Man this guy is sharp. He should be engineering components to replace OEM.

The best video on YT for S50 Vanos. Absolute treasure trove of info. Mr Vanos is a legend!

Mr VANOS needs to read-up on the s50b30 vanos units as he is wrong. These were not 2 stage but continuedly variable. The 1st 2 stage vanos unit was on the M50TuB25. Strange how a "VANOS expert" would get his so wrong.... The S50B30 VANOS was the same as the intake side only of the S50B32. The USA spec 3.0 M3 had a S50US engine which is from the M50Tu family... Also its not running at 120bar but 150bar. 42:00 the holes in each primary of the headers are for a tool used to measure exhaust gases used to correct the idle mixture adaptations. Not a "clear leftover unused sensor hole from motorsport". You need BMW TIS for this process. Thanks for the video, looking forward to the next one!

@farturinn

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah,, bit of missinformation regarding the S50B30 unit. The Rolls Royce vanos unit is essentially the same on when it comes to the intake side when looking at the S50B30 and the S50B32. The exhaust side of the B30 is just an oil pump. I also would like to know if the intake side on the B32 moves 60deg and not 40+ like the B30 because the gears look the same. Later in the video he names the B32 the S52.. just to confuse things a bit more. Good video though

@DC_DC_DC_DC

2 жыл бұрын

I confirm this

This was a very dope video to watch. Ended up watched till the end and learned a lot ! Super interesting to see how bmw's vanos system has evolved over the years

@EvolveAutomotive

2 жыл бұрын

Welcome to what I’m sure will be an exclusive club of people who watched the entire thing 😅 Glad you found it interesting!

@fozpringle1

2 жыл бұрын

@@EvolveAutomotive challenge accepted

@craigvalentine1547

2 жыл бұрын

Watched the whole thing too. When's the second video due?

@sivz87

2 жыл бұрын

@@EvolveAutomotive Guys reviving an old thread... just a quick 1 , I was wondering what material is the m52 single vanos casing made out of as I broke the casing by messing around with the vanos solenoid so i need to know what material the vanos casing is made off so I can do some solid mending or the casing part thats broken off

Nice. Mr Vanos the number one place for your bmw straight 6.

@EvolveAutomotive

2 жыл бұрын

Such a great level of knowledge

this degree of knowledge and experience is hugely valuable on KZread....I hope you guys make more like this for its own sake

I've always had a vague idea how the vanos on my e46 worked but was a bit confused with oil pressure and solenoids and how pressure was used to change timing but the ECU did it. NOW I get it. Thanks Mr Vanos 👍

Brilliant, thoroughly enjoyed learning about the vanos system. Steve is the man, I will be getting my M3 done soon.

Awesome job Mr. Vanos!

Quality video, had my attention start to finish. Thanks for sharing your vast knowledge!

What a fantastic insight thanks for sharing! Steve overhauled my S54 earlier this year, highly recommended!!

Love these technical videos. Keep em coming.

What a truly knowledgeable guy. Without a doubt he's learned alot over the years. A well produced video which was super interesting.

very dope video, very well explained masterpiece engineeringfor the time, we cant forget that the more special the car the more attention it demands, nothing last forever, everything needs checking and improving, preventive maintenance is king when it comes to cars like this

Quality video for the mechanical minded people this is the kind of content I love to see 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Speaking on experience, Steve is well worth the wait for anyone wanting a VANOS repair/replacement 👍. He doesn't have to do a house or garage visit in his business but he likes doing it and loves Mpower engines as all the customers do and viewers looking at the video. S62 V8 and S50 straight 6's are the best over engineered Mpower engines in my view and recall he shared his fondness of them engines also. He has an E36 M3 GT2 himself and looking to do a nut and bolt restoration but considering his long waiting list and customer demand we may never get to see it done 😂 but to be fair, GT E36s are going up! Full credit to Evolve and Mr Vanos for doing the video because barely anybody goes into this much detail.

Great content and conversation.

This is why I love the n52 vanos system the only areas to fail are the solenoids which are 1x bolt at the front of engine and then the filter baskets on the side using 1x torx

professionally educational from Mr. VANOS, This is a great channel

Awesome video. Pleasure to learn something from the Man itself, Mr Vanos.

Really appreciate content like this

Epic video guys ! Love it

Made it to the end, actually quite informative.

Thanks for posting. Same engine in my M Coupé.

Brilliant as always ☕️

Fascinating, great vid guys.

Good work matt

Evolve this is mega content! more of this please!!!

Really really good video. Thank you 💪💪💪💪

Wow what a video. Dr Vanos fixed mine

Great video, very informative👍

Great video I would love to watch this project to the end and gain more information please post more thank you 👍🏼

@EvolveAutomotive

Жыл бұрын

Thanks - Another video is coming soon!

@q8hektor

Жыл бұрын

Cant wait to see it😁 i will do my timing procedure soon i really appreciate if you can show it in details done by professionals

@EvolveAutomotive

Жыл бұрын

@@q8hektor going to be honest engine assembly and timing are probably a ways off, much more needs to be done before that stage.

@q8hektor

Жыл бұрын

Best of luck

Something really satisfying about watching this

Cracking advice on the bearings you don’t need them don’t waste your money. Love people who do business like this put the client before making money

This video is gold

Brilliant video- totally straight up sincere good bloke 👍 Thoroughly enjoyed it :-) Does anyone know the BMW part number for the metal E46 S54 oil pump cover ring which Steve recommended using in place of the plastic E36 one which breaks and falls out?

Great video,, PLEASE DO THE S62 Dr!

It’s a good thing he talks about this as the gasket on the exhaust on my 3,2 is lightly leaking oil. Will have to investigate

Really enjoyed this video, watched it all the way through, this is someone that really knows his stuff 👍 One small suggestion though, try not to talk over him when he’s explaining something. A huge contrast to all the half-baked nonsense that Hoovie comes out with when he’s talking about BMWs on his channel, particularly the advice on maintenance, as he buys junk cars and then wonders why they’re not perfect.

@TS-qd2uj

2 жыл бұрын

You are so right about your small suggestion. I found myself wondering why he wasn't simply letting THE OBVIOUS EXPERT in the building explain things without interruptions. Otherwise, great video all the way to the end. As for the condition of the engine, somebody hasn't been doing regular oil changes for a while.

Do the oil pump hub tabs break on these like on the S54? The design is pretty much identical so I would think this would also be a problem here?

I was looking exactly for that knowledge but for the e46 m3 vanos but still great video

@EvolveAutomotive

2 жыл бұрын

We have 2 S54 engines cars, maybe we’ll do another, perhaps a little shorter 😅

@cookiespamintel4607

2 жыл бұрын

@@EvolveAutomotive thats what a love to hear the s54 is a masterpiece first thing I plan to do once I buy mine for my channel Its to buy your airbox brings the engine to life and joy to the ears 🙏🏾

Hmm.. I was under the impression that the S50B30 had constantly variable vanos, just on the intake compared to the intake/exhaust on the B32. At least I am able to control it constantly variable within 40 degrees of movement using VEMS ECU The intro is a bit confusing, the single stage VANOS was not used on the S50Bxx, but rather the M50 series. The Vanos on the McLaren is constantly variable on the intake.

Awesome

Guys reviving an old thread... just a quick 1 , I was wondering what material is the m52 single vanos casing made out of as I broke the casing by messing around with the vanos solenoid so i need to know what material the vanos casing is made off so I can do some solid mending or the casing part thats broken off

I'm curious... what's the part number for the metal oil pump retaining disk? Mines worn, big yuck haha

in an SMG E46 M3, how would you know when its time to replace the vanos?

I’ve been very fortunate as I’ve had no issues on my S54 that I’ve had for 8 yrs and an S85 for 4 yrs and S63 for 2 yrs but I’ve herd others had nightmares . I’ve move on to Porsche with there VarioCam Plus .

@m3nine11

2 жыл бұрын

No you haven’t, that’s very normal. Vanos units do fail however failure rate is not as common as the internet makes it out to be.

HI Guys where can i find a vanos seal kit in the net? I am all the way in South Africa and i have a S52 which is in need of a service on the dual vanos

P.S. mine was produced in march 1998 and my unit had that thin retainer clip on it. So I doubt it's production related and just whatever unit was taken off the shelf when the engine was built. I'm not 100% sure, but I recall my unit having no washer ring at all fitted anymore.

I believe that its the best explication of vanos that exist in youtube,don't speak english and its difficult understanding sometimes,but I believe that its clear in my mind,later its other thing when have in front the vanos in the table,but I can test. Definitely goes to repair the solenoid and change the gaskets and putting upgrades. Its possible but titanium bolts for replace the tapes? The part of oil-pump,that was looks a holes covered,what's realize? Change oil pump or drill orifices? I want looks the next process,for me fuck Netflix this its better oh yess!! Thank you so much for your time,patience and dedication for explain all process.

Bluepoint Technician socket set… awesome, great quality and coverage. Edited due to auto correct 🤦‍♂️

proper bloke

mr vanos is a boss. Where is the followup video?

18.08 is what happend to me yesterday..the bolt got loosed and my oil just spruts all over the engine..after we checked and open the cover on the solenoid cover, one of solenoid tip got stripped off.. We changed the two seals n tried repaired the tip just to let the o rings sits..n use new bolts on the cover..but then after we start no more oil coming out but then i think we advanced the timing...how to solve this ??

Quality video. A couple of questions if you see this. Are the chains the same on other engines? And the constant pressure valves. Are they worth changing? Currently dropping an s50b30 in my E30.

@EvolveAutomotive

2 жыл бұрын

According to RealOEM the timing chain is shared with other M engines such as S14 and S38. The CPV on the side of the block is worth changing, or rather the seal is for a vitron one. Very difficult/impossible to do with exhaust manifold installed.

@craigvalentine1547

2 жыл бұрын

@@EvolveAutomotive thanks for the swift reply. Luckily ATM my manifolds are off as I'm getting the s50 ones modified to suit the E30. I'll get it done asap. Will price up a chain. Done my rod bearings just. I do have a lumpy idle so if it's not an electronic issue I'll be ringing Mr vanos for a quote as it could be vanos. Thanks

I have experienced total disintegration of the unit and noticed the much bigger circlip on the later replacement units made by Sachs vs the original Roll Royce units. But I doubt the plastic washer plays a part here. I mean, it just sits loosly on top the needle bearing and sure itsn't going to hold in the bearing(race). That must be that circlip. I recall my replacement unit not having a washer on top at all and it's been 7 years since I fitted it.

Could the metal washer be from an E39 M5 unit? The washer isn't listed in the E46 M3 parts diagrams, unless it's not where you'd expect it. It is listed for the E39 M5 unit. Also I would and have always taken off the gauze filters on the solenoid. These always break down and clog up the oil passages.

@darrenliddle7820

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

🙌

Lots of great content here, but i can't help but feel like Mr Vanos could have elaborated more if he hadn't been cut off so often. Learn to listen and perhaps wait until the end to ask your own questions.

@EvolveAutomotive

2 жыл бұрын

Noted, I’m certainly no interviewer!

I’d like to see the same thing for an s54

Great video, loved it. Interested in the comments about using the engine oil pump from the s54 engine. Interesting about the part numbers changed any time due to upgrade.

@EvolveAutomotive

2 жыл бұрын

From memory Steve was saying that BMW list them as the same part number, so you’re not using one from an S54 as such, just that it is shared with an S54.

When are we getting an update on this project!

@EvolveAutomotive

Жыл бұрын

One day 🥲💔

The Vanos unit failed on my 330Ci Coupe. Luckily a friend of mine who was a qualified BMW mechanic repaired it for me. Not a cheap repair at all and lost my faith in the car 😢

great video for nowadays 🤌🏻 i follow mr vanos works, could u advise which seal brand he uses? beisan kit?

@EvolveAutomotive

2 жыл бұрын

Would need to ask him but believe everything is his own.

@altunmammedli964

2 жыл бұрын

@@EvolveAutomotive tnx🙏🏻 awaiting for Touring Evo🤟🏻

Is there another part?

@EvolveAutomotive

Жыл бұрын

There will be one day...

When's the next episode coming?

@EvolveAutomotive

2 жыл бұрын

When I find time to work on the project again, next step needs some relatively warm (10c) weather so just waiting on that really.

BMW technical doc on their Vanos unit, write the unit operating at 100 bar.

А где продолжение!?)

Mr Vanos website is in a sad state: "we can't find products matching the selection"

120 bar ? I doubt 😉 M

No wonder these Vanos units play up or fail. Just look at the colour of the oil and the amount of sludge tells me the cars they were on were neglected and the oil change intervals was way too long. Oil should be done every 5000 Kays. Forget the stupid service indicator or factory service intervals, they will destroy your engine.

3:20😏

This video is going to drive up the price of E36 ///M3's. :-))

More like THANOS for your engine…

I dare evolve to free vale swap it

@EvolveAutomotive

2 жыл бұрын

I think you may slightly over-estimate the budget of this project 😅

@lighteningbolt6397

2 жыл бұрын

@@EvolveAutomotive a man did it to miata with not to much of a high cost but I agree the actually head from freevale will cost a lot

The stupid musical interludes are seriously not necessary here. Please don't put music in this kind of video as it becomes way too loud all of a sudden and i'm trying to watch this video early in the morning while my family are sleeping and each time I have to turn the volume down or up. Seriously frustrating stuff. I still gave you a thumbs up, don't worry.

The ultimate driving machine that can't get (vtec) correct lol

how did u get that moody bastard to give up some time to make a video lmao.

@EvolveAutomotive

2 жыл бұрын

He was apprehensive at first but we convinced him 😅

@kendogg_uk8040

2 жыл бұрын

@@EvolveAutomotive was hard enough to get him to do my vanos for an s54... wouldnt think he was getting a month's wage for a couple hours work 😆

24th liker and 3rd comment 😉😎

What happened to this series? 🤷🏻‍♂️

@EvolveAutomotive

2 жыл бұрын

Matt is doing this in his spare time and with own money, so progress has been slow at times. It’s still continuing and there will be more videos! At some point 😅

Plastic washers holding in bearings, BMW "engineering" at it's finest 🥲

Overly complicated engineering solutions… equals regular failure and expertise at stripping them down 👍

It fails because its a BMW

i dunno man!?, it doesnt really seem like he knows what hes talking about!?....like hes trying to blag it!?....no?!

@EvolveAutomotive

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, for 50 minutes he blags a subject that he has spent 14 years on, whilst disassembling everything.

@MrVocalist101

2 жыл бұрын

@@EvolveAutomotive haha sorry mate i was being sarcastic!?, man definitely knows his way around a vanos!! lol

@EvolveAutomotive

2 жыл бұрын

Sarcasm can be quite hard to get across unfortunately 😅

@MrVocalist101

2 жыл бұрын

@@EvolveAutomotive haha yeah for sure! lol. great video by the way, as an e36 lover i found it hugely interesting! 👍

Yeah, I'm glad I did this job when I did my swap. Picked up a Dr. Vanos single unit for $180. . . that same unit is $375 these days. . . .