This has been a terrific series. I have been a disciple for 50 years. I have much to say on the subject. However, you have done an excellent job.

The Joe Rogan material was no more rough than what many of the former pastors, elders, and deacons from Mars Hill were using in the podcast's earlier episodes. I was shocked at what was coming out of their mouths.

Thank you.

Darn good production

What would Jesus think of hillsong? Well any tables there would have been upturned

Min 20:27 is the military mentality. “What you want properly trained and educated, you don’t know this already”. The military and religion institutions parallel each other on many levels.

Perhaps in addition to rediscovering graveyards and alter calls, we should replace the pulpit with the communion (Eucharist) table as the center of our gatherings?

@littlepenny1520

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t agree more. So grateful to be Orthodox.

@JOY-HIS

2 жыл бұрын

Agree!!

@careyvinzant

2 жыл бұрын

Word and table are the twin centers of Christian worship. We need both and we don't get to choose between them. Word without table yields a sterile, rationalistic distortion of the Gospel, one in which God is inevitably shoved into logical boxes He doesn't fit. Table without word leads to an essentially magical sacramentalism, like the state of Catholicism leading up to the Reformation, with all its abuses and uncritically accepted extrabiblical traditions. We need the word to guide and correct us, and we also need the table to feed, inspire, and humble us.

Having attended Mars Hill from start to end, I found the podcast interesting but I'd warn that if you are not willing to listen to it critically there is a risk of making fallacious associations listening to each of these "bonus" podcasts. Yeah, there are a lot of great lessons to be learned from the the podcasts - but then weaving the mistakes of Mark Driscoll in with other non-related stories in a multi-episode docuseries format feels like an overboard one sided attack on a single person. While some great points are being made, it's dishonest to liken Lentz with Driscoll because both were both hip and charismatic pastors. That's like likening R.C. Sproul or McArthur with Driscoll to elevate him because all three held reformed theological leanings. I would advise lumping this "bonus" podcast in with the Rise and Fall of Mars Hill series as it has so little to do with it. Call it something else.. Don't throw it in with the Rise & Fall of Mars Hill series.

@nsalaza

Жыл бұрын

Though I understand your point, I think the point of comparing this with Hillsong was to illustrate the phenomenon of modern-day pastoral celebrity via today's celebrity culture as well as the historicity of what has led up to these phenomena. Therefore, I think the link was highly relative. The episode was not trying to equate Hillsong's unique malfeasance to that of Driscoll's. Rather, it was attempting to illustrate how widespread the phenomenon has become and why it has happened.

@ezbody

8 ай бұрын

It points out the epidemic of narcissism and abuse both, in Christianity, and in the so-called Conservativism. I don't know much about R.C. Sproul, but John MacArthur certainly qualifies as one of the "heroes" of this story.

What is with the swearing???

One day I'll find the perfect one for me They will be pretty and funny at least to me Crooked teeth and everything I wanna meet my perfect lady I think I saw her at the picture with her only I think I saw her at the picture with him I move towards her and she thinks of him And the holidays we spend with our friends Across the country we find ourselves again Another galaxy removed from ourselves I think we met in a station in some city Maybe I'll find the right one for me One day I'll find the right one for me She will be pretty and funny at least to me Pigeon feet and everything I wanna meet my perfect lady I think I saw her at the diner with her only I think I saw her at the drive in with him I stare at her and she's lovin' him Maybe I'll find the right one for me Maybe I'll find, maybe I'll find Maybe I'll find Maybe I'll find the right one for me Maybe I'll find the right one for me

You ask why this keeps happening it happens because God says in the Bible, the judgment begins in the house of the Lord. How can you look at the world and the world system, and complain about that when the church does it take care of their stuff.

Around min 44:28 is why I don’t believe in being evenly yoked in relationships. Having kind of any relationship with a Christian can lead to more suffering bc they’re controlling and use one’s salvation against them to bleed out what their will is for the other. This rings especially true in marriages where the husband is given full authority to control his wife. Yeah…phukk that.

@50:55 there is your problem,as mentioned before by yourself that triumphalism has gotten us here.We don’t know how to build something better.Scripture tells us Jesus Builds His Church.Ephesians also speaks about the offices producing the image of Christ in the body

Interesting you compare hill song to mars hills! I guess it fits your narrative! Nothing to do with truth

@fredbarnesjr.1044

6 ай бұрын

It’s total truth and 🎻😭for you if you can’t see that

What's with the expletives? This does not represent Christ. Shame on you.

@vicj2141

Жыл бұрын

I'm not so sure about that. I think that Jesus trashing the vendors in the temple was a form of expletive.

@PianoDisneygal10

10 ай бұрын

Neither the creators of this podcast nor anybody associated with Christianity Today used expletives on this episode. The swear words were uttered by Joe Rogan, a non religious podcaster.

@careyvinzant

8 ай бұрын

"Straining at gnats and swallowing camels..."

@ezbody

8 ай бұрын

It's like chastising a homeless person for being a sloppy dresser, completely tone deaf.

@TheDannywolff

3 ай бұрын

People that drop comments such as this are the ones that you need to be careful of…..