Bog Islands is Confusing! (Low Elo Legends)

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Bog Islands was recently voted into the ranked pool and it's a very confusing map. Watch and learn what to do or what not to do on this multi-terrained and messy map!
Docks Need Changing: • AoE2 Docks Need To Change
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  • @nathanfranks1476
    @nathanfranks1476 Жыл бұрын

    The incorporating of the map vote to the home screen has been IMO one of the best change the devs made. Before it was like 50 hardcore AOE2 purists who held all the control and never allowed any novel map concepts. IDK who could wver think that was better for the game. By having more variety and community input you’re going to maintain a stronger player base.

  • @leviathan1832

    @leviathan1832

    Жыл бұрын

    totally agree. Arabia and Arena aren't going anywhere so it's awesome to get wackier starts and see more of the numerous map types that are underutilized by the online crowd

  • @martijnbouman8874

    @martijnbouman8874

    Жыл бұрын

    The funny thing is that those purists used to complain on the forums that too many whacky maps were voted in and that things would be better if the map voting got moved to ingame! Of course, this only lead to *more* whacky maps being voted in.

  • @electricalmayhem

    @electricalmayhem

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes as a low elo player I vote for the weird maps Ive never played before, and enjoy the different games. It feels like a bit of uncertainty on both sides is more interesting then the standard meta on Arabia or Arena etc

  • @davidpineda9160

    @davidpineda9160

    Жыл бұрын

    @@martijnbouman8874 NOOOOO YOU CAN'T PICK ANYTHING OTHER THAN ARABIARINO OR ARENARINOOO NOOOOO

  • @JohnSmith-tk7nt

    @JohnSmith-tk7nt

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree with the idea youre stating but these hybrid shallows maps are the wrong representation for the game imo. The relationship between navy and army units is still so convoluted, there are tons of bonus damage relationships that i guarantee even T90 doesnt know about. They actually addressed a few of them in the upcoming April giant patch (bonus damage to camels from ships if i remember?) but there are still things that need to be fixed so players will understand what they should be making to counter what when ships meet land army. Example: few players know that spearmen get bonus damage against some (all?) ships. another weird interaction its hard to find exact data on but its definitely there. Leaves too many situations where youre gonna get wiped by units that theres no reason you should lose to. At lower levels if you dont care, fine, but at higher levels there are strategies being developed and people care about their ELO and its janky to have these wildcard maps that just shift the meta entirely with little intelligent thought behind the relationship between units that rarely ever meet on the battlefield

  • @stain2901
    @stain2901 Жыл бұрын

    Me and my friends picked up the game again a month ago and 20 games in we were SHOCKED to realize there is a frickin SECOND PAGE in the docks, lol!

  • @searchnotfound

    @searchnotfound

    Жыл бұрын

    I realize that after a year...

  • @kaybee9363

    @kaybee9363

    Жыл бұрын

    What!?

  • @krystofcisar469

    @krystofcisar469

    Жыл бұрын

    I realized that maybe in year 2005, and nobody told us back then :D

  • @Monkeybone_
    @Monkeybone_ Жыл бұрын

    feudal galleys, fire galleys and demos are all upgraded together with the galley upgrade. I think that the best they could do to make it a little bit more intuitive for newer players without changing the game would be to make it so that the upgrade icon should appear beneath all three of them. You click any of those 3 upgrades and you upgrade them all

  • @lancelotdulac6076
    @lancelotdulac6076 Жыл бұрын

    watch some of the older videos of T90 to see how much he's grown! such perfect casting now, amazing! I don't even play the game much but I like listening to this guy, such intelligent and friendly casting, not to mention the life stories :))

  • @m.aviator99
    @m.aviator99 Жыл бұрын

    1200-1300 elo here. 300+ ranked games played. Did not know war galley also upgraded fire ships 😂

  • @krystofcisar469

    @krystofcisar469

    Жыл бұрын

    how? :D how can you be 1300 and dont know basics of the game? :D

  • @MatthewKirchhof
    @MatthewKirchhof Жыл бұрын

    Really liking the mix of yt specific vids and stream vids. Theres something fun about listening to your banter with chat, keeps stuff fresh in the slower bits of gameplay.

  • @Elsneakakaze
    @Elsneakakaze Жыл бұрын

    i love that every night when i get home from work, a t90 vid is waiting to lul me to sleep with dank rts gameplay.

  • @yoyoyannick
    @yoyoyannick Жыл бұрын

    Tristan, I've been watching you for a couple of years now and I must say.. I hope you really keep enjoying making content for us. Because I have been it enjoying it so much! Much Love Yannick

  • @erikpuzanov4074
    @erikpuzanov4074 Жыл бұрын

    Here I am, just finished watching the highly-anticipated WALL video, about to go to sleep at 1 a.m. and another T90 video drops

  • @captainnimo7
    @captainnimo7 Жыл бұрын

    The issue with the older videos (like 5 years or older) is not that it's not entertaining, it is. The issue is that your voice sounds like a completely different guy xD

  • @josephromano3633
    @josephromano3633 Жыл бұрын

    T90, I’m a true LEL. I bought this game maybe a year or so ago after one of your streams came up on my suggested. I’ve followed your KZread stuff pretty closely since. I’ve even watched your video about how broken the dock menu is- AND I STILL GET CONFUSED BY IT. I don’t comment ever, on any videos. But, yeah, something has got to change.

  • @Zelta08
    @Zelta08 Жыл бұрын

    If I'm not mistaken in the past you only had access to fire ships once War Galley was researched, so in my mind it still makes sense to add previous version of those for early game and then get them upgraded in the same exact way. Of course I would agree that not having individual upgrade techs is bizarre to say the least since that's how the rest of the game works, but it doesn't really bother me, it's cool to know that the game is being supported and evolving compared to the Forgotten days, maybe they will do something about it in the future

  • @xrayjohnson6972
    @xrayjohnson6972 Жыл бұрын

    Played my first Bog Islands match yesterday, it is demo ship heaven. Basically only made demos in feudal. 10/10 map, Dave would love

  • @xrayjohnson6972

    @xrayjohnson6972

    Жыл бұрын

    Would add, great strat is to sneak early demos into the back of the enemies base and let them chill until they expand into them

  • @crimson_grog172
    @crimson_grog172 Жыл бұрын

    I can understand the fire galley / demo raft upgrade being confusing, but I never had trouble with the dock's 2nd page. I was able to figure it out at 11yo when AoE2 came out. Then again maybe people don't play the tutorials anymore.

  • @justkev6277

    @justkev6277

    6 ай бұрын

    Right, it's as simple as wondering what the arrow button does on the dock. It's not intuitive, but it's not exactly rocket science either.

  • @FloosWorld_AoE
    @FloosWorld_AoE Жыл бұрын

    Regarding the dock: If devs want to keep the two pages, I'd say put the eco ships on page 1 and the military ships on page 2

  • @robertlewis6915

    @robertlewis6915

    Жыл бұрын

    And make sure the 'next page' button is super obvious, in order to make sure they actually make military ships.

  • @thephelddagrif2907
    @thephelddagrif2907 Жыл бұрын

    Hoping for some demo ships hitting archers

  • @thanos7753
    @thanos7753 Жыл бұрын

    He beats Italians with the one unit that really shouldn't be beating Italians, poor guy.

  • @DanielC01000100
    @DanielC01000100 Жыл бұрын

    Your intro reminded me when i played water nomas on a low elo tourney last year. I had a blast. I love non-standard maps. I need to try this map

  • @unst3rblich399
    @unst3rblich399 Жыл бұрын

    I have been enjoying watching tour videos passively while working. Thanks for the great content and commentary.

  • @torqueblue
    @torqueblue Жыл бұрын

    Speaking of Not getting off the hook, Remember When T90 Made 3 Archery Ranges on a Neutral Island? Bet he didn't think we forget about that.

  • @CuddlingPenguin
    @CuddlingPenguin Жыл бұрын

    Ever thought about making a video every time the new map rotations come in to go over each of the new maps and metas?

  • @LounoirRecords
    @LounoirRecords Жыл бұрын

    i absolutely love the tropical setting and water/island stuff but actually playing it is horrendous and odd so many different routes you have to check and pathing you cant build on swamp but walk there, ships on "land" is weird, etc.

  • @Mennonful
    @Mennonful Жыл бұрын

    Oh my... These odd scenarios produce so much fun in your hands its incredible...

  • @UrielManX7
    @UrielManX7 Жыл бұрын

    The good thing about this map is that low ELO legends won't get gebaited researching heated shot.

  • @leviathan1832
    @leviathan1832 Жыл бұрын

    @T90Official the dock thing you mentioned that the war galley tech also upgrades your demos and fires messed me up as a returning player from the Age of Kings days. Back then, each ship had a separate tab under it to make the elite versions, but now all of them have been consolidated into a single tech that is confusing. It wasn't until I had played a bunch of games before I realized this was the case, and I thought fire ships were still fire ships by default (not the weaker fire *galleys*) for awhile too. I probably should have paid more attention but it's not the most clear thing to even returning players tbh

  • @Jordan-uy2nj
    @Jordan-uy2nj Жыл бұрын

    love your channel bro. thank you.

  • @iamignaz1153
    @iamignaz1153 Жыл бұрын

    39:30 - best moment

  • @zacharyjackson9008
    @zacharyjackson9008 Жыл бұрын

    In the original release of AoE2 demos and fires were castle age ships only

  • @OPiguy35
    @OPiguy35 Жыл бұрын

    Digging the multiple LEL videos to YT…:thank you!

  • @joevuch7981
    @joevuch7981 Жыл бұрын

    totally agree about fire ships being on the second page. for a few hours of gameplay I had no idea how to build them :|

  • @treepotato9273
    @treepotato9273 Жыл бұрын

    I tend to find the second page of the docks midway through a water game, swear profusely, remember it for a couple more games and then forget it as soon as I don't play a water map for a few days. Considering I only play a couple times a week at most, I don't often make demos or fires. I did know about the war galley upgrade applying to all the ships because I read the lil tooltip they put on it one time and remembered that but I usually just assume I'm playing a civ that doesn't get much navy.

  • @bubbajFool
    @bubbajFool Жыл бұрын

    I played and won my first online game last night and I’m pretty hyped. Fixing to try another one and see what happens.

  • @waylandertheslayer3259
    @waylandertheslayer3259 Жыл бұрын

    Didn’t realize there were 2 pages on the dock. Thanks T90

  • @campbellsmith9849
    @campbellsmith9849 Жыл бұрын

    T90 maybe those most common ships are on the second page because you'll likely use a keybind for those, whereas the specialty ships need to be easily accessible for mouse clicks.

  • @LoneWanderer727
    @LoneWanderer727 Жыл бұрын

    >Playing on a water map, as the Italians, with a bunch of docks, and have established water control..... "Who tf really needs water anyways? I hate boats."

  • @firemyst9064
    @firemyst9064 Жыл бұрын

    I was watching a lot of sotl videos and they talked about byzantine bonus fire galley firing speed. I assumed it was a byzantine special, Greek fire and all, but uh....there's that second page lol. It was probably my second or third water map I found the second page. Of course I mouse over all the icons to see what the dock could bring me. I did play 15 years ago but I never did a lot of navy action. Edit: to t90, I had the same question about watching matches from say the internet when I'm out and not at my pc. Or my phone, taking a lunch break. Thanks for answering!

  • @jorgeandrespalma2134
    @jorgeandrespalma2134 Жыл бұрын

    Red got literally every upgrade in the game except the important ones haha. Something tells me he got random'd italians and doesnt know that genovese exist.

  • @alexlloyd3850
    @alexlloyd3850 Жыл бұрын

    Blue could've also had some fun making kipchaks for the pikemen.

  • @beefstickswellington1203
    @beefstickswellington1203 Жыл бұрын

    As for movies, John Wick 4 was AMAZING. Best one of the 4.

  • @ronanwaring3408
    @ronanwaring3408 Жыл бұрын

    I wish they would do one upgade for imp ships too I like that they cut a lot of the expense of navy it still could do with being cut down a bit even futher (exept bombard)

  • @Hunoa44
    @Hunoa44 Жыл бұрын

    Blue is the legend of raids,he raided red economy,he raided his own economy and he raided his own game with quality T90 cast XD Truly a legend

  • @InsatiableMonkey
    @InsatiableMonkey Жыл бұрын

    As someone who is new to AoE2 I thought "Man, a lot of civs don't have fire ships..." Nope... Making pages was an interesting design decision...

  • @urazoe8240
    @urazoe8240 Жыл бұрын

    personaly i think if they would sort the ships by page in relevance to wether they are Eco or Army

  • @solorollo9756
    @solorollo9756 Жыл бұрын

    Stream casts ftw! I came for the game commentary and knowledge, but I stayed for the family

  • @13fisherman2007
    @13fisherman2007 Жыл бұрын

    T90 merch idea. Sweatshirt. On the front is a TC/mill and on the back is a villager on a farm

  • @soundsfest
    @soundsfest Жыл бұрын

    That was unbelievably frustrating from red.

  • @XTheLolX301
    @XTheLolX301 Жыл бұрын

    If only red had a special unit that is anti-cav

  • @WigglyWings

    @WigglyWings

    Жыл бұрын

    He didn't even need it. He had enough galleons at one point, if only they had bracer.

  • @hitaeroplane1999
    @hitaeroplane1999 Жыл бұрын

    Love this map!!

  • @Whistler112
    @Whistler112 Жыл бұрын

    If they just change the War Galleys tech name to perhaps War Ships, may make a little more sense. It's pretty easy once you know how it works though.

  • @jn1mrgn
    @jn1mrgn Жыл бұрын

    T90 thinks cannon galleons aren't a big deal.... lol.... they would completely dominate this map.

  • @plotius
    @plotius Жыл бұрын

    I haven't seen it myself but the new John wick and puss in boots is good

  • @tbsc5088
    @tbsc5088 Жыл бұрын

    Big love to T90official - reignited my love for AoE

  • @Caseyuptobat
    @Caseyuptobat Жыл бұрын

    In terms of new movies, t90, gotta go with Everything Everywhere All At Once

  • @FormaldehydeSon
    @FormaldehydeSon Жыл бұрын

    I don't even play ranked but I vote for the weird maps so I can watch them casted

  • @caseyb1346
    @caseyb1346 Жыл бұрын

    25:32 but reading is scary

  • @seraph2018
    @seraph2018 Жыл бұрын

    I very much dislike this map lol 11:20 I didn't know that. I thought it was just bad luck lol

  • @crchief3997
    @crchief3997 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I just thought there were no upgrades for fire ship

  • @eldenmox5525
    @eldenmox5525 Жыл бұрын

    Yea I made a comment on your last upload about how I couldn’t figure out how to upgrade my fire ships. I’m on Xbox and we have different menus. It’s just a wheel with no second page and it doesn’t tell you how to upgrade them. Someone responded and told me how and it says it in the tech tree but I had looked around but the way they have it setup on there is not intuitive at all.

  • @timhinchcliffe5913
    @timhinchcliffe5913 Жыл бұрын

    So this was basically an Arabia game as they ignored the water haha. Good fun.

  • @jamesmacphail36
    @jamesmacphail36 Жыл бұрын

    Thx t90

  • @purposeinpresence4494
    @purposeinpresence4494 Жыл бұрын

    I thought dock changes were going to be part of that huge new patch change.

  • @MotoManDan1
    @MotoManDan1 Жыл бұрын

    I voted this in. love it!

  • @luiz8755
    @luiz8755 Жыл бұрын

    I won a Bog match today lithuanians vs franks felt like a giant

  • @SNL92100
    @SNL92100 Жыл бұрын

    Eco dock, Navy dock. done.

  • @some_gh0st
    @some_gh0st Жыл бұрын

    I’ve seen some Xbox players curious about how they can get replays like players using capture age on PC so maybe that is where the question about viewing replays came from

  • @nafnaf0
    @nafnaf0 Жыл бұрын

    Malay are strong for Bog Islands, wondering what you think would be top 3

  • @SSEi02
    @SSEi02 Жыл бұрын

    I played AOE2 for years without realizing there is a second page on the dock... so many naval battles with no fire ships

  • @krystofcisar469

    @krystofcisar469

    Жыл бұрын

    They suck anyways :D Only good thing on them is 6 pierce armor. War galleys and demos are fun.

  • @blarch2
    @blarch2 Жыл бұрын

    Someone should make a T90 LEL song where it clips all of his usual talking points like straggler trees and mine placement.

  • @cleanerben9636
    @cleanerben9636 Жыл бұрын

    I still say the dock should be removed and replaced with two new buildings one for making civvie ships like fishing ships, trade cogs and transports and the other to make the military units

  • @connorwilliams3542
    @connorwilliams3542 Жыл бұрын

    I usually vote for a new map, because playing the same things can get tedious

  • @VonKrauzer
    @VonKrauzer Жыл бұрын

    Always sad to see Italians lose, because it's actually a really strong nation to play as, especially on water map, but it's always the player that cannot utilise them.

  • @paulpaul6961
    @paulpaul6961 Жыл бұрын

    thank you for another low elo video

  • @niccameron6517
    @niccameron6517 Жыл бұрын

    This damn map man...

  • @joelcarrizales2435
    @joelcarrizales2435 Жыл бұрын

    What are Aztecs supposed to do against paladin if not pikes? They don't get camels and their unique unit is trash. I guess if your apm is high enough you can go monks.

  • @phoenix3992
    @phoenix3992 Жыл бұрын

    Re: 30:45 Again! T90 mentions that NO ONE has seen all his videos. Bro.... 2019 & 2020 were isolate times for some people. SOME 'people' binged your content morning to night for months on end. Although some 'people' haven't gotten to all your T90 extras stuff, your main channel is completely watched.

  • @APolitically
    @APolitically Жыл бұрын

    Arabia and Four Lakes bore me...

  • @sincromelon2912
    @sincromelon2912 Жыл бұрын

    I'm newer to AOE2, do you guys play on the steam server?

  • @iamUglie

    @iamUglie

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, people play the Definitive Edition on Steam

  • @MLandriganReid
    @MLandriganReid Жыл бұрын

    Nothing like Low Elo Throwers

  • @edmis90
    @edmis90 Жыл бұрын

    what a meme map

  • @brycedrew3035
    @brycedrew3035 Жыл бұрын

    @T90 You should tell noobs to control group 6 of their villagers before they lure the boar. Problem solved.

  • @chissoku69
    @chissoku69 Жыл бұрын

    i personally find arabia, arena maps shit like that boring and prefer unique or full mega random tbh

  • @acej1454
    @acej1454 Жыл бұрын

    And where can I watch the stream?

  • @Demonhornz
    @Demonhornz Жыл бұрын

    Wow, you thought Glass Onion was good? Yeesh.

  • @BigShnarff
    @BigShnarff Жыл бұрын

    Red just had to use patrol and would have won easy, his army control is terrible

  • @rawiri8
    @rawiri8 Жыл бұрын

    Top Gun: Maverick

  • @daniloalves1139
    @daniloalves1139 Жыл бұрын

    I'm really sad that people focus on specifics maps and don't play such maps that are really awesome. Just play the fucking game y'all I always random, Lot's of random gameplay there. Yeah I never won a game also.

  • @AutomticHeart
    @AutomticHeart Жыл бұрын

    AoE2 - The Movie!

  • @acej1454
    @acej1454 Жыл бұрын

    Where can I submit clips? I just played a funny game

  • @mixadilla
    @mixadilla Жыл бұрын

    You content cured my aids syphilis

  • @MrHaVko1
    @MrHaVko1 Жыл бұрын

    There is like literally nothing happening for an hour. My games against hard AI are more exciting than this😅. Why those people never make army and fight xD

  • @skinnywhitemanx9842
    @skinnywhitemanx9842 Жыл бұрын

    Hey guys. Do you know how he finds these videos?

  • @koolerstream921
    @koolerstream921 Жыл бұрын

    avatar 2 was good

  • @indraallian6371
    @indraallian6371 Жыл бұрын

    OHHH WOW! Big secret reveal from T90. We have a map here with 80% water. I will in my great wisdom tell you what to make. You need to make SHIPS! And also you need to discover that huuge RED arrow on the docks build page. What ever could that ENORMOUS red arrow mean. Not even the great Uncle got it so then noooone ever could right??? Couse it is not blinking in many colours and have a flashing text saying CLICK HERE! That makes it super unintuative doesnt it? I have very little respect for the one map clowns. The beauties of this game are many, and one of the biggest in my oppinion is the variation it offers. Two games are never the same. Lets keep it that way. I dont want this game to turn into Starcraft where maps are all the same. And also big trees are beautiful and theres NOTHING wrong with them. 😎

  • @misseclipse7415
    @misseclipse7415 Жыл бұрын

    meow

  • @MeBarnson
    @MeBarnson Жыл бұрын

    all right I feel like I just watched 30 mins of T90 telling us that the docs need clarifications, taking over the whole cast. Meant as feedback not flame.

  • @LimpRichard
    @LimpRichard Жыл бұрын

    Dune was good

  • @SIGNOR-G
    @SIGNOR-G Жыл бұрын

    Im extremely confused on how an italian player lost agaisnt a cuman in a hybrid map.

  • @MadMatty01
    @MadMatty01 Жыл бұрын

    I don't play ranked but always vote for wonky maps just to throw a wrench

  • @krystofcisar469

    @krystofcisar469

    Жыл бұрын

    Thats why unrakned player shouldnt have any votes in any aspect of game :D

  • @MadMatty01

    @MadMatty01

    Жыл бұрын

    @@krystofcisar469 I see it as community service, as it makes for some quality content to watch 11

  • @charleysaiz
    @charleysaiz Жыл бұрын

    I voted for this, but always just to troll people! haha Can you imagine T90 casts being played at theaters? That'd be fun... Also T90 is very low elo when it comes to movies...dude has never seen Lord of the Rings

  • @Kangermu
    @Kangermu Жыл бұрын

    whats up with that one person recommending Emily In Paris S3? It's basically "Disaster Person Making Disaster Decisions but hey FASHION!"...what an awful show

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