I don't have a problem buying an ex-Police Bike as long as the seller is honest and says it in the advert. Ive seen bikes for sale that have had the bodywork and seat etc changed and repainted to make them look 'Normal' They then charge top Dollar for them. One big give away is the RS sticker on the Speedometer that shows that it is a calibrated Speedometer 😀

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

Very true buddy.

I am in Australia and Just received my 2016 R1200RTp and I absolutely love it. I think I will have to sell my GS now because I don't think I will ride it much if ever. Thank you for your videos, I have also installed the Chigee, and Ezcan (somebody stop me) it can't get much better. I will post a video soon as there aren't many on these great bikes.

First off ~ thank you for the videos. It was your review of the 2018 R1200RT that helped me make the decision to make the purchase. After 36K km still loving it every kilometre!!! A couple seating solutions for you. To stop sliding forward I bought two rubber mounts, which the front of the seat pan mounts to on the frame, with off set holes. They are designed to lower the seat but if you turn them 180º they raise the front end on the seat. To keep my bottom cool I put a 3D mesh cover on the seat. HUGE difference!!! I found them both on the Chinese Amazon site for about $25 Cdn for mounts and seat covers.

The 9 mile an hour lower limit, for the cruise control is for parade duty, when motors would lead parades. The instrument cluster angle can be adjusted to reduce and or remove glare from the sun, the hump/radio box has an available optional padding that can go on the front of the box to protect your back And the additional plastic around the frame is there to improve the rider’s comfort, not so much for cleanliness, but to keep excess heat away from the rider.

The RT is a better Tourer than the GS models (I owned 4 GSs and GSAs in the past). It has an amazing weather protection and aerodynamic design. The GS models start feeling lighter in highway speeds while the RT gets planted like it creates some sort of downforce with speed.

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

It seems fabulous at everything at the moment :)

@beemrdon52

9 ай бұрын

The fairing creates that down pressure that you were referring to. I've had my K1100 LT up to a speedometer indicated speed of 150. Maxed out the tach. Fairing kept the bike planted.

I think they can set the cruise control speed that low because the gearbox is a bit different that civilian version

Really good video with more detail than you normally go into 👍 … look forward to hearing how you get on with this, looks like you’ve got a good buy there …

I subscribed just to say I definitely want to see more videos on the R1200RTP. I'm shopping for one now here in the US.

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

Thanks buddy. Will be more coming :)

I had the civilian R1200RT. It was an amazing bike. Thinking about getting another one secondhand because I miss it so much.

Nice addition to your fleet Toby.

What we all want to know was how much did it cost? Think this is one of the best videos that you have done, I can see so much sense in to looking at the second hand market, these bikes will give most riders all that they need and at a fraction of the cost, most vloggers seem obsessed with promoting all the latest wizardry that the manufacturers want us to believe that we need when most of us really don't, if we ride on European roads at relatively law abiding speeds then all we probably need is traction control, maybe ABS and cruise is very handy if you go on longer rides... job done! Hats off for some common sense, looking forward to hearing more about your great new bike.

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

thanks so much for the kind words... It was the older RTP I had for a couple of months with 134000 miles on it. it rode like it had only done 30k and was super great so I wanted the water-cooled version and found this one and have to say I love it... love the fact that there are less gizmos.... its the way to go I think, so many used bikes out there! will still be reviewing new ones, but plan to do a few vids on this one... :). you can pick these up from auction for around £4000 is your lucky and mine didn't cost much more.. these RTP's are a bargain over the regular versions money wise, you just have to make sure its got the bits on it you want, like cruise control etc as many don't.... ride safe buddy

I agree ,a lovely machine police or civilian.I own a 2015 civilian model and it still goes like a new bike.Also has a new drive shaft just fitted which is free after 63 000 km.Service it as per the book and the boxers are bullet proof.Swear by Michelin Road 6 GT tyres over OEM and even Pirelli Angels.

I actually like the look of the rtp. Iam certainly going to buy one. They are really good value for money compared to some privately owned bikes , there appears to be some horror stories but personally think its a bit of a myth, which is all good for those of us who want to purchase one. Looking forward to more updates on your bike.👍

@RiderCamTV

10 ай бұрын

they are great and super value for money compared to the normal RT's. Some are better than others of course, but on the whole they have been looked after and serviced properly and not to mention ridden properly :)

Gorgeous Bike.....I have a 2006 Honda STP and love it.....

That is a gorgeous looking bike, its enough to make you want to buy one yourself. Excellent video. 👍👍

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for your kind and thoughtful words. Are you buying one too?

I like the older version of the RT, and it was your YT channel that inspired me to get it in 2017-18. Take it on tour to Spain.

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

awesome machine... glad we helped with your choice of bike.. :) might just have to take it on tour

They are amazing bikes, i started riding the RTP in 2007 and finished on the 1250 model a few months ago, they were serviced every 8 weeks in my old life, and very rarely let us down and the handling embarrassed many a sports bike rider, i was so impressed i have owned two of my own RT’s just from the aspect of the handling and comfort. Some have had a harder life than others, they get used a lot for low gear acceleration on emergency response and can develop a bit of an issue with the first three gears, also the brake pads, disks and fluid was changed on a very regular basis for the same reasons. The angel eyes and cruise control wasnt an option from the factory, the ones that had it were normally just random installations, they were certainly the best crash bars ever fitted to any bike and tested by multiple people. Great channel 👍

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

thanks so much for the kind words Andrew. Love this bike to bits and sounds like you've had a few of them too! I've always loved the ride on these and this one hasn't disappointed on that front..

@gaby6040

11 ай бұрын

Hi, I have a 2007 RTP, riding it now, strange what you say about the crash bars in front, they are useless on mine, I dropped the bike on a side (stalled) and it scratched the cylinder head, so I don't know what they are protecting, it was easy to lift, true, but still heads are both scratched, maybe mine are installed wrong, don't know. Anyway, the bike rides wonderful, I love the stability, wind protection, amazing, I do own a K1200RS 2001 and K1200LT 2002(this one still in project phase, haven't riden it yet) and I can say that I will keep both the RS and the RT. Love the power and sound of RS and love the position, wind protection and comfort of the RT.

Buying a ex police bike has passed my mind so very interested. Keep up the good work

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

thanks buddy.. they are good value and cracking bikes

Nice bike Tobes 🤙

Being followed on tour by a police bike will be very reassuring 😁👍

The panels you mention down by the footpegs are standard on RTPs but not on the civilian ones. You can order from a BMW dealer or buy some aftermarket versions. I loved my RT and really regret selling it. Your vid has made me think about changing back to one again. Did two iron butt rides on it and it was brilliant

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

that's handy to know... I thought that it was a quirk of the RTP with the panels but the footpegs.. I regret selling my 14 plate a few years ago...hence getting this one :)

Defo interested to hear more about this bike, fancy one myself 👍

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

Great stuff. Will be doing some more vids on this one soon. Including a tour :)

@BikerDarren24

11 ай бұрын

Great to hear guys 👍@@RiderCamTV

You are spot on with your assessment. The mirrors are fine, the only thing I would disagree with is that the standard panniers let things fall out. No they don’t it’s crap packing and clumsiness by the rider. Just take care 😅😅😅 I’m on my 4th RT they are brilliant and certainly last ages. Enjoy the bike

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comments. That’s my experience with the standard panniers. Being a tour guide it’s much easier to get access from the top than the side and as you can expect I pack well but they don’t suit what I want. Each to their own :)

Recently picked up a 2017 LE model which has all the toys as standard. I believe the P variant is the basic model hence no angel eyes etc. Anyway my bike had 41k on it (miles) when purchased with full BMW history and is almost pristine. I paid 7.4k for it and rides like a dream. The mirrors took some getting used to but do work superb. The RTs definitely wear mileage well if maintained, I’d wanted one for some time but didn’t fancy PCP on new or spending 21k - very happy. Thanks 👍

@derache123

7 ай бұрын

The P model is just the police/authorities model - it has a different wiring harness, auxiliary battery, crash bars, slim panniers and radio box, and a shorter final drive ratio (among some other things). All the fancy bits including the angel eyes can be optioned on the P model, but most police agencies simply choose not to.

I bought the blue bike and I blame you 100%. 🤣 I wish they would design the larger panniers to open the same way as these do after coming from Tiger with top opening boxes these panniers are a pain in the arse.

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

was nice to meet you the other day buddy... you have a peachy bike there!

RT stands for Rally Tour, and a clutch replacement on the 2015 and newer RT’s takes just over one hour.

@Heivang

5 ай бұрын

Where did you get that from? RT stands for Reise-Tourer. As in travel-trourer.

An IRS Nottingham calibrated speedometer Mark, No excuses now 🤣🤣

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

🤣🤣

Would be fantastic to follow the progress of the RT-P and all the mods you’re doing, especially what you do with the auxiliary wiring harness etc, I’ve just bought a 2016 RT-P so very interested to follow it’s development, thanks in advance

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

Cool. More coming soon ;)

please keep us updated

@RiderCamTV

10 ай бұрын

Will do! will be a more videos in the next couple of months as Barney is going touring with me!

You commented on the mirrors - my last bike was a 2012 RT and the mirrors were fine until I fitted the top box. That obscured the rearwards view so much that I fitted bar-end mirrors. I suspect that's the problem for many people.

@krytenLister

11 ай бұрын

I use 58L top box and never been an issue

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

Could be although top boxes aren’t usually wider than the rider so not sure why it affected you, but view is a personal subjective thing so glad you found a solution

I needed to add the mirrors from an K1200RS to my 2007 RT-P, because mine were just siliconed in, the bracket that holds them in the back of the glass is broken and they are extremely expensive to buy and can't find second hand nowhere, also I am used from my other bike to look at the mirrors on the handle bars. I'm getting my RT-P ready for a European tour now in August, service, valves, removing ABS pump 🤭,installing some more wiring for GPS and USB charging. Do you have some wires in your glove compartiment as well, which a relay in there, what is that for, can you find out ? Maybe I can wire from there and not go to the battery. Anyways, I love the bike to bits, handling, wind protection, comfort, maybe hate the sound, but hey-ho you can't have everything.

RT-P bikes also have lower final drive ratio that’s about half way between regular RT and a GS. My 2009 version which I bought for “a song” is perfect because I treat it as a sport bike, but it is also supremely comfortable for tours. I’ve converted it for two-up riding and do not regret it one bit.

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info about the ratio. They are awesome bikes and I love mine :)

@bencarpenter9149

8 ай бұрын

How easy was it to remove the box and install the pillion seat mate?

It's going to be a great bike. I'm sure it'll convert you from the GS completely. 😜 It's interesting that you dismiss the use of inner bags in the civvy side-boxes because they slightly reduce capacity, then praise the P model for forcing you to plan how to take less stuff with you. You then try to re-invent the top-box. 🙃 In all seriousness, though, I hope you enjoy the bike. 👍

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

I think it might have already! eek! Yeah I know what you mean about the panniers, but I guess for me to load them from the top is so much easier and to also limit me taking far too much on each tour is always good.. I love the hump as it is and to utilise it in a way to carry more stuff is a must I recon :)

Yes more please! One question, on the earlier RTP's the frame was weighted with lead shot. Is this the case it the newer versions?

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

Excellent. Will be more to come on this one :) Not sure about the lead shot

You should definitely install the Angel LED Lights

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

Might have to look at that, unless it needs recoding and loads of work to get it to work of course..

Nice, Be interested in knowing where you bought it from.

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

From a company in York. Came from auction ;)

Good review of a monster machine, tell me, what’s it like to do a bit of filtering on? I think I might buy one🤔👍🏼

@RiderCamTV

8 ай бұрын

Awesome for filtering :)

Where did you get it from?

I have just bought one 2016 so if you could put anymore on this I would be gratefull Cheers Alan

@RiderCamTV

7 ай бұрын

More on the way

Hi again, I have a really important question you hopefully can help with. How do you re-set the speed recorder after you have recorded a speed? I have tried every switch but can't find a way to put it back to 0

@RiderCamTV

24 күн бұрын

Sorry buddy. Not sure what you mean

At the end of the day most bikes and cars will last as a long time if the correct servicing is carried out. 😂

The Scottish police say they’re wrecked at 40k miles? Utter rubbish unless they didn’t maintain them. The only issue I have with the RT is finish. Newer ones might be ok but every post 2013 bike I’ve seen had alloy corrosion and some had poor paintwork. I wonder if owners weren’t maintaining them? My 2018 RS had some corrosion on pannier frame racks due to bad paint finish but is excellent everywhere else. I’d buy an ex police RT. Most I see look excellent and as stated are just nicely run in! Great bikes

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

Totally agree. If maintained properly they aren’t even run in yet :) I think there was an issue with some engine casings but this one seems fine

@ReferenceFidelityComponents

11 ай бұрын

@@RiderCamTV now you have me wondering if I should add one to my “fleet” 🤣 (…consisting of the RS plus spare screen and seat!). Always fancied an RT…

Sorry, got that the wrong way round... should read ABS and maybe traction control, couple of Pinot Grigio's too many!!

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

🤣

Is it hard to get insured or do insures know what an RTP is and quite normally?

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

As easy as it insuring a normal rt. the hardest thing is changing the tax class from police to civilian. Mind you that’s one form at the post office and your done ;)

Take it on tour 100%

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

might have too!

I have heard that the RTP versions have a smaller first gear. Something like a GSA. Can you conform that is true?

@RiderCamTV

4 ай бұрын

Not really noticed this at all. Rides much the same

@MIL1961

4 ай бұрын

@@RiderCamTVokay thnx

what mounting bracket did you use for your satnav please?

@RiderCamTV

10 ай бұрын

Used a hornig bracket (for the 2010-2013 rt) as all I could find with a bmw sat nav prep cradle. I then replaced this as I found the actual plastics to surround the sat nav. So I have the hirnig and Bmw prep spare and for sale ;)

@user-sb8ic3nr9j

10 ай бұрын

@@RiderCamTV thanks for the reply, how much are you looking for??

@RiderCamTV

10 ай бұрын

£90 the lot :)

Why do you grip the tank. Will the bike be going to abikething for some electrical goodies It’s a pity you can not buy these from new

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

when riding its all about control, so pressing on the pegs, gripping the tank at times and counter steering, it all goes together... doing the electrical goodies myself... eek! yep, it would be good if you could buy them from the factory like this... but having said that the ex police ex blood bikes go cheaper than the standard versions, so give great value for the money :)

@rlw85

11 ай бұрын

@@RiderCamTV I’ve never pressed down on the pegs I don’t think unless I do it not thinking about it, I sometimes counter steer but only into really tight corners.

Bought a 2018 RT1200P with 26k kms for A$15,000. No manual and I'm lost (years since I've ridden) with all the knobs and dials. Any ideas for a riders manual (dealer no help)? Very grateful for any help!

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

Have you checked inline? It’s basically a normal RT but with an extra wiring loom. That’s it

@keithcharlton6038

11 ай бұрын

Very grateful for the advice!@@RiderCamTV

We spotted a couple of boxes when Toby opened the pannier. Does Toby carry them to sniff on journeys when he starts getting some withdrawl symptoms?

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

hahahaha, hadn't thought of that.. but could have a cheeky sniff of the boxes when out and about.. that's an idea 🤣

Where did you buy the ex-police bike from Toby please?

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

From a company in York. Came from auction ;)

@stags-gr8to

11 ай бұрын

@@RiderCamTVThanks for info Toby 👍

They don't have heated seats.

@RiderCamTV

2 ай бұрын

The one I got did as it was added at factory when they ordered it

Would you consider painting it?

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

Quite like it white. What colour were you thinking?

@gazzertrn

11 ай бұрын

@@RiderCamTV Pink with yellow spots , real dandy .

@gazzertrn

11 ай бұрын

Only joking , thats a bloody cracking bike looks ok as it is .

@Elirides

11 ай бұрын

@@RiderCamTV just adding some red and blue, to give it a proper BMW look. but white is great too.

@rlw85

11 ай бұрын

Id go for a metallic burnt orange with flakes

TMF say no more.....

Admit it , your a copper wannabee Toby, get your reflective on and ride and keep the streets safe....😂😂😂👮‍♂️👮‍♂️👮‍♂️👮‍♂️🏍🏍🏍🏍 joking aside it does look nice a better with the slim panniers.enjoy your patrols.....PC Toby 👮‍♂️👮‍♂️🏍🏍🏍😁😁😁👍👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣

@RiderCamTV

11 ай бұрын

Hahahha. No fear. I have enough of that, 40 hours a week 🤣🤣🤣

I actually like the look of the rtp. Iam certainly going to buy one. They are really good value for money compared to some privately owned bikes , there appears to be some horror stories but personally think its a bit of a myth, which is all good for those of us who want to purchase one. Looking forward to more updates on your bike.👍

@beemrdon52

9 ай бұрын

The only problem is where do you put a passenger?

@RiderCamTV

9 ай бұрын

That’s the whole point. There’s no room for a passenger 🤣

@beemrdon52

9 ай бұрын

There's no room to put a passenger... I guess that would be a good excuse to get away from your SHMBO...