you have dialed in, but I've played it with blues, rock, and even metal and gotten pretty awesome sounds out of it so far. But absolutely it has that shimmery, hi-fi kind of sound.

I'm in the market for a new delay pedal. I've got to say, I'm probably going to purchase the DL4 mkII, partly because of the added reverbs and looper, making it useful to me as a 1pedal add-on to my synthesizers, but, tape me to a drum and tell me I have 4 heads, but I have to say, the Volante sounds good!

I will forever love the way the DL4 sits with my guitar tone. I’m halfway thru the video and my mind was blown learning that the Euclidean is the new Binson! I’ve been yearning for one in my Helix and it’s been there for months. 😂

Looooong time watcher, first time commenter. Thankyou for doing pedal shootouts again. Those were my favorite episodes. I’d love to see more of them again (even if it’s a pick n mix). Thanks for all the amazing content :)

@kentonschroer2347

2 жыл бұрын

Man I miss Pick n Mix, or pedal jams, or any of that stuff that really focuses on a couple pedals just for fun.

As much as I would love having a play about with the Line 6 and especially the Boss RE-202 nothing is going to make me swap my Volante for them. As you say it is spectacularly impressive.

I use the Deep Blue Delay in combination with the left side of the Keeley Dark Side. It is a superb combination.

No better feeling in the world than sitting down for Friday lunch and seeing an hour-long video waiting for you. Cheers!

Thank you for mentioning JayLeonardJ - you're right Dan, his jam in the end is INSANE!!!

I really like this format as I think it's important to discuss also the things that a particular pedal does not do well. No pedal is perfect.

Great Video guys. I own a Volante, and it is great. I am missing the panning on the 202.

Lol I just skipped a meeting at my office just to see this video! Never been a big fan of strymon products, but I truly changed my mind when I purchased the Volante! As always you guys Rock.

On Volante, setting the spacing to Golden Ratio causes the repeats to be well dispersed. Obviously, if each head only produces a single repeat, they won't overlap, but when set to even, subsequent repeats from the first head will coincide with the second, third and forth heads. By using the golden ratio, the repeats don't overlap (so much), and each finds better its own space.

@MusicFillsTheQuiet

2 жыл бұрын

Aaaah, yes because it's an irrational ratio! Fascinating! (Is that an oxymoron? "Irrational ratio"?)

@RipIPDime

2 жыл бұрын

​@@MusicFillsTheQuiet It is, more or less, an oxymoron, as irrational numbers are defined as those which can't be represented as a quotient of two integers. It technically can be presented as a ratio, but only by including other irrational terms.

@CitizenOfEverywhere

2 жыл бұрын

@@RipIPDime it’s not an oxymoron, and plenty examples of irrational ratios exist, e.g. Pi, being the ratio of a circles diameter to its circumference, is irrational.

@RipIPDime

2 жыл бұрын

​@@CitizenOfEverywhere Sure, hence the deliberate inclusion of the phrase "more or less". In a strictly definitional sense, anything can be a ratio as long as something can be expressed in term of that thing. My point was that irrational numbers can never escape their irrationality, and that the nature of irrational numbers runs somewhat contrary to our common use cases for ratios (fractions of measurement, time relationships, etc). Pi may be the ratio of diameter to circumference, but taking the ratio of a human's measurements can never yield pi because it's not possible to measure with infinite precision.

Thanks guys!

My feeling last week was that the ability to switch on and off heads on the Volante would be the deciding factor. I guess I was a bit off, but I guess I feel marginally vindicated sticking with it for now! The 202 does seem amazing, but I'll love the one I'm with :)

Familiar with all three but the one that feels the most fun to play and stays on the board each time I reconfigure is the Volante. It’s just more inspiring to play and I find less twiddling and more playing with the Volante. I’ve moved away from “endless” options and find that limitations are the gateway to creativity.

@gazb2069

Жыл бұрын

The Volante looks complicated but its so easy to use

@UMCmetal

Жыл бұрын

same for me! real pedals, knobs and more playing. Digital is great, but is a bottomless taphole for sound experiments and the last 10% :D

great video. Are there any volume fluctuations when you switch between the types on the DL4? I had extreme changes on the UA delay that I didn't like. I wish the SOS on the Volante was more like the Echoplex SOS, it's very compressed in comparison . I agree about the strymon sheen, though the magneto eurorack module doesn't have it, it's quite dark in a good way. I had a volente briefly but went back to using the magneto, with guitar fed in/out through their AA1 module and footswitch control via DPW switch module. Long-winded way to do it but the sound of the Magneto is worth it. I have a 201 as well and the magneto complements it really well, running them panned hard left/right is lots of fun. Not a live friendly approach but good for recording.

SUPER CLEARLY! THE REVIEW IS ON POINT!!

When mick says let’s pull the strat out and the ‘61 appears can’t help but smile and be genuinely happy for ya! Sounds amazing! And if you read this yes I am related to Steve Albini although we’ve never met, same family tree.

@ThatPedalShow

2 жыл бұрын

Haha! Cheers Jamal…

If I needed all the sounds, I’d get the DL-4 mkii, but I don’t. The 202 sounds incredible, and looks cool. That phasiness between the heads has always bothered me, though. The Volante blew my doors off when it came out, and has not, of yet, ceased to impress. That is (still) my winner. Really can’t go wrong with any of them. We are certainly spoiled for choice. Thank you for the brilliant questions asked!

Hey. Im a bit confused with the dl4 looper functions. Can you jump back and forth between effects and looper? Meaning lets say that i want to record a loop with sound at 107 preset (whatever that sound is) -> half the speed -> record on the same loop something with the 95 preset. I think you get the picture. You can do this with the timeline. Also does it has an undo function?

Great show!

The Dual Delay mode on the DL4 is parallel (panned hard left and right). You can also achieve the same in the Crisscross mode with Tweez set to 0.

@JB_Eckl

2 жыл бұрын

I came here to say this!

Love that you can change the ratio, really puts you in a different head spacing…

@ThatPedalShow

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahah!

Your guys opinion always respected, I have no need for a reverb function on a delay pedal. So the multiple reverb option doesn't sway me in any way. Because of this, I'll continue to stick with my volante

Someone help me out here, I'm assuming that midi will not recall different reverbs on the re202 since it requires restarting? That would would mean any reverb setting you have saved would apply to whichever reverb is physically engaged. So you would have to be ok with only ever using one reverb or changing it would affect all presets.

Great stuff so far gents! Great to make a show thanks to rain! Cheers

I've got my Volante as soon as it hit shelfs in The Netherlands. I am loving it. Still amazing thing. Every time I see Micks Gold top I have to take my and have a go on it :) They sound so similar and look close to. Mine is Murphy Lab but it was modified. It was best sounding LP in the shop year ago when I got it and they have had tons of epic LP's and modifying it made it even better. Off to play it now :)

Good show! I'd pick the RE-2 due to real-estate issues on the board. I will add it next to my Starlight (DMM mode). Cheers!

Amazing episode . This is exactly the comparison I was looking for .. I already own the Volante , Im getting the DL4 MK2 for my anniversary ( only because the RE 202 isn't available yet ) . The RE 202 Sounds unbelievable . Would love to see a deep dive on the DL4..

@bigleafwoodcraft1453

2 жыл бұрын

The re-202 is available!

Great video gents as always. I have a question though. In his early videos Justin Sandercoe used a rack fx system that included a gorgeous delay that was mid range focused ie it cut nearly all of the high frequencies. Can any of these pedal dothat?

I'm about 1:30 in, and the only thing I know for sure is that I need a D&M Drive (and whatever amp and speaker it's going in to). That's the best I've ever heard that pedal sound. Really outstanding.

I love them all and can work with any. The volante is my go to always, very intuitive and easy to reset at a gig. I have many delay pedals the volante has replaced the timeline, its a elcapistan on steroid. ( Love your Chanel.)

They all sound great - I have a DD500 and a H9 max so not sure I'm seeking out a different delay ... if I were the 202 really does have some quality to it that I find appealing.

Brilliant show…. Really really honest and personal insights about each of them too!!! Love the Volante…. 🙄

I see you mentioned the thing we talked on the last video about the re202 preamp, nobody seems to remember it's a big part of the Space Echo sound :)

This video explains the TPS lack of love for some digital stuff with dual mono rigs. At last I get it! The DL4 mk1 was such a useful songwriting tool that I have just bought the mk2 for the work flow. The mic input allows it to be used with acoustic instruments (handmade mandolin, mandola, harp, tongue drum etc.) as well as vocals and blues harp which is a game changer. Different mics can give everything from crystal clear to saturated mic pre. tones, inspiring when working through a songs potential. Love the original space echo but the 202 is still just an extremely good one trick pony. Strymon is (just) out of my current birthday prezzy budget so I have been spared the consideration! Thankyou for this. Excellent as always.

@ThatPedalShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark! Love the idea of the mic input on the DL4… I can only imagine being creative enough to actually use it! Ha! Mick here. :0)

@mark.guitar

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThatPedalShow Don't do yourself down Mick. Your playing ability has inspired me to go back and learn things better. Meanwhile your abilities as a "magazine" contributer / editor over the years require a type of creativity that is completely alien to me!

Paused to watch Jay Leonard Jay's Ghost Busters loop. That was worth it! Nice one Jay! Good looking out Dan!

Loved this! I could (and have) listen to you two play all day long.

Sitting over here with my Belle Epoch Deluxe looking at that 202 like it's a shiny new toy, but would I feel the same way with the 202 when the next big tape emulation pedal is released?

The right hand button on the RE-202 should be labeled "make Dan laugh"! Great fun, thanks guys!!

Fascinating. After hearing these 3...I still prefer the RE-20! Looks like I'll be buying one of those.

Man I like the idea of recreating classic machines. I've tried a Roland 501, so i am biased on getting the boss. But the strymon echorec is note worthy too. For now i am sticking to my wampler tape echo and catalinbread echorec.

The ability of the Volante to alter the spacing of the heads is what wins it for me. It's absurd how much you can change the effect with that one knob.

@davidsaliba9209

2 жыл бұрын

And...the mechanics and wear knobs modify that effect in endless ways...

@marcusstrymon693

Жыл бұрын

Would you say that a volante adds some extra to my timeline? Cannot sell the TL

@DavidDyte1969

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusstrymon693 Definitely much more capable than the multi-head delay on the TL, but unless messing with washy soundscapes is your thing (it's my thing), it's not exactly necessary.

@marcusstrymon693

Жыл бұрын

@@DavidDyte1969 I am a fanatic to ambient guitar - love fripertronics, chords of orion and pery frank. The endless river was one of my favorite pink floyd albums bc of the ambience. A strymon nightsky was a breath of fresh air to me and it saved me from getting bored. And I like pitch altering sounds e.g. vibrato modulation and especially broken tapes... That is why the volante fascinates me... TL dual is beat and it sounds awesome bit I never use it bc setting a tempo subdivision in the menue is too demanding for me.... Like a multihead delay needs to be at hand immediately, I demand max tweakability from that.. The thing is just.... I have a timeline and I will get a meris hedra pitch shifter delay soon... Another delay might be overkill... But the volante is just fascinating Maybe on sound - does the volante sound different to TL tape machine? I alway feel loke the TL could go obe step further - It doesn’t saturate like real tape and it always reminds me a bit of a digital delay with tape modulation... With the Nightsky I thought it might not add too much in terms of reverb sound but the mod is just supercool... Turns out that the base verbs of noghtsly sound totally different - more realistic but less lush. Wonder if it is the same for volante and Tl thx

@DavidDyte1969

Жыл бұрын

@@marcusstrymon693 Oh for sure, you have so much more variation available in the Volante. Wow and flutter, saturation, ratio knob for the playback heads (that gives you all kinds of rhythmic patterns so easily), and choice of which heads feed back. If ambient is your special thing, then save your pennies for a Volante. You won't be disappointed.

Does anyone know if on the 202 you can set and save different reverbs in the presents - or do you have to manually power down to change the reverb each time you want a change?

What is you out an EQ pedal in the FX loop of a Delay pedal? Also, would putting another delay pedal in the effects loop be able to create a tape echo sound!? I wish I had more pedals to test this!

While we can half, double, and reverse in the sound on sound looper, I still wish the Volante had a reverse delay mode. Reverse delay is one of the coolest things tape ever gave us and it gives a very musical, almost string-like sound. I can’t believe Strymon didn’t include that with the El Cap or the Volante: it’s a legacy effect that pedals do so much better than a tape unit ever could.

@peternorth6782

Жыл бұрын

the line 6 echo park has the best reverse delay ever.

@btwgg

10 ай бұрын

The Volante can do reverse delay, even without loop. Just enter sos mode and tab the left button.

Great episode. These type of episodes are the reason headphone listening is a must. Just sounds so good! Mick, pupdate for you. Riggs, our german shepherd puppy, has gone from 11 lbs at 8 weeks to 30 lbs at 12 weeks. He is basically a furry shark with legs. Super fun, but a destroyer of all things flesh. Needless to say, he is a challenge. Cheers.

@ThatPedalShow

2 жыл бұрын

Ha! Good luck with it Nick. Rosie is finally calming down. A little bit.

I bought the Space Echo after last weeks episode (probably would have anyway) and couldn’t be happier. Cheers!

@paulcowart3174

2 жыл бұрын

Thinking about the small box

Didn’t actually realise just how big the DL4 mk2 was but in saying that if you only have the dollars and space for one big box delay that makes the most sense. Sounds good and is the most versatile. Would love a deep dive on it

@dahliafiend

2 жыл бұрын

If you have it personally and like it that’s fine. I returned mine and wouldn’t recommend it to anyone.

@isaacandhismusic1153

2 жыл бұрын

@@dahliafiend why’s that?

YESSS, oh god haven't even started watching and already know it's gonna be great

Guys I bloody love your channel Taught me so much about tone and given me confidence to build a nice small board that I gig and love I decided to pull the trigger on the volante One question Is there a way so that the Rec level can be applied to your dry signal and not just repeats in a similar way that tape saturation can on the 202?

I just ended up wanting all three!

I have the Volente and the DL4 mk1, but I also have a tc alter ego x4. Thought about updating my DL4, I mainly use it for reverse delay, and the mkII has all that I like the one button looper! Oh Volente I was able to get 4 but you have to get the extra multi extension thing they got for it! Either way glad you guys did this haven't been sure which one between updating my DL4 or going with the Boss.

What I would love to see is the pedals applied in a mono situation. I have recently decided to go from two amps to one. Maybe some delays... or reverbs or any other effect pedals are not really effective in a mono situation but then are ones that can do both without losing a wide sound field or quality of sound etc. Is the effect a only stereo animal or can it do both. For example a ping pong delay would only work effectively in a stereo situation. Thoughts..

Hello, I'm rather late to the party here. Great video! I wonder if a follow up combining the boss BP-1W & the 202 would be interesting? Analog preamp with digital 202? Cheers.

Anyone know how to do something similar to the 202's Warp function on the DL4 MKII?

Interestingly the ‘more affordable’ brand NUX also released an RE 201 style alongside a Boss style smaller RE201 pedal. Josh has them on the show this Wednesday and he really liked them. Although is there anything that Josh doesn’t like? For the record that particular show was hilarious.

@teknomanning

2 жыл бұрын

Bro I’m stealing the poetry rock.

@markandclairethomas2062

2 жыл бұрын

NUX also do a tape core pedal that simulates 3 heads and has Reverb , plus analog dry through . All for around £50 . It’s been out for a few years but never appears to get mentioned , probably because of its price . NUX do make really decent gear though .

@andsoistopped

2 жыл бұрын

@@markandclairethomas2062 Yes, I think that’s the one I was referring to that Josh had on the show on Wednesday

@MrBallynally2

2 жыл бұрын

i am happy with my Nux. Sold my RE20 and went with Nux after various 202 videos including tps. Only drawback: the Nux 'time' does not go slow enough..

Hey DAN Hey MICK .. T here 😎 Would have liked to have seen the Dawner Prince BOONAR on the board .. still looking forward to the show.. 😎🎸🇮🇪

They all sound great. The saturation on the RE-202 seems a bit…like early digital distortion….and I’m a Boss fan boy!

You guys should do a 4 hour video just soloing. So good!

I swore off Line 6 a few years ago, it is just too much. The Strymon seems more intuitive to me and I love the 4 heads thing. Fun episode guys, thanks.

There was some upper end distortion on that volente at the end of the vid that's a bit yucky through headphones. I got my DL4 and pretty much does the job. Subdivision issues are a disappointment. That 202 though... Possible buyers remorse. Thanks for the great vid!

Not a tape delay but one of my favorite things about the memory boy is its effects loop. I have a behringer 6 band eq in there permanently to eq the repeats. Depending on the occasion dropping or boosting the mids will get me the right balance. Seeing the discussion on re202 eq...

whats the better looper? Line 6 DL4 or Volante.... I am a novice with loopers but really want wonderful ambient sounds without a lot of complication.....to play chord progression loops with.

I have the original re 201 and i A/B with my Line 6 HX FX cosmos echo I was surprise with the quality of the Line 6 Very good

Damn I straight up sold Volante for Habit. I surprisingly do not regret doing that but I do miss having it on my board such a gorgeous delay.

You two put on an awesome show. Loved this.

It all started for me with a Danelectro PB&J, love delays since and want them all haha

Thank you guys, this video is very illuminating. In theory, I want to like the Volante, but I just can't get over the Strymon "sheen." I came here for more info in the DL4, but I have to say, I think I'd choose the re202. I really like the saturation control and the independent tones of the repeats all at the twist to f the knob. When you had the DL4 on the Ehcorec Euro whatever setting, that sounded fantastic, and I think better than the Volante (to my ears)... but having to have a cheat sheet is a big turn-off. And like Mick, I don't need all of those delays... I guess in theory it's better to have them and not need them than to need them and not have them. But I was really sold on the Re202 when Mick was "selling" it on the strat towards the end. And I thought I wanted just a simple delay like the new $99 JHS or the Echoplex pedal, but I would like something where I can access a couple presets just by tapping. Incidentally, I'd be running (sometimes) stereo in a similar setup. Vox AC30 60th ann and a Tweed Deluxe clone. The added reverbs to these pedals are a big welcome as none of my amps have reverb.

Guys any idea what resolution is the digital at? So what sample rate are they running, what's the DSP resolution (24, 32 or 64) and what depth does the AD/DA? Analog dry through? I know most of us don't want to know this they just want this or that sound. But maybe we can understand the sound from a little more info. Like the Meris stuff is 24bit AD/DA with 32bit floating point DSP, but the Chase Bliss is 32bit AD/DA... now ok is 32bit AD/DA better than 24... well not really. Like the signal to noise for 24bit is 144dB range. None of the 24bit or 32bit even get close to 144dB. Plus as we all know it's not bits for bits, it's the way it's done and the parts selection and of course price comes into fact of the overall sound. Great show guys.... how about an analog reverb show. Thanks! Gordon

Hoping they have some 202 at the guitar show this weekend

I wsih Dan would play more of that overdriven rhythmic droning :) Stacking tape delays is so much fun. Excellent video guys!

Bit busy today, so I'll be DELAYED in watching. But when I do, I will watch it OVER and OVEr and OVer and Over and over.

Relatively new volante user. Just figured out how you can change the individual levels of each tape heads by just holding in the head button (the green button) til it turns yellow. That was a big game changer/aha! moment for me.

Just and FYI, Like the Space Echo pedal the Volante has dedicated Treble (Wear) and Bass (Low Cut) tone controls that effect only the repeats only. Also the delay models go from very clean "Studio" mode to very dirty in the "Drum" mode with the tape mode fitting nicely in-between the two.

Although similar they all acually have there own niche, the stymon is defo the most Hifi and if you want a choice of tape emulations it’s the one, the 202 is an out and out 201 digital emulation and if you want say to be lee scratch Perry or classic dub or gong this is the best choice, if you want versatile, got to be the dl4 mk2 it’s covers delay looping and reverb for £100 less than the other 2 do no brainier if you have multiple needs for sounds. Good show guys!?

@samuelxavier2473

2 жыл бұрын

Automatic upvote for mentioning Lee Perry.

Hmm, regarding the bright sound of the Volante on Neville's board...I noticed that he rides the treble pickup on his Strat a lot which might explain the impression of brightness it has left with Mick...!? Great show as always and a really intersting topic on today's show, by the way!! May I suggest a similar test of the truly analog splendor of the ARDX20 against the new Delay Llama Extreme, and perhaps the Strymon Brigadier representing an emulation of the analog sound...

@ThatPedalShow

2 жыл бұрын

Nice! Let’s do that. :0) It was a definite buffering thing with Nev - you could clearly hear it on and off. As Dan says, might have something to do with the always on pedals…….. Cheers!