He might be a pioneer in the hobby, cool! Every single cage was dirty and those poor turtles look so sad and pitiful.

@tipping_scales

4 ай бұрын

Not to mention the adult black throat monitor, an incredibly intelligent animal in a naked enclosure just twice his size🤢

Have replied to a few comments on here but I'll just add my take at large here. Keeping 2 and 3 foot snakes in a shoebox is unethical. Keeping a blackthroat monitor (an incredibly intelligent species) in a space only twice his size (in mass) with only substrate is unethical. Its like keeping a dog in a dog crate it's whole life. Keeping grown 100lb sulcatas with grown 20lb redfoots is unethical. Keeping adult retics in a 6ft enclosure is unethical. Pioneer from 30 years ago doesn't dismiss practices today. We have a few pioneers who got with the times like Barczyk and Crutchfield and recently McCurly is making some big strides in getting caught up. Bob is not. Not all old heads are stuck in their ways. Let's rep those instead

@DustinLikesJiujitsu

4 ай бұрын

Slow clap.... yup still no one asked for your input

@breezexotics

4 ай бұрын

Well said

@breezexotics

4 ай бұрын

​@@DustinLikesJiujitsuand no one asked for yours. Do you also keep animals in such questionable conditions that you feel attacked by these comments?

@DustinLikesJiujitsu

4 ай бұрын

@breezexotics 😆 no one's talking to you. Do you interrupt strangers conservation irl? No. Shhhh

@morgancollins9032

4 ай бұрын

Don't forget the mites...

seeing all these beautiful snakes in those small racks makes me wanna cry…

Great video, but that place is gross and depressing.

I'm in the OKC area and have been there 3 times for 3 of my most beloved Boas (2 amazing Leopards & a gorgeous Anery Jungle). Literally anyone who's been in the business this long has controversial things said about them. But I will (and have) defended Bob Clark (and Xavier!) and will always have their back. All 3 of my Boas from Bob Clark have been 100% healthy, strong and of excellent weight & temperament. They've answered emails and questions promptly and always offered to show me around. There's nothing "evil" or hidden about this man, he's a NICE guy who goes above & beyond and has beautiful animals. There's no way to please all people around the nation at all times. But how many people can say they've had had the same animal for *43 years*? From the bottom of my heart I thank Bob Clark for 3 of the most awesome Boas I've ever known ❤

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

I feel just like you. He does the best he can🎉🎉🎉

Being a pioneer in the hobby doesn't automatically make you a humane breeder. These poor animals are probably miserable in these small cages, no enrichment, hardly any space to move. The snakes can't even stretch out. As a professional breeder you should always be open to improving quality of care so your animals can thrive

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

Not sure about that. My snakes are kept in tubs, however if you watch my videos, I am constantly talking about the need to take them out of the tubs, on a schedule, if needed. My animals have to be clean first and have an enriching/physically active life. They get so much exercise that they are probably stronger than I am. I agree with the enrichment, even if I am exhausted from playing with them…they are my babies. I am all they have. Love your reptiles.❤❤🐍 thx for commenting.

@DRS17411

4 ай бұрын

For those that don't know, most snakes in the wild live in holes in the ground or are hiding in some kind of tight spot. That's how they feel comfortable. When in tubs they just need to be in a clean environment. Do your research before you talk.

@LetsTalkHerps

4 ай бұрын

@@DRS17411what other fun misconceptions from 1970 do you subscribe to? 😅

@tipping_scales

4 ай бұрын

@@DRS17411 you do realize snakes aren't subterranean animals right? Like they leave their hides obviously. Saying they feel safe in a hide doesn't mean essentially confining them to one makes any sense

@reptilefae

4 ай бұрын

You just showed how criminally outdated ​your OWN knowledge is lol. @@DRS17411

This is genuinely horrific husbandry for every single species, let alone the cohabitation. Disappointment

If only he didnt harass women or sell ibd positive abimals and try to threaten people into NDAS and lose the lawsuit ,😂

You have. To remember something about reticulated pythons. They don't all do well and big huge 8 foot cages. He could move some of those animals, but they may be won't do well. And I'm sure like the guy said. He went there the day after feeding. It's very hard to keep up everything. Clean, I'm sure Bob works very hard like he says. I own one Particulated python myself and it's never easy. Every day is a struggle, but we do it for the love of animals. Not everybody's facilities going to be perfect. But we have to do the best we can to keep up. I don't believe Bob Clarke would ever intentionally abuse his animals.

Thanks for this video. You and I disagree about husbandry and enrichment minimums, but I really love your excitement for these animals. Bob too! I have to agree with the comments made about the cages here as far too small. Bob has such an awesome facility and clearly works his a s s off to keep them fed and clean which is a monumental effort. If I could I would challenge Bob to rehome 25, 33, 50, or 75% of his collection and house those animals that remain in cages they can exercise and hide in. He can become one of the great champions for animal welfare (don’t confuse with “animal rights”). Thanks for sharing this video and thanks Bob for the tour.

Was anything in this facility actually clean? Filthy, abysmal, undersized enclosures and bins. Appalled anyone would feel comfortable showing this let alone promoting it. Don't care if you're an OG - this is not ok.

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

I visited for days after feeding. Usually snakes defeated around four to five days after feeding. Some had recently did so. There was no foul smells and the animals appeared to be healthy. Not sure how big of an enclosure one would have to have, in order for OTHERS to consider them large enough? I don’t know. I promoted the video because I wanted to show the world that there are long standing breeders, from almost 50 years ago. Things have changed today, for keeping reptiles. Maybe there is a middle ground to keeping them. Thx for commenting.

@breezexotics

4 ай бұрын

​@@sphericreptiles and I've visited multiple facilities after feedings that never once looked like this. I keep and breed reptiles as well, I have rack systems and understand how large operations work. It should not be a huge ask to have appropriately sized CLEAN enclosures as much as possible. From snakes that can't turn around in their tiny bins to a highly intelligent monitor living in the equivalent of a dog in a crate this just isn't right. Would you still be ok with it if they were dogs and cats laying in their own filth? Probably not. So why is the bar set so low for these reptiles? Defending this is defending poor animal welfare conditions and precisely why organizations seek to shut the hobby down.

RIP Bonnie! She was a pioneer in reptile expos.

@paulmcgregor7246

4 ай бұрын

Really did a lot for reptile enthusiasts. I probably would not have gotten into the hobby without the shows, back then.

nice tour.

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I first met Bob also at the elks lodge when he would take up that whole wall on the right when you would walk in and have followed and bought from him ever since. 15 years now and counting. I’ll be at his place March 14th on the way to Tinley.

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

That sounds great. We are trying to make Tinley this year, but he will be at the Dallas NARBC in April.

I remember those pricelists in the back of reptiles magazine. Tom crutchfield had a long list. I remember bob being in reptiles magazine with his big retic he had at the time.

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

Those were the days 😀😀😀

@colubridcollector8236

4 ай бұрын

@sphericreptiles they sure were. We didn't have anything in the 80's as far reptile care then reptiles magazine came out in 92. I subbed my junior yr of high-school in 93. I remember Bob having an article with his then largest captive retic. Also heard you say San Antonio. That's where I live now. Small world.

He's a great guy.......

What I am struck by is your kindness, respect and generosity of spirit in your tour of Mr Clark's facility. You set a fine example for everyone to follow. Please keep up the great attitude Paul.

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

Thank you. As a huge fan of reptiles, I appreciate the way he has always conducted himself, in person and through the mail, when I used to get price list. I bought a couple of animals from him a long time ago, so I just thought it made sense to buy another great animal. We need more linens and respect for those who have earned it.❤

I just cant imagine all the work involved with so many animals.....

@r1undertaker

Ай бұрын

I was there once after Bob invited me and was there for about three hours and he was working the entire time while we talked and showed me what he had time for and the place did not smell, it was quite clean actually so there are going to be days when it wont look perfect, i have purchased two retics from him, one prior to my visit and another one about a year later and both my animals were healthy and clean no problems whatsoever.

I got my first snake from Bob 25 years ago. A Cape York Spotted Python. Still keeping to this day :)

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

Amazing. Now that’s love🎉🎉🎉🐍🐍

After reading the comments and watching the full video. I tend to agree with both sides almost to the extreme basis. Those boa’s and other medium sized snakes are without a doubt, held in far too small of tubs. But I have absolutely zero issue with tubs/racks in general (as long as you maintain getting the snake out to move as often as you can). But yea those tubs are damn near for hatchling ball pythons housing sub adult/adult boas. Also, can certainly agree lack of enrichment (the big snakes at least), lack of hides are… not fun to see. BUT! To give an analogy (which I’m sure will be wayyyyy off!), if this was how a poultry or even most rodent breeders kept their animals, we’d be saying they were doing it pretty ethically. Its all a matter of perspective for everybody, and I imagine once you get to a collection of this size, obviously for business reasons, it’s hard to maintain that many animals to your new reptile “bio active terrarium” standards. In the end. Could he be doing better? Without a doubt. Could he be doing worse? Clearly. As long as the animals are healthy, anything other than that is subjective. (Love the videos sir!)

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

We could all do better, in all cases. Great comment.💯

Great video! Thanks for posting this.

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

Your welcome!!!🎉🎉🎉

I bought a boa constrictor an albino Colombian sharp from him about six years ago and I’m going to be breeding him this year with a Jungalow

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

See…that’s what I am talk long about🎉🎉🎉🐍🐍🐍

Legend ! I grew up in the late 80’s bob was THE name ! Bob kev and Brian B

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

Exactly. See you know what I am talking about!!!

Awesome animals! I can only wonder what his food bill is?

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

I did not show the freezer full of frozen feeders but it was a lot. Lots of mouths to feed. 💯

I still have my cages , same ones

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

Note, that is a rate thing. People don’t know how hard they were to buy, nor do they know the quality.

Excellent content brother........ I have been involved in every facet of the herp trade and world for over 40 years personally...... Importer ... Breeder ... wholesale .... retail......all of it..... I am now 52....... The culture sure has changed in the past 15 years especially ... BPs brought many outsiders to the Jeep trade solely for the profit..... I’ve seen Bob and bought snakes et al from him dang 30 years back ..... The good ol days...... I closed my retail shops out here in Los Angeles in 2017..... Couldn’t find the best employees as everyone seems to be out for themselves these days..... They don’t want to earn anything over time ... They do not see to value knowledge these days ... It’s too accessible I suppose..... Mos Def don’t want to put in any elbow grease.... Seeing this makes we want to get back into what I truly enjoy most .... Maybe .... Maybe.... Cool clip.... Respect .... One x

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

Thanks bro!! I feel the same way. Those that came before, or understand how it used to be need respect. You have had so many experiences, that others should listen. Sadly, now everyone seems to be an expert. I am not, but whenever I have a question I ask an OG!!! Thanks for the comment. 🎉🎉🎉

Definitely small world. When you live in Texas, which is about a fifth of the continental U.S., extremely small.😀😀😀

As always great video bro and awesome facility 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

@paulmcgregor7246

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. Gotta meet the legends.

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

Appreciate it!!

What a sad existence for those beautiful snakes. No enrichment, no hides, not enough space to even stretch out. It's the equivalent of a puppy mill. We can and should do better and hold people to higher standards. Sad, sad, sad.

@DustinLikesJiujitsu

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for voicing your concern when it wasn't asked for. Think you can do better? Prove it

@SarinTheNidoWarrior

4 ай бұрын

@@DustinLikesJiujitsu Thanks for replying when it wasn't asked for. First day on the internet or just like simping for Bob? 😂

@DustinLikesJiujitsu

4 ай бұрын

@@SarinTheNidoWarrior that's all you got? I expected more, fail

@SarinTheNidoWarrior

4 ай бұрын

@DustinLikesJiujitsu Oooh, witty. 🤣

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

I am just going by what I know, not trying to make him look good or bad. Everything can be improved. This just one visit.

Seeing these animals in tiny cages, a lot of them dirty, just makes me cry. This is what looks like when living creatures are seen as nothing more than a possession and the monetary value they produce. I've seen better puppy mills. :(

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

From these comments, I looked into what I saw there. Then I looked at my own animals and their care. You are right. My wife told me that I would have thought different if he was not in the game for so long.

Appalling.

People on social media talk alot of BS about Bob, he's a Pioneer that definitely doesn't get the respect he deserves on social media imo

@paulmcgregor7246

4 ай бұрын

I agree 100%. Back in the day, before almost everyone, Bob Clark, VPI, Kevin with Nerd, Barczyk , and a couple others were neck deep in the game. Going to his facility uplifted me. So much of the visit was not filmed. This is as much a part of Bob Clark as anyone else. Thx for commenting.😀🐍❤️

@tipping_scales

4 ай бұрын

Pioneer from 30 years ago doesn't dismiss practices today. We have a few pioneers who got with the times like Barczyk and Crutchfield and recently McCurly is making some big strides in getting caught up. Bob is not. Not all old heads are stuck in their ways. Let's rep those instead

@jessicafahey2531

4 ай бұрын

And look what the "pioneers" of America did 🤷

@DustinLikesJiujitsu

4 ай бұрын

@jessicafahey2531 idk what that means karen

GREAT VID BRO. SOME OF THESE COMMENTS ARE FUNNY AND MOST PROB NEVER KEPT RETICS IN THEIR LIFE. PUT THOSE RETICS IN A HUGE ENCLOSURE AND WATCH THEM STOP EATING AND BECOME DEFENSIVE. PUT TONS OF CLUTTER AND TELL ME HOW YOU KEEP IT CLEAN AND STERILE???? SOCIAL MEDIA GARBAGE TODAY. ALL THESE RULES AND STANDARDS TODAY THAT ARE TRASH

Bob has an awesome and clean facility and some amazing animals! Now I have to hit up your next video to see what you picked up!

Pretty damn disappointing. Holy shit.

Anyone that talks shit on Bob-social media or otherwise- obviously doesn’t know jack shit about the history of our hobby!

@serenalucey349

4 ай бұрын

It is definitely true that Bob was one of the very first to start mainstream captive bred breeding of many snake species, but it does not mean that he does right for his animals/customers in the present sadly.

@tipping_scales

4 ай бұрын

Pioneer from 30 years ago doesn't dismiss practices today. We have a few pioneers who got with the times like Barczyk and Crutchfield and recently McCurly is making some big strides in getting caught up. Bob is not. Not all old heads are stuck in their ways. Let's rep those instead

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

I have only had positive experiences with Bob Clark. As with anything, there are always instances where a store/supplier could do better. Human does not equal perfection, but we are all entitled to our person experiences. I did not get the idea that he was trying to cover up anything about the way he cares for cares for his animals. Not a social media guy, like Barczyk or others. I hope that everyone receives the treatment that I received from him over the years.

@tipping_scales

4 ай бұрын

​@@sphericreptileshe's not a social media guy, but neither is Crutchfield, and yet Bob is one of the last of the old dogs to upgrade anything. I mean really of all the things how could you walk by and film that black throat and not think... wtf dude? Eta: being proud of malpractice and not trying to hide it doesn't dismiss malpractice

@sphericreptiles

4 ай бұрын

This is true. This is why I watch everyone. I am from the old way. KZread videos are what showed me some new way to keep reptiles. If you see me do anything that you think I can do better, let me know. Pls