Bog Islands is Confusing! (Low Elo Legends)
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Bog Islands was recently voted into the ranked pool and it's a very confusing map. Watch and learn what to do or what not to do on this multi-terrained and messy map!
Docks Need Changing: • AoE2 Docks Need To Change
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The incorporating of the map vote to the home screen has been IMO one of the best change the devs made. Before it was like 50 hardcore AOE2 purists who held all the control and never allowed any novel map concepts. IDK who could wver think that was better for the game. By having more variety and community input you’re going to maintain a stronger player base.
@leviathan1832
Жыл бұрын
totally agree. Arabia and Arena aren't going anywhere so it's awesome to get wackier starts and see more of the numerous map types that are underutilized by the online crowd
@martijnbouman8874
Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that those purists used to complain on the forums that too many whacky maps were voted in and that things would be better if the map voting got moved to ingame! Of course, this only lead to *more* whacky maps being voted in.
@electricalmayhem
Жыл бұрын
Yes as a low elo player I vote for the weird maps Ive never played before, and enjoy the different games. It feels like a bit of uncertainty on both sides is more interesting then the standard meta on Arabia or Arena etc
@davidpineda9160
Жыл бұрын
@@martijnbouman8874 NOOOOO YOU CAN'T PICK ANYTHING OTHER THAN ARABIARINO OR ARENARINOOO NOOOOO
@JohnSmith-tk7nt
Жыл бұрын
I agree with the idea youre stating but these hybrid shallows maps are the wrong representation for the game imo. The relationship between navy and army units is still so convoluted, there are tons of bonus damage relationships that i guarantee even T90 doesnt know about. They actually addressed a few of them in the upcoming April giant patch (bonus damage to camels from ships if i remember?) but there are still things that need to be fixed so players will understand what they should be making to counter what when ships meet land army. Example: few players know that spearmen get bonus damage against some (all?) ships. another weird interaction its hard to find exact data on but its definitely there. Leaves too many situations where youre gonna get wiped by units that theres no reason you should lose to. At lower levels if you dont care, fine, but at higher levels there are strategies being developed and people care about their ELO and its janky to have these wildcard maps that just shift the meta entirely with little intelligent thought behind the relationship between units that rarely ever meet on the battlefield
Me and my friends picked up the game again a month ago and 20 games in we were SHOCKED to realize there is a frickin SECOND PAGE in the docks, lol!
@searchnotfound
Жыл бұрын
I realize that after a year...
@kaybee9363
Жыл бұрын
What!?
@krystofcisar469
Жыл бұрын
I realized that maybe in year 2005, and nobody told us back then :D
feudal galleys, fire galleys and demos are all upgraded together with the galley upgrade. I think that the best they could do to make it a little bit more intuitive for newer players without changing the game would be to make it so that the upgrade icon should appear beneath all three of them. You click any of those 3 upgrades and you upgrade them all
watch some of the older videos of T90 to see how much he's grown! such perfect casting now, amazing! I don't even play the game much but I like listening to this guy, such intelligent and friendly casting, not to mention the life stories :))
1200-1300 elo here. 300+ ranked games played. Did not know war galley also upgraded fire ships 😂
@krystofcisar469
Жыл бұрын
how? :D how can you be 1300 and dont know basics of the game? :D
Really liking the mix of yt specific vids and stream vids. Theres something fun about listening to your banter with chat, keeps stuff fresh in the slower bits of gameplay.
i love that every night when i get home from work, a t90 vid is waiting to lul me to sleep with dank rts gameplay.
Tristan, I've been watching you for a couple of years now and I must say.. I hope you really keep enjoying making content for us. Because I have been it enjoying it so much! Much Love Yannick
Here I am, just finished watching the highly-anticipated WALL video, about to go to sleep at 1 a.m. and another T90 video drops
The issue with the older videos (like 5 years or older) is not that it's not entertaining, it is. The issue is that your voice sounds like a completely different guy xD
T90, I’m a true LEL. I bought this game maybe a year or so ago after one of your streams came up on my suggested. I’ve followed your KZread stuff pretty closely since. I’ve even watched your video about how broken the dock menu is- AND I STILL GET CONFUSED BY IT. I don’t comment ever, on any videos. But, yeah, something has got to change.
If I'm not mistaken in the past you only had access to fire ships once War Galley was researched, so in my mind it still makes sense to add previous version of those for early game and then get them upgraded in the same exact way. Of course I would agree that not having individual upgrade techs is bizarre to say the least since that's how the rest of the game works, but it doesn't really bother me, it's cool to know that the game is being supported and evolving compared to the Forgotten days, maybe they will do something about it in the future
Played my first Bog Islands match yesterday, it is demo ship heaven. Basically only made demos in feudal. 10/10 map, Dave would love
@xrayjohnson6972
Жыл бұрын
Would add, great strat is to sneak early demos into the back of the enemies base and let them chill until they expand into them
I can understand the fire galley / demo raft upgrade being confusing, but I never had trouble with the dock's 2nd page. I was able to figure it out at 11yo when AoE2 came out. Then again maybe people don't play the tutorials anymore.
@justkev6277
6 ай бұрын
Right, it's as simple as wondering what the arrow button does on the dock. It's not intuitive, but it's not exactly rocket science either.
Regarding the dock: If devs want to keep the two pages, I'd say put the eco ships on page 1 and the military ships on page 2
@robertlewis6915
Жыл бұрын
And make sure the 'next page' button is super obvious, in order to make sure they actually make military ships.
Hoping for some demo ships hitting archers
He beats Italians with the one unit that really shouldn't be beating Italians, poor guy.
Your intro reminded me when i played water nomas on a low elo tourney last year. I had a blast. I love non-standard maps. I need to try this map
I have been enjoying watching tour videos passively while working. Thanks for the great content and commentary.
Speaking of Not getting off the hook, Remember When T90 Made 3 Archery Ranges on a Neutral Island? Bet he didn't think we forget about that.
Ever thought about making a video every time the new map rotations come in to go over each of the new maps and metas?
i absolutely love the tropical setting and water/island stuff but actually playing it is horrendous and odd so many different routes you have to check and pathing you cant build on swamp but walk there, ships on "land" is weird, etc.
Oh my... These odd scenarios produce so much fun in your hands its incredible...
The good thing about this map is that low ELO legends won't get gebaited researching heated shot.
@T90Official the dock thing you mentioned that the war galley tech also upgrades your demos and fires messed me up as a returning player from the Age of Kings days. Back then, each ship had a separate tab under it to make the elite versions, but now all of them have been consolidated into a single tech that is confusing. It wasn't until I had played a bunch of games before I realized this was the case, and I thought fire ships were still fire ships by default (not the weaker fire *galleys*) for awhile too. I probably should have paid more attention but it's not the most clear thing to even returning players tbh
love your channel bro. thank you.
39:30 - best moment
In the original release of AoE2 demos and fires were castle age ships only
Digging the multiple LEL videos to YT…:thank you!
totally agree about fire ships being on the second page. for a few hours of gameplay I had no idea how to build them :|
I tend to find the second page of the docks midway through a water game, swear profusely, remember it for a couple more games and then forget it as soon as I don't play a water map for a few days. Considering I only play a couple times a week at most, I don't often make demos or fires. I did know about the war galley upgrade applying to all the ships because I read the lil tooltip they put on it one time and remembered that but I usually just assume I'm playing a civ that doesn't get much navy.
I played and won my first online game last night and I’m pretty hyped. Fixing to try another one and see what happens.
Didn’t realize there were 2 pages on the dock. Thanks T90
T90 maybe those most common ships are on the second page because you'll likely use a keybind for those, whereas the specialty ships need to be easily accessible for mouse clicks.
>Playing on a water map, as the Italians, with a bunch of docks, and have established water control..... "Who tf really needs water anyways? I hate boats."
I was watching a lot of sotl videos and they talked about byzantine bonus fire galley firing speed. I assumed it was a byzantine special, Greek fire and all, but uh....there's that second page lol. It was probably my second or third water map I found the second page. Of course I mouse over all the icons to see what the dock could bring me. I did play 15 years ago but I never did a lot of navy action. Edit: to t90, I had the same question about watching matches from say the internet when I'm out and not at my pc. Or my phone, taking a lunch break. Thanks for answering!
Red got literally every upgrade in the game except the important ones haha. Something tells me he got random'd italians and doesnt know that genovese exist.
Blue could've also had some fun making kipchaks for the pikemen.
As for movies, John Wick 4 was AMAZING. Best one of the 4.
I wish they would do one upgade for imp ships too I like that they cut a lot of the expense of navy it still could do with being cut down a bit even futher (exept bombard)
Blue is the legend of raids,he raided red economy,he raided his own economy and he raided his own game with quality T90 cast XD Truly a legend
As someone who is new to AoE2 I thought "Man, a lot of civs don't have fire ships..." Nope... Making pages was an interesting design decision...
personaly i think if they would sort the ships by page in relevance to wether they are Eco or Army
Stream casts ftw! I came for the game commentary and knowledge, but I stayed for the family
T90 merch idea. Sweatshirt. On the front is a TC/mill and on the back is a villager on a farm
That was unbelievably frustrating from red.
If only red had a special unit that is anti-cav
@WigglyWings
Жыл бұрын
He didn't even need it. He had enough galleons at one point, if only they had bracer.
Love this map!!
If they just change the War Galleys tech name to perhaps War Ships, may make a little more sense. It's pretty easy once you know how it works though.
T90 thinks cannon galleons aren't a big deal.... lol.... they would completely dominate this map.
I haven't seen it myself but the new John wick and puss in boots is good
Big love to T90official - reignited my love for AoE
In terms of new movies, t90, gotta go with Everything Everywhere All At Once
I don't even play ranked but I vote for the weird maps so I can watch them casted
25:32 but reading is scary
I very much dislike this map lol 11:20 I didn't know that. I thought it was just bad luck lol
Yeah I just thought there were no upgrades for fire ship
Yea I made a comment on your last upload about how I couldn’t figure out how to upgrade my fire ships. I’m on Xbox and we have different menus. It’s just a wheel with no second page and it doesn’t tell you how to upgrade them. Someone responded and told me how and it says it in the tech tree but I had looked around but the way they have it setup on there is not intuitive at all.
So this was basically an Arabia game as they ignored the water haha. Good fun.
Thx t90
I thought dock changes were going to be part of that huge new patch change.
I voted this in. love it!
I won a Bog match today lithuanians vs franks felt like a giant
Eco dock, Navy dock. done.
I’ve seen some Xbox players curious about how they can get replays like players using capture age on PC so maybe that is where the question about viewing replays came from
Malay are strong for Bog Islands, wondering what you think would be top 3
I played AOE2 for years without realizing there is a second page on the dock... so many naval battles with no fire ships
@krystofcisar469
Жыл бұрын
They suck anyways :D Only good thing on them is 6 pierce armor. War galleys and demos are fun.
Someone should make a T90 LEL song where it clips all of his usual talking points like straggler trees and mine placement.
I still say the dock should be removed and replaced with two new buildings one for making civvie ships like fishing ships, trade cogs and transports and the other to make the military units
I usually vote for a new map, because playing the same things can get tedious
Always sad to see Italians lose, because it's actually a really strong nation to play as, especially on water map, but it's always the player that cannot utilise them.
thank you for another low elo video
This damn map man...
What are Aztecs supposed to do against paladin if not pikes? They don't get camels and their unique unit is trash. I guess if your apm is high enough you can go monks.
Re: 30:45 Again! T90 mentions that NO ONE has seen all his videos. Bro.... 2019 & 2020 were isolate times for some people. SOME 'people' binged your content morning to night for months on end. Although some 'people' haven't gotten to all your T90 extras stuff, your main channel is completely watched.
Arabia and Four Lakes bore me...
I'm newer to AOE2, do you guys play on the steam server?
@iamUglie
Жыл бұрын
Yes, people play the Definitive Edition on Steam
Nothing like Low Elo Throwers
what a meme map
@T90 You should tell noobs to control group 6 of their villagers before they lure the boar. Problem solved.
i personally find arabia, arena maps shit like that boring and prefer unique or full mega random tbh
And where can I watch the stream?
Wow, you thought Glass Onion was good? Yeesh.
Red just had to use patrol and would have won easy, his army control is terrible
Top Gun: Maverick
I'm really sad that people focus on specifics maps and don't play such maps that are really awesome. Just play the fucking game y'all I always random, Lot's of random gameplay there. Yeah I never won a game also.
AoE2 - The Movie!
Where can I submit clips? I just played a funny game
You content cured my aids syphilis
There is like literally nothing happening for an hour. My games against hard AI are more exciting than this😅. Why those people never make army and fight xD
Hey guys. Do you know how he finds these videos?
avatar 2 was good
OHHH WOW! Big secret reveal from T90. We have a map here with 80% water. I will in my great wisdom tell you what to make. You need to make SHIPS! And also you need to discover that huuge RED arrow on the docks build page. What ever could that ENORMOUS red arrow mean. Not even the great Uncle got it so then noooone ever could right??? Couse it is not blinking in many colours and have a flashing text saying CLICK HERE! That makes it super unintuative doesnt it? I have very little respect for the one map clowns. The beauties of this game are many, and one of the biggest in my oppinion is the variation it offers. Two games are never the same. Lets keep it that way. I dont want this game to turn into Starcraft where maps are all the same. And also big trees are beautiful and theres NOTHING wrong with them. 😎
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all right I feel like I just watched 30 mins of T90 telling us that the docs need clarifications, taking over the whole cast. Meant as feedback not flame.
Dune was good
Im extremely confused on how an italian player lost agaisnt a cuman in a hybrid map.
I don't play ranked but always vote for wonky maps just to throw a wrench
@krystofcisar469
Жыл бұрын
Thats why unrakned player shouldnt have any votes in any aspect of game :D
@MadMatty01
Жыл бұрын
@@krystofcisar469 I see it as community service, as it makes for some quality content to watch 11
I voted for this, but always just to troll people! haha Can you imagine T90 casts being played at theaters? That'd be fun... Also T90 is very low elo when it comes to movies...dude has never seen Lord of the Rings
whats up with that one person recommending Emily In Paris S3? It's basically "Disaster Person Making Disaster Decisions but hey FASHION!"...what an awful show