As an enthusiast of retro gaming, I really enjoy these historical pieces. Your treatment of the subject is great and the production is top notch. The advertising was a big part of video gaming culture back in those days and seeing the old ads and hearing the story again so well presented really appeals to my love of retro gaming nostalgia. Good show! - looking forward to further installments.

@Jenovi

6 жыл бұрын

+Realm Chat thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and for checking out this new series.

It is pretty clear in the 90s for the price point Sega offered the better system in terms of hardware and its compatibility with modern trends in gaming even several years after it was launched. Which is probably why the Genesis held up so well as most cartridges were just roms

Back watching 6 years later and was shocked you hear my own voice in this lol. Still a great video, Jenovi. Really holds up.

Holy crap! Random appearance by Paul Rudd at 4:26.

@RazorEdge2006

6 жыл бұрын

Paul Rudd was doing Nintendo commercials before he went on to Friends and Ant-Man.

Cool man... i love an underdog channel like this one.

@Jenovi

6 жыл бұрын

+Order Of Magnitude - The Paranormal & Personal thanks, I appreciate that.

I'll never remember all that but very interesting

Awesome video! I really liked it. 👍

@Jenovi

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out and for leaving feed back. It's much appreciated.

Very good video. Finally people are starting to state the important details about the Genesis' specs. A lot of people just use this sheet with sprite sizes and screen resolutions and so on, and compare that. Unfortunately, doing that is very misleading because that's basically only on paper specs, and each of the SNES' features has some sort of limitation to it. For example, you could only reach 128 sprites on screen on SNES if sprite sizes are 8x8, and if each sprite were the same one being reused, whereas on Genesis, it can always reach its limit of 80 sprites and it can even use unique sprites, not having to always be the same one. To use 512x448 mode on SNES, it requires much processing power, and can only display 16 colors total on screen in that mode, and furthermore, it only affects backgrounds, so sprites are stretched to compensate. On Genesis, it goes to 320x448, but even though it isn't quite as big horizontally, it's still able to display the normal 64 colors (or more with shadow/highlight mode) onscreen, and the hit to performance isn't nearly as bad as on SNES. To know exactly how capable each system is, you have to go into the deeper details like this, and fortunately, there are accurate comparisons of the two readily available.

Great job as usual man!

I recognized dungeon explorer 2 music in the video

Nice prologue. Looking forward to the series.

@Jenovi

6 жыл бұрын

+Martin Sutcliffe thanks! The first one is up, part III should be out in 1-3 weeks.

God damn you 418 subscribers. Good job your video quality is better 😁

@Jenovi

6 жыл бұрын

Thank! Always appreciate the feedback form a long time subscriber.

Hey man. Neat video. I particularly appreciate the side by side comparison of CPU, data bus, & what nots. But the video capabilities of the Genesis is ... murky. Especially when comparing to the Super NES. The SNES was created with Audio & Video in mind. (In particular, something that made the Genesis look & sound ancient.) So right out of the box, the SNES GPU & APU had more bells & whistles going for them; but the slow CPU & data bus meant even launch titles like Pilotwing & Super Mario Kart needed an on-cart-co-processor (the DSP-1) to run things smoothly. By comparison, the Genesis GPU didn't have as many features. (And some of the features it DID have, like blending modes weren't very well known.) But the faster CPU & data access meant things like scaling & rotation could be calculated & "rendered" via software and sent off to the GPU to be shown on screen. As to how far the CPU rendered 3D can be pushed, there's a homebrew port of Wolfenstein 3D that runs on a stock Genesis. (Hell, there's a homebrew demo of Starfox. It's not a full game, and it couldn't run a full game, but still.) Mind you, both of the consoles relied heavily on DMA & HDMA. DMA basically meant chunks of data would be copied from the system RAM to video RAM in between the time when frames were being drawn on the TV screen. HDMA (Horizontal-interrupt/blank DMA) copied data to video RAM, or modified registers, between the time when individual lines were being drawn on the TV screen. Reference: emu-docs.org/Super%20NES/General/snesdoc.html emudocs.org/Genesis/Graphics/genvdp.txt kzread.info/dash/bejne/aapotduQg8_UeqQ.html - Wolfenstein 3D kzread.info/dash/bejne/h6mNqM-CddeyfM4.html - Starfox Demo

@Jenovi

6 жыл бұрын

+Saad Azim thats a fantastic post, I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Honestly both have amazing games and that’s really where it starts and stops for me, great games. Even so, the tech side it so fascinating to me.

@SaadAzim

6 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. I'm something of a hardware enthusiast myself. And yeah, good games are good games, regardless of consoles.

@buckroger6456

5 жыл бұрын

When it comes to hardware specs I always felt that is a little unfair. Genesis came out in 89 an snes in 91. So the snes should have better specs.

@NYCJoeBlack

5 жыл бұрын

Buck Roger - With the exception of the CPU and maybe the screen ratio output in that the Sega Genesis can output games at 512X(something?) resolution, the specs for the Super Nintendo trump the Sega Genesis.

@NYCJoeBlack

3 жыл бұрын

@@pferreira1983 You know that is not the case.

Nicely done, directly subscriped, hoping for more content in the future!

@Jenovi

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I hope you enjoy what I have in the pipeline.

I know this video is old and all, but if anyone was wondering why the SNES has a CPU processor like that is because originally, the Super Nintendo was going to be backwards compatible NES games. If I'm not mistaken, you would need some sort of peripheral to put on top of the SNES just like the Genesis/Mega Drive to play Master system games. The only issue with that was that it would've increased the price of the SNES by quite alot and Nintendo is known for not wanting to sell expensive hardware; especially at a loss like Sega and others had a habit of doing. And by the time Nintendo realized it, it was too late to incorporate a faster CPU processor(I mean they could've, that only would've meant delaying the system for another year and they would've lost a ton of market share by that point). So in Nintendo's case it was like this; either A) delay the system for another year to incorporate a powerful CPU, only to lose market dominance and influence. Or B) release the system as it is and work with what you have, doing the best you can working with and around the limitations. Obviously the ladder was chosen in this case. Probably for the best.

I really enjoy all your videos especially when it’s about Sega as I grew up with sega so thanks J

It would be cool if this series covered the VCD expansion thingamajig for the Saturn.

@Jenovi

6 жыл бұрын

+ThePreciseClimber the Saturn will have a fairly meaty episode, but it’s a while out. End of the year if things go smooth. The VCD will be mentioned although I’m unsure as to the depth at this point.

@buckroger6456

5 жыл бұрын

Check out Sega load X. He's covers a lot of Saturn games an hardware. Also did a piece on the vdm card

Discovered your channel this evening very cool channel, thanks for making the videos

@Jenovi

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching, and thank you for the kind comment.

Well, the Genesis is actually more powerful than the SNES. The mega drive has more data processing, the superscaler engine can scale everything, rather the SNES' mode 7 that just can scale backgrounds. The Mega Dive also it has the capability to render the same number of 3d polygons as the SNES with the help of the Super FX. Even because the Motorola 68000 CPU, the Genesis is an 16 bit and 32 bit hybrid system, like the master system was an 8 bit an 16 bit hybrid; the SNES in the other hand it's more 16 bit. I hope this helps you and clarifies some things

@NYCJoeBlack

5 жыл бұрын

lucas sosa - If this is true, how come in Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Heist, you cannot throw the enemies at the screen like you could in the Super Nintendo version?

@avideogamemaster

3 жыл бұрын

@@NYCJoeBlack Because its not the console who makes the game, its real people

@NYCJoeBlack

3 жыл бұрын

@@avideogamemaster - I suppose, however it is the console that places some limits on what a developer can or cannot do. If the system does not support the feature or simply cannot, then it is due to the limitation of the console. If it is possible whether easy or complicated and said feature isn’t included, then it lies on the developers ability or lack of desire to include said feature.

great work love this video

I always forget about the Paul Rudd SNES commercial. Every time I see it, I'm like "That's Paul Rudd in a Super NIntendo commercial! Oh yeah..." Kinda like Jack Black in the Pitfall commercial. Except you don't see that one very often. Not that you see the Paul Rudd commercial that often... never mind.

@retroprojections

4 жыл бұрын

Or Tobey Maguire in the Atari Lynx commercial.

I have that EGM! That little nintendo advertising sub-part is full of hilarious marketing bullshit.

@Jenovi

5 жыл бұрын

Ha! Yeah, it's quite wild.

i just learn a few thing today .. thank!

@Jenovi

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

New viewer here. Love the trip down history lane!

@Jenovi

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking out my small channel.

Subscribed!

I'm a SNES fan but it's interesting to see how both companies duked it out in the 90s. I appreciate the Genesis but I have to give props to the SNES for despite the specs showing it as the weaker console it still created an incredible library of games.

There's something I disagree about the argument that the Mega Drive can also do scaling, strechting, etc... It's technically true, but it needs to sacrifice a lot of CPU power to do that, hence why the effect was not used in a lot of games. A lot of these special effects on the Mega Drive are kept for special stages or even cutscenes for a reason I still think Nintendo should have used a better CPU, but, overall, the special effects it has it can use it better than the Mega Drive and, more importantly, it doesn't take resources away from the CPU. The perspective effect used in games like F-Zero (which has no special chips inside), and Pilotwings and Super Mario Kart (which both have DSP chips) uses the CPU together with horizontal interrupts, because it isn't something the hardware was designed to do, so it's in fact a CPU-driven effect added to a capability of the graphical chip. Which is to say, the SNES obviously can do some cool effects by clever programming Both systems have special effects in many games, but the Mega Drive tends to do better with the effects the Super Nintendo doesn't have natively. I notice this especially in Traveller Tales game which have vastly inferior versions on the SNES. In the Game Hut channel here in KZread, TT's programmer talks about the old tricks he used to make the Mega Drive do awesome stuff it normally can't, but it's usually only used for a single moment Toy Story is a great example: the Mega Drive can show more than 64 colors, but it has to setup everything just right to make it work, thus, it isn't used for gameplay. It can play Amiga mod files completely driven by the CPU, but it's only used for the intro screen. Whereas the SNES can have more colors on screen and play samples in most situations without having to sacrifice any CPU power

@Jenovi

5 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed the post. Thank you for sharing.

Well done, man. Only minor criticism: I'd recommend slowing down some of the transitions in your next parts for the series. Some of the game covers at the 3 minute mark are disorienting because they move too quickly. Either way, looking forward to the next parts to the series.

@Jenovi

6 жыл бұрын

+Taylor Almond yeah, I knew I should have slowed that down darn it, I was in high debate with myself last night. Thanks for checking it out and leaving feedback. I can’t wait to share the next part.

The neo geo was really a next gen megadrive and the snes was really an 8-bit console on drugs.

@Jenovi

4 жыл бұрын

The Neo Geo is a great system.

8:50 Does this game have polygons on the walls?

@Jenovi

5 жыл бұрын

I believe its a fancy texture mapping technique. Game Hut covers how a lot of Genesis tricks were pulled off. It's a channel that I highly recommend checking out.

@jacklazzaro9820

5 жыл бұрын

Found it, got it, understand it, I think.

07:20 what music is that?? I recognize it but i dont know from where.... Another awesome video as always ;)

@Jenovi

6 жыл бұрын

No clue what the song is called, but I ripped from Dungeon Explorer II on the Turbo Grafx 16. It's track 7 in my library.

@LuisMendesSegaFanBoy

6 жыл бұрын

Jenovi haaaaaaa yes the dungeon theme i knew i heard that somewhere ;)

you also forgot I/O being input & output.

So, just to be clear, when Sega advertised "Mega" carts, they're talking about megabytes, right? Because a 1 mb cartridge would be nothing. It's just weird because standard back then was to report cart sizes in megabits. Also, easy conversion from kilo/mega/giga/whatever bits to bytes, just divide by 8.

@Jenovi

5 жыл бұрын

Megabits. They were trying to make the games sound much larger than they in fact were. It was a cleaver marketing tactic that worked by using confusion to find success.

You could do a shitload on the megadrive with enough memory and good programming, the genesis itself is capable of FMV for example, the reason you needed the sega CD to use it was due to cartridge memory limitations.

The genesis still my favorite game console. The bits war still rages on. You now have PlayStation an xbox. Keep up the retro reviews. Always like to see more genesis, Sega CD, an 32x. Although the poor 32x was never giving a chance. Games got rushed out or cancelled.

@Jenovi

5 жыл бұрын

Slowly working on more 32X reviews. Tempo should be next.

I miss the days where the companies told us who was better

🤯

18:35 The Genesis channel 6 in pcm mode can only output up to 8bit 33Khz samples (on par with the snes) however, that stuff about a better signal to noise ratio seems suspect and if you take the time to check, SNES has only 64KB audio ram and as such 33Khz is unlikely ever achieved and it's worth noting SNES samples are only 4bits (expanded to 15bit using adpcm codec with uses 4 point gaussian interpolation).. The Genesis FM outputs at 56Khz.

i always wanted to know what that "twice the mega power" BS on the Mastersystem boxes meant.

Hi, where is part 2?

@Jenovi

5 жыл бұрын

Currently, there are 4 videos in this series. kzread.info/head/PLwz8oWun2YRFioED-C_XU-VgR9Qku-4Kb

"Doom" and "Star Fox" are abominations for SNES.

@manictiger

5 жыл бұрын

What, you don't like trying to play a combat flight sim at 10 frames a second?

I remember back in that time the thing that really stood out between the SNES and the Genesis was that SNES had a larger color palette. They could display 256 colors on screen at the same time whereas Genesis could do 64. This was a limitation that was identical with the Amiga computer and the IBM PC at the time. They were both bad ass consoles back when they came out.

@Jenovi

5 жыл бұрын

The Genesis lack of color is the main reason most SNES games look terrible when ported over.

Jov 👍👍👍👍👍

I like the video in a lot of ways but it comes across as a bit of a Sega fan boy style rather than objective. I grew up with both and loved each one there is no need to say one is or was better they where both good in there own way keep up the good work

Thank you for bringing out arguments I've made for a long time! If you compare the actual consoles, the Genesis was capable of much better graphics than the SNES. A lot of people just don't realize it because the SNES games used extra chips to do things that the console itself wasn't capable of! Red zone on Genesis, which you had brief footage of, did things that could have never been done on a SNES, and did it with no extra chips. They both had great games, but in terms of graphics, the Genesis won hands down

@Jenovi

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking this video out and for the great comment!

@buckroger6456

5 жыл бұрын

That's also the reason why snes games were always 10-20 dollars more then a genesis game.

scaling rotation on genesis where when?

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You forgot something...the Genesis had that beautiful Zilog Z-80 co-processor that enabled them to push games like Thunder Force IV. I have said this for years the Genesis can do things the Snes cannot with pure brute force. The Nintendo fanboys will argue with you until your blue in the face in the end...I was right. What they fail to realize is l am a hardware guy. I know my stuff pretty well and I know that the Snes was modular for a reason. Now, had Nintendo went with their original idea and slapped a Motorola 68000 microprocessors into the Snes instead of what they went with...this discussion wouod be cery different. For reference- I build Super Guns from scratch and refurbish arcade cabs for our home arcade. I am very partial to both the Sega Genesis and Neo Geo AES as they share similiar architecture.

@Jenovi

5 жыл бұрын

Super Guns from scratch? Sounds awesome!

@Sinn0100

5 жыл бұрын

@@Jenovi I truly love making them and I am seriously the luckiest guy because my fiance is a gamer like me. She is learning how to make her own super gun as well. We are really turning our house into a retro arcade. I have cabinets in our livingroom leading to our spare bedroom that is dedicated to older consoles complete with a huge Sega corner. We are also converting our two car garage into a workshop for resurrecting arcade cabinets.

The 90's console wars. Maybe the biggest cancer of gaming. So many people never regained their sanity

The bit comparing the specs is a bit... misleading. Sound quality is dependent on far, far more than just sampling rate, for instance. The CPU being higher clocked also isn't as much of an advantage as it seems because the IPC was in many workloads was lower. Keyword being many, not all. In addition, it can't increase its color palette. There are tricks to use more colors at a time out of the palette, but the SNES had similar tricks(FF6 uses them, for instance). IIRC, Sonic 1+2+3 use one or two. Sega CD made it a bit easier to do that, incidentally. Here's some more information: www.sega-16.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-26085.html

@RazorEdge2006

6 жыл бұрын

Saying "better" sound quality is indeed misleading. It would've been more accurate to say "sharper" sound quality, which is what you get from a higher sampling rate. Both the SNES and Mega Drive had their advantages and disadvantages when it came to sound capabilities. Sega's 68000 CPU was undoubtedly faster than Nintendo's Ricoh CPU. But it wasn't because of the clock rate, since the Ricoh could do more instructions per clock. The 68000's faster speed came from other advantages. For example, it has 32-bit internal data bus and 16-bit external data bus, whereas the Ricoh has 16-bit internal data bus and 8-bit external data bus, giving the 68000 a higher bandwidth. The 68000 also had more ALUs, allowing it to perform faster arithmetic calculations. It was advantages like these that made the 68000 faster, not necessarily the clock rate. The Sega Mega Drive has a shadow/highlight mode that can triple its colour palette. But even with shadow/highlight and other tricks, the SNES still has a clear advantage over the Mega Drive when it comes to colour capabilities.

Only if SEGA would make a comeback in today’s gaming world I bet it would be more competitive than Microsoft to compete with Sony , please make a comeback we need SEGA.

Growing up in the 80s and 90s, I didn't care about the bits. I enjoyed a NES, Genesis and SNES all at the same time. Each system boasted games that were fun and had epic music, which I recorded on cassette tapes and listened to for many many years. I couldn't stand radio music like Korn, ACDC, Metallica etc... garbage shit music. Movies too. Batman, Batman Returns, Cable Guy, I seriously HATED mainstream media, and by media I mean music, movies and TV. Video Games all the way, regardless of what the bits were!

@Jenovi

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

The music, colors, and resolutions were better on the SNES, nobody can deny that genesis games were fast action and cool. Sega was for young adults and Nintendo was for little kids. Then Sony stole both and became #1. BLAST PROCESSING! SEGA! DOES WHAT NINTENDON'T!

jaja but the sonic games was aiming at children that game sold millions was not a game for adults

I do like Nintendo consoles, but I just can't but love the Mega Drive.

@Jenovi

5 жыл бұрын

I without a doubt have a preference for​ Sega, but I love most of the systems released and feel very few don't bring something positive to the table.

Like the vid but it is quite Sega centric. While both system were phenomenal they each had there draw back and strengths. Oh why is it a draw back that SNES used add on chips, it seems like a good idea to me. Maybe am missing something since i came to video games later in life, mostly do to economics. I started with PS3 Wii and X360 and worked my way back. I now own all major home console realizes from 8 bit era to day. But due to this reason i don't understand all the bias so many have one way or the other

@Jenovi

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking this out. Be forewarned, this video is part of an ongoing series that looks at history from a very Sega centric perspective. It's mainly due to most Nintendo stories being beat to death while a number of Sega stories remain untold. For my part, I love all these systems and really only have a distaste for the V-smile, Casio Loopy and like consoles. Back to the question. Using the onboard chips isn't really an issue, Sega even has one game (Virtua Racing) that did this. The point more or less is about the hardware capabilities and how marketing was used to twist reality. Anyways, I would never give up my SNES and believe both systems to be Must own consoles for any game enthusiast.I actually grew up owning the Genesis and my brother owned the SNES, Both got played a lot. If you continue on in the Series, you'll find there really isn't much discussion beyond this video comparing Nintendo to Sega outside of some sales figures. Thanks for the comment -Jenovi

@LakeHowellDigitalVideo

5 жыл бұрын

It was a drawback because SNES cartridges were a lot more expensive back then. Super FX based cartridge usually were retailing between $60 to $70 in 1993 dollars..... Which adjusting for inflation in today's dollars would be a retail price of about $120. There were no Genesis games that retailed for more than $50 at the time (the one exception being the Genesis version of Virtua Racing).

Well the Genesis had a faster cpu 🤷‍♂️

@akeem2983

6 ай бұрын

Despite Sega Genesis being slightly older (Japanese release of Sega Mega Drive was in the end of 1988, while Japanese release of Nintendo Super Famicom was in the end of 1990), both systems were mostly on par with each other. But it still were times when different computers and consoles had drastic differences from each other. For example, Sega Genesis's processor architecture made its programming much easier, back then games were often programmed using assembly languages so this parameter was very important. Even modern enthusiasts that are trying to push old hardware to its limits had much, much more impressive results with Sega Genesis than with Super Nintendo, because programming weird stuff on SNES is harder

i'm a sega fan but snes destroyed sg

Dithering looks like crap, and the restriction on colors made genesis games look washed out.

The super Nintendo`s sound chip is way better then the Genesis sound chip. Comparing sampling rate is not an indication of Sega Genesis having a superior sound chip. The SNES had more sound channels and far higher MHZ count then the Sega Genesis Sound Chip. The SNES sound chip was also in some ways better then the Neo Geo AES sound chip. And i own the SNES, Genesis and the Neo Geo Aes. While thee Genesis had faster Ram, faster CPU and faster DMA transfer rates which allowed the Genesis to replicate some of the effects that SNES can do in Software, But the fact that the SNES can do those effects in hardware free`s up the CPU, ram and DMA to do other task. The SNES and Genesis had certain advantages over each other. The SNES had the advantage in colors, Transparencies and sound. The Genesis had the advantage in faster games, smoother frame rates and far less slow down when theirs numerous characters on screen. Neither console was more powerful then the other in every category.

@RazorEdge2006

6 жыл бұрын

Not true about the sound chips. The Sega Mega Drive has more audio channels and its sound chips have higher clock rates: -The Mega Drive has 10 sound channels, from 2 sound chips (6 on the Yamaha YM2612, and 4 on the PSG). Whereas the SNES has 8 channels, from a single sound chip. -The Mega Drive's YM2612 is clocked at 7.7 MHz and its PSG is clocked at 3.6 MHz . Whereas the SNES sound chip is clocked at 3 MHz. You may be confusing the sound chip's clock rate with the system's master clock rate, which is higher on the Mega Drive (53 MHz) than the SNES (24 MHz). The SNES sound chip does have other advantages over the Mega Drive's sound chips. But the Mega Drive has more sound channels and higher clock rates. As for the Neo Geo, its sound chip is superior to both the SNES and Mega Drive sound chips in virtually every way.

@CommodoreKulor

5 жыл бұрын

Interesting thing to note about the Neo Geo, its soundchip actually isn't as amazing as many might assume. By far the biggest advantage the Neo Geo had was not being limited in cartridge size, and that advantage helps tremendously with sound as well. On the Neo Geo, you get 4 FM channels which are basically identical to the Genesis' FM channels. You also get 3 PSG + 1 noise channel, comparable (but not identical) to the PSG capabilities of the Genesis. You then get 7 ADPCM channels, which ara able to play samples somewhat like the SNES. Here's the catch about the ADPCM channels though: 6 of them are locked to 18.5khz. The reason for this is those 6 channels are derived from the YM2608's Rhythm Sound Source, which was used for playing ROM drum sounds. That means that, while you could play any sample of whatever you want, it's completely impossible to change the pitch of that sample, and thus those 6 channels are almost entirely useless for tonal parts. But that's where the Neo Geo's massive cartridges come in! If you have several samples, one for each different pitch of each instrument, then you can fake having different pitches of the same instrument, at the expense of lots of extra ROM space. This would have been a massive, crippling limitation on a home console like the Genesis or SNES, but on the Neo Geo it works because they didn't have to be concerned about cartridge size. Even then, those 6 channels are pretty limited compared to what the SNES can do with samples, as they're still locked to an 18.5khz output rate, which is nearly half what the SNES can push. The panning is also limited to hard left, hard right, or center, which is far less flexible than the SNES' smooth panning capabilities (and this applies to the 7th ADPCM channel as well).

@LakeHowellDigitalVideo

5 жыл бұрын

Sound is completely subjective. I'd rather listen to the Yamaha YM2612 in games like Streets of Rage versus the muffled, compressed samples of most of the Super Nintendo library. With a great composer like Hiroshi Kawaguchi on a game, I think the Genesis usually offered better music. It was shovelware from developers like Accolade is why the Genesis has a mixed reputation for music.

@PPHDocumentaries

3 жыл бұрын

​@@pferreira1983 The SNES sound is not only better then the Sega Genesis sound in my opinion, but its also better then the Neo Geo sound chip which has a more powerful version of the Yamaha sound board found in the Genesis. I was playing my modded Neo Geo AES one time which was modded to use component cables, then i turned on my Super Nes which used S-video cables which gives inferior sound and picture quality then Component, but yet the SNES sound still sounded better. I own the Turbo Graf-x, Genesis, SNES and Neo. But the Genesis has the worst sound quality of them all; while the SNES have the best sound quality of them all in my opinion. Any crap quality techno sound you hear on the SNES has to do with the developer lack of skill at utilizing the SNES sound chip properly. Just like the Genesis is not known for having all that great orchestral sounds, but its capable of having that if the sound chip is handled by the right hands. Or if your playing or viewing the SNES game that`s using a emulator, its possible that the emulator is not emulating the sound properly.

@RazorEdge2006

3 жыл бұрын

@@PPHDocumentaries The Yamaha YM2610 (Neo Geo chip) predates the YM2612 (Mega Drive chip). The YM2612 is a cheaper cut-down version of the YM2610. The YM2610 is technically superior to the Sony SPC700 (SNES chip) in virtually every way. While the SPC has 8 PCM channels, the YM2610 has 14 channels, including 4 FM channels, 7 PCM channels and 3 SSG channels. The Neo Geo can also access much more sound memory, so its PCM samples aren't so compressed on the Neo Geo, whereas the SNES has heavily compressed PCM samples resulting in its distinctive muffled sound. Just compare any Neo Geo game to its SNES conversion, and the difference is like night and day. The SNES versions always sound downgraded compared to the Neo Geo originals.

All of Sega's smack talk couldn't save them from their real enemy though: Themselves.

Lol ~ no 'non~binary' here.... trigger alert to SJWs. Please leave retro gaming alone ~ its my only sanctuary from such madness. Many thanks

Nintendo Snes wins!!! With good graphics chip built in, and all special chip graphics games trick.lol

@StaticTV80

4 жыл бұрын

Snes is gay

leave a positive or negative comment and my thoughts? ok. already enjoyed this video when you first posted it but after now watching it again i realized thanks for not saying "ReTrO" throughout the documentary. my hell, you cant find a damn thing you enjoy, especially VideoGames, without that stupid unnecessary word attached to it. hey look, i use a toaster for my bread and shit in a flushing toilet, so rEtRo. hey look, i wear a ReTrO hat, tie my shoe with ReTrO laces and use a rEtrO gass powered lawnmower. ffs. how about hey look the console STILL reads Genesis on top since the day i bought it and the box of the game STILL reads Elemental Master since i've been playing it. i dont see the f**kin word "retro" magically appearing. its the same awesome game & console and will be the same tomorrow. people of the internet, in the name of all that is holy please stop with the tacking on some unnecessary stupid trendy word to whatever it is people have always enjoyed. its i play frisbee as the park and like to play chess, NOT i play rEtRo chess and ReTrO frisbee. ffs, knock it off, its just called VideoGames.