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@dcxplant

Жыл бұрын

No CarPlay/Android Auto, speed limited, wonky stability.. holy cow..... I test road the GT and loved it, but the rider is trapped in the riders triangle. I need to be able to move my knees around. I was hoping the Grand America with floorboards would be the ticket... but with the stability... no way. I'll continue to look for aftermarket solutions before being the GT, but I don't like having my legs splayed out at a huge angle so now I'm a little bummed such a cool bike won't fit my needs.

@drissamara5513

18 күн бұрын

Je viens juste d achter une BMW K 1600

I’m a GS guy, but somehow my life is better knowing this bike exists!

@kevincraig8257

Жыл бұрын

Im like you just knowing that if you ever want to pull the trigger on one its there but for how long the way things are going Ihave several bikes one ADV and a RG but Im always thinking about that GTL

@talltimbot

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it is newer and more refined than my ancient CBX

@EssexCountyPhoto

Жыл бұрын

Same here, been riding GS/A for over 15 years, but this one is really tempting... Would make the wife much happier too... 😂

@jr.6199

11 ай бұрын

The RT seems a better lux tourer and has the radar. That is what I see as my future rolling sofa.

@michaeldobson8859

4 ай бұрын

What did Ivan say in Iron Man: “Dont get so attached to things, learn to let go”. Adopt new old ideas, be flexible. Hahahahaha

Spent 4 days on a Grand America and it was an unforgettable experience. That motor and the sound it makes is sublime. I am not inclined to sell my RT just yet, but WOW. Just WOW! Great bike. Great BIG bike.

@jeffreyscott4564

Жыл бұрын

I know what you mean,, I loved my RT. That is until I spent real time on the GTL. The RT is a phenominal machine,, and maybe someday I'll go back. But for now, I'm enjoying the 1600

@felixlechat1780

2 ай бұрын

The K1600GTL have more luggage space than GA chopped in half

I was waiting so much for this review, I was in the alps and everyone I met on this bike said the engine was out of this world (so good)

I 100% agree with your assessment of the technology, in particular the phone compartment and the BMW app. I lusted after a K1600GT for years, and decided to wait until the 2022 model in order to get the TFT. Took delivery of an all black K1600GT in May, put 600 miles on it, and gave it back to the dealer. That phone compartment, and connectivity issues, paired with the jinky app were so frustrating that every ride I wound up a little bit more disappointed. Just bought a 2019 K1600GT and I am thrilled. Great review, very insightful and it is clear that you spent significant time on the bike - everything you pointed out is spot on.

Thank you for the VERY VERY honest review. I get so tired of other reviewers that just sing praises of how wonderful everything is...as if they're trying to write some flowery novel. Keep these coming!

That was the most honest review I ever watched. I had a gold wind, made me a bobble head, the wind buffeting of my head I could just never solve, it also had a weird shimmy at about 65mph, the BMW K1200LT is the most confidence inspiring motorycle ride I ever had, the brakes are very touchy, they stop you in a heart bueat....I miss the goldwings low center of cravity and its better analog gages vs the high tech bs of BMW, but after a three hour ride, my butt was less sore on the Triumph Trouphy, the the goldwind, and finally the bmw....take that to the bank.

Oh this is adventure touring and touring motorcycle indepth review HEAVEN 😍❤️ Thanks for doing all this Ian 🥺❤️

Thanks Ian for the honest reporting of the stability issue!!

Excellent review! Answered so many questions I had. Never heard of the stability till now.

My friend owns a K1600GTL and I've ridden it. Your review was spot on.

Hi Ian, Thanks for another great review. That 1600 GT is definitely a dream bike, but the use ability of the Goldwing is comfort and confidence personified! Both incredible machines! Thanks for your honest and thorough review, I really, really appreciate it. Keep up the great work! Gratefully and Kindly, Dennis

Very accurate review (2016 GTL owner). Fell in love with the K1600 riding it for the 1st time during our 2-up tour through the Pyrenees-Spain and France. All those 180+ degree switchback climbs had me a bit worried, but the bike simply crushed it and was extremely confidence inspiring. It pulled in every gear. I did get leg cramps from time to time and some stopngo traffic felt heavy and sometimes fearful or dropping it during a few lunch and coffee stops. My 5'5" wife gave her experience as a pillion 10 out of 10 so I purchased a used one as soon as we returned to the U.S. Happy wife.... From a styling perspective, I much prefer the K over the G which I have not ridden. Now that I'm used to all the character flaws of the K1600, I have no regrets coming from several Yamaha FJRs. Too much tech is a distraction for me. Just gimme the wind, engine sound and some curves and I'm good to go.

@jeeefthegreat7555

11 ай бұрын

You must be an old dentist.

I am an owner of a 2022 Grand America and found your review very accurate. The power is amazing! The BMW connected app is poorly designed when compared to Apple CarPlay/ Android Auto. The wobble is perfectly described as disconcerting, but is not not always present and believe it or not feels quite normal after some time in the saddle. I purchased the bike because the looks appealed to me and for long trips through the Rockies, and have yet to be disappointed. I am constantly looking for reasons to get back on and ride. Thank you for your review. Hopefully BMW, or any manufacturer for that matter, will watch it and listen to your critiques and some time in the future when I am ready to purchase a new bike the perfect bike will exist. 👍

Your review organization and analysis have improved greatly. Very good work , thank you.

As always your insights and compare/contrast based on first hand knowledge excels in this venue. Thanks for the great review!

, your videos are getting better and better. I wish you the best and thank you for your informative commentaries

Very thorough and honest review. I have a 2018 GTL and love most everything about it. The bluetooth radio connections are abysmal, but I get around that by using my headset for music and phone. The engine is superb, and the quick-shifter is like butter. Highway pegs on the engine protecters are a life saver for extended rides. I have ordered a new GTL with the TFT screen and supposedly improved bluetooth, but now I wonder about my phone fitting the compartment. It is a heavy bike and not the best for around town. To counter that, I bought an R1250RS, which is lighter and much more nimble in town. I love the TFT screen and bluetooth connections. It makes a great commuting bike, and performance is fantastic, but it is NOT a touring bike. The quick-shifter is very clunky 1st-2nd and 2nd-3rd, and I'm adjusting to that. I considered getting an R1250RT as a 1-bike-fits all, but after renting one for a tour in the European Alps, I find it considerably underpowered compared to the GTL and heavier than the RS with the same clunky quick-shifter. I have not ridden the Goldwing. Service on a Honda would be much closer to my home, but it seems to scrape underparts much more easily than the GTL.

You nailed the instability issue of the GA. I sold my 2018 Grand America because of it. I tried a different windscreens and tires to no avail, the stability issue was still there on the freeway. I’ve previously had a 2014 GTL, 2017 RT and other non-BMW bikes - none displayed the instability of the 2018 GA. I now have a 2022 GTL and no stability issues with it. BMW is aware of the issue, hence the bike being speed limited.

@paul463

Жыл бұрын

Sold my K1600B after a few months. Most unstable bike I've ever ridden and I've owned 17 bikes. Was made even worse in dirty air situations. Shame really. I loved everything else about the bike but felt very unsafe on it.

@thakrippla

7 ай бұрын

I just sold mine. Never should have listened to the internet no it alls. Nothing fixed the instability. Amazing bike, except it's not a touring bike if it can't handle any dirty air.

I test rode the 1600GT in its second year of production, and was considering it as a replacement for my R1200RT. I LOVE the 1600GT. Gobs of power from any RPM from an engine that is as smooth as a prom queen's thighs, and handles like a bike 250lbs lighter than what the factory specs say it is. I ultimately swapped over to a 1200GS, but the memory of that 1600GT test ride leaves me with a longing in my heart. I can't imagine a better trans-continental tourer.

I've always been curious about these. Thanks for the review

Great review on this Mad-Max machien! I currently ride the '18 GA and it's a hoot to ride. Fell in love with that screaming F-1 sound when you roll back on that throttle!

Hi, thanks for the video, even it is different than all the other reviews ;) I have to say one thing: the camera setting for the final thoughts (you more in front, boke around the bike) is much better than the wide shot BC its gets you more in focus and not the bike. And that is good, because the topic is final thoughts and makes it more personal. I don't know if you do that on other video but please keep filming like this. Again thanks for another great and honest video! PS: sorry for my bad english

Oh, a honest bike review. What a rare sight, subscribed!

Thanks for the review. We have the 2019 grand america version, so not quite the same, but close. We always ride 2 up and replaced the tires immediately, so we haven't experienced some of the same things you describe. We love it. Everyone has their own experiences, but for us, this bike is very close to perfect, and I wouldn't give it up for anything.

Really like the editing and production on this video. The cuts were pleasant and your pacing was excellent. You're definitely stepping up your game!

Excellent review. I’ve owned the 2019 1600B for two years now and I love it. I will say the B also drifts just a little when traveling down the Highway. The stereos on these bikes absolutely sucks. Worst speakers ever. I love the new instrumental panel. I can say my bike is stock regarding the engine and pipes. I topped it at 145 MPH so the bagger will flat out move BUT because of you 😉 I’m selling it now to buy the 2022 1250 GSA. Great job Ian

BMW knows a thing or two about 6 cylinder engines. Most of my favourite BMW cars are 6 cylinder naturally aspirated engines. Love this vid!

Probably the best bike reviews. I'm not a biker though I rode some in my youth and I grew up in the eighties in Limburg, Belgium (at the time the best motocrossers came from there and many of my friends were into bikes), but I kept a lively interest in mechanics. Concise, on point, honest, knowledgable ánd interesting/entertaining also for non-bikers.

Lovely review, as always, Ian! Thanks for the effort. Would love to see a similar review for the R1250RT --- the famous State Trooper bike. Try to get the Alpine White version so that everyone on the street will pull over for you to pass.

Excellent review. Thorough & honest, & very logically presented. Thank you!

I love how you don’t mask the speed. Ride safe and thanks for the great review.

Thanks for this. I was having a hard time deciding between these two.

Brutally honest indeed.thank you.this is a technological masterpiece for sure.

I have been riding a 2012 K1600 for 2 years. Beautiful bike and a lot of fun. No drawbacks. Because I went on an adventure, (see "krazyklaas part one) the bike was no longer suitable because I also have to be able to go off road. Therefore I now have an Afica Twin 1100 the simple model. No comparison possible, of course. But when I see you riding and hear that addictive sound.......

Had the 2017 K1600 bagger from brand new. It drank the BMW advantec oil like it was going out of fashion. I got rid of it after the gearbox recall and a faulty sprag clutch issue where it had sat for 7 weeks in a glossy fronted franchise dealership. The DCT Goldwing eventually put the smile back on my face and I have not looked back since.

I’m quite impressed with how visible the dash is even through a video recording.

Thanks Ian. Great job. Good info. God bless. Happy trails.

Hey, I'm a big fan of your channel. I own a 2013 K 1600 GT and put about 16K miles on it so far, mostly on longer tours. I can say that the stability issues may be just with the B version or Grand America. I really haven't had that with my base K 16. Maybe a little on windy days, but, less than with other bikes I've owned. As far as comfort, I'm 6'2" and even with the GT model, there is very limited leg room. I put an bead seat cover on which gives me a little more room. I can also say that once moving, this bike is like a giant sport bike with engine power everywhere and very strong brakes. The luggage capacity is impressive, and the handling is excellent over about 5 mph. I think the only thing that makes me nervous is if I need to back up when facing downhill. If you're alone, this could be a problem, so, it requires planning. The newer ones come with reverse, so, if I was to get another one, I would definitely get one with the reverse option. Anyway, thanks for your reviews. You are definitely one of the best bike reviewers on KZread.

Very nice review again😜 - nice to see that the subs are increasing - really deserved.

Great review (2021) Goldwing owner. I absolutely love the Goldwing for all of your reasons and more. Put it in sport mode and the motor wakes up and becomes a sport bike. It really doesn't feel heavy at all. BMW does make some amazing bikes, but Honda's reliability is second to none.

I love the video specially you are honest in how a motorcycle perform. Keep it up.

Excellent video and excellent and honest comments. I've owned a BMW (2005 K1200LT) and two Goldwing DCT Tour (2019 and 2023). The cost for servicing my Goldwing is very reasonable and there are multiple locations for Honda motorcycle dealers here in Central Florida. I like BMW motorcycles but there are very few dealers compared to Honda.

Thank you for the beautiful pictures!

You forgot the lay it down test ;) Awesome review, as always!

You’ve forgot to talk about the fact that this bike comes with a reverse gear! This is a great video i think you should have covered that as well! Good job

Much appreciated for your review. In fact, I was about to purchase this toy but after listening to your vid, I have to think twice.

Stability issue is interesting: you have the back wheel thrusting below the CofG, the top box dragging above the Cof G and now they've added a small set of wings to lift the front wheel a little more (footboards). perhaps some downforce at the front to keep the wheel on the ground might help? Great review. Thanks.

Very well done and honest review. That wandering around would wear me out especially in WY, MT, other places out west where the wind is never ending. That 100 MPH Granny control bothers me, not because I necessarily want to go over 100, but it sounds like a ghost hiding in the closet in reference to high speed handling and safety. I don't really like the '18 and up new model 'Wing for several reasons. For now I think I'll just keep my old low tech, steam gauge '13 Wing. I do like the competitive pricing on the BMW and that Indy car sound of the engine. I'm really not mature enough to own a 160 HP bike! Thanks for the ride along, Happy Trails!

So refreshing to hear an honeast bike review

Ohhhh wow finally finally finally touring bikes on the menu, what a engine and sound, Now We talk mate!!!!

Thank you for your thoughts and really cool video!

I like your way introducing this review honestly❤

Hello Ian, thank you so much for your work. You are able to explain complex things alive, so as when i do that in Person, this means a lot to me 😊 Bikes like this are for Traveler and that means you also have late Night and maybe Night trips as well. So we also need Information all about the Light ! Dont anderstand why the most all of tester Magazins copletely ignore that factor! In Europe to…

Superb review as are all the ones I have seen from you; thank you. Conversely, unless I missed it, you did not mention anything about the clutch, quick shifter performance, the Rain Mode, the operation of the headlight orientation in four directions, the Reverse gear function, that there were 5 levels of heat for both the grips and the seat, and that models without floorboards have locking side compartments. Do you have commentary on these things? Thank you.

Another fantastic video, thank you

Congrats!!!! thanks for the honest opinion. I really appreciate it.

I’ve always thought I’d consider the 1600B if I was ever looking for more of a street tourer that wasn’t an adventure bike. And mainly for that engine!

I had the wobble on two different k1600 Baggers. One of them was a demo bike , and the other was a bike that I rented in nevada, knowing that it was most likely going to wobble, and it most certainly did. I wholeheartedly agree, it is very disconcerting - not what I would want in a touring motorcycle.

It is worth adding to your points that the Goldwing uses regular fuel, maintenance intervals are quite far apart, and their dealer network is abundant in NA.

@BigRockMoto

Жыл бұрын

Amazing points

@geneandjax

Жыл бұрын

Up here in Canada, I never use regular fuel in any of my bikes, regardless of brand. The ethanol in the regular fuel actually attracts and absorbs water and really does a number on the tank and fuel system over the 6-7 months of storage over winter. The higher octane premium fuel doesn’t contain ethanol.

RT guy at heart…and considering a GS. Had a few Goldwing in my life, but I honestly thing the RT is a very versatile bike.

I am glad you mentioned the instability issue with the Grand America. There is even a class action lawsuit against BMW. I bought one in 2018 and returned it after a few days later losing quite some money... My dealership would not admit there was an issue. As you said, this is unacceptable for this kind of bike. As much as I like BMW bikes (I still own a 1200 GSA), this time the company handled this very poorly.

Agree with you 100% on your take on bmw technology issues......sold my k1600b....but still stuck with bmw and went with a '22 r1250rt. Great review!

@squid148

Жыл бұрын

I did the same. Had a 2018 K 1600 B and switched to a 22 RT. The RT is much lighter and easier in tighter situations. Of course it’s not as smooth or as good two up.

@SlvrBckBlck

Жыл бұрын

I've ordered my GA. I had a R1250RT and because of the lack of power 2up I'm going with the K1600. Tight spots aren't a big concern for me. I'm kinda a big guy and power is a big deal to me. The RT didn't have enough for me but it was a good bike.

Awesome review as always, thank you!

That is an absolute beast! Seems like that big of a motor would make a little more than 160 hp. I sure wouldn't want to take it down a dirt road. Honestly, at 800 + lbs, I'd be a little leary about riding it period. I'd love to see one with a bren tune and aftermarket exhaust! I'll stick with the Africa Twin. As always, very good review Ian. You may make me change my mind about the AT eventually, lol.

for a touring bike it sure sounds good. I use to ride a S1000RR and I love the stock sound of that engine.

Best bike review I have ever watched!!

I have never seen you screaming inside the helmet this way..... And the bike is screaming too 😄🔥

I demoed a GA and loved it. I compared it to the new wing and compared everything from fit finish to maintenance costs, etc. Spent weeks reasearching the BMW. In the end the BMW was very expensive to maintain and lack of delealers throughout the US were deal breakers for me. The engine on the BMW was unbelievable!

@youtubeaccount9058

Жыл бұрын

I think BMW tries to profiteer more from service than from sales. I hope they realize they're paying a penalty in sales.

brutally honest it is. probably the last time BMW will ask Ian for a review

I have a 2007 k1200gt, and i had that "wobble" too over 90 mph. I blamed everything from the roads to the tires ... but it was the top box.

@skippynj1979

Жыл бұрын

The b is in terrible, but of you put the suspension as 2 up, it went away for me.

@BigRockMoto

Жыл бұрын

Good info

@MrTrollosan

Жыл бұрын

@@skippynj1979 hmm, I’ll have to try that then. Big thanks 👍

@skippynj1979

Жыл бұрын

@@BigRockMoto the new model the suspension is automatic.. but the previous non tft version, set the suspension as having luggage or 2 up on the highway and she is rock solid.

@davidleblanc1964

Жыл бұрын

This!!!!!

Good video. Just turned in my K1600 for a T120 Bonneville because of all the reasons you describe. . .and it made a bit say for all the reasons you describe. Ultimately gave up on all the tech (I had the full tech package on my 2016 GTL, and just connected my IPhone directly to my Carda PackTalk Bold. Don’t even get me started about the BMW integration of phone, GPS, Intercom. . .It was a $400 joke, the worst I’ve ever used. But that engine. . .my God that engine. I will miss it. Review the Bonnie though, you’ll have fun!

I own one and it's a dream. Been riding it all summer around British Columbia. The bike seems very safe, comfortable and the pull is like a roller coaster launch. Some nice features and a few "not sure why they did that? things" but overall it's a really great bike and the motor is simply unreal. I have the GTL without floorboards, so I don't have the wondering issue at all. Also agree the app is a pain vs. other ways of doing that.

@gandharaorganicfoods

Жыл бұрын

Did you studied about Honda Goldwing as well before buying BMW 1600..?? If yes do you regret of not buying the GW instead of your BMW 1600 gtl??

I had a similar wobble back in the day with a GS1100G shaftie, fitted with aftermarket suitcase panniers. At a constant 160kmh+ on the Coquihalla (when it was new) it had a rotational dance that I eventually attributed to a big vortex coming off the back end of the bike. Dollars to doughnuts, that's probably what's going on with the GAm too. Depending on my pechant for a particular seating position I'd either shoot for a GT or GTL anyway. The GAm is a non-starter - if I wanted a 2022 Goldwing, that's what I'd get. No need to for some kludged panniers looking like worn bars of soap and a pair of droopy exhaust pipes on something with an engine that potent.

The UK Honda ST1300 Pan European had an issue with stability at high speeds (Police bike speeds), however, there were two issues found. First the swinging arm system had to be strengthened from 2004 onwards and secondly, the tyre pressures have to be spot on, 42psi front and rear. These bikes (BMW K1600) are the heaviest bikes on the road and crucially, the speeds you were talking about when the instability kicked in are illegal speeds? I owned the GTLE and although I loved the inline 6 power plant, comfort and tech, I found it simply too cumbersome to handle on twisty high country roads of the UK. We went back to the Yamaha FJR1300AE. Good review though.

Great review!

I like the motor on this bike, but I bought the Gold Wing DCT because the peg to seat distance was too close. My knees were too cramped on the Beemer. I’ve had the DCT for 2 years now and added a Corbin seat and fully adjustable Helibar setup. For a touring bike it’s just hard to beat. I still love my BMW GS adventure and Yamaha FJR1300 too.

I own a K16GT. Rode a ‘22 Wing extensively lately. Put a few miles on a ‘22 Road Glide Limited CVO too. I wasn’t huge on the CVO although it was my 2nd favorite engine. Ahead of the Wing. The Gold Wing has more ponies but didn’t feel like it had much of a power advantage on the CVO. Brakes - BMW. Suspension - Honda. Seats - CVO but all 3 are the shits for anyone over 180lbs. Dealer Network - CVO. Wing 2nd here. Materials - BMW. Ergonomics - Wing. Public attention - CVO & BMW. Honda is invisable with these 2 around. Motor - BMW…& maybe the deciding factor. It’s plain addictive. Easily spanks the other 2. Fun factor thru the roof when u roll on the inline 6’s loud handle.

Best intro ever.

Great video & review of a Great bike. You did not do the lift test on this. Wonder why Is it reverse on this bike ?

Good review, the latest update to the K16 really disappointed on the tech side, I really see no benefit to upgrading from my 2018 K1600B, which has had perfect reliability and has never had the wobbling you experienced, the stock screens on all variants need to be replaced, all of them need a kick just before the lip help with the buffeting. The Goldwing is a great bike and for many people that is a better choice, but for some of us that engine is just to special to pass up All six cylinder bikes because of their rarity and impracticality are special Thank you for the insightful review

I had one for 20,000 miles. Great bike.

Nice review keep up the good work does it come in automatic

Amazing bike! Thanks for review. The only problem it's too heavy.

I did a test ride on the ga the other day and felt that bobbing. Not the end of the world but sure would get old on a long ride. That engine sure is silky smooth and that's the reason I bought a 1250rt instead. Need some rumble. I actually like the tft display. I think that bike needs a software update. Earlier versions the dial wouldn't control the volume. Most recent version fixes many bugs including that. Using the 4 quick buttons make navigation really easy. Great bike but expensive to service. I'll stick to the boxer.

I was shopping for a sport bike in 2018 and was leaning towards the K16 because of the performance. I checked out a GTL at the local dealership (the Grand America didn't exist yet) and was terrified just sitting on it in the showroom. The seat was too high for my 29" inseam, and it felt heavier than my Chevy pickup. The '18 Goldwing Tour DCT fit me like a glove, was easy to ride, and I had to go with it. Thank you for the excellent and honest review.

@rykehuss3435

Жыл бұрын

Is that inseam to the ankle or to the floor? maybe the GTL had the 2 inch raised seat installed, meant for taller riders. I'm 6'2 with also 29" inseam (to ankle)

@gnrands50

Жыл бұрын

@@rykehuss3435 To ankle. I'm pretty sure the seat had been raised, but she still felt top-heavy. My toes barely touched the floor and I was afraid of dropping her in the showroom. Probably a great ride, as long as I never have to stop.

@k-rod2453

Жыл бұрын

I can flat foot the gtl. The seat hight is 29.5 inches. I have a 28.8 inseam. The the 2023 wings seat is wider. The bmw is a little more top heavy. But any experienced rider would have no problem with this bike. Maybe a honda monkey would better suit your neefs.😂

Excellent review.

I think it’s the wind hitting the floorboards making it a little bit unstable. I have a Yamaha Royal star and at 120-140 kml per hour, I can put it on cruise control and ride without any hands touching the handle bars. It tracks extremely straight. I want this one though. Have a blessed day.

The power And comfort as well size is what keep me with my k1600, but what I go thru with this bike is another story. I always pize BMW and Mercedes from my and family experience, for they quality build and no issue, until in 2018 I bought new k1600 moving from Japanese bikes where change of oil was only thing to do but in BMW I had - failure of transmission, failure of engine /replaced, failure of switches on handlebar 3x, 4x replacement of Navi, abs failure. Now bike work fine with 50000miles on clock but the quality build stay in my head which affect my searching for new beast. I think I will end up with new gtl for size, power, comfort. I hope they fixt the issue with build that some k1600 pull to left if you barley touch handlebar because if you go trips like me from north Scotland to Croatia it affect your shoulder due to pushing bar constant to counteract bike pull. It’s amazing bike give you plenty smile and plenty visits in workshop too. Everything in that review is as the bike is apart long review knowledge. Just to add you absolutely right for the phone pocket on bike it is perfect space not for phone but for credit card while traveling on highways in Europe lol

@vladalexandru5861

Жыл бұрын

I traded my K1600GT for a brand New Africa Twin ATAS DCT for the same reason. Too many visits to the dealer for servicing: either topping oil, or topping coolant, resetting or calibrating the quickshifter. And add the fact that this bike eats tyres for breakfast.

I’ve no interest in this category…but it was a fascinating video and I enjoyed learning about it.

What a close debate between a new GW and the K1600GLT. I want one or the other and can’t decide. Pros and cons to both. But that in-line 6 is amazing.

I prefer the smaller cc bikes because of weight but years back I made a big mistake buying a brand new Honda CTX700 instead of the Honda NC700, after spending over $1500 extra just trying to improve the ride comfort I finally gave up and bought the NC750 and have had no regrets, just the extra inch and a half of rear suspension and the upright seating position made a Hugh difference on my back

Very nice review.

Even the Honda Twin Africa 2022 already has Apple car play and Android Auto, but yeah, still, for its engine, it has its own place, like the R18. But sometimes riding a bike is not always about comfort, ease to use, etc., but it is a passion to listen to the engine or other reasons. So I bet there will be people who will buy and use K1600 Grand America because of this reason.

I test drove a GA for an entire day and then test drove a New 18wing. I actually loved the GA far better than the wing for many reasons. My decision to buy the wing instead of the GA came down to maintenance costs, dealer network and parts availability. Far and away the GA was a lot more to maintain. I do know 2 people would bought GTL's and after 3 yrs traded them in due to issues and maintenance costs. That motor in these bikes is unbelievable...wish my wing had it but, i made the right decision in choosing the right bike for me.

I had a 2020 Harley Limited and they fixed the wandering and buffeting issue by cutting a vent hole at the bottom of the windshield. This reduced the pressure on the front of the bike and most importantly erased the pressure bubble behind the windshield where the buffeting would occur. So if your bike does this, get out your sawzall guys and start cutting, or, just order a windshield with a vent hole, your pick.

You mention stability,, I'm curious, and want to ask,, Is it possible it's the tires that cause this instability as you mention? I realize it's the GA,, and I have a 23 GTL, Metzler RoadTec 01's set at 42 psi.. It feels very stable. I have read some guys experience some wondering with the Michelin Road Pilot 6..

That sounds awesome 👏🏽

Loved that Palpatine reference there :D

Great Video. Currently I have a 2023 tiger GT Explorer. I love everything about the bike although I am still getting use to the look which I am not use to. I sold my 2021 Road Glide Limited for it. Absolutely no regrets! Before I bought Tiger I almost bought a 2022 BMW GTL K1600. The engine blew me away but the size is the issue. Thats why I sold my Harley Road Glide Limited. I am thinking about the BMW R1250RT now and wanted your opinion as to what you would choose a 2023 Tiger GT Explorer or a newer BMW R1250RT. The look of the BMW appeals a bit more to me than the Tiger GT Explorer. I know every bike has something that is not perfect but wanted your overall opinion between a 2023 Tiger GT Explorer or a newer BMW R1250RT? I dont want to regret selling my new Tiger! It really does everything really well.