Blind Hockey Stick Kick Point Test ! - Does stick flex matter?
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Blind Hockey Stick Kick Point Test with Big Manufacturers. In this video In this video we vs the Bauer Supreme 2s vs Bauer Nexus 2N vs CCM Jetspeed FT2 in a blind stick test to see if you can truly feel the difference in kick point. Which is best? Let's find out! Last weeks video - • Blind performance hock...
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I would have preferred for the players to say what kick point their main stick is. Try all 3 sticks, then pick the one they like best and see if the kick point matches their main stick. I don’t particularly care to hear if the player can guess the stick brand and model. With that said. I’d love to see a blind stick tests where you guys measure shot speed. Does a different kick point really affect the shot speed that much. Or is kickpoint all feel. Let the players start with a shot from their main stick for a baseline, then the blind sticks. Also shot speed with high, mid range, and low end sticks. This could also be done with an accuracy test.
@hockeyrepairshop1469
5 жыл бұрын
Wow Adam, great thinking and awesome suggestions! Let's hope Chris and his team can dive deeper in the whole concept of kick-points!!
@AlanenJ
3 жыл бұрын
If you don't care to hear them guess the specs then you don't have to watch the video.
@ohshitwhatwasthatnoise5093
2 жыл бұрын
This is a great suggestion!
The amount of tape used could easily change the weight and feel of the stick. It won’t mess with the flex so much but definitely change how the stick would feel.
Do a blind test we’re u test older sticks like the apx2
Throw in a curveball.... two of the same sticks with itedntical spec
@Nygge1982
5 жыл бұрын
and a wooden stick
@HockeyTutorialOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Tempted to make this happen.. Would be very funny to watch them go nuts.
ya'll are killin me with those tape jobs... keep it tiiight! Savvy would be disappointed
@x.Kodokushi.x
4 жыл бұрын
Shoge Kimura 😂
You should have had the vapor not the jetspeed
@soulss617
4 жыл бұрын
yes because the og jetspeed was a high kickpoint stick
@loganokeefe9521
Жыл бұрын
Well if you want the mid kick it would be nexus but you could do the vopor or you could do the ribcore like the trigger for low kick
@josephrando2030
Жыл бұрын
@@loganokeefe9521 bro it’s been 3 years
@loganokeefe9521
Жыл бұрын
@@josephrando2030 ur still here
When Tommy said look at him cellying, because he’s never got to do it in a game before😂😂😂
You should do blink mid kick point test. Like the nexus vs true vs ccm vs what ever and see which ones they like the best
Excellent video. Very good camera work too.
With the amount of tape used will change the feel of the stick, would have been better if you just spray painted them.
@jonathanrorke1842
3 жыл бұрын
Nice ruin 350 dollar sticks😀
@evangelobotsis3171
3 жыл бұрын
Or they could just put long strips of tape up the stick instead of wrapping it around 100 times
@SlayerAustin96
3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanrorke1842 lol there's tons of people who spray paint their sticks
@AlanenJ
3 жыл бұрын
it only affects the weight by around 40 grams max, it does not majorly affect the feel of the stick.
@SlayerAustin96
3 жыл бұрын
@@AlanenJ It would change the kick point and feel of the stick when shooting and performing other skills tests. Personally I would be able to tell that weight difference right away, but that's with over 25 years of experience. There's a couple older videos of Phil Kessel and other NHL pros talking about the candy cane tape job they do and how they will tighten up the gaps if they want the kick point and feel a little stiffer. My main point was that spray paint probably would have been better to cover up the graphics. Especially if they're trying to guess between different stick brands that have different performance benefits.
I think a cool blind test concept would be tapping up JJ and Tommy’s current stick they play with and seeing if they can correctly identify their own stick!
You should do a video like this for goalies.
I'm having so much fun watching this series! Thanks for this idea!
@HockeyTutorialOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nate!
Trips me out that a couple lads from the UK have some of the absolute best Ice Hockey content on youtube
This is awesome, keep making more vids!!!
That slow mo section was so tight. Awesome editing
Seeing the different stick materials and stick building types could be really cool. For example a wooden stick vs a carbon stick, as well as the different types of manufacturing, such as 1 full piece or multiple different pieces.
It would be very interesting to use a radar gun to capture the shot speed of wrist shots, snap shots and slap shots using the different sticks in a blind test to see which truly offers the best performance for each shot type.
You should make blind test on high end stick vs low end stick
@natewilliamson9853
4 жыл бұрын
They could feel the weight difference right away...
Can you do warrior alpha DX or Qx stick vs a ccm RibCor trigger 3d?
Another banger!!!
@HockeyTutorialOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Big thanks as always Jake!
more of these please they are fun
True HT. I got to try a bunch of sticks back to back a while ago (different brands, models, kickpoints etc). I went in looking at maybe getting a ribcore or qre, but hot damn the HTs are absolute dynamite.
@HockeyTutorialOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Great stick and awesome name “HT”
Hey Chris, have you ever considered doing reviews on goalie equipment? Your product review videos are always top-notch; I just wish I could find a keeper channel of the same caliber.
@HockeyTutorialOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
We’re working on this Alan, once we zero in on the best goalie host. We’ll launch!
Great vids. I only have two thoughts...does taping a stick all the way down mess with the flex and the kick points? ...again love the vids
Top end stick vs lower end sticks
My obvious suggestion would be: same stick - different flex. Especially f.ex. a more high kick stick, where many saying it's harder to lift the puck on a wrist shot. Go intermediate to stiff
@hockeyrepairshop1469
5 жыл бұрын
Good idea Jens! We could actually find out what is more important: 1. Flex (stiffness) 2. Kick-point and even 3. Blade curve!
You should do the same blind test kick point with CCM Super Tacks AS1.
You should do either a curve blind test or a flex blind test.
Why do you guys wrap the sticks in tape horizontally instead of doing vertical strips? You’d probably use way less tape and it would take far less time...
Do this with CCM
How about looking for the difference in older models to the latest models. like Reebok ribcor (or CCM ribcor reckoner) to the CCM ribcor trigger 3d or Warrior Covert QR1 to the latest QRE. It would be awesome!
Great video
@HockeyTutorialOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
What flex and curves used on each stick ?
I would have liked to see a comparison of the puck velocity of each kick point doing slap shots. The slow moving stick handling through the legs, behind the back and flicking it top shelf at the goal line isn't much of a test. There were some wrist and snap shots in there but even those don't load the sticks as much as a slap shot so I'm still confused and need to watch another video to find out the information I came here for.
When you tape your hole stick does it feel heavier?
can you guys test out different Lys?
Can you do a blind stick test on a lower price point stick compared to top of the line stick. For example the 2x compared to the ft2
Awesome video
@HockeyTutorialOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
:D Cheers! Thank you for watching.
Nice vid
*Sees another blind stick test* “Aw sh*t, here we go again”
the original jetspeed was a high kickpoint stick so i wonder what changed. Also i think you should compare something like a bauer supreme adv and a supreme 2s pro
Next video does stick tape on the end matter
I see that Timmy and JayJay can help you out now when they are on a break from the NHL show. At least you didn't cut down on the production and picked 2 guys from the street.
do a test between ccm bauer and warrior any sticks from each company
Does anyone have experience with changing flex for the different kick points??? I have always been 85 flex mid kick I want to try a low kick and or a 75 flex... but not sure if changing drastically to a 75 low kick is too severe
Bruh just spray paint them. It’s to heavy with tape
Do diffent cuves of the blades like a bauer p29 vs p92
@natewilliamson9853
4 жыл бұрын
Those are the same curve, just from different manufactures.
Chris can you dive deeper into the fact that JJ wrongly described the Bauer Supreme 2S Pro (the hallmark of so called "High-kick point sticks" as a "low-kick stick"? How is that even possible? I can't wait to hear your thoughts on this. Best, Miha
you should do it with all 3 ccm sticks
You the best I love you your the best hockey coach! I think you should do blind skate test.
@HockeyTutorialOfficial
4 жыл бұрын
Not a coach but thank you so much for such an awesome comment
@mathieumiller9831
4 жыл бұрын
@@HockeyTutorialOfficial you did so e skating drills I thought lol! But even if your still the best youtuber on the face of the planet!!!😀😀😀😀😀
@mathieumiller9831
4 жыл бұрын
Some lol
My predictions after the first try out. Green is the ccm blue is the 2s and the pink obviously the 2n
Do a video about the flylite and the ft2
@HockeyTutorialOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Done deal!
Blind test modern wooden sticks that trying be like composite sicks!
@innercityprepper
5 жыл бұрын
unless they manage to put some lead strips inside the tape it'll be pretty easy to guess which one is the wood stick.
Do 2 off brand like Carbon One and panther and one CCM or Bauer and see what the difference they think is
Oh no is Tommy’s hamstring ok?!
Warrior aplha dx and warrior fantom qre
Blind stick test with curves
Do goalie stick blind test
Blind testing on the bardownski, no name and all black sticks.
Main question, how are you supposed to "test" out a stick before trying?
Doesn’t matter the brand. What’s important is the performance. Priorities boys
Old true xc9 acf and new true xc9 acf
@HockeyTutorialOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the 100th time this has been requested. DONE! We'll work on it. Give us around around a week.
@eetu04
5 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Thank you
@zxnoh7912
5 жыл бұрын
ayye
I can absolutely tell the difference between the Warrior covert and the dynasty at the same flex
Bauer vapor vs ccm ribcore
Test helmet protection (top brands)
Should have put a warrior qre in there rather than the jetspeed. It’s rather easy to identify even without markings but the kick is lower than anything else I’ve ever had (Bauer nexus, Bauer vapor, warrior dynasty(shame those were discontinued) and ccm rbz(remember those))
@hockeyrepairshop1469
5 жыл бұрын
Owen how exactly can you tell the kick-point? From feeling, from the speed of the shot? I would reeeealy like to understand it!!
do you have any suggestions for heavy defensemen that only hammer pucks into the goalie hands?
@zxnoh7912
5 жыл бұрын
id say go for the 2s pro (supreme) or the Super tacks AS1. AS1 has a stiffer blade btw
@zxnoh7912
5 жыл бұрын
@@yad1937 because thats the stick that offers the most power from CCM.
@alexrodgers950
5 жыл бұрын
youre not wrong about the accuracy part, but he isn't wrong about the power. when they discontinued the rbz and made the jetspeed, they changed the "accuracy" to "power" to market it too defenceman. But I personally still think it's an accuracy stick, and I think the jetspeed gets more power because of the hybrid kickpoint. They advertised the jetspeed as a dangler and sniper stick, it has amazing blade feel, but that's why so many d man use it cause of the power. They had McDavid use it in ads, even though he uses a gen1 super tacks, and they really went all in with Tavares using it. so it really all comes down to preference
@hockeyrepairshop1469
5 жыл бұрын
@@alexrodgers950 wow, how come you know so much about the sticks? So are you saying the Jetspeed gives more power or they only market it as such? Can you explain in more detail (feelings, results) of "hybrid" kickpoint? Do you actually understand the concept? Hybrid would mean differet things mixed into a new thing, but I doubt anything like this is even technologically possible. What do you think?
Wood stick from the 80s vs a newer stick
Next blind test use warrior sticks
Sorry new hockey player here what is kick point?
Bauer flylite vs bauer 2 x pro vs 1 x lite
Ccm has two low kick point sticks ribcor and jetspeed
@HockeyTutorialOfficial
3 жыл бұрын
Jet speed is hybrid kick. Not low.
Use all the true sticks
i’m honestly not surprised that he thought the 2s was a panther or whatever, because i’ve always used high kicks and when i got a 2s it doesn’t feel like a good stick, plus it takes 2 months to get used to, it’s so weird
@hockeyrepairshop1469
5 жыл бұрын
Chary what do you mean by "doesn't feel like a good stick"? What is "wrong" with the 2S? Now if you remember correctly not only did J not giess correctly about the 2S stick, he even thought it was a low-kick stick!! How is that even possible?
Where are these guys from? Just a curious Canadian wondering where these accents come from? Hockey is life
@HockeyTutorialOfficial
4 жыл бұрын
We're British :)
missed three out of the four sticks everyone wants to see, the vapor, ccm ribcore, and the warrior fantom 👇🏼 for him to do a video on these
Why are there so many backhanded shots
I don't like any Bauer sticks. CCM all the way for the way I play.
3 same sticks
Do we now know if the kick matters? Man the 3 of them aren‘t the brightest candles on the cake.
Why is everyone shooting top cheese in this video
Shouldn’t leave out Warrior
NHL guys use re skinned sticks so kick points must make some difference
I would have picked the pink stick not even knowing whar it was
"I reckon assa..."
Trigger 3D vs Ultra Tacks stick
would've been cooler with spray paint
jays chin be like I mi head out /.,mnbvcx
So.. no low kick
If it was nixus, it'd be spelled nixus. But it's Nex us. Nexus
@trentwhitman2238
4 жыл бұрын
It's just their accent dude
Um sorry but the 2s I believe has a mid
@leebee4iyt340
2 жыл бұрын
Or not idrk
Alex Galchenyuk is going to look pretty good in black and gold Sorry to see Phil go though
If they could put the old X60 blades on the Nexus, it would be a perfect stick. I love the way it shoots but for whatever reason, I can't stick handle or pass well with them. The blades feel terrible. Actually, all the "top of the line" sticks are terrible now. They are WAY too light. Anyone that really plays and understands what you need out of your stick knows that you don't want these sticks as light as they are. Almost everyone I know that used top tier sticks has gotten worse. And pros don't even use them. I get a lot of pro stock sticks and none are as light as some of these newer ones. They are always like 1 or 2 down from the top with the top's paint job. I guess I can't speak for everyone. Just the pros and people I know.
was this video about testing different sticks or showcasing the wonderful talents, I don't see how what they were doing was testing the sticks for kick point...just a bunch of messing around...this video is beyond useless
sponsored by ccm......please compare two different brands
@HockeyTutorialOfficial
5 жыл бұрын
Lol!!! Yeah ok.
Don’t tape the whole thing it’s changes the weight so much
@stpbasss3773
5 жыл бұрын
Someone says this every video and he has weighed them without and with the tape and it's not even close to as much weight as you guys seem to think lmao.
he’s english he doesnt know hockey very well