I've been known to call this my fave album of all time by anybody - great tour of it, Phil!

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Hi Martin, thank you for watching. It certainly is an epic album and my favourite Black Sabbath album alternates between this and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. I would say at the moment it is Sabotage. It is certainly the most played. Phil :)

In agreeance Phil, sabbath needs to lift its game when it comes to giving fans value for money.

I will here during the premier. This is quite a long one for me so I hope you like it. Thank you for watching and your support. Phil

Hi great review. I was really going to take a hard pass on this set basically because the sound quality on my original Canadian Warner bros press and UK original Nems press are really fantastic. I also have two vinyl bootlegs of the very same live show which sound really great. As for the 7" single I have one that came with the BMG boxset Supersonic years. So I was really gonna pass this one by. I ended up with the cd version first and I was actually quite surprised by the sound of the remastering. But honestly I was more happy to have the tour program and book. Then I got the Vinyl copy of the boxset. I couldn't believe the difference in the quality of the over all packaging. The album sleeves to the booklets and and tour program and man they did a terrific replica of the 7" single. I was pleasantly surprised by the vinyl copy. So if anyone is reading these comments and maybe considering this boxset, the vinyl version is far superior to the cd version

I have the 96 and 2009 don't own a turntable at the moment so the 96 will have to do Thanks for the review ❤

Hello Mr. Aston. What a review!! Well done, in my opinion, very honest and very easy to follow. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Keep on rocking.

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jorge, thank you for watching and your words of encouragement, they mean a lot. I love this album and feel I need to talk from the heart as a growing number of people are watching these videos now. This ended up being a longer video than normal but I am so pleased music fans have found it useful. If any record labels stumble across it I hope it makes them think… even if it is just a little! Phil :)

@robertcarli5803

2 жыл бұрын

if there's a super deluxe box set of sabbath bloody sabbath of course the live material is going to be a "remaster/mix" of CAL JAM . what else - "road to pittsburgh 74" bootleg ?

There was a japanese 45 with Am I Going Insane (Radio) bw Hole In The Sky released in 1975. Released on Vertigo SFL-2060

Great video. Thanks for sharing your insight. I bought Sabotage when it first came out in September 1975. After a few listens, it was my favorite album. Almost 50 years later it's still my favorite album. BTW - I also own numerous Sabotage remix versions and the behemoth Super Deluxe Box - both CD and vinyl.

Thanks Phil… Right on for your superb overall choice with… selecting the vinyl record of Black Sabbath’s Sabotage ! ❤😎🎸

@scarborosasquatchstation1403

Жыл бұрын

Why is there no live soundboard quality recording of a correct time period concert… with live footage of the songs from Sabotage ? Give the fans the best that you can, especially after supporting different formats over the years….! 💰💵🚧

Great review and attention to detail Phil. I always favour the sound of VOL 4 on my vinyl from the seventies. Compression being the curse of some CD reproductions. They just don’t capture what Sabbath were about at that time. The thick , heavy primordial mix that comes through on Sabbath vinyl.

Great, honest review. I bought the vinyl version. So hard to say what sounds best, unless you have all different versions to compare. These deluxe box sets should be the best of everything, especially for their price point. I just hope that effort is being made by these bands.

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, thank you for watching. From the CD perspective this one is not better than the original vinyl version. The other Black Sabbath Deluxe editions are excellent. Phil

Great review, great explanation! I love Black Sabbath. Here in Brazil they are so many fans! And "Sabbotage" is a great álbum. Thanks!👏👏👏

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi William, thank you for watching and finding me from Brazil! I am really pleased you found this useful. Sabotage is such a killer album, every track is on point - rock on Phil :)

Cool review. The Sabotage box was a bit disappointing but I never had the live 1975 stuff so I was happy to get that. I wanted to mention that there is a 1975 Japanese single release of Am I Going Insane/Hole in the Sky listed on Discogs with identical artwork to CD 4 of the box set.

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Barry, thank you for watching and also pouting out the single did exist. As you say they probably did not have the material to draw upon. The price point should have been cheaper to reflect this. I will be going for the Technical Ecstasy box as well ! Phil

IT's one of the greatest ALBUM COVERS I have ever seen. But people who who didn't grow up with Sabbath don't "get it". The cover is so Sabbath it's just perfect. And you are absolutely correct with the original UK LP press on N.E.M.S. just crushes those CD's you have shown, I own all three of the CD's versions you discussed and I own the original UK LP press and first U.S. Warner Brothers Lp press. Either of the NEMS (my favorite) or WB press on LP is the only way to really hear the power and detail on Sabotage......which is just astounding. Great Review Phil! Keep it up and I hope the Technical Ecstasy Box Set comes thru for us!

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

I am looking forward to the next box set to see what Steven Wilson will have achieved with the remix. Fantastic to meet someone else who loves the Sabotage album cover. I was a bit worried when I did this review but the feedback has been very positive and I was really surprised when I went to my NEMS original vinyl and heard the sheer power of the guitars compared with the CD. Thank you again for watching - Phil :)

Im a bit late to the party, but as always I appreciate the brutal honesty Phil. Looks like I'm gonna have to track down the 1990s one, as I only have the 2009/2014 one. Hopefully I can track down a good pressing here in Canada for a decent price. Doubt I'm gonna find a NEMS pressing here, and I'm not sure how our Canadian pressings compare. Also going to have to find bootlegs of their live performances, as im not gonna pay $100 for these sets when my main reason for buying is the live performance. Like you, I adore this album. Its JUST behind Master of Reality as my favourite, and Vol 4 is just behind Sabotage. I really want to hear this album as it was intended. The thought of Symptom of the Universe being even more brutal than the version I've been listening to since high school? Its enough to make me drool!

I Still Have All Albums CD's & Cassettes Of Black Sabbath & OZZY Osbourne Too.Worth Buying. Masterpiece Song & Voices Forever.

I also prefer cd's for my music medium. I'm old enough to remember going from Mono to Stereo vinyl and was blown away by the effect ! While I still have 50-60 original's from that period, their cd counterparts blow most if not all away. I don't know about purchasing this box set, but one box set you reviewed I did purchase, and that was Iron Butterfly "Unconscious Power !" Excellent set and I was pleasantly surprised at how well cd's 6-7 sounded, being live performances. Nice job Esoteric Recordings. Thank you for these video's, take care.

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jerry, thank you for watching, that Iron Butterfly box is excellent. I am so pleased you are enjoying it. Phil :)

Good lord! What a phenomenal channel. I've just finished watching all of the Black Sabbath Box reviews. Superb! I'll admit I was surprised that you didn't mention the US based Rhino remasters by DigiPrep's Dan Hersch and Bill Inglot. Definitive version(s)? Keep up the good work!

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Phil (great name!) thank you for watching and finding me, plus your positive feedback. I am based in the UK so I need to look up the Rhino Remasters. I really appreciate you dropping by - Phil :)

@phildemetro

2 жыл бұрын

@@NowSpinningMagazine The pleasure has been all mine. Watching the Thin Lizzy review now. I appreciate the sincerity, as a fan. There is so much sensationalism and hype out there. I should clarify that the Rhino releases I mention are from 2014. The exist as separate discs but were also compiled in 'The Complete Studio Recordings 1970 -1978" & "The Rules Of Hell" box for the albums Sabbath did with Ronnie. As a mastering engineer, myself...I find that I'm sensitive to almost what could be explained as geographical biases in mastering. Some might argue this idea but that's alright. The many and various UK releases have a more unified sound between them whereas the USA based DigiPrep masters standout...they might have been remastered digitally? Likely. They are clearer with a more defined bottom end. Sharper treble. The UK versions are fatter and warmer but more with a more diffuse presentation. However, the 2021 remasters are as good or better that anything before attempted. I simply have to buy them all!

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

@@phildemetro Thank you for such an interesting and informative comment. So happy you are enjoying my channel - Phil ;)

Thanks for your "objective" honest review, I too am an old fan (64yrs) and I totally agree with your comments about the cover. I can remember staring at it and thinking how brilliant and artistic it was/is. I do own the '96 remaster and I think I'll stick with that , I previously owned the original CD and the remaster is far superior (the same with "Master of, Vol. 4, Paranoid, Sab. bloody....) . Maybe the next deluxe version(s) will be less of a rip-off???? cheers mate.

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Stan, thank you very much for watching and it is great to know I am not the only one who loves the cover. Phil :)

Invaluable review Phil thanks, you have set my mind straight about these remasters... I don't think they are worth the money for the most part.

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching. This one is the runt of the series. The others Vol 4 and Technical Ecstasy are the best - Phil :)

Curently hunting all these sets own. Im enjoying your honest reviews. I as rally looking for these to be definitive editions of the albums, but it doesnt look like thas the case. This one's only cost me £27 so it's not too bad, part of the collection.

Hi Phil, I became very wary of new editions after the travesty of the Genesis remixes (some, not all) so when it came to Sabotage I went down the Steve Hoffman rabbit hole and came up trumps with the Castle '96 CD and I've since bought the 2015 Sanctuary/Vertigo/BMG reissue (not remastered) on vinyl, so hopefully that's on a par with the NEMS (a little too pricey on Discogs). Yours is the first channel I've found that goes into different versions, and that's a great service to the music, the fans, and hopefully the bands! I only got into Sabbath 3 years ago having decided to go back and check out all the bands I missed during the 70s, and what a find! Iommi's handbrake turns, like on Megalomania, take my breath away - discovering new 'old' music is proving to be a real adventure. Cheers, Ian

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ian, thank you for watching and it is wonderful to know you find my videos useful as well as interesting. Phil

Sabotage is my favourite album by Sabbath..it's epic from start to finish..I mean Symptom of the universe is just off the scale it's that good..I've got the 75 vinyl Lp,cd and this box set..I like the box set and only paid £20 so I was made up,I know people have a go at the live stuff but ol I love it..it's Sabbath at the peak of their Live career in my opinion..by the way I absolutely love Technical Ecstasy..especially the box set..that album is so underrated..great detailed review.

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Hi Colin, thank you for watching. You got an absolute bargain there which makes up for any faults it may have. Phil

Good stuff Phil. I bought this on cassette when it originally came out. Loved the album and played it a lot until it met its demise being chewed up in a friends car stereo. To my shame I did not get round to replacing it until about ten years ago with the 2009 remaster. Part of a '2 for £10' offer on CDs at my local HMV. I never thought the sound was that great on this reissue. Now on a sort of a mission to find a decent copy of the original vinyl based on what you have discovered. If I get lucky I am sure it will cost less than the Deluxe Box Set.

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter, I am am sure you can find one at a reasonable cost. I was really surprised by my findings, but Tony Iommi's guitars sound much better on the vinyl copy. Phil

Yes! The Sabatage cover is about witchcraft. I’m not into that sort of thing, but in 1975 that cover, along with Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, had a major impact. To be honest, I thought both covers were slightly disturbing.

Great vid Phil. Was thinking of buying the boxset due to loving Sabotage. But now?? Have the original Lp bought as a kid of 14 whilst on hols in Devon during the summer of 75. Bought it on a visit to Dartmouth, John Menzies I think. Still love that vinyl production to this day as you mentioned. Cheers for your insight. Brian Ps Also have the 96 remastered cd

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Brian, thank you for watching. If you see it for less than £30 maybe, but otherwise it is a ripoff. The vinyl captures the power of Tony Iommi's guitar better than any CD. I am still surprised this was my finding!. Phil

I have the vinyl boxed set of this. I understand many people's complaints with it. I was just glad to get the Asbury park show on vinyl. Even though it was a bootleg, it was a soundboard. Not sure if the same source was used for both CD and vinyl. Good review.

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching - the vinyl set is actually a good price right now and a lot more impressive than the CD set. Phil

Excellent review..my favorite sabbath album. Had it in all medium except 8 track. Quadraphinia (the Who) never translated to cd the way vinyl delivered either. But for the most part, I do like CDs.

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Andrew, thank you for watching, it is also in my top 3 Sabbath albums as well - Phil

Like you Phil,love Sabbath,love box sets,but I own none of the deluxe box sets...too expensive as you say and not enough of anything different to make me get them above what I have.unfortunately as you know I struggle with the price of vinyl too so I will stick with what I have,and your great review hasn't changed my mind 🤟🤟

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi John, They are over priced and I think the people behind the Black Sabbath brand know they can charge a premium for them. Hard core fans will still go for them but I just feel with the latest one they have not given value for money or respected the the fans themselves. I hope this video helps people seek out a version that best suites them. Phil :)

That Japanese single was real, but claiming that this is a four-disc set when Disc 4 is just two songs is very misleading on their part. And I agree, I do not get why people practically get angry about the cover. Is it the reflection they don't like? Maybe they just think they're supposed to hate it because it's on all the bad album cover lists.

I just got the 2009 version this year. I shall stick with that one even though the vinyl is better. Reminds me of Sheer Heart Attack by Queen. The guitar solo in Stone Cold Crazy on the 90s CD is so week compared to the original vinal from the 70s. I bought the 2011 CD and what a difference.

Superb and brutally honest overview Phil. This latest box set has clearly made the cardinal mistake of falling short of being an exceptionally desirable package for the Sabbath collector. It's a somewhat lazy effort, overall, that relies on the fact that, as you say, many fans will buy it anyway. But that is no way to treat devotees who, let's face it, are usually getting much better bang for the buck from other artists. They, and the band's legacy, deserve much better than a thinly disguised live concert bootleg regurgitation.

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris, I may have been less brutal if I have not played each version and then compared the bootleg to the live CDs. Also the 4th CD was just put in there to increase the number to 4 like the other box sets. Thanks, Phil :)

Good reviews! 🙂👍 For my ears, the last 3 or 4 Sabbath albums with Ozzy in the 70's there was some frequency in Ozzy's microphone that was just shrill and deafening to my ears (especially on Sabotage and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath). I got some vinyl to mp3 rips of the 2012 vinyl reissues and those have some of the microphone issues filtered out to where the levels aren't too hot in the mix. To my ears, the 2012 vinyl reissue sounds the best especially for this album! 🤘😎

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Hi Brian, thank you for watching and your positive feedback. Also a big thank you for the extra info about the 2012 vinyl pressing. Phil

I would like for you to do Yngwie Malmsteen box set

Great video. Really interesting comparison of the different releases. I've seen a few reviews now of the new deluxe release on KZread, but they don't have your insight that comes from your knowledge of the band. I don't own a 1975 vinyl copy of this album unfortunately, but I'm going to try and find a decent one. I liked what you said about the cover and the photograph of the band. Most people seem to say it's terrible as you pointed out, but I liked your perspective, it was interesting and good to hear.

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Gary, thank you for watching and your kind words! I have also done similar videos on this channel covering Paranoid, Vol4, Technical Ecstasy and Heaven and Hell. I always try to give insight on the different versions and help collectors choose the right version for them. Phil :)

@Gary-fk9pu

3 жыл бұрын

@@NowSpinningMagazine Hi Phil, I've not watched those yet but will check them out.

Thanks Phil really enjoyed watching this and all your points. I was sent the Japanese Remasters plus the Castle box that came out way back when. I really enjoyed the comparisons you make. I think record companies need more of these sorts of videos. Though I doubt that Sharon could give a toss. Just keep the Ozzie bandwagon rolling.. Well done.

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jim, thank you for watching and your support. I approached this one thinking if Ozzy or Sharon stumble across it what would I say? Phil :)

@jimwood1968CDcollectorCAVE

3 жыл бұрын

@@NowSpinningMagazine She would shrug her shoulders and say thats his opinion and he can think what he F'ingwell likes. Then she might send you a small package with a box in it and make Ozzie post it.lol

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Very true :)

Thanks Phil, a very informative review. I still have my pristine NEMS copy bought in 1980 (I wore out the one I bought 2 years before). I still love the first 10 BS LPs, but Sabotage is probably my favourite. I did have the original CD version, which I thought sounded very 'flat' like the majority of early analogue to digital. I got rid of it very quickly as it lost the power and sharpness of the LP IMHO. My regular listen is the 1996 remaster (the LP is a rare treat). I was looking forward to the Super Delux Edition, but now I think I'll give it a miss!.

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Hi Craig, thank you for watching. The price for this set has plummeted since this review but it could have been so much better. Phil

Just watched this Phil . Totally agree. Fans not asking for much just something a little bit extra to make it special. Having said that curse of the collector i had to buy it .

Love watching your videos especially the ones related to all things Sabbath. Was wondering if you had a chance to check out the vinyl version of the Sabotage boxset yet? I definitely noticed a definite quality difference in the packaging and books themselves as well as the jackets for the vinyls are quite nice. I was quite impressed myself

@NowSpinningMagazine

6 ай бұрын

I have not got any of the vinyl sets apart from ‘Live Evil’ so can’t comment.phil

Anyone has a cassette? I had a record issued on official license (from vertigo) by record company Radio TV Belgrade 1975 in former Yugoslavia and sounded great; Nowadays listen to 1996 CD ....Great review as usual...

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Thank you - Phil

What are your thoughts on the vinyl deluxe set ?

@NowSpinningMagazine

10 ай бұрын

I don’t have it so can’t comment. A couple of friends have it and are very pleased with it. Phil

The concert was or is Ashbury park,new Jersey which I had as an bootleg.Great concert

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

That’s right, it’s Ashbury Park - Phil

Great Review to expensive for only 3 cds

Just discovered this great channel. I do think you should check out the first issue US Warner Bros cd from 1988. Fantastic sounding with zero compression or brickwalling like other remasters (Black Box 2004 by far the worst). You can really crank it and it will still sound great.

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Hi Bryan, thank you for watching and your great tip! Welcome aboard - Phil :)

My original copy of this album was on 8-track. It's long gone, but I can bet that anything from that is an upgrade! I do agree about the value of the super deluxe edition - I was also really disappointed with the cheap cardboard sleeves holding the CDs + there's not much in there begging for repeat listens. I also have a 2016 digipak... and I think that's just a reissue of the 2009 remaster. I'll have to listen for those differences you mention.

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Brett, thank you for watching. I agree any of the versions I mention will improve on your 8 Track ! The 1996 / 2009 are very close really and far better value that the deluxe box. Phil :)

i like all albums with O OSBOURNE , but i have a little "preference" for the first it was an time "un veritable coup de poing" a great sound !!!! a great band !!!!! and the first band of hard rock !!!! for me !!!! again thanks phil !!!

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jean, thank for watching so many of my videos! The first Sabbath album is very important. I must do a separate video on this. Phil

A man who knows what he is talking about ! Thanks

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Hi Anders, all my reviews are honest and independent. I want to help collectors decide if it is for them. I am passionate about physical music and will always tell it like it is. Phil

I greatly appreciate all of your insight, knowledge, passion, and honesty! I will skip this release.

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Thank you - Phil :)

When I bought the record back in 1975, my first pressing vinyl had a short “hidden” snippet of a track in the Side 2 run out groove. Ozzy singing “ everyone got to blow on the jug”. Can anyone tell me if this was ever replicated on any of the cd editions?

@NowSpinningMagazine

Ай бұрын

Yes it was

@alexanderdukeler3948

Ай бұрын

Super! Thanks for letting me know!

I think I first heard this album in the mid-nineties and I didn't like it much. (I'm 45) It has grown on me in the last 30 years. I now love this album and I can't understand why I didn't like it at first. I have my first U.K. press and I love it! Do you like the "Never Say Die" album Phil? That was actually my introduction to Black Sabbath as a kid. That album has a special place in my heart. Maybe you could do a show about that album if you like it as much as I do. Many fans don't like this one and I can't figure out why.

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Well...the truth is it took me years to like Never Say Die. I saw them on that tour and Van Halen destroyed them, Ozzy was washed up and the band were lost. I bought the Never Say Die single and follow up Hard Road and heard a could of tracks at a friends house in 1978 and just left it. It would be the late 1990s when I actually bought a copy of CD. It is still the only Black Sabbath album I do not have on vinyl. Your comment has made me think I need to rectify that soon! Phil

@ianscholes3049

7 ай бұрын

@@NowSpinningMagazine I think 'Never Say Die' get's a bad rap. I mean the title track, 'Johnny Blade' and 'Junior's Eyes' are excellent.

Hey man, good hearing your thoughts. I agree with the not fairness of the SD packages' prices. I only bought Sabatoge because here in the US I found it for $33 USD. Technical Ecstasy is less, Paranoid and esp. Volume 4 are over $100 - and it's the damn secondary market that did it. There had to have been Ebay sellers who bought these by the case just to double the price. Same thing happened with the Heaven And Hell and Mob Rules Deluxe vinyl, but not the CD's. In defense of the live recordings. You're not acknowledging the bootleg soundboard recording market at all. And the Black Sabbath unofficial release catalog is vast. I've done some research this year (As well as purchased about 40 now) and it seems that Black Sabbath rivals The Grateful Dead for sheer amount of unreleased material. So to think that the "North American Tour" CD's have Had to be released (officially) needs to take this into account... The book does state "taken from various concerts"... Here's what I've come up with, and you can simply listen to what's said between songs as well as check track length. 8.5.75 on Masters Of Reality 4 CD set is actually a remaster of "Black Sabbath - Convention Hall August 5th 1975, Asbury New Jersey." 2 CD set. 15 tracks. Track 6 before Megalomania is "Talking." It matches up with the MOR remaster perfectly otherwise. Funny for me, is I bought a worn out copy of this recently and then realized, it's on the MOR compilation, so I calmed down about it. So I've identified the MOR original source, and will say it isn't the one in the Sabatoge SD pack. I also have "Symptom Of The Universe" AKA "Symptom Of The Paranoid" AKA "Spiral Sabbat live '75 - Baltimore, 8.2.75". I'm not sure of the source. I'd say good quality audience recording. And I have Providence RI 8.3.75. Source is audience, with higher quality recording equipment. Converted from cassette to FLAC w no EQ. This version of Megalomania is exceptional. I'd love to find 8.4.75, if a recording exists. It could be the missing link and prove you right, that it's ever been (even unofficially) released. But out of the 4 versions I have, 8.2, 8.3, 8.5 '75 and also the Deluxe concert, they're all unique. I used Megalomania as a reference because there are so few live recordings of it. And it's also one of my favorite BS songs. I suggest you get on EBay and just type in Black Sabbath CD's. We used to have Bootleg conventions here in the 90's. Double albums for $50, $5 cassette recordings of the albums. CD's were just coming into popularity as well. The unofficial market's really evolved since. You can get a recording of every tour from '70 to '13 pretty easily. My goal is one of each leg of each tour. And attempt to find each song that was ever performed live. If anyone gets really involved in collecting, my advice is ignore titles and make sure you find out the recording date. Happy hunting for the Sabotage '75 tour origins, I'd love to see the 1st edition.

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Joe, thank you so much for watching and taking the time to share your very interesting and resourceful comment. This will be of great use to many of my subscribers and especially me! I will now be heading off to eBay to see what I can find. Phil :)

@JoeChaos

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome Phil, and thanks for the cheerful reply. I didn't want to sound overbearing or anything. But the bootlegs, can't ignore them. I think they're very vital in understanding a band like Black Sabbath's sheer breadth of music history. Let me know if you decide to buy any of them. None are perfect, they're unedited, as is live recordings. That's the real charm of it all. @@NowSpinningMagazine

I have the 2009 and the 1996 remastered versions and you are right the 1996 version is far far better.

It's really not that confusing for me as a young fan...I just stream it. Whatever version is on Spotify or KZread is what I get. I'm kind of wondering now what I'm missing out on, if as you say the original 70s master was better. They usually only include the latest remasters on streaming.

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Hi, thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. I actually love your comment, it is very enlightening and freeing really. You are right when I stream an album what version I get never crosses my mind. I think the record labels fixate on this to make older fans feel they are missing out on a newer version. When I was in my teens to late 30s and someone asked do you have Sabotage by Black Sabbath the answer was simply yes or no. At some point that became yes, I have the vinyl, CD, Deluxe edition and remaster. I actually love streaming as well and I’m currently doing that in the car! Phil

Yes the sound on the live one is a bit average, good to have that show though.lucky I got the box for really cheap, and for the books.

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Hi ian, thank you for watching - Phil

Phil! Just wanted to say thank you very much!! This was very helpful indeed my friend.

sabotage salio en mexico en los 70s en LP funda doble dificil de conseguir ahora

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I did not know that! - What was in the inner gatefold? Thank you, Phil

I have a 2009 remaster of this album on vinyl. Those original 2009 pressings came with a CD copy. In my opinion that is the best version of Sabotage, I have always found my original vinyl album muddy and lacking clarity (I have decent equipment to play them on). I noticed that some of the tracks on the live album with the box set are also on Past Lives CD2. I have a 70's single of Am I Going Insane (edit) which has Hole in the Sky on the B-side (the end is faded out). I know this as track 'T6' as that was its number in the Duke Box of my local pub back then! Incidentally - I have a box set, The Complete Replicas 70's CD Collection, (Black box with all 8 Ozzy albums) issued in 2001 - these sound like totally different mixes to the 1996 and 2009 re-masters. Any idea Phil?

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Hi Marc, thank you for watching and sharing your feedback on the 2009 vinyl version, I have not heard that so thank you - Phil

@marct7813

Жыл бұрын

@@NowSpinningMagazine Thanks for your reply. There's a lot of confusion the 2009 Ozzy era vinyl remasters. They weren't released on vinyl until 2015 (form what I have come to understand). They all came with a CD copy in a floppy plastic CD bag. All stunning remasters on vinyl. Sabotage is mind blowing, and much preferred to my 1975 original. Then they were re-pressed. The re-pressing is shocking, but all have the same catalogue number. for added confusion. I bought Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (this has only side 1 tracks listed on the back), and its bad. Tony's guitar is barely audible. I took it back to HMV for a refund. I spent a long time tracking down the 2015/2009 remastered vinyl with a CD copy. They are all stunning. I couldn't get Vol 4 (my favourite Sabbath album). I bought a copy which was '2009/2015 re-issue, re-master' but a re-press with no CD and gave it away. Awful compared my WWA 1974's pressing. They are still selling the same product (2009 remaster/2015 re-issue but re-pressed with no CD). I have no idea what they now sound like now, SBS has side 2 listed on the back cover now again.

Black Sabbath Technical Ecstasy deluxe box set coming on October 1st 2021. Just thought I'd let you know! 👍

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Shaun, This one does look better and anything with Steven Wilsons name on it is worth looking at. I will wait for the price to drop to £39 (ish) before going for it!

@shaunsmith3538

3 жыл бұрын

@@NowSpinningMagazine Hi Phil, I've started to order these box sets from America as you can usually pick them up for less than £30. I know I've probably got to wait an extra week or so for delivery but I think it's worth it to get it practically half price. The website I've been using is called Deep Discount.com. 👍

Hey Phil, I've got a question regarding your person. You've mentioned being a brummie...just as the guys in sabbath. They are from Aston.Your second name is Aston. Give us insights...can't be just a coincidence...;-)...keep up the good work.

@NowSpinningMagazine

10 ай бұрын

It is a coincidence, we are all from Aston in Birmingham, my name is Aston and I used to work in the area as a teenager. Phil

Hi Phil, how do you feel the quality of the SDC of Sabotage in vinyl ?

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Do you mean the vinyl in the super deluxe edition?

@sundance8744

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Is the vinyl issue the same poor quality like the cds' one ?

Great review. As a fan I'm disappointed of this two last boxes, they came with any new or rare material and the presentation has lost quality. Since I lost in a third world country this boxes are pretty expensive and pisses me off to find some things that could have been done better...

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Rodrigo, thank you so much for watching. As a Black Sabbath fan I am going to buy these box sets but I hate feeling ripped off and that corners have been cut. They are way too expensive. I will be doing a review for the next one ! - Phil :)

I thought they were mysterious and very cool that’s the only way I can think of the describe the album cover. I actually would stare at each ones garb especially Ozzys and it out him on a different level Than us.oh is it just me or isn’t Geezers arm bent in front but hanging down from the. A k photo?

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Hi G, thank you for watching and for your interesting comment. Since doing this video it has been heartening to realise that so many people actually like the album cover. I have also looked at the back cover and your are right Geezers arms are in a different position! - Phil :)

Well said Phil!

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I will always ensure my reviews are honest and independent. Phil

What's the brand of that vinyl plastic sleeve you have on Sabotage? It's really nice and clear. Regarding the new 2021 Sabotage boxset. Steven Wilson should've remixed and remaster the whole thing. I claw to the vinyl as the best one so far as well. I'm not having the original from 1975 like the one you have, but the 1980 NEMS NEL6018 version, it's says DE LUXE on the back. LOL

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I use Spincare. This is a video I did on them - thanks Phil kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYGWx5eMoa_PYbw.html

@rabarebra

2 жыл бұрын

@@NowSpinningMagazine I will try and get my hands on these. Looks awesome. Thank you for your wonderful videos.

Crikey! Gutted! I've just ordered it and yes..It cost me a fortune! Oh well... Vol.4 , Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage is my all time favourite run of albums! Great, in depth review non the less. 👍

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Shaun, Thank you for watching. It is overpriced and it could have been so much better but as you can see I also have a copy! If it is your favourite Sabbath album then nothing was really going to stop you from going for it. I just felt I had to be honest as it is hardly a deluxe box set. Phil :)

@shaunsmith3538

3 жыл бұрын

@@NowSpinningMagazine I agree with you Phil! They have us by the balls as they know we're always gonna buy the stuff. I played it last night and you're right, my original vinyl copy from back in the day still sounds best! 👍

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

@@shaunsmith3538 CD is my prefered format and I have recently posted a video on why I think CDs still rock so this was quite a surprise to me as well. They have had 4 attempts to get this right and the vinyl still wins. Phil :)

@shaunsmith3538

3 жыл бұрын

@@NowSpinningMagazine Yes Phil, very true. CD's are also my preferred option. As I've only just stumbled upon your channel, and it would appear that our musical tastes are very much the same, can I ask what your thoughts are on the band Rival Sons? Personally, I think they are the best new-ish band I've heard in more than 30 years! Thanks 👍

Geezer once said that they never thought about album covers they just thought it was a place to put your album

Does your vinyl copy have Blow on a jug fade in briefly after the writ?

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Brett, Thank you for watching, yes it does - Phil :)

So what happened. They didn't find any mastertapes? And so they didn't call Steven Wilson this time.

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

I think that is exactly what happened unfortunately

It's such a shame they dropped the ball with this set. All I ever really wanted were single edits of Hole in the Sky and Symptom of the Universe and sounds like we only get one of those.

It is a great album from beginning to end.

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, thank you for watching. It certainly is, everything about it is class. Phil :)

@bareknuckles2u

2 жыл бұрын

@@NowSpinningMagazine Indeed! Have a safe and happy holiday. You bring a lot of joy to people with these excellent videos. Cheers!

Honestly, there are just too many versions. It can be perceived as a cash grab. I am purchasing the Super Deluxe reissues, simply for the extra content. Although some of it, like the Sabotage set, doesn't really carry much. Also, the Sabotage disc in the box set is NOT remastered from the original master tapes, but a copy.

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Mark, thank you for watching. Sabotage was certainly a cash grab but as a fan I still bought it and will certainly be getting the Technical Ecstasy set! I hope there will also be a Sabbath Bloody Sabbath set as well ! Phil

Why? Only 2 song in the second cd?

Wow we are in the same wagon I got tons and tons of Black Sabbath vinyl,cd! Box sets !!!! We spend a lot of $$$ lots of time looking and searching for what???? Ask tony can I have your autograph !!!! Nop they don’t have the time !!!!! So F !!!!! that guy !!!!! Ozzy 2 !!!!!!!

I believe when the Remasters would have done properly they could blow away the Vinylversions in Sound Terms.I think there was too much Compression.The latest Remaster ist often not the Best,the Masterengineers getting the CD's too loud,near Brickwall.It's not the Fault of the Media i believe.And you are right,in this Boxset must be more Stuff for the Money,for this it's too expensive

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ronny, as you know from my ‘Why CDs Still Rock’ video CD is my favourite format. However as you say something has happened here in the mastering process where something is amiss. I agree it is not the media which is at fault but the remastering. Perhaps the original multi tracks are missing and tapes used for the remaster were several generations away from the masters? Thank you for watching - Phil

Hi Phil. Have rewatched this and agree that Sabotage is by far the worse of the box set releases, and time has not changed my mind. To call a 7inch single as part of a four disc box set is unforgivable. The live stuff as you say is terrible. The actual albumof course fantastic but this sounds nowhere near the 2009 release in my opinion.

@NowSpinningMagazine

Жыл бұрын

Hi Duane, thank you for watching. These sets have dropped in price considerably since I did this as well. Phil

So glad I didn't get sucked into the Sabbath Super Deluxe money grab. When you compare the price for what you get it's a rip off. Does it come under "put anything out and they will buy it"?

@NowSpinningMagazine

3 жыл бұрын

Hi John, I hope this saves some people being sucked into this but I understand some fans (that would be me!) will still feel they need to have it. I was really surprised to admit the vinyl winds over any of the CDs. Phil

I purchase the BS Deluxe Editions on vinyl (which in my opinion are far superior to the CD versions in every way) from Rhino in the US. They each cost US$125 (including shipping) and I live in New Zealand. I actually this is a pretty reasonable price but here in NZ the BMG version is a lot more. I agree that Sabotage lacks a bit but did they have enough material? This was the case for Master of Reality. Also is it possible they didn’t have the master tapes for the live show? I guess they should say so if it’s the case.

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Tom, thank you very much for watching and taking the time to comment. Great to meet other Black Sabbath fans. Will you be going for the Technical Ecstasy box ? Phil

@tommandeno4571

2 жыл бұрын

@@NowSpinningMagazine Hi Phil. Haha yes I’ve already preordered it. Like you I’m a huge technical ecstasy fan (I saw your video on that). I’m pretty excited about the new mix as it might offer something new that might get more people into it. Hopefully the live album sounds good too. I’ve heard there might be a NSD box too, that would be awesome😀

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I am going for it as well! I guess the one many Black Sabbath fans are waiting for is a Sabbath Bloody Sabbath box set! I would also like to see a Tony Martin era Box set as well - Phil

@tommandeno4571

2 жыл бұрын

@@NowSpinningMagazine Yes I’m looking forward to the Toby Matin box set too. I have a feeling there will be no SBS set though. In an interview, Tony said there wasn’t enough material for a MOR set so they did the RSD drop instead. They are going to release a splatter vinyl for SBS so I suspect it’s for the same reason.

@rabarebra

2 жыл бұрын

Tom Mandeno. Regarding Sabotage Deluxe box set; Also your vinyls with the live material is sourced from MP3s. It is a shame the whole thing.

No remixes?

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

No nothing new at all - this is the poorest of the Sabbath Deluxe Sets. Phil

Thank you, I will not be buying this. Sadly.

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Craig, BMG dropped the ball on this one. Phil

sabatage is me fav BS...luv it. tho i aint brought no delux boxsets tho...most r a bladdy rip off

@NowSpinningMagazine

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately this one is !