Boomer Metal Vs Zoomer Metal

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So which is best, old school metal or something more modern?
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  • @agufish
    @agufish2 жыл бұрын

    "Pete Metal" is the best one 😘

  • @nathanmclauchlan5148

    @nathanmclauchlan5148

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gotta love “Pete Metal “ 😉

  • @chaoschaoforever

    @chaoschaoforever

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Pete Metal" is indeed the best.

  • @Dezeta79

    @Dezeta79

    2 жыл бұрын

    so, in my country will be "Bl0wj*b Metal" :-/

  • @aukiriusdevil8465

    @aukiriusdevil8465

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Dezeta79 Are you from Argentina?

  • @Dezeta79

    @Dezeta79

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aukiriusdevil8465 yes i am my guy

  • @DrBlort
    @DrBlort2 жыл бұрын

    My personal preference is old school. Having said that, It's only natural that newer metal bands look for and explore different sounds, rythms, chord progressions, and all sort of things. That's ok, that's how art evolves.

  • @DrBlort

    @DrBlort

    2 жыл бұрын

    @BiRDiEMusic ​ Thanks! I'm listening to your music (Sol) and it's great! I really like it, new school and all 😄🤘

  • @MadManMusic

    @MadManMusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think the issue is that most Modern Metal Band Sound Identical. I'm also a 7-Stringer and I use all kinds of Tunings and I often find myself in these Stale Ruts where riffs start to repeat themselves. However the bigger problem is that it seems like with most bands these days there isn't even an attempt at Originality. But this isn't a new concept, it has been like this for years. And its also incredibly difficult to carve out a completely original sound nowadays. Not without fusing it with something extreme. Next Up: Country Djent lol 🤘🏼😜

  • @DrBlort

    @DrBlort

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@MadManMusic Yeah, I agree. In the 80s to mid 90s you could recognize a band just by hearing a few seconds of a song, either by the style, sound, or something unconscious. Most of them were/are very distinctive. We could even recognize different albums from the same band that way. Maybe the thing with more modern bands is that the artistic vision goes on other things than just riffs and sound, like maybe lyrics? I don't know enough to find the causes of the monotony in that landscape. Oh, This made me remember that there is a video called "The Death of Melody?" from Inside the Score, that speaks of similar things IIRC. Will have to check it again. Also, we're more familiar with the really good past music, forgot the bad ones, and we still have to wade through the new stuff. Maybe in 10 years we can appreciate the good ones from 2020 and 2021. I also think that we could sit down and listen to a record more times, and familiarity with something makes us appreciate it more. Nowadays with thousands of songs ready to play with a click it's harder to get hooked. I also expect that after Country Djent, what's next is Metal DJazz Techo Pop haha

  • @MadManMusic

    @MadManMusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DrBlort Haha! Its gonna get wild!! 🤘🏼😜

  • @DreadNovella

    @DreadNovella

    2 жыл бұрын

    Boomer is not the eighties. Boomer means the boomer generation which is the fifties. Stop saying shit that doesn't make sense.

  • @mgrocki
    @mgrocki2 жыл бұрын

    "this is the internet where everything is a massive fight" lol... so true

  • @beastlybeast2716

    @beastlybeast2716

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s gotten pretty ridiculous. What’s wrong with “hey, I kinda dig all of this stuff! Some more than others but I appreciate all of it!” We are all here because we love metal right?

  • @ricekrispietreats8973

    @ricekrispietreats8973

    2 жыл бұрын

    No this is completely wrong and he shouldn't of made that joke. It's offensive to me that people would think that the internet fights about anything. We should cancel this guy and you for agreeing with him! (Sarcasm don't take this seriously)

  • @henriquemontalvao8492
    @henriquemontalvao84922 жыл бұрын

    Pete why don't you pick a modern band and play it as if it was an 80's band then?

  • @peteplaysmusic

    @peteplaysmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cool idea! Any band suggestions you’d like to see? :)

  • @henriquemontalvao8492

    @henriquemontalvao8492

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@peteplaysmusic well, since you said you like both peryphery and metallica and already did metallica... But I'd love to see what you'd come up for polyphia as a challenge

  • @kesti2499

    @kesti2499

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@henriquemontalvao8492 lol 80’s Style periphery could actually be really groovy

  • @Cleesp

    @Cleesp

    2 жыл бұрын

    Born of Osiris, but it's thrash, lets gooo.

  • @adriellightvale8140

    @adriellightvale8140

    2 жыл бұрын

    Animals As Leaders but it's hard rock.

  • @jeffreymartinez5829
    @jeffreymartinez58292 жыл бұрын

    To claim that the 80s (or any decade of music) is superior or inferior to others is pointless. Music changes. It evolves, it incorporates elements of the past, and it creates new sounds. Having preferences is fine, but to claim generational superiority is a fool's argument. Pete, you play awesome music, man, and I love it. Keep doing what you're doing!

  • @BigMacAttack83

    @BigMacAttack83

    2 жыл бұрын

    Love this. It's so true!

  • @DreadNovella

    @DreadNovella

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just hate how ignorant this guy is calling the eighties boomer. Boomer is the fifties.

  • @charizardmaster13

    @charizardmaster13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sadly theres too many idiots on the internet who make bold claims like that without anything to back it up with

  • @smylex99

    @smylex99

    2 жыл бұрын

    At the same time, it can still be said that someone’s band sucks regardless of the era it came from. Believe me, as someone who’s been listening to Metal in almost all of its forms for almost 45 years, there’s a lot more Metal I hate than what I like.

  • @dreadswizzard9142

    @dreadswizzard9142

    2 жыл бұрын

    There was actually a study on pop music that proved that there was a point in about the 60s where it hit an overall peak and has been going downhill since. I believe Tom Scott did a videos on it as well.

  • @junior10kdutch
    @junior10kdutch2 жыл бұрын

    I dig both. They're different, but tasty nonetheless. People get so precious about their musical tastes. Don't like it? Don't listen to it. Keep doing what you do, Pete!

  • @EmileA-gs1kk

    @EmileA-gs1kk

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed, I totally mess with Periphery and Meshuggah just as much as i loove the AJFA and MoP metallica albums I was writing this way in the beginning of the video and i didnt even realize that he used metallica and periphery as an example

  • @tim-tim-timmy6571
    @tim-tim-timmy65712 жыл бұрын

    "every 7 string guitar riffs sound the same" *takes out the 8 string*

  • @Alex82pd
    @Alex82pd2 жыл бұрын

    The "boomer" style always sound to me more energetic, something I associate with speed, with energy. The "zoomer" style goes more into the angry zone to me. To some extents, it is like "walk" from Pantera elevated at the power of 2, angry feeling. While normal riffs from the 80s/90s give me energy. Both nice, but for different feelings, my 2 cents there 😉

  • @ClikcerProductions

    @ClikcerProductions

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a similar perspective, although I'd probably describe it as boomer = power, zoomer = rage. I'd describe it like that as I find both very energetic, just in very different ways

  • @Alex82pd

    @Alex82pd

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ClikcerProductions maybe, yes.. I kind of see that too

  • @8393Robertrex

    @8393Robertrex

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ones cocaine the others weed

  • @singleproppilot

    @singleproppilot

    2 жыл бұрын

    The old thrash and speed metal musicians were nothing short of athletes. It takes not only skill, but tremendous stamina to play that music. Take a song like “Master of Puppets”, which is a relentless assault of downpicking fury that lasts over eight minutes, including a short melodic break in the middle. Nothing in modern metal comes close as far as pure energy level. Modern metal is generally slower and more focused on groove. Another key difference is the role of melody and harmony. Old metal they played a million miles an hour while SINGING, on time and on key. In modern styles they don’t really sing, the fry vocals they use lack a defined pitch, so no need to write a vocal melody over that guitar riff. Just bark out whatever you want to say. No one can understand you anyway unless they read the lyrics sheet. A few modern metal bands play dual guitars in harmony, but harmony isn’t really cool anymore. What’s in style is dissonance, not to create cycles of tension and release, but just dissonance for the sake of dissonance, all the time. Some of it is so extreme that you can’t even tell what key they’re playing in (Animals as Leaders, I’m looking at you). I don’t see the genius in it. It just sounds like out of tune noodling to me. In favor of creating ever more extreme stuff, what has been lost is taste, in my opinion.

  • @ClikcerProductions

    @ClikcerProductions

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@singleproppilot Damn dude, all of that just to say you don't understand Animals as Leaders?

  • @seangriffey8669
    @seangriffey86692 жыл бұрын

    As someone born in 97, older music has never really spoken to me like more modern stuff. The oldest stuff I listen to regularly is probably meshuggahs destroy erase improve. That said i have a tremendous amount of respect for what came before. I grew up on downtuned riffs and at least some screams in my music and surprise surprise, thats what I still like most. Just like how someone born 20 years before me might prefer standard e and mostly singing in their metal. Everyone needs to relax a bit I think.

  • @BlairLSK

    @BlairLSK

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a 48 year old dude I know what you're saying. Our tastes get established early on in life and have to be almost 'proven wrong' before we take to anything more progressive within that genre, let alone another genre all together. I respect and enjoy a lot of the more modern metal I hear but it isn't the music I attach emotional significance to. That honour belongs to the albums I listened to in the late 80s/early 90s.

  • @ayanleman

    @ayanleman

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've always felt that, music is weird in that, in a lot of other mediums we might acknowledge and respect the subjective nature of our tastes, but when it comes to music all of a sudden everything has to be hard-fact my-way-or-the-highway objectivity. Hell music has different rules in all sorts of ways, you'll have people watching some twisted and gutwrenching horror movies but go "I don't go for that satanic stuff" the second they hear distortion on a guitar. I wonder what it is about music that just clicks on a different part of our brains

  • @xxdr34m5xx_4

    @xxdr34m5xx_4

    2 жыл бұрын

    Funny, I'm born I 97 as well and I feel exactly the same

  • @WatsonDynamite

    @WatsonDynamite

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was born in 98 and I MUCH prefer the older stuff. Music is a language and some types speak more to some people than others. It's perfectly natural.

  • @ThatBeTheQuestion

    @ThatBeTheQuestion

    2 жыл бұрын

    As someone born in 96, I have I agree.

  • @Traski
    @Traski2 жыл бұрын

    Not an easy task to get me to headbang. That second zoomer riff was a banger. I grew up listening to lot of music from late 80's to early 00's, then kinda skipped the following 10 years. But then, mid to late 2010's and now this decade has been a treat. Good songwriting matters. Heaviness is subjective.

  • @TheBanana93

    @TheBanana93

    2 жыл бұрын

    late 2010s was pretty bad haha Metalcore took over.

  • @obi-wannabekennotbi2418
    @obi-wannabekennotbi24182 жыл бұрын

    3:57 this riff is fire! 🔥

  • @mouin3mou243

    @mouin3mou243

    2 жыл бұрын

    Is it an original one or a famous riff ?

  • @jacobrae18
    @jacobrae182 жыл бұрын

    I like both of these so much. What I don't understand is why some people say the modern riffs aren't memorable. They're so groovy and catchy.

  • @MRSludgedude

    @MRSludgedude

    Жыл бұрын

    Not in the mainstream.

  • @jacobrae18

    @jacobrae18

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MRSludgedude I mean if you're talking about what bring me has turned into or something like that, then I understand. But if you mean bands like erra, currents, or oceans ate alaska, then I don't really see what you mean.

  • @MRSludgedude

    @MRSludgedude

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jacobrae18 I love alot of modern music but not the compressed stuff that ripped off the great meshugga. I hate bands like periphery and all that deathcore and djent and most nu metal. But there are thousands of amazing doom and death metal bands and black metal. Metal is on fire right now but from 2005 to like 2019 was horrible. They basically mixed blink 182 with meshugga . I think rock is dead now fully but metal ....it may be the best time in history for extreme metal. I just like natural organic looser blues based metal like down and acid bath, pantera, Melvins, mastadon. I do think ppl had way better vocals in the 90s though in every genre. 2000s everybody got that emo softy wimpy voice. Thank cawd that's almost dead . I think music is changing for the better again with gen Z bands .They seem to be more on the raw grit side then there gen Y counterparts. That's just my opinion I can't speak for anybody else.

  • @skrumbobumbo3279

    @skrumbobumbo3279

    Жыл бұрын

    Because they don't want to put in any brain work to understand what they're listening to. Old stuff is "better" because old people don't have to actually think about it. We young people are the same way about modern metal; we don't have to work hard at learning how to listen to it right now, but someday when our stuff is "old school" we'll have to work at it too.

  • @AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic
    @AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic2 жыл бұрын

    Depends on the kind of riffs for me. I will always adore thrash riffs, dislike most traditional heavy metal riffs, and whatever that 3rd boomer riff you played would be called is awesome. However, I love the 1st and 2nd type djent riffs, slam riffs, and lower tunings. That's why I love bands like Trivium, Revocation, Amon Amarth, etc, that find a great way to blend old school and modern!

  • @dysonmodica9302

    @dysonmodica9302

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed! That’s why I love trivium as well!

  • @AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic

    @AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dysonmodica9302 They'll always be one of my favorites, too!

  • @craigjames1082

    @craigjames1082

    2 жыл бұрын

    Revocation is a top fucking tier band

  • @AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic

    @AgainstTheeWickedlyMusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@craigjames1082 absolutely. Dave Davidson is one of the best guitarists right now, and the band just gets better and better. The Outer Ones is still mindblowing to me, to this day.

  • @setra23

    @setra23

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you don't know them already, check out Sylosis. I reckon they play the sort of music you'd be into.

  • @KradunkulousE
    @KradunkulousE2 жыл бұрын

    I love how the 150bpm round was straight up Mick Gordon vs Hair Metal. Great video as always Pete.

  • @rxmshxh4639
    @rxmshxh46392 жыл бұрын

    I like new bands who take inspiration from the old bands' and give it their own modern touch :)

  • @peteplaysmusic

    @peteplaysmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too, I love Sylosis for example :)

  • @rxmshxh4639

    @rxmshxh4639

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@peteplaysmusic Yess they show how to smack in e standard!!

  • @xXHardcoreSeppXx

    @xXHardcoreSeppXx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rxmshxh4639 newest album is d standard tho

  • @rxmshxh4639

    @rxmshxh4639

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@xXHardcoreSeppXx Yaa but they've smacked in e standard not too long ago

  • @Powermad-bu4em

    @Powermad-bu4em

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@peteplaysmusic Sylosis is one of the best bands to come around in the last 30 years. Such good stuff. Check out Alustrium. They are friggin amazing and definitely pull from the old school.

  • @peteplaysmusic
    @peteplaysmusic2 жыл бұрын

    So which is best, old school metal or something more modern? Thanks for watching! :)

  • @dan8402

    @dan8402

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well Pete, an am almost 50. Old and fat but can head bang with the best of them. I don't know if there is a real answer to this. I love neo classical shredding, and thick DGent riffs but for different reasons. I like country music to so don't hate me. 😂😎

  • @mihaelzubak7321

    @mihaelzubak7321

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ended up being Boomer - Zoomer - Boomer for me

  • @jkobain

    @jkobain

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for playing. (%

  • @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS

    @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS

    2 жыл бұрын

    A rich blend! I been hearing some nice things from Shrub Plays doing Between the Buried, Trivium, etc that is like 5 genres I can recognize throughout the songs sometimes!

  • @consequenceable

    @consequenceable

    2 жыл бұрын

    z00m b00m z00m

  • @MadManMusic
    @MadManMusic2 жыл бұрын

    I'm also somewhere in the middle. I play professionally in a 90's Hardcore Metal Band called Pro-Pain but I also enjoy more Modern Sounds as can be heard all over my own channel. I enjoyed the reimagining of the Metallica Riffs. It was interesting to think of those riffs in a new way, but I would also agree with the Old Skoolers that nothing tops those original riffs. Nice work either way! 🤘🏼😜

  • @chris_2714
    @chris_27142 жыл бұрын

    I'm a boomer. I like both the older and newer metal. However the thrash metal from the 80s is where my best memories were formed so will always be my favourite.

  • @mattozx6rr
    @mattozx6rr Жыл бұрын

    As a Boomer I can honestly say I love both! i have been lucky enough to hear this all evolve over the last 40 years and really enjoy it from one end to the other.

  • @stepeters
    @stepeters2 жыл бұрын

    Haha great video Pete. I'm of "boomer" age (as my son often reminds me) and grew up listening to Metallica, Anthrax, Kreator and Slayer etc. so appreciate the music that they created that I was fortunate to witness live in the mid 80's. I also like a lot of the modern detuned metal. Faves at the moment are Annisokay. If we're being honest the statement that it "all sounds the same" can easily apply to boomer and zoomer metal. Chill and give all of it a try that's what I say.

  • @ghouliethousandtrouser2905

    @ghouliethousandtrouser2905

    Жыл бұрын

    If you're a boomer, wouldn't you have been between like 25 and 40 in the mid 80s? From context I think you might be gen-x. That's a whole different thing, lol. Not try'na be a smartarse, I'm just oddly fascinated by generational differences.

  • @stepeters

    @stepeters

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ghouliethousandtrouser2905 😀 - no idea my friend. All these "names" the young 'uns have for us confuses me. FYI, i was born in 1970 so i'm 52. Had the wonderful pleasure of seeing most of the Thrash greats in their prime. No phones in sight.

  • @killercharlie08
    @killercharlie082 жыл бұрын

    For me, the thing with the ultra low tunings of modern metal is that at some point there is no definition or dynamics, is just a very low noise. Again, for me it’s the most boring thing in the world. There are some positives though, eg. if I want to rest in a mountain of heaviness, sonically speaking, I gravitate to most modern metal sounds.

  • @graniteoverworld8955

    @graniteoverworld8955

    2 жыл бұрын

    I personally find i bottom out around B Standard. The only thing I like lower is probably the Doom 2016 soundtrack, but that's because in a lot of instances, Mick Gordon remembered to write actual songs.

  • @TheManagerDuck

    @TheManagerDuck

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I've recently bought an 8-string from a friend for run. The 8th string is basically a gimmic. It is really low, but has zero dynamics, sound is unreadable, sloppy, dull. On 7th string guitar instantly comes alive, 8th is a mess. I think it is really hard to nail the tone for such low tunings. But if you manage, you have a chance to hit hard as Doom 2016 did.

  • @EYOUTz1993

    @EYOUTz1993

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheManagerDuck yeah, if you watch someone like Dean Lamb from Archspire play their songs, he's using the top 7 a lot more with the 8th string used in certain parts for the lows. I don't think 8 strings usually work too well from the low end up with a 6 or 7 string approach.

  • @beastlybeast2716

    @beastlybeast2716

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheManagerDuck I think the magic rule with the eight string is to just use your lower notes sparingly. But we all know how metal and subtlety go together… “Hmmm how should this go? I’m just gonna bang the fuck out of the bottom string.” I’m guilty of it too

  • @Kruegernator123

    @Kruegernator123

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have that same sentiment towards that. 7+ string guitars also sacrifice clarity for playing lower, and to me the tone ends up sounding really muddy.

  • @uwvadertje
    @uwvadertje2 жыл бұрын

    def gona have to rewatch this one a handful of times, thank you Pete !! this video hyped me up haha

  • @tabberacci8541
    @tabberacci85412 жыл бұрын

    Pete, your riff writing skill is phenomenal. I lean towards old school metal as I am a boomer but you make everything sound fantastic. You got to release more of your own music for us to enjoy outside of KZread!

  • @ToxicSentinelTTV
    @ToxicSentinelTTV2 жыл бұрын

    When I write i use a lot of string skipping, low string bends, exceedingly low drop tunings, galloping and palm muting and to me it sounds good to me, just like what I listened to as a kid

  • @joebaritone6031
    @joebaritone60312 жыл бұрын

    It really doesn’t matter what you play! It all sounds amazing. 6 string, 7 string, 8 string or even “one” on 1 string! I think you’re the best example of playing “best of both worlds” but you chugging on that Agile always gets me man! When is there going to be an album full of that stuff? 😎 Keep rocking! 🤘🏻

  • @Nyrlyat
    @Nyrlyat2 жыл бұрын

    I just like Metal period...tho them classy riffs hit a chord with me

  • @brunosarue
    @brunosarue Жыл бұрын

    Amazing Riffs, Pete! Love all your videos and interpretations! You are a very talented composer and guitar player!

  • @thegiganticgiant4485
    @thegiganticgiant44852 жыл бұрын

    Great playing and a nice way to highlight both styles. I love both... definitely going to have to pick "old school," if I had to choose one, though. There's more room for iconic riffage... even in your own examples. They sound bigger. More iconic. As badass as the zoomer riffs were, they did sound similar to me, whereas the old school riffs sounded very different.

  • @idiotburns
    @idiotburns2 жыл бұрын

    OMG, this is so crazy I just found this channel, this guy plays more in my vein and style than any other youtube guitarist I have found, or is it just this video, gonna subscribe and find out!

  • @MDTAR15
    @MDTAR152 жыл бұрын

    I'm in my 50's...grew up in Southern California...hung out at "Gazzarri's on The Strip", "The Troubadour", "The Whisky" and many others..when i was real young, we used to sneak into these places and watch the bands. It was the best time of my life. I've heard many of Rock N Rolls greatest artists when they were just up-and-coming...and i'm here to tell ya.. "Boomer" or "Zoomer" or whatever people wanna call it....You ROCK either way!! Since i don't come from the internet era, i don't hate on anything...live and let live or die pissed off and alone. Keep Rockin' Pete!

  • @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS
    @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS2 жыл бұрын

    I'm a "boomer" according to my kid but I LIKE this new stuff and BOG Studios does entire classic Metallica/Meshuggah albums that totally SLAM!

  • @mattwyatt7971
    @mattwyatt79712 жыл бұрын

    I will say you can tell he really is down the middle because every riff is solid and very well put together. Like none of them are half assed in any way and very true to the genre and sound. Very good. 🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @drewharper1891
    @drewharper18912 жыл бұрын

    I will say this, I was raised on a wide variety of music from, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's etc. Metal became my thing a long time ago, however, musicians have taken what they have learned and improved upon it. You couldn't ask for a better thing, Happy New Year's everyone. 🎇🎉🤘

  • @MetalRenard
    @MetalRenard2 жыл бұрын

    On fire as always. Loved the vid where you re-imagined Metallica, loved this one too.

  • @michaelmiller5177
    @michaelmiller51772 жыл бұрын

    Love them both. Millennial metal heads, we like all that heavy shit.

  • @BigMacAttack83

    @BigMacAttack83

    2 жыл бұрын

    You damn Skippy

  • @Samael_Morningstar666
    @Samael_Morningstar6662 жыл бұрын

    I love a lot of the modern riffs but i also love the sound of the older riffs and the older stuff was what got me into the genre. Really torn between the two but I guess I would chose older if I was forced to chose, partly because I love the sound of the early days like Metallica, Judas Priest, etc.

  • @kenanatkinson7335
    @kenanatkinson73352 жыл бұрын

    When the second Zoomer riff hit, I remembered what side I'm on 😌 so groovy. Great video!

  • @dfhgdfgcc
    @dfhgdfgcc2 жыл бұрын

    I can't say I like one version more than the other but I can say I appreciate the differences and love them both. It's always good to branch out, try new things and do your own thing in that. Thanks for all the music!

  • @HeBleedsBlack
    @HeBleedsBlack2 жыл бұрын

    Nice video! I am neither a boomer or zoomer, just a Metal Head to my core. I closed my eyes, and listened to both. The "boomer" metal slays it with technique, note articulation, and cohesiveness. The "zoomer" metal was in contrast to those three categories. Also, the grove was better on "boomer" metal. If it were not for the drums, the zoomer metal would have been a mudd puddle at some points. Blending them both would be okay, but not with the muddy G# lows.

  • @LionidasL10
    @LionidasL102 жыл бұрын

    Man that 150 Zoomer bit was catchy as fuck. I do feel like the Boomer metal is maybe closer to late 90s 2000s metal than 70s/80s. Maybe its just the virtuoso solos or some of the high pitches that are missing.

  • @steeeeeve536
    @steeeeeve5362 жыл бұрын

    I’m with you on this one man, both classic and modern metal are great. Also I really liked that 8 sting riff, it was sick 🤘🏻

  • @pavloslazarou3697
    @pavloslazarou36972 жыл бұрын

    Every riff played in this video was absolutely insane!

  • @DjentyB
    @DjentyB2 жыл бұрын

    People: "My favorite era of metal is best!" Me: *"METAL IS METAL"*

  • @unmike19
    @unmike192 жыл бұрын

    Some sick riffs and playing in both styles. As someone who grew up in Metallica, the first "boomer" riffs sounded like them and feel...like I've heard it a bunch of different ways where the newer stuff was so interesting and dynamic. That beings said, I like both for very different reasons. Love your playing as always sir. That picking hand is machine like!

  • @omegaman420
    @omegaman4202 жыл бұрын

    I am the same as you I am somewhere in the middle and like both old school and new school metal. Weather or not you like the modern metal sound can't deny that the modern metal sound is the future of metal today, but at the same time we can't forget and give up on our roots and where metal started and came from.

  • @NelsonBlakeII
    @NelsonBlakeII2 жыл бұрын

    Pete I have that same Chapman but I just threw some Bareknuckle Juggernauts in it and now it's my favorite guitar of all time.

  • @RandomActsofGibberish
    @RandomActsofGibberish2 жыл бұрын

    Having grown up in the '80s, I am definitely a fan of the age's riffage. I personally feel the best music came from the early '70's thru to early '90s, in terms of rock and metal. Some of the newer stuff is ok, but the most played on my playlist is '80s.

  • @Volchara007ua
    @Volchara007ua2 жыл бұрын

    You do everything good! Keep it up! Rock and roll l_l

  • @thetobi583
    @thetobi583 Жыл бұрын

    Myself, I'm stuck in a late 90's/early 00's state of metal. I can see where the earlier gens say the newer gens all sound the same (to me, most of them do), but new metal can come out with absolute bangers.

  • @fundus6463
    @fundus64632 жыл бұрын

    I wish to listen to a full album of Modern/Oldschool. It's blasts!

  • @krthkh
    @krthkh2 жыл бұрын

    New age or old school, we fuckin love your playing man, killer riffs and even killer tone

  • @panic-revv85
    @panic-revv85 Жыл бұрын

    I dig the fox shirt! Where'd you get it?

  • @pookie6362
    @pookie63622 жыл бұрын

    what do you recommend for a solid beginner electric guitar?

  • @DavideBaccanelli
    @DavideBaccanelli2 жыл бұрын

    I'm 47 years old and this is BY FAR one of the best (If not THE best) youtube metal channels I've ever seen. The problem with internet is IGNORANCE. I obviously love and prefer old school metal boys, but that doesn't stop me from seeing how good you are and hearing the quality of your recordings. Greetings from Italy ;-)

  • @stengah101
    @stengah1012 жыл бұрын

    Well said Pete and awesome playing.

  • @Guitargasm
    @Guitargasm2 жыл бұрын

    Sweet af riffs dude! That boomer metal 150bpm instantly got my head bobbing and my foot tapping :D

  • @YatiAcharya
    @YatiAcharya2 жыл бұрын

    Idc about which era you're covering, as long as you're covering it. You rock, dude! 😎🤙🏻

  • @brettpereira4406
    @brettpereira44062 жыл бұрын

    I lean towards the older stuff but good music is good music!! I Loved it ALL!! Well done, you are super talented 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @Godmil
    @Godmil2 жыл бұрын

    This has been really useful for me to understand my musical tastes. I definitely prefer the older sounding stuff, and I've decided that it's ok for me to do that, and just let other people like the newer stuff. 🙂

  • @SICRoosterKido
    @SICRoosterKido2 жыл бұрын

    As a millennial who grew up with the Knot, I like the organic sound and soul of older metal, and the precision and attack of newer metal. But 90% of newer bands do sound the same because of technology ironically. So it's 50-50 for me in music as whole. For metal, I do prefer the newer styles since they try to evolve the genre. Depends on the mood and day :D

  • @flippynator6905
    @flippynator69052 жыл бұрын

    both sounds just amazing! honestly as much as I like old school stuff, but i also love modern metal because it have a certain groove that 80's music didn't have

  • @MaelstromTheDemon
    @MaelstromTheDemon2 жыл бұрын

    First and foremost, awesome video as always, Pete, and sick riffs as always dude! I think it's a lot less of a generational argument than it's portrayed to be, because there are plenty of modern bands out there who take massive influence from older generations and make it their own. Eclipse, Ambush, Bullet, Sabire, Enforcer, Haunt, Rhythm Of Fear, just to name a few. The "Modern" sound doesn't really have a definitive, well, sound, because of the sheer number of subgenres out there. Some are newer than others, sure. But even that doesn't mean there aren't new bands in older subgenres. I don't really agree with the concept of "Boomer VS Zoomer" because that oversimplification is what can lead to a lot discourse, drama, and polarization. Besides there are some bands out there, like Revocation for example, who blend old-school with modern in a way that blurs the line to the point that it's gone. I guess this is all a long-winded way of me saying that both have merit and there's not really a point in separating the two styles simply because "Boomer VS Zoomer". Both are great and worth enjoying.

  • @DARRKNESS99
    @DARRKNESS992 жыл бұрын

    I think your riffs are just good in general, Pete 👍I dunno, I'm in the camp of goodness being defined by the individual song and not the era it came from. Like, I recently bought an 8 string specifically to play Mick Gordon stuff, but I get as much of a rush off playing slayer riffs as well. As long as people keep putting care into their music, music will continue to be good.

  • @ragerangelov4490
    @ragerangelov4490 Жыл бұрын

    the sylosis riff in the beggining sold it for me!!!

  • @MasterSplinterPDX
    @MasterSplinterPDX Жыл бұрын

    They're both badass. Metal heads, we should focus on being happy that metal is still good and didn't end up like hip hop did.

  • @AlexTV_RBX
    @AlexTV_RBX6 ай бұрын

    Because I grew up in the modern day with my parents showing me modern stuff and older stuff, I quite liked modern stuff at the time, so I was a core kid at heart. Then finding all the stuff going on nowadays, I'm even more in love with modern metal.

  • @andrewcurry4745
    @andrewcurry47452 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see beanie merch! Would help when writing meaty riffs

  • @NATE1717BALLIN
    @NATE1717BALLIN Жыл бұрын

    Both fucking SLAP! 80s metal has like a summer/autumn feel to me now its hard to explain

  • @jsk8et
    @jsk8et2 жыл бұрын

    I like parts of both…have you taken newer riffs and made them old school? I think it’s cool to put things through the lenses of another era or another genre.

  • @TheMickey0718
    @TheMickey0718 Жыл бұрын

    I like both, but that’s probably because I grew up listening to classic rock (which has a bigger influence on older metal) and I randomly fell in love with modern prog metal too.

  • @markjonza4319
    @markjonza43192 жыл бұрын

    Love how music can evolve!!! Pete..bud you.....ARE ONE OF THE BEST. Hands down ..can't wait to hear your own..!!👍

  • @gregharder2765
    @gregharder27652 жыл бұрын

    Man, I'm so glad that I like both of these!

  • @Ilantir
    @Ilantir2 жыл бұрын

    I always loved the 80's style of metal, but by 2010 I thought "I've heard everything there is to hear in metal" and turned to electronic music. Luckily this new style came around to pump some new energy into the metal scene.

  • @clarkjones7934
    @clarkjones79342 жыл бұрын

    What are the names of these songs? Specifically the one at 3:13

  • @roypalvadeau6990
    @roypalvadeau69902 жыл бұрын

    Hey Pete, what is your personal favorite style of metal?

  • @tomaszkozikowski9224
    @tomaszkozikowski92242 жыл бұрын

    your playing and music writing is on a great level! like 2SICH you should make a collab :)

  • @michaeleae4207
    @michaeleae42072 жыл бұрын

    I just love metal. They both have a soft spot in my heart.

  • @mangagnome9764
    @mangagnome97642 жыл бұрын

    4:00 favorite riff!🔥🔥🔥🔥🤘🤘🤘

  • @AnimalJohn85
    @AnimalJohn852 жыл бұрын

    Struggle with gettin me head round 6 strings let alone 8! Good effort, some stonkin riffage on both sides of the coin there.

  • @Jopeymessmusic
    @Jopeymessmusic2 жыл бұрын

    Lol, I like both and everything in between too. What I've noticed personally when learning them. Is that there's a lot more emphasis on the picking hand in the older style than modern metal,which focuses on intervals and fret hand variety a little more. Sure modern bands exist where it's the same but they're not nearly as popular as the stuff this video is about. Noice video as usual though.

  • @DhavalVaghela56
    @DhavalVaghela562 жыл бұрын

    That Zoomer riff at around 4 min mark sounds BFG division inspired :D

  • @Mark-zi6nt
    @Mark-zi6nt2 жыл бұрын

    Pete, could you please replicate Unearth's tone? I'm hungry for some of their tone and chugs

  • @Sandman60077
    @Sandman600772 жыл бұрын

    I like both, but the riffs from older metal are so much better. A lot of the newer stuff it's hard to even tell what the riff is.

  • @nordicshredder4128
    @nordicshredder41282 жыл бұрын

    the first old metal riff you played sounds like a blind gaurdian riff if alex skolnick was their guitarist

  • @Quusikko
    @Quusikko2 жыл бұрын

    I lean more towards the oldschool, but that's of course mostly because of my metal journey. Having found CoB & Nightwish at the turn of the millenium and going to Death's old catalog, Cannibal Corpse, Rammstein etc. from there laid the foundation of my taste. For example though, Slayer took a long time to grow on me. Reign in Blood sounded all the same to me and the 1st time I heard it I stopped after 4 songs. Now I love the band though, and the album. But I don't shunn modern metal, even if I don't get it all that much. There are still some bands and songs I love. It's just good to try and expand your musical horizon, it gives you so much more.

  • @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS

    @THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like Slayer too!

  • @colorsunseen
    @colorsunseen2 жыл бұрын

    Like the idea, but I think you didn't showcase the modern metal as well as you did the old school - to me it was just one djenty\architects-like riff (besides a deathcore one at the end), when there are more different types of modern riffs out there

  • @wyattfreihon4048
    @wyattfreihon40482 жыл бұрын

    I’m not gonna lie you could put that second 80’s riff in a Van Halen album and I might not even notice 🤯

  • @OldManTenno
    @OldManTenno Жыл бұрын

    Do I hear a little John Sykes in the second boomer riff?

  • @RuudGerrevink
    @RuudGerrevink2 жыл бұрын

    Well I guess I'm a boomer (born in '61). Musically I appreciate both but the 6-string just sounds better to my ear.

  • @dannytheguitarwarrior
    @dannytheguitarwarrior2 жыл бұрын

    I try, I seriously try to get into nowadays metal, and there are some good bands nowadays. But man, that 210 BPM fast as lightning riffing style is one of the things I love the most about metal

  • @nikkmorse
    @nikkmorse2 жыл бұрын

    Yes Pete, been waiting for a new vid, you never dissapoint 🤘🏼😈🤘🏼 I also agree, I like older metal and newer metal

  • @peteplaysmusic

    @peteplaysmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching! :)

  • @nikkmorse

    @nikkmorse

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@peteplaysmusic Always Brother 🤘🏼😈🤘🏼

  • @PureJadeKid
    @PureJadeKid Жыл бұрын

    The winner is Pete. You rock and all of these riffs got me headbanging.

  • @peteplaysmusic

    @peteplaysmusic

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! :)

  • @kikomalolschannel_8917
    @kikomalolschannel_89172 жыл бұрын

    3:59 that soundtrack for new Doom game sounds good

  • @demonicsquid7217
    @demonicsquid7217 Жыл бұрын

    That last piece was like some unholy combination of Meshugga and Gojira. Nice. Bit late to the party obviously, but there is no 'better'. The music is a product of it's time, contemporary metal is a reaction to sociological and environmental changes plus a desire to be the antithesis of 'pop music' or more accurately, the entertainment industry. There's also the technological factor to consider, as tools to make music and manipulate sound continue to evolve so does the product of modern writers and performers.

  • @NiklasMeads
    @NiklasMeads2 жыл бұрын

    That part at 4:53 sounded killer!

  • @BruceCopperfield
    @BruceCopperfield2 жыл бұрын

    I like modern bands inspired by old ones, like Revocation, Sylosis, The Black Dahlia Murder, Gojira and LoG or new albums by old bands like Testament, Exodus, Cynic, etc. Basically boomer metal ftw :)

  • @peteplaysmusic

    @peteplaysmusic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sylosis are one of my faves too :)

  • @kevinc6323
    @kevinc63232 жыл бұрын

    The thing that should nt be was detuned a little. For me the riffs are less of an issue -if its I can understand the vocals. Loved the sound of Boltthrower for example but could not understand them so preferred other contemporaries. An issue I also have with modern metal is being a Gen-X, my hearing is not quite what it was and the definition of the low end is flabbier to me than I'm sure it is for others. As much as the speaker cone makes the most difference to guitar tone, an aging ear makes a difference too. But remember if we are not allowed to reimagine songs in new ways, there would be now Pete & Frog Leap Studios' Hello... and that would make the world a much sadder place.

  • @roadrunnerplaying
    @roadrunnerplaying2 жыл бұрын

    I digged all but the last one. No issues at all with old or new stuff

  • @renespeksnijder8815
    @renespeksnijder88152 жыл бұрын

    I listened to all of them and then just had the first riff on repeat for 7 minutes:-) That is nice old-school thrash riff right there. I think whatever you grew up with sticks as being the best. I like my 7 and 8 strings, but to be honest 8 strings only when listening to Meshuggah. Give me Jeff Loomis over anybody else every single day on a 7. On 6 I'm cool with almost anything.

  • @joedamore7653
    @joedamore76532 жыл бұрын

    I like both. Why not enjoy it all? Great job Pete. Tight!