My 2012 GT version is just incredible! I’ve been on two wheels on the road and track since 1967, still have it with my 2006 Blackhawk 240 with 103B screaming eagle, and my 2020 Panigale V4s which also absolutely incredible ! It’s so darn difficult to decide which flavor I feel for the day.

Had a 2016 k1600gtl exclusive, sold it last year.Yep, getting ready to welcome into my life this 2022 model by end of this year

I love the styling, the way they frame the engine- "check this out...". BMW has come a long way since my Airhead days when guys told me it was an old man's bike.

@mrh0wler353

Ай бұрын

Hey! I resemble that remark!

You are correct about the attractions of the bike. The compelling sound track especially!

I have ridden my GTL for a long while and am awaiting my new 2022 that I have on order. I so agree with everything you say. I couldn't agree more about how capable and how it feels like a much smaller bike.

Test video and extra detailed video are excellent. Thanks. In terms of the K1600, it is without doubt a truly amazing bike. I'm already on my second K1600 GTLE and I'm waiting for the next iteration which will, hopefully, have a properly integrated dashboard and Adaptive Cruise Control. 👍

Ah, Mat, I do love your reviews, presentation style and wit. This has to be one of your best reviews imo and you have left me seriously wondering how I could fit this monster into my garage. Well done, sir!

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

😊 Thanks

@br540i6

2 жыл бұрын

L hmmm

@thombauer1721

2 жыл бұрын

Host a yard sale and make some room. You won't regret it.

@moconnor50

Жыл бұрын

Great review and I love my K 1600 GTL equally as much. I do not find it too large. It is by most standards but under way it feels so maneuverable that I forget its nearly 800 lbs.

Another pro assessment.Thanks.

Awesome review. You know that when you laugh like that you are having fun!

Love your review. Always wanted a K1600, but still can't justify the move away from my 2010 K1300GT. Maybe one day!

Great review Mat, as always! 👏🏻 Super smooth indeed, really a LOT of bike for the money, it's a work of art 👊🏻👍🏻

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thx Frans

A 140 mph is fast enough especially fully loaded. Nice and smooth.

Fantastic review!

A fine review. I have a 2019 and I absolutely love it. The engine sings a Siren song, once it passes 5500 rpm. I love twisting the throttle back to the stop and climbing through the gears without the clutch...works every time for me.

what a great review thank you

Great stuff Mat! I've always wished BMW would create some sort of hyper naked bike with that engine! Would still be heavy but without the fairings could be lots of fun! Can you have a word with the beemer brass please Mat 😃

That's some quality production.

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

I'll thank my wife more than usual.

U have a way with words my friend. What a gift

What a great review, you make me want to run out a buy one..

A big scooter is a pretty accurate description, I ride a 2016 GT and it is amazing

TFT looks like a last minute thought then you need the BMW app for the GPS to work and it isn't free then it takes ages to connect

But, this bike can be such a money pit if it's out of warranty. Even the 600 mile service is close to $1000 dollars. and when it's time to adjust those 24 valves, the service will well be over $1000. This bike also has a History of electrical Gremlins where just the removal of the body works to get to parts will just up the cost of service. A brilliant Bike yes, but a Pain in the Ass Money pit.And that TFT is just asking to be ripped out and stolen the second you walk into the pub for a stout.

Side note what is the model of the alpinestar jacket your wearing?, great review again as always Cheers to you.

Awesome bike. Good review! Tks

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

1250gsa going back to shop for a swap for the gt. Great video

I went through the build-me-one menu and with a lot of extras it comes to R377 000.00. Now all I need is... R377 000.00. Great video. Probably the best one I've seen on the 2022 GTL..

@zunaidkajee4540

2 жыл бұрын

I wad also wondering where Matt got his price from. The wing is just over 500k. I ordered a fully loaded GT sport with every option (including the top box and akro pipes) and it came to 390k.....

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

@@zunaidkajee4540 I went from the european (French) prices where the most basic GTL is just shy of 30,000 euros (R496,000 at current exchange rates). There's a lot of extras on the one I rode as well...

Used one in Tasmania borrowed from a mate, was brilliant to be honest

Top heavy....... great motor and tech...

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

Would be hard to be not at least a bit top heavy with an armchair and a suitcase up there somewhere near head height. Most of that is gone though, once you get the beast moving.

love your motorcycle

Great review Matt

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

😊

Thanks for a great test report. Don't think I will not upgrade my 2013 Gtl. Regarding your review I have 2 comments.The seating position for me 1,92m is fine and apart from shifting my feet around on the pegs I quite comfortably ride Plettenberg to Cape Town ( 550km).Yes it's tough living with this bike in the Garden route. Then I don't need a quickshifter, once moving and in 6th gear the flat torgue curve turns it into an "automatic" even 2 up plus luggage.

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think a host of broken bones means I'm probably not the best person to talk of comfort. Glad it works for you. As I also mentioned in my test, once it's rolling, even at low speeds, it feels no more intimidating than a maxi-scooter.

@maxflight777

2 жыл бұрын

I hope you stop to fill the panniers with pies from the Pereguine shop at the top of Sir Lowry’s pass !

The bike is stupid fast. Test ride one for yourself and you will see. Problem is finding good roads for it. It was built for the Autobahn.

Yah, as a bonus, you'll surely give everyone riding a gold wing a never ending case of envy! First thing I'd do is to have that motor bren tuned and then install a titanium aftermarket exhaust

I have been an ardent motorcyclist and sailor for decades. Riding one of these bikes is like buying a sailboat with a 7 1/2 foot draft when you live on the Chesapeake Bay. You cannot ride it everywhere. And I’m not talking about off track. I’m talking about just pulling into some gas stations. I’m talking about driveways. I’m talking about gravel parking lots. The other thing I think about is the cost of just dropping it at 0 miles Per hour. That’s when most bikes hit the ground anyway. I imagine it could cost many hundreds of dollars it’s not up to $1000 just if it falls over if you want to replace everything that gets scratched because everything does get scratched because it’s all plastic. So I just admire sailboats with deep keels and high bikes like this at shows

That’s a great bike

One doesent feel warm and fuzzy when the price becomes clear to you.

Wow good

Cool bike…but the video is more impressive, well done 👍🏻

pros and cons vs goldwing?

Wow !!!

This machine is wonderful, as long as they run right! I had 2 k’s, 16 GTLE and Grand America. Be worn, at least in the USA, these engines are so complicated and so sensitive to problems as you rack miles on them that it can cost heavy. Very hard to work on, as well. Dealers in the USA are winding down. You have to have one close by. Never buy one without BMW coverage!!!!! I am 6’4” and I had a hard time riding for a long trips. Knees and lower back was getting sores. The recall on the reverse clutch and 6th gear got me so mad. I honestly, had enough!!!! It is not for me. I just want to ride and ride and not worry about dealers and down time. BMW lost me!!!!!

@roadglide

2 жыл бұрын

The Gold Wing ticks off many boxes. Honda engineering, reliability and good looks.

@donalddietrich9442

Жыл бұрын

Mines been great! Best bike I’ve ever had. Little weeping oil off valve cover gasket but that’s about it. 55k

@alp3781

Жыл бұрын

@@donalddietrich9442 Don, well, enjoy the bike and don't keep it for too long with this kind of miles. Consider yourself lucky. I wish not to have had so many issues.

@alp3781

Жыл бұрын

@@donalddietrich9442 After selling the Grand America, I ordered a new Goldwing DCT Tour. Unbelievable machine, so far. I can't even explain you. Zerooooooo issues at 15K, so far. Superb machine.

@donalddietrich9442

Жыл бұрын

I’ll check back in when I hit 100k! Hondas are dangerous they bore their riders to death!

Hi, please could you tell me, if you don’t mind, how tall you are? I’m concerned with the low seat height and pegs. I’m 6ft (183cm) and I’m afraid it’ll be sore riding with my legs cramped up. I know they do a 780mm “high seat” but I still think that may be too low. I know the GT is 810/830mm, but are the only differences the top box? I’m recovering from major surgery right now, so test riding isn’t an option until the end of September. Thanks in anticipation.

I like how you talk about this motorcycle. I don't know if you are the same person witch make the Fast Bike Show. I liked thos movies also. My compliments for your posts.

Great review have always liked this bike but one thing really annoys me why don't manufacturers fit a electric centre stand on bikes of this size, I have a K 1200 LT with the electric centre stand and will never sell it because of this one feature I'm quite small and pushing 70 but it makes my ride so much better one touch of the button and she is up.

@vanceforrest4085

Жыл бұрын

You’re a better man than me 👍🏻 Thought I bought my ultimate touring bike (same as you) loaded it with everything and couldn’t ride it more than an hour. That riding position foot behind the knee and no way to stretch them out had me sell mine after a year. Same with this 1600 but it would be fun to ride it for that hour. My patella tendons aren’t made to stretch like that. A touring bike is meant to ridden all day, ended up with (still have) Victory Vision Tour Premium with my feet out in front of my knees on 14 inch floor boards.

Bike show, This vs the RT?? I'm 6'2 250..

No CarPlay is a bummer. I saw a K1600 for sale at a really low price used; Turns out the front ends lower ball joint had gone bad, and needed replacing. Very, very expensive.

Mat. This bike or the Gold Wing?

Nice video, also a nice bike but too top heavy, too windy for a passanger and no nav without a smartphone. Therfore is the goldwing my prefered bike

We love seeing speedos in mph here in the states. Amazing that guys can get 200mph with about $10k thrown into their modern litre sport bikes. The bmw s or m1000 seem to be the flavor of the week.

@maxflight777

2 жыл бұрын

The mph/kph is selectable ….easily adjusted

Hi handsome . What a emotional video . Great job BMW

Can you switch the speedometer to MPH? I would think that would be easy.

@stefstef8031

Жыл бұрын

No probs it's intended settings

I rode for a week with one these beast in our group and was impressed with the bike rider, especially in the curvy bits. Too big for me to push around the garage nowadays. Perhaps too much bike for most uses for the general public.

I am fortunate enough to own a 2016 model, I concur.

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

Fortune, You obviously have one! Jealous? Oh yes.

This guy had a BMW car, 5 series. He said he was told to sell it before 60,000 miles 'Or it will break your heart.' And that sums up BMW these days. Had a R60/5 for 45 years and I spent more time fixing it than riding it. Gonna get a Goldwing next.

Something like this followed me through the twisty narrow up and downy ,wonderful roads of the Shropshire in the UK. Left it for dead on a Guzzi V7 . Not for me.

@ryananderson6321

Жыл бұрын

might have something to do with the rider(s). I feel like a k1600 would smoke a v7 if the riders were equal

@billycaspersghost7528

Жыл бұрын

@@ryananderson6321 Would have everything to do with the riders and the roads. Some of the roads there will soon trip up a big lump like that Beemer.

@4940markhutchins

Жыл бұрын

So what? They are different types of bikes. An S1000 RR would leave you and your Guzzi for dead.

Was wondering how old are you? Definitely encouraging!

Scratch that question, Matt, I found part 2!

Nice review Mat….just wondering if you need a second mortgage on your home to keep this bike properly maintained? I hear too many horror stories…can’t help but think that ownership of this bike can be a recipe for disaster.

Could it be that the 1600 is slower than the 1250 ? If I remember correctly, I had the 1250 RT at 240 quite quickly on a test drive. Must be some artificial limitation, with that power it should be more like 260 ... Doesn't matter anyway, as I crave for a Goldwing, which is limited at 180 - which even when it is allowed is not that much fun for a longer time.

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I should have been more clear. There's an electronic speed limiter, I remember having the GT show over 260km/h. I don't mind that limiter though, given the size and the wind (I had a slight crosswind during the highway stint) it did make my Varese pucker just a bit.

@stevecade857

2 жыл бұрын

Did you have the cavernous topbox with extra back support, panniers and a raised screen? 228 kph is not a touring speed for me thanks but cruising the autobahns at 160+ kph is so easy on the K1600. On the R1250RT it just feels a little more strained - probably just the more vibby engine.

Great review, good bye Harley, hello BMW

GT is way faster. 🥶🤣👌

:) Got a K1300S from 2012, top speed is a lot more than that.

How does it compare to a Goldwing ?

@clarencecheney7256

Жыл бұрын

Did Honda discontinue the holding ?

No radar cruise. What a shame!

👍

This is a beautiful beast but it's too heavy and two inches too tall for me. I'm a 5'10 82kg male. I had to go for the R1250GSA because the K is made for 6-footers.

For me the contradiction is this: the engine is far too inviting to not trash it (as do, for me, all 2+ cylinders engines), and that is the hallmark of a fun, B-road, Sunday or commuting bike. Touring doesn't mean slow, but you can't spend 10 hours per day either thrashing a crime-inducing motor or getting frustrated you're restraining yourself. That's why I went for the RT: still very fast when I want to, but it doesn't egg me on constantly when I am in a chill mood.

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I can see the logic. And truth be told, much as the K16 makes me chortle like a naughty school kid every time I ride it, if I was buying a big tourer for myself I would also go the RT route. An engine that is more effective in most real world riding scenarios, an overall package that is easier to use (sensibly and like an escaped racer) and more affordable, too. I'm very grateful my job allows me to get excited about so many bikes, but that doesn't mean that on a personal level they would necessarily find a place in my garage. But by the same token, if someone buys one, I wouldn't have a bad thing to say about their decision. We're all different...

@suezix8689

2 жыл бұрын

@@IgnitionBikeShow Oh don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed my afternoon on the K16 too, but looks like we're kindred garage spirits.

Maybe good for Interstates and Autobahns.....it was smooth but a bump in a corner, actually a corner was anathema to this "long distance" cruiser ! Totally unsettled me so that I was not interested in a further ride on this truck !

The KTM screens are not comparable. “ *KTM my ride” app and phone software is utter shite* BMW Dominate.

I know what I like...

Lots of transmition problems, and revers 1600B,, and serves are super, super expensive

⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

This BMW 1600 vs THE GOLD WING who wins??

For me, at that price, its a miata everytime

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

I can understand that, but such a b'stard to thread between lines of traffic (there again, so is the K16 GTL!).

Same speed than 1250rt, but more expensive.

I've had a K1600 GTLE since inception, the bike has covered 40,000 miles. The engine is wonderful BUT it's had 3 new engines in its life, never did findout why

@vivejk4443

2 жыл бұрын

3 new engines? thats nuts

@m.f.m.67

Жыл бұрын

@@vivejk4443 That's BMW!

Overly complex German engineering which will require a much better dealer network than I have access to ,not to mention the cost of that service....no thanks.

I find those tft ipad esque screens, awful to look at. The weakest link of the bike for me… thus my rush to get last years proper dashboard version. Also, many don’t know, the screens are a lot cheaper to make than analogue clocks…

@theopapathanasiou1261

2 жыл бұрын

Super review otherwise!

I still love my Yamaha FJR1300 but the 2022 BMW K1600B has convinced me... Note that the FJR1300 has a much sportier engine than the K1600, which makes the K1600 the better option to avoid speeding tickets 😏. But that is to be expected as the FJR1300 is a SPORTS TOURER while the K1600 is just a TOURER.

The K 1600 would not be any good to me. Just too big & heavy.

Extra mile bullshit. Where is the adaptive cruise control?

@m.f.m.67

Жыл бұрын

Why, it's on the new Goldwing, er wait...nevermind!

....and please don't get me onto the portmanteau word action stuff. No place in bike reviews IMO, unlike abbreviations, (sic) like BMW & KTM = Expensive, but not necessarily reliable.

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, portmanteau words have been a thing for like, ever, dude. The Sunday Times even let me use them, though you will no doubt find that to be the epitome of the decline of society and a sign of the impending demise of the world. Arse. Double-arse even, I'm a biker, and I present for bikers - those with and without an obsession over the 'proper' use of the English (South African) language. Concentrate on the content, the meaning, the passion, the bike. And as I said below, chill the ???? out and stop posting to make yourself feel big and clever. Which the second part of the post isn't, by the way, I can't make head nor tail of it.

@cliveomahoney4096

2 жыл бұрын

Urggggghhhh! Twat alert! Beep, beep!

@cliveomahoney4096

2 жыл бұрын

@@IgnitionBikeShow Abject and unconditional apologies. I love your show and the content. No grounds for me to cause any offence whatever. I just hate guesstimate as a word. My fault. As thou were. I am banning myself for 2 weeks as a punishment. I deserve it thoroughly. You chaps are the greatest.

P

Guesstimate is a tortology, of dubious US derivation (maybe Canada). Please, as a professional journo don't use such words. At least cremains has some additional info.

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

Clive, chill the f"$k out man! Modern slang I prefer to think of it as, a conscious softening of the edges of formal language, a modernising if you will - something that will no doubt tie your tits in a twisting knot, but the evolution of language is a thing, and it appears I am a part of it. Undoubtedly tautological, though I have no problem with your "a tortology."

Yea how comfortable is it riding with your feet behind your knees on pegs, I don’t think so.

The bike has had very little changes over the past 10 years except for the electronic gimmicks…..still has the same God awful wind wobble at higher speeds , clunky gearbox…and inadequate cooling system….What was Momma BMWs answer to the near death wobble at speed???? Let’s cheap out and install a speed limiter instead of redesigning the fairings or rear top box.. all that for $30k US

@m.f.m.67

Жыл бұрын

He was doing a 140 mph on the autobahn. No wobble, nor did he say it was anything other than stable. Now the K1600GA or B...that's another whole matter!

141mph. Not that impressive really. My FZ750 from 1988 could do that. I'd expect a modern bike with an engine twice the size would be a touch faster.

@IgnitionBikeShow

2 жыл бұрын

Horses for courses Nick, your FZ was a cutting edge sport bike when it came out, this is a small apartment on wheels. The more sporting version of this tourer with the same ingredients, minus the armchair is easily able to sail past 260km/h. This model has had its speed limited electronically so as to prevent morons like me trying to go any faster. The Goldwing by comparison is restricted to about 200km/h if memory serves, so in terms of furniture shops with wheels, the GTL still easily the fastest.

@cemilcelik1844

Жыл бұрын

Goldwing limit is 172 km/h

The maintenance costs of this bike are totally ridiculous that's why I will never buy one such a shame its a stunning bike and seen lots of great reviews

Ride a bike in jeans??????