BMW car audio amplifier repair - draining the battery

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  • @abrahamfoam7376
    @abrahamfoam73763 жыл бұрын

    You are the only KZreadr that when publishes a video I have to watch immediately. And you grab all my attention. Thank you.

  • @northpoint1039
    @northpoint10393 жыл бұрын

    Ive done some amp repairs. Usually its after market amps. People hook them up wrong or do not tune them right and end up blowing them. Then I would fix them and tell them to check their wiring and settings. Then they blow it again and accuse me of not fixing it right. So, I really scaled back on repairing them. There are a lot of people out there that think you can just hook them up and go. Thank heaven this is a factory amp.

  • @tongravity5668
    @tongravity56683 жыл бұрын

    Two videos per day from Sorin - what can be better?Thank you!

  • @cagataykilic7978

    @cagataykilic7978

    3 жыл бұрын

    what about three videos per day ? :)

  • @randomkitty2555
    @randomkitty25553 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your insight on audio amps, you're years of experience is priceless for us techs.

  • @yourchannel4105
    @yourchannel41053 жыл бұрын

    sorin we all love you i'm from Ethiopia i see allmost all your video i learn a lot you change my life thank you

  • @jasoniancajes6960
    @jasoniancajes69603 жыл бұрын

    Thank You for always sharing your expertise Sir Sorin!

  • @kinsoncooper7333
    @kinsoncooper73333 жыл бұрын

    Sir.... before I even finish watching the video... thank you. From Trinidad and Tobago.

  • @harryohanson
    @harryohanson2 жыл бұрын

    I have not seen a video from you yet that I have not watched all the way to the end. Love it! Keep em coming!

  • @jholkipan8801
    @jholkipan88013 жыл бұрын

    Thanks sorin, some new appliance for us to learn. Thanks you legend.

  • @2bad83
    @2bad833 жыл бұрын

    TDA1565TH is the chip you need good luck finding it! also this amp is a class AB. I would swop the chip with the one next to it just to see because the fault could be with pin 2 mode/standby/operating mode circuit.

  • @tyronenelson9124

    @tyronenelson9124

    3 жыл бұрын

    What are you talking about they are all over ebay. even some of the Bose sound docks contain them.

  • @tinkmarshino
    @tinkmarshino3 жыл бұрын

    this was an interesting one! Do keep us posted on this one.. thanks Sorin..

  • @melplishka5978
    @melplishka59783 жыл бұрын

    Waking up to your vids are better than coffee lol. Ty.

  • @gs637
    @gs6373 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff Sorin! Multumesc

  • @108Marlin
    @108Marlin3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Sorin , another great video .

  • @ReparadorAficionado
    @ReparadorAficionado3 жыл бұрын

    These BMW cars have Bose speakers on them, so this amplifier may well be a Bose high spec amplifier too. Great videos, Sorin!

  • @salihayrov765

    @salihayrov765

    3 жыл бұрын

    BOSE on BMW comon mate i never see . probably is harman /kardon

  • @gavincurtis

    @gavincurtis

    2 жыл бұрын

    I believe they are Harmon in BMW and Bose in Audi. Both pretty advanced systems with DSP.

  • @jeffsylvester7394
    @jeffsylvester73943 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Shorted or burnt speaker will short that chip.replacing it will stop the battery drain.but before installing check the impedance on that speaker otherwise it will short that ic out again.nice video and diagnostic

  • @HnsxToP
    @HnsxToP3 жыл бұрын

    Great video, waiting for the update, i hope the customer wants it fixed xD

  • @hildadorn3435
    @hildadorn34353 жыл бұрын

    Hello Sorin Yes watching you everyday from indian Ocean

  • @adaniel69
    @adaniel693 жыл бұрын

    15:00 (expecting) let's modify it and use another common chip amplifier! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @electronic7979
    @electronic79793 жыл бұрын

    Nice repair video

  • @tanishqbhaiji103
    @tanishqbhaiji1033 жыл бұрын

    2 videos back on back, yes!

  • @samuelbuenaventura4602
    @samuelbuenaventura46023 жыл бұрын

    Watching sir, from the Philippines.

  • @metalacos
    @metalacos3 жыл бұрын

    Mr. Sorin's boss please buy him thermal cam, please, please. Invest little bit in this man's work. Or at least buy him hand burn cream :)

  • @nutterhm
    @nutterhm3 жыл бұрын

    keep up the good work

  • @melplishka5978
    @melplishka59783 жыл бұрын

    I’m still working on a thermo cam for ya my friend.

  • @kintag4459
    @kintag44593 жыл бұрын

    Thank you oh engineer

  • @sdf_mx99
    @sdf_mx993 жыл бұрын

    three in a row woot woot txs for share your knowledge, greeting and blessings from mexico city

  • @Fus3rr
    @Fus3rr3 жыл бұрын

    16:30 TDA1565 supply voltage is ~14v. it powers directly from the battery, thats why it drains current even with main power inverter turned off .

  • @ReneBMWM3Power

    @ReneBMWM3Power

    2 жыл бұрын

    So constant power from battery, then when this part fails, battery gets drained. Logic, thx

  • @User2718218
    @User27182183 жыл бұрын

    Sorin, it looks like TDA1565TH is available out of Hong Kong on eBay.

  • @Anachronos1

    @Anachronos1

    3 жыл бұрын

    btw, my friends who repair only audio systems complain that our chinese "brothers" make a lot fake transistors and audio chips. So if you buy one of these no one know what will happen.

  • @User2718218

    @User2718218

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Anachronos1 I seriously doubt that. I don't think semiconductor chips like this are ever cloned. The people in Hong Kong are probably chip brokers that have access to the remaining stock in the world. I don't have full knowledge, I am just telling you what I think.

  • @Anachronos1

    @Anachronos1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@User2718218 Search it on KZread and you will be surprised badly. They make fake copy almost on any transistor and some chips who are used in audio systems.

  • @chumatez
    @chumatez3 жыл бұрын

    Nice one

  • @user-kz7pl4xc1y
    @user-kz7pl4xc1y3 жыл бұрын

    very good

  • @PapaGleb
    @PapaGleb2 жыл бұрын

    New to electronic work/repair and have been learning a lot from your channel so thank you for that. What temps do you hot air? I saw your video on your old tool for manual hot air which was great and I know everything you said in that video about the hotter the faster the better but I seem to have a hard time. I hot air @ 390c full ait power and it still seems that the parts take a long time to come off. Not like yours as they seem to pop right off. Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again and keep up the amazing work.

  • @andrewhenderson6219
    @andrewhenderson62193 жыл бұрын

    Great tuition. Are you a qualified technician

  • @zx8401ztv
    @zx8401ztv3 жыл бұрын

    Those chips are likely in standby, but the damaged one is shorted to the rails. Bad speaker maybe. I would not experement with that amplifier, it could become an expensive mistake :-(

  • @zenoelea8239

    @zenoelea8239

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes check the cars speakers, then look for a used amplifier from a scrap dealer and rob the chip. Or like Sorin suggested talk to the customer about not having that speaker in circuit.

  • @klaust.2769

    @klaust.2769

    3 жыл бұрын

    Check the cabeling also! Often the cable is shorted to Car ground. This will destroy the amplifier!

  • @attilahajnal765
    @attilahajnal7653 жыл бұрын

    20:30 "Otherwise I can do some crazy things..." when the dodgyness switches on. :D Clearly at this time you cannot solve it without a donor or some dodgyness. :)

  • @keithking1985
    @keithking19853 жыл бұрын

    cool. problem caught right away. all it took was a brunt finger : )

  • @Anachronos1
    @Anachronos13 жыл бұрын

    Better replace the chip if you find one. Otherwise leave it like this. But customer have to check his speakers and wires anyway.

  • @nutterhm
    @nutterhm3 жыл бұрын

    The amplifier has a separate power supply. The amplifier is switched on by the RAD_ON signal from the radio (> 8 V = ON / < 6 V = OFF).

  • @jasonbandy2762
    @jasonbandy27623 жыл бұрын

    Looks like pin2 controls the mode of the chip, perhaps pin 2 is shorted?

  • @danandrei96
    @danandrei963 жыл бұрын

    Aliexpress has the tda1565th for sale

  • @tongravity5668
    @tongravity56683 жыл бұрын

    There`s some of them on eBay,8-13.50$

  • @rellaxshala4189

    @rellaxshala4189

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, but he has to write the whole name "TDA1565TH".

  • @MrRvdbeek

    @MrRvdbeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    € 6,58 | (1 stks) TDA8566TH/N2S TDA8921TH/N1 TDA8920TH/N1 TDA8926TH/N2 TDA8922TH/N1 TDA3608TH/N3 TDA1565TH/ n1 TDA8566TH/N2/N AliExpress

  • @ja.935g67
    @ja.935g673 жыл бұрын

    Teacher! 👍

  • @LuxorVan
    @LuxorVan3 жыл бұрын

    BD electronics, not sure if they have a min order but they have 12k in stock. These were discontinued in 2009 I believe.

  • @shimes424
    @shimes4243 жыл бұрын

    JBL had the same problem in my '96 Town Car stock radio Battery post disconnect switch was my dummy fix 😂

  • @nutterhm
    @nutterhm3 жыл бұрын

    exactly what i was thinking, where do you start, what direction.

  • @andreiuul1
    @andreiuul13 жыл бұрын

    this is an interesting one please DO update us, especially if you are planning any dodgy stuff with the board if you put the channels of 2 speakers in series one with the other, would the amp be able to drive both?

  • @pedrofilipeserra1582

    @pedrofilipeserra1582

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes but probably it have an output problem. each speaker would get 1 ohm each (parallel) and he says the minimum is 2ohms

  • @showmytime9177

    @showmytime9177

    2 жыл бұрын

    you can do a BTL and have almost twice the power

  • @NurdRage777
    @NurdRage7773 жыл бұрын

    17:57 conformal coating.

  • @GetGood5
    @GetGood53 жыл бұрын

    Sweet

  • @SidneyCritic
    @SidneyCritic3 жыл бұрын

    I think all automotive PCBs are coated, at least all the Mazda ones I have taken apart were coated

  • @keyworksva
    @keyworksva2 жыл бұрын

    Most IC's in automotive stuff is masked so searching for information on them is rather difficult. BMW especially has a lot of custom made stuff you cant really get anywhere. If its not masked is almost always obsolete. Aliexpress sometimes if you get lucky but if its not a commonly failing chip like injector drivers then even if you find one its probably something else and just labeled with what you want.

  • @gordthor5351
    @gordthor53513 жыл бұрын

    The timing couldn't have been better. "the current is just little bit, so how we can know.........." what is HOT!!!!

  • @mcgama88
    @mcgama883 жыл бұрын

    I have a high suspicion the installed speaker was flooded with liquid, as water damage that led to a condition as constant to ground.... short. I would be very curious as to operation via reinstall in end use. Was that as to an automobile? I hold the view, install of a new chip would be shown to new, unprotected ground and subsequent 2nd chip fail. I think a clear, repair as to device would be to cite, the potential for high heat, as to a consuming fire. Replacement of chip demanding discard of speaker . *replacement.(also)/ What an interesting repair problem. Please mention how the job was finished to customer need. M.

  • @DAVIDGREGORYKERR
    @DAVIDGREGORYKERR3 жыл бұрын

    Is there a short between the sense pin and 12V

  • @FPSAnarchy
    @FPSAnarchy3 жыл бұрын

    scrapyard, whole amp costs like what $10-$15 USD?

  • @cenicko

    @cenicko

    9 ай бұрын

    More like $350- $400 I am looking for exact same amp

  • @nicholasroberts6954
    @nicholasroberts69543 жыл бұрын

    Round of applause matey ! Bl**dy car electronics. Cheap and nasty construction and bad circuit design but high replacement prices ! I got a failed motorised temperature flap on a Skoda Fabia ventilation system . . drains the battery in two weeks. To change the ventilation flap motor, which itself costs £70 !, will involve removing a fair bit of the dashboard and cost £500 ! My solution, take out the fuse and, also, oddly, the diagnostic socket fuse . . . battery drain gone !

  • @POPRAVIPOKVARENO9596
    @POPRAVIPOKVARENO95963 жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍👍

  • @apolinarmartinez5723
    @apolinarmartinez57233 жыл бұрын

    I have seen same IC audio into the Bose 321 models, maybe can help you to find part for fix it, regards

  • @Vo0d0o2009
    @Vo0d0o20093 жыл бұрын

    0:53 Switching mosfet for remote , shorted Drain /source , ? , i continue listenig video :_)

  • @wetering
    @wetering3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Sorin, Is it possible that the chip is still ok, but a surrounding capacitor has shorted?

  • @roner61

    @roner61

    3 жыл бұрын

    No. He took out the chip and the problem dissapeared, end story.

  • @onetimelifebigcamera1607
    @onetimelifebigcamera16073 жыл бұрын

    😍😍😍😍

  • @saltcityrepairs5121
    @saltcityrepairs51213 жыл бұрын

    Sir, one question, and i cant help not to ask you this one. What was your College course? You seem to know everything about electronics. I hope you can answer back, as Im planning to follow your footsteps. Thanks.

  • @MrRvdbeek
    @MrRvdbeek3 жыл бұрын

    When one is blowup then the output is being wrong. One speaker making a short ? Like you show a little burnt connector pin.?

  • @sabersmira2986
    @sabersmira29863 жыл бұрын

    please more explination about serial mode and the ohms output ? in paper with diagramme if you can please thank you

  • @alswearengen826
    @alswearengen8263 жыл бұрын

    Disconnect or bypassed that factory amp, suggest the owner to upgrade to aftermarket 5 channel type of amp and the rest of the front and rear 2 ohms speakers to 4 ohms..

  • @Tegelane5

    @Tegelane5

    3 жыл бұрын

    Aftermarket 4 ohm bridgable amplifiers can handle 2 ohms easily. Problem would be other circuitry inside BMW amp, original headunit might not turn on without it. But tda1565 inputs could be connected to outside amplifiers inputs. Building it, so it looks decent is not worth it probably..

  • @constantinjitariu1439
    @constantinjitariu14393 жыл бұрын

    I FOUND THAT CHIP ON EBAY

  • @ginopumadera4265
    @ginopumadera42653 жыл бұрын

    Hey Sorin try sonic electronics

  • @robinsonsoto8471
    @robinsonsoto84712 жыл бұрын

    One of the speaker may be shorted. Therefore. The audio ic is defective.

  • @nutterhm
    @nutterhm3 жыл бұрын

    this one is sick lol

  • @alhagopian2100
    @alhagopian21003 жыл бұрын

    MOUSHER ELECTRONICS IN USA

  • @banacek7260
    @banacek72603 жыл бұрын

    I agree AliExpress for the chip

  • @Johnathan_Waters
    @Johnathan_Waters3 жыл бұрын

    What you need is a donor amplifier....

  • @DAVIDGREGORYKERR
    @DAVIDGREGORYKERR3 жыл бұрын

    Mouser Electronics.

  • @professoringles985
    @professoringles9853 жыл бұрын

    here in Brazil there's a lot of them on Mercado Livre, but... too far!

  • @rigetpw
    @rigetpw3 жыл бұрын

    Covered with some special fingy lol

  • @compromise490
    @compromise4903 жыл бұрын

    I want to be doggy like this man

  • @craigreynolds4449
    @craigreynolds44493 жыл бұрын

    hi Sorin, maybe buy a broken amp from ebay or maybe a car scrap yard

  • @builtrodewreckedit
    @builtrodewreckedit3 жыл бұрын

    strange it is always hot and not wired threw the ignition switch.

  • @jeffsylvester7394

    @jeffsylvester7394

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi.it most probably shorted the pins causing the ic to get hot at below800 m.a.That will drain the battery in couple hours time.its like leaving a light on in your car.drop in voltage will drain the battery esp overnite

  • @AB-yu2tj
    @AB-yu2tj2 жыл бұрын

    I still have some question Marks here...

  • @bullshooters6714
    @bullshooters67143 жыл бұрын

    look like resistor dried up first on side of chip

  • @johnprescott6614
    @johnprescott66143 жыл бұрын

    "A thermal camera would be usefull, but we don't have something like that". Would an IR themometer somehow help in this instance?

  • @showmytime9177

    @showmytime9177

    2 жыл бұрын

    somewhat, but not by much as you need to point it towards the exact culprit.

  • @johnprescott6614

    @johnprescott6614

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@showmytime9177 I guess it would be usefull if something large (like a chipset) was shorted, not so if it's an smd cap

  • @KuntalGhosh
    @KuntalGhosh2 жыл бұрын

    U can buy them on ebay for 14$.

  • @sosscs
    @sosscs3 жыл бұрын

    what is that liquid you poured on the chip at 11:53 ?

  • @NicuRO91

    @NicuRO91

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's Zippo lighter fuel fluid. You can get it online.

  • @gordthor5351

    @gordthor5351

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NicuRO91 Why not just use isopropyl alcohol? It's cheap and can be purchased at any drugstore. Most people already have it to clean flux off the PCB. Also it leaves no residue on the board.

  • @jackgarrison8497

    @jackgarrison8497

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gordthor5351 Isopropyl Alcohol is also really good to use for when You accidentally cut Yourself it's good to clean out Infections

  • @ReneBMWM3Power
    @ReneBMWM3Power2 жыл бұрын

    Where is next vid???

  • @melplishka5978
    @melplishka59783 жыл бұрын

    Alliexpress has.

  • @showmytime9177
    @showmytime91772 жыл бұрын

    the chip was burned from too many manele.

  • @marcusroth2428
    @marcusroth24283 жыл бұрын

    You're putting TDA1565HT into google instead of TH.

  • @georgeoprescu3002
    @georgeoprescu30022 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2009 BMW Amplifier damaged by water. Are you interested in giving me a quote? Thank you

  • @aminechabanne1251
    @aminechabanne12513 жыл бұрын

    1st comment ✌️✌️

  • @thomaskane9922
    @thomaskane99223 жыл бұрын

    Sorry for laughing when you burned yor finger

  • @GharacDurac
    @GharacDurac3 жыл бұрын

    TH and not HT

  • @ErfanRv
    @ErfanRv3 жыл бұрын

    2nd

  • @danielcotiga9854
    @danielcotiga98543 жыл бұрын

    Defapt nu il au in stoc. Scuze

  • @tyronenelson9124
    @tyronenelson91243 жыл бұрын

    That amp is way by far too over engineered, it looks like it has own digital audio processing and DSP.

  • @ralgor100
    @ralgor1003 жыл бұрын

    Try aliexpress