A big reason y we do so much research ourselves as blk woman is because like you said there is hardly any investment in research about our hair and skin and developing products specifically for our health it is a shameful reality. I feel companies relly on what we blak woman popularize based on what we think is best for us and use that in their marketing to sell back to us instead of doing science based research to give us the best products. Its cheaper and they get alot of money out of us.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Honestly it’s sad that we have to do this & hopefully the more we make it aware the more pressure it applies on brands to actually research. Another thing is brands are just selling us the same product repackaged as different ranges. We have enough deep conditioners on the market to last a generation😭 give us something else!😭😭

@happycamper91up71

Жыл бұрын

And yet we spend billions on other peoples hair...sad reality

@domperignon8882

Жыл бұрын

That research and development really is the responsibility of Black people themselves. No other race is obligated to do this.

@maryanyone

Жыл бұрын

But Black people have been "othered" in every facet of life! Research is never done on things that affect the community. Here's the thing though, Blacks have made millionaires out of others by buying their synthetic and natural hair. Perhaps when people learn to withhold their money for their own betterment, the Black dollar will finally make cents/sense!

@vmlksm9

5 ай бұрын

@@domperignon8882Thankyou for saying this. It really comes down to the men. White men & Asian men study their own hair & formulate products for their people & communities. Black men don’t

Definitely think you are right. A lot more people will say black people have low porosity hair, but your video is the only thing I’ve seen where they brought actual scientific evidence to back up their claim. Also, it just makes sense too 😭

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Definitely it makes so much sense and the science just backs it up xxx

So basically, in a nutshell, if you have to moisturize your hair, whether it's one a month, once a week, or every day (the spectrum), it's highly porous. Makes sense.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Yesss perfectly said I love it when people find the words that I couldn’t!xx

@ThisizKena

Жыл бұрын

This comment NEEDS to be pinned. Nicely said!

I’m so glad I found your page 🤧🤧. The whole hair porosity search was really not making sense until you explained the science 🙌🏾🙌🏾

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the video thank you 🥺🥺

@reneraynor8012

Жыл бұрын

I was getting confused about hair porosity because my hair is fine and curls are springy

Hi I'm back! (Chem supply chain guy from last vid). I want to follow up by saying this is some very astute work you did here. I see that you did in fact, clarify a lot of things I brought up in the prior video and great work. I think you've fully proven your case that African-oid hair is inherently highly porous. You made a VERY sharp point I'd love to see follow up on - Highly porous hair may still react very negatively to specific large proteins solely because there is a lot of exposed protein to "rebuild" creating an over absorption effect. I've realized you are definitely above my paygrade on this topic, and I was particularly bamboozled by that latter point solely because in my own experience I get great results with protein rich shampoos (I suspect that the fact that they're shampoos, it may buffer against the overload effect). I tend to identify with "protein sensitivity" so that point resonated with me. All in I would love more follow up on this topic!

I am happy to see someone with the science of our hair. I viewed part 1 too thank you so sharing this important information. ❤️

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you I’m glad it helped!🤍🤍

BrilIiant! I actually just commented on the fact that Black hair is treated as a variation of hair, where the "norm" is White hair. Instead, they're different beasts. A Black hairdresser once commented on the fact that beauty school is about White hair, where Black hair training is effectively an elective. I know that moves are being made right now to fix that. A lot of Black hair training has also been about bringing it to look like White hair, with the biggest being relaxers. Braiding and such were more community hair care practices that were handed down and have only recently made it into salons... and there are Black "high end" salons that still wouldn't entertain that. I actually know of a "curl" salon that is all about natural curls for all hair types, except that the hair that they manage best is... White hair. What you've done is: 1. Brought the real science 2. Proven without trying to do so that a lot of people are spewing information that they have not researched 3. Reminded/advised people that African hair is different... and in a class all of its own... and should be treated as such. Western Black history is, for the most part, mixed so that's why there are all the variations in hair type and why that 'one size fits all" mantra that is necessary to push products does not work! But people are lazy so they will continue to reach for the products and so that demand creates an industry that does not profit Blacks. And alas, this will not get you likes but keep up the great work. What I would like to know is: does your cuticle have to be closed? If that's your natural state, then perhaps it is what it is? And, for the record, you were quite clear in the first video, but people were listening with the intent to shut it down and not the intent to learn!

Ummmm I just hope her video is gonna go viral because this makes sooo much sense. It’s actually pretty funny 😂 once you think about it. The Hair industry capitalized off our ignorance and started making products specifically for “low and high porosity hair” made by black owners! Further exploiting our ignorance about our hair.

@naturalnadinee

11 ай бұрын

This might be the worst part about it 😭😭 they really packaged our lack of knowledge and sold it back to us 🙃

@uberhaute_naturalz84

10 ай бұрын

The most guilty are the black-owned brands who rip off their own!

I've always thought I had high porosity hair, but it takes along time to get wet, but dries instantly, after watching your video I moisturized once after wash day. My next wash day I wet my hair and it soak instantly. It's gonna be hard to convince team natural. Thank you, will spread the word!

After watching both parts I’m definitely convinced that naturally we have high porosity hair. This was very helpful and thanks for sharing the research you did. Will be changing my hair routine because I have found lately my hair has gotten drier over the years and I couldn’t find a way to add moisture in my hair and it staying. Like first day it be dry so hoping that learning what I know now I can retain moisture knowing the information.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Hey hun! Glad this video helped and this video👇🏾 kzread.info/dash/bejne/dXd9qtV6Z7a8Zbw.html Should definitely help you with moisture retention! Look out for the other videos where I give product recommendations etc xxx

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 well done! Excellent information. I always identified my hair as high porosity due to its Sandy brown colour which is highly porous. But to know that all black have high porosity hair to varying degrees is indeed a game changer! Perhaps you can develop hair products for our people...you have a new subbie 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Awww thank you so much! Welcome to the gang! Honestly there’s so many characteristics of our hair yet to be identified I’m just enjoying the learning process xxx

@maryanyone

Жыл бұрын

I'm curious as to what hair color has to do with porosity...

This is incredibly interesting and I wish more Naturalistas would watch this!

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Honestly so much more to learn! Thank youXxx

Thank you so much for researching this. I’ve been trying to understand my hair all my life. 🙏🏾

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you girl 🫶🏾 it’s an ongoing proces we will get there xxx

I remember when you said by virtue of the fact that we have to re-moisturise our hair (in between wash days), is an indication we have highly porous hair. This!! I've seen videos where people say they are low porosity yet moisturise their hair everyday and that just didn't add up to me if low porosity hair can hold moisture so well. I've always treated my hair as high porosity and even I don't moisturise everyday. Anyway, to each their own! Btw this is one of my favourite videos of yours and the "hair needs protein" one cos again you were stating solid info there!

Loving this genra of video from you, going over scientific papers together, Is so fun and relaxing and also educational. Please make more in this style..!!🤍

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Woww thank you! I always refrained from this because I thought people would find it boringgg 😭 thank you for the encouragement 🤍

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! All of your taking the time to do this researching and breaking down the information, to sharing it with us, Thank you! I've always wondered about the fact of why our hair is soooo delicate in its reaction to certain elements of our hair care routines, the environment, to the overload of product-experimentation...to why there isn't more concrete information about our hair and health! We will be able to make better choices with more knowledge! When one knows better, one does better! May God Bless you! Please continue to help us on the journey and again, I say Thank you for your kindness in sharing your knowledge. You are a true inspiration!🤎💯

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this comment! Heavy on the God bless you too! More to come🤍🤍🤍🤍

I've watched BOTH of your videos regarding porosity and I'm so grateful for what you've presented. This adds so much clarity to my own struggle. Thank you for taking the time to break down the research and evidence to better help the natural hair community work a bit more cohesively to produce and find better products for our hair type. You are a blessing Sis! I'm definitely a new subbie!

@naturalnadinee

6 ай бұрын

Aww thank you girl ! I appreciate those words!xxx

Really appreciate how she took the time to research all of this for us and gather information .Much appreciated 👍🏽

@naturalnadinee

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!🥺🤍

WHOA! This really blew my mind!!! Great work on uncovering this information. This is gonna completely change my hair care routine! I have been having big trouble keeping my hair moisturized as of late and this video was literally like a bomb that just kept exploding. I was wondering why I thought I had low porosity hair but all the problems of high porosity hair!!! THANK YOU!!!!

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’m glad this video made some sort of sense :) since I’ve started treating my hair like it’s high porosity it’s been flourishing xxx

Hello there! So happy to have found your channel, I sincerely appreciate the ACTUAL information. I wonder how much of the natural high porosity is affected by the average care taken by the person whose hair was tested vs their genetics. It could be that the average hair care processes are also affecting the genetic disposition of the cuticles. This is fascinating!! Thank so much for sharing this with us - also great to learn some avenues for how to research this topic further.

Thank you so much for presenting this info. I think this info is very useful. Unfortunately, people are going to be very resistant to it or not want to acknowledge it because professional and knowledgeable stylists to the laymen natural hair gurus giving out hair advice have used and championed porosity to talk about how to form one's hair care routine for black people. You are quite brave for putting this info out. I always knew I had high porosity, and the funny thing is it is uncommon to say that in the natural hair care space. The best thing I've put in my hair is a silicone-based at the end of my routine because it seals the cuticle very well, like supremely well, without weighing hair down (the only downside is that I have to use a clarifying shampoo every time I wash my hair, which is once a week). It is kind of ironic that a product being silicone-free is such an important selling point for natural hair care products.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this! Yes it’s uncommon to claim high porosity hair And same here, a conditioner containing silicones in the final step of my routine has been a game changer 🤍🤍

@cfoster6804

Жыл бұрын

Right they demonized silicones and grease. Both of which work extremely well for high porosity hair.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

@@cfoster6804 honestly, but they glorified oils which do the same things as silicones/grease I.e coat the hair strand for protection and prevent moisture loss 😭 and then said it’s because silicones arent water soluble but neither is oil?😭 it’s all just crazy girl xx

@uberhaute_naturalz84

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee 🤣🤣🤣 don't mind the hair cultists on social media. In my side of the world, we use grease, silicones, mineral oils etc and our hair is thriving and so are many people who are not on social media.

@astridm9705

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee I’ve been around online natural communities on on and off since the early 2000s. To be fair, I would attribute the anti-silicone attitude to people following Lorraine Massey’s Curly Girl routine, which was very popular at the time, but initially directed at curly caucasian women. Lots of people say you have to see for yourself how your hair reacts to silicone. I never went silicone free because I never adopted a no-poo routine. Of course, if you don’t shampoo, you’re going to get build-up! I’ll keep my shampoo, thank you! As far as grease and mineral oils go, most people say that they’re fine for sealing moisture, but shouldn’t be used on scalp to avoid clogging the pores. People tend to prefer natural oils and butters, because there is a pro-nature bias (I’m not against chemicals personally), which goes beyond the actual effect of products on the hair (environmental reasons, a desire to be as "natural" as possible) and because they contain some nutrients that grease and mineral oils don’t, but I’m not convinced these nutrients make much of a difference from just being applied. Anyway, great video!

This video and the Part 1 sent me on a new journey to rediscover my hair. I've worn it very short for almost 20 years and have been growing it out after cancer. I wanted to cut it again because it's at that intermediate length where I have to do sOmEtHIng to it and it was frustrating. Now I'll try to be more patient, do more research and trials, and figure out what my current hair likes again. Growing up I had hair down my back. Let's see if I can get there again- scalp issues and all! Gotta get back on my ACV rinse. Thank you for the a-ha and the information. 🥰😊😊😊😊👏🏾👑

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Ohh how lovely I’m glad I could be of help, yes don’t worry it will get there just a good simple routine and time 👏🏾🤍

Fantastic video!!! I mean.. really great video! 👏🏾 This is the type of fact based information I love and seek out because I really want to understand how my hair is constructed so that I can maintain the health of it. I also loved your previous video that covers using ACV to help close the cuticle. I have seen instant results from using it as a rinse. Anyway, I subscribed, I enjoy your channel, and please keep it coming.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

So glad you like the ACV rinses I saw results from the first use to the more you do it the better it gets 😭 thank you for the sub and there’s definitely more to come 💃🏾💃🏾

Thank you for your contribution to our community

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 🤍

Makes sense why I have to re moisturise every two days - three. Our hair is so intelligent it even shrinks to protect itself from the sun

Okay so my hair could be high porosity but it is LOWER-high porosity. Makes sense.

I absolutely love the approach you take with your content. New big fan here!! 🙋🏾‍♀️

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Welcome to the ganggg🤪🤍

Girl I watched part one and now i I know for sure I don't have low porosity hair. Thank you so much. You're doing the Lord's work fr🫡

I love watching your videos. I'm learning so much from you. I subscribed to your channel.

@naturalnadinee

5 ай бұрын

thank you girl! welcome xx

Thank you for this very detailed and informative information ❤

Glad you clarified you’re talking about FULLY black people.

@blue-ck9ns

27 күн бұрын

Most half black people end up with coily/curly high porosity hair too. It might be thinner and have a slightly different curl pattern, but will still have the dryness of African hair. African coily hair is a dominant gene.

Thank you for your arduous research Nadine

Excellent video - want to learn more - thank you 👍🏾🤗🙏🏾

@naturalnadinee

6 ай бұрын

Thank you xx

Awesome research! Suscribing now because you definitely deserve more subscribers!

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Aww thank you!🤍🤍🤍

WOW💥 Research proves it🌻Now, for the NEW hair routine which will include some kind of sun screen🌞 My hair train is finally on the right track🚆

this video validates things that I have always thought about our hair and hair in general. for one afro textured hair is a real thing it's not just hair that is a type for curl pattern but it's a literal texture of the hair. that's why if an Asian person with straight hair gets a curly rod perm set, it still I'm going to act like or even look like natural afro textured hair which is also the reason why even when our hair is in the most bone straight silk press it never ever looks like white people are Asian people's hair. but I feel like when I be saying these things I get backlash. another thing that annoys me and I kind of commented this on your other video is the whole curl pattern doesn't matter and the only thing that matters is low porosity or high porosity but I always thought that there's definitely a lot more to hair than just whether it's high or low porosity and this video confirms that because clearly hair has so many components to it like how many layers of cuticle you have or how irregular the pattern/shape the cuticles are, etc. And maybe people will say well don't include those things because they're not easily testable but neither is porosity because the water test never worked to begin with and we all have high porosity hair anyway. at least the vast majority of us do.

This is genius. Thank you for taking so much of your time to do this. There’s not much research done on black folks and definitely not on our hair therefore, we don’t know how to properly care for ourselves, which result in all these companies getting wealthy off of us.

@naturalnadinee

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much I really appreciate it🤍🥹🤍

Thank you for this information and for the time you put into this research. I am a visual learner so this second video was extremely helpful. Also, thank you for mentioning that there is a spectrum when it comes to porosity. That was my main confusion when it came to the first video and I think that was clarified in this video. I would say that African Americans in general have high porosity hair but there is a spectrum which is why there is so much confusion in the natural hair community. There is no one size fits all and our hair types vary.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I genuinely didn’t explain my first video enough so I’m glad this one made more sense to people still unsure.. I promise it’s such a game changer when we understand certain things about our hair! & yes types definitely vary too xxx

@NuLily777

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee Definitely a game changer!

Excellent video. Very insightful! 👏 I actually get sunburn really easily on my scalp and my hair is naturally very light and gets noticeable sun damage, so I use SPF on my hair and scalp. Now I’m seeing that ALL black people need to do what I’m doing. Wow.

Love how u set it StR8 .. ❤

Awesome info Thank you!

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!🤍🤍

Loving the science aspect to this topic

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you hun! 🤍🤍🤍

Great video. With knowledge of the porosity, l can research what products to use, and understand why some products worked and others didn't. Thanks

@naturalnadinee

9 ай бұрын

I’m glad it helped! Thank you🤍

How can we help band together to create a research conglomerate working on our hair types?

None of the sources you provided were studies on hair porosity. Hair porosity is not one of the traits analyzed in forensic investigations. Even if it was, the link you provided from the California Innocence project states, "There was no database to compare the hairs and there was no means to determine how often the characteristics the FBI used to compare the hairs appeared in the general population."

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Yes because no one studies hair porosity is an output measure never an input measure. Porosity is the effect but the cause is cuticle characteristics. Even cosmetologists rarely cover it, they study the anatomy of the hair and how it behaves AS A RESULT. It’s pretty self explanatory. And ofc there’s no database to how often it’s used because every case in the FBI is different ? They may never need to analyse anyone’s hair in every case. But there’s no denying that forensic hair analysis is a common practice.

@KimeSays

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee If no one studies hair porosity then you cannot use articles not studying hair porosity to talk about hair porosity. I understand what hair porosity is, and I'm simply mentioning that the sources you used are not supporting what you are discussing here. and that's the point that the California Innocence Project is pointing out--how can this national agency promote a technique that was created by law enforcement and not scientist be used to convict people (and given what we know about police relations in the US is very interesting to think about). Also, the FBI link you provided is a link to a journal that is not published or endorsed by the FBI, is archived and contains outdated information. I also understand that the cuticle plays a part of and is not the only factor in hair porosity. Genetics also plays a part. You touched on how being mixed race could play a factor, and since you used links that were all from the United States, it's also important to point out that the average African American has 73% West African Ancestry and the other percentage other regions of the world. Also, the continent of Africa has the most diverse gene diversity. I'm curious to see what the field of trichology puts out in the future regarding this topic. great discussion.

Try the Supergoop resetting mist SPF 40 sunscreen. It's made for the face, but does fine on my hair. I only use it around my temples, since I get some thinning there, and also wear hats outdoors that protect most of my hair. At the temples, even days I'm indoors in natural light from the window, or driving in the car to and fro, the sunlight makes a difference in brittleness and thinning. It damages the scalp, not just the hair. So yes, do use a sunscreen on your head anyplace not covered by a hat/scarf.

Thanks Queen!❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you hun 🤍🤍🤍🤍

Very interesting, awesome video

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. 🤍🤍🤍

Wait there's hardly enough research on textured hair? Yet we as a collective spend how much on other peoples hair?

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Not enough at all! Have to search far and wide just to get basics 😭😭

@sarajean-baptiste2246

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been growing out my natural hair with Knotless braids for 17 months after wearing it out in twists for 10 years. I used to think I was low porosity… I’m going to give my braids a break and retrain my hair to use protein

This makes SO much sense. I've struggled to figure out my porosity and the thing about gaps make sense. Without any effort or excessive damage, my strands often have gaps throughout and holding up a strand against light shows uneven color.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

It really does! Porosity is more than what we have reduced it to which is just cuticles open/closed! There’s way more to it xx

Product recommendation: coola makes a scalp SPF. Walgreens in the States makes a dupe so there may be other stores with similar products

Yes girl I'm here for it! I've been referencing your first video all over the place. This is game changing information for us. Now I see why grease has worked so well for my strands. Keep the videos like this coming!

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Aww thank you! 🤍🤍 yeppp grease has a special place in ones heart xx

Great explanation.

Wow!!! So informative. Glad I stumbled across this video. You should create a hair care line with SPF for our hair!

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! & 😭 gosh that would take ages who knows 🤷🏾‍♀️ x

@Fafa960170

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee you really should tho! The thing you said abou the spf was a great point. I even looked up if there was spf for hair and I found out that there is. But my impression was that it's probably made for straight hair.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Ooo I felt the same, I don’t really trust the hair SPF that’s on the market right now and most of the are like sprays/mists too xx

Bring on the science. 📖 I'm a massive fan of yours and have been regurgitating #part1 to all who would listen because it made sense. These clinical studies, as you said, prove it. Despite the so-called 'floating test' I knewwww my hair wasn't low porosity because it just didn't behave like it was. I've followed your advice and started spraying ACV rinse on my DC. Hopefully that'll reduce the dryness. Thank you for the education. Looking forward to #part3.🤎

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! & yess even my hair floated once upon a time let me know how the ACV rinses go they’ve really benefitted me I’ve also seen REDKEN have an acidic bonding range that balances PH of hair I’m going to try on here and let you know 🤍🤍🤍

@memim6621

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee I love that you actually reply! ❤️ Yes, I'll keep you posted about the ACV and I'll check your Redken video when it drops. 😊👍🏽

@memim6621

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee I've just done a bit of research. Calypso Sun-Sea UV Hair Protection with Argan Oil. The ingredients look pretty good too. It's not crazy expensive so I'm gonna give it a go.

Thank you for this video! On the paper it makes sense, but looking at the facts, why is it so difficult to have even have them soaking wet under the shower like it’s like the water can’t get in

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Hey girl I have touched on this in my video “myths about hair porosity”. Xxx

in Egypt & France my hair is more straight & closed cuticles(=not frizzy) than in cloudy humid Netherlands 🤷🏻‍♀️

Hi Nadine! This is a great video and you’ve definitely convinced me that I’m high porosity which I’ve been suspecting for some weeks now. I use a clarifying shampoo and protein deep conditioner every other week and my hair has been thriving and retaining moisture so well! I still use the LOC method though. Although I notice my hair is still extremely frizzy I’m not sure if it’s because that’s just my natural texture, I have bad breakage, or because I usually go through wash day using hot to still pretty warm water and it’s just raising my cuticles a lot. Would you have any ideas on how to combat frizz for high porosity black hair?

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Heyyy thank you! For this I posted a video on how to seal your hair cuticles to retain moisture better hope it helps 🤍

Thank you, new subscriber here .

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!🤍 welcome to the ganggg xxx

We should spray sun screen on our hair and I’ve started that with regular clear neutrogena SPF

Hey Nadine. I really hope you see this comment, as I have a few questions. The sample size of the second study is so incredibly small compared to the population as a whole, and the sample was taken from one specific region within the US. Wouldn't have been more accurate of a study to sample hairs from multiple regions within the US, as environment, lifestyle, and diet may play a huge part in the structure of the hair? How can we look at this study and conclude that absolutely NO black people can have low porosity hair when there are such vast variations of what "black hair" can actually be, even within Africa itself? Given that porosity is a spectrum, as you've stated, is it not more scientifically accurate to conclude that black people just tend to have higher porosity hair in comparison to Caucasians and Asians, however could still be considered "low" on the spectrum? I hope this comes across as genuinely as I intended. I, too, am a scientist but I have not done the research that you have on this particular topic.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Hey girl, Yes ideally there’ll be a larger sample size, various regions etc but that’s true for every study, drawing conclusions based on the sample size when the results are repeatable is valid there’ll always be greater detail you can look into, not to mention this study was done on all virgin hair samples as well as ancestry requirements so I imagine it would be difficult to source more people to be part of the study . And “low porosity” is a characteristic that only applies to Asians and Caucasians, we need to just disassociate from it completely and basing our hair routines over it. If anything black people fall under a spectrum of high porosity (some higher than others some lower than others). Low porosity hair doesn’t get dry it retains moisture. which doesn’t apply to black people which is why we can never be classed as “low porosity”. I know it feels like it shouldn’t be that black and white but really it is Hope that answered a few of your questions let me know if you’re curious about anything else I love delving into the science of things! xx

I am willing to listen and learn. However this far we're just talking about every characteristic except the one i use - THE FLOAT TEST. Can you pls cover this and how it relates to african american porosity? Quite hobestly thats never failed me. When im looking to try a new product i test to see where i am on the float test first and act accordingly. I will note my hair and its relationship with moistute has definitely changed for the better since ive started focusing on porosity over texture. Additionally im accutely aware of how it feels (between/during washes) and also act accordingly to give it what it needs.

@naturalnadinee

9 ай бұрын

Hey girl I covered this in my first video. The float test is a myth, the only thing that determines what floats in water is it’s density with regards to its surroundings. A spoke floating in water does not mean a sponge is not porous. It just means the sponge is less dense than the water.

So pretty much the porosity changes? I read that if your hair squeaks when you move upwards with your finger its low porosity. I’ve never felt bumps when i move up , i have 4 a hair and im so tired of buying products when i see women with straight hair able to just use oils and that’s something we’re being told not to use on our hair … ive seen women with straight only using natural things they get from their gardens but they just shove so many products down our throats and i feel so trapped in The hair industry but i really just want to make an easy remedy at home… like the asian women

This also shows 11:50 that our hair is very much alive and responsive to the environment

I really enjoyed this video, everything you said made sense, especially the spf part. Do you think we'll ever find a way to make our hair low porosity like the Caucasians and asians?

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

I think genetically over generations it’s possible that our hair will evolve. Like I’m sure there is a reason our hair evolved to be high porosity. Unless some groundbreaking treatment where we can make it happen yesterday I doubt we will see this change naturally xxx

@blueorchid5971

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee so I guess we'll just stick to sealing our cuticles and using spf then

@maryanyone

Жыл бұрын

...and why would you want that? Isn't that the same as asking if you'll ever get the same color as Whites?

@phinaexis981

5 ай бұрын

@@maryanyone Thank goodness you said that and you definitely read my mind and I definitely agree with you and finally someone with an brain and eyes and that when I hear this comment from @ blueorchild5971 • about black peoples hair cuticles and that person @ blueorchild5971 • makes no sense and I’m like make sense make sense @ blueorchild5971 • and that black people don’t need to evolve when it comes to there hair cuticles and that your opinions @ blueorchild5971 • doesn’t matter ok and it’s almost like this person wants to be white so bad , I’m like smh 🤦🏿‍♀️ and that black melanated skin people don’t need to change there hair cuticles just to fit in with the asian, Korean, Japanese, Chinese people and the white people as well ok and there’s nothing wrong with the way black melanated skin people hair cuticles is right now ok @ blueorchild5971 • and I’m like Black people are made the way they are and so stop @ blueorchild5971 • trying to change what we are when it comes to black people hair cuticles and this is coming from an young black women since you like to give your own black people advice on here about there hair cuticles and here’s some advice from me it’s for the best sis @ blueorchild5971 • and if you want your hair cuticles to change so bad so it can adapt and look exactly like all the Korean, Asian, Chinese, Japanese, white people hair cuticles then how about you do us other black people an favor @ blueorchild5971 • then just change your black melanated pigmented scalp skin color by bleaching it white @ blueorchild5971 • by using an bleaching skin cream and put it on your precious black melanated scalp skin color so you @ blueorchild5971 • can change how your black melanated scalp hair cuticles skin color look like and also so you can change how your black melanated scalp hair cuticles are right now so that your scalp color and your hair cuticles can look white like all those white people out there and so that way you can fit in and look just like all these white American people since you’re trying to tell you own Black melanated people what to do with there own hair cuticles and so i hope this info helps @ blueorchild5971 • and let me know how it working for you @ blueorchild5971 • and keep me updated . So like they say it’s just the way it is and nothing ever ganna be the same and it’s the way it is ummm hummm... ok and that’s on period and also like they also say the blacker the berries the sweeter the juice and say it loud I’m black and I’m proud ✊🏾✊🏿. But as young black women I love my hair cuticles, I love every black persons hair cuticles and I love my black melanated skin.

@phinaexis981

5 ай бұрын

@@maryanyone Thank goodness you said that and you definitely read my mind and I definitely agree with you and finally someone with an brain and eyes and that when I hear this comment from @ blueorchild5971 • about black peoples hair cuticles and that person @ blueorchild5971 • makes no sense and I’m like make sense make sense @ blueorchild5971 • and that black people don’t need to evolve when it comes to there hair cuticles and that your opinions @ blueorchild5971 • doesn’t matter ok and it’s almost like this person wants to be white so bad , I’m like smh 🤦🏿‍♀️ and that black melanated skin people don’t need to change there hair cuticles just to fit in with the asian, Korean, Japanese, Chinese people and the white people as well ok and there’s nothing wrong with the way black melanated skin people hair cuticles is right now ok @ blueorchild5971 • and I’m like Black people are made the way they are and so stop @ blueorchild5971 • trying to change what we are when it comes to black people hair cuticles and this is coming from an young black women since you like to give your own black people advice on here about there hair cuticles and here’s some advice from me it’s for the best sis @ blueorchild5971 • and if you want your hair cuticles to change so bad so it can adapt and look exactly like all the Korean, Asian, Chinese, Japanese, white people hair cuticles then how about you do us other black people an favor @ blueorchild5971 • then just change your black melanated pigmented scalp skin color by bleaching it white @ blueorchild5971 • by using an bleaching skin cream and put it on your precious black melanated scalp skin color so you @ blueorchild5971 • can change how your black melanated scalp hair cuticles skin color look like and also so you can change how your black melanated scalp hair cuticles are right now so that your scalp color and your hair cuticles can look white like all those white people out there and so that way you can fit in and look just like all these white American people since you’re trying to tell you own Black melanated people what to do with there own hair cuticles and so i hope this info helps @ blueorchild5971 • and let me know how it working for you @ blueorchild5971 • and keep me updated . So like they say it’s just the way it is and nothing ever ganna be the same and it’s the way it is ummm hummm... ok and that’s on period and also like they also say the blacker the berries the sweeter the juice and say it loud I’m black and I’m proud ✊🏾✊🏿. But as young black women I love my hair cuticles, I love every black persons hair cuticles and I love my black melanated skin.

Yay science.

Amazing scientific based evidence. I love how you stated yes you can put people in a box that's how genes work lol. Thank you for all your research!

@naturalnadinee

5 ай бұрын

Thank you girl 🥹 i really had to come with Fax xx

That does sound true make since

So, how would someone with LESS than 85% african ancestry (which i believe most in the african diaspora fall into this group) figure out how to care for their hair? i thought i had found answers within porosity but now I'm completely lost again.

@vancesumrall1829

Жыл бұрын

"The average African-American genome, for example, is 73.2% African..." From Science.org

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

85%+ was the threshold used for this particular study. 73% is still majority black.. by a lot 🤷🏾‍♀️

@vancesumrall1829

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee Yes, but it adds significantly more variability. I would like to see a study that focuses on more average AA individuals and includes mixed people as well since we deserve to know how to care for our hair as well.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

@@vancesumrall1829 definitely deserve to know but there’s just not much research on it so I couldn’t tell you how being biracial etc alters hair ultrastructure with that being said this study was conducted on average African American population

@lafasview

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee I think this particular comment should be “pinned”

I found both your videos intresting , there still so much to uncover about black hair . I have never heard of SPF for hair, if that's what holding back blk peoples hair from growing. Why do some blk womens hair with kinky texture grow so long ?

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

All of these characteristics in our hair can be managed by a good hair routine, hair that is maintained retains length better. The problem is there aren’t products that are specifically curated for our hair needs because the research isn’t being done just remixing the same products in different packaging and brands 😭

@Naomi-zj2yf

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee Thanks for replying so quickly

This explains why our hair is easily photo bleached.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Yep an easily coloured! You can dry natural hair from black to brown or even honey blonde with no bleach which would never be possible on low porosity hair xxx

Compared to other groups our hair is high porosity but within our own group there are variations. We need studies that only do research on our ethnic groups. Using white or asian hair as a yard stick is the reason we struggled before to get adequate hair care and even now all the research is focused on them. Most black people don't even know as a group we're more than 85% lactose intolerant. That's the lowest number from America, it's higher for African black ethnicities (keep in mind lactose intolerance is also measured against the least lactose intolerant group even amongst Caucasian ethnicities. WASPies/western euros). And yet so many afro people still insist on eating dairy products. In the uk, the NHS website, at least they adjust your BMI for your ethnic group. Black people and Asians have to be leaner than Caucasians to lower their risk of obesity related lifestyle risks. Many black people don't even know that. Note how I said leaner not thinner. But based on BMI in simplicity it needs to be closer to 23. Now when you really consider that, there are many afro people relatively slim walking around with an extra tire of fat that they don't know will kill them 10 years before they get to retire and don't even know it cause the standards of health and wellbeing aren't tailored to you. Also the BMI chart has been suggested by researchers to also obscure afro black people's weight when measuring because in terms of proportionality we tend to have longer limbs a d small trunks which can obscure our overall fat composition and weight to height ratio. Good luck out there guys. PS check the NCI research site for info as I recited this from the top of my head.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Hey there! In general black people have high porosity hair, I only compared them to Asians and Caucasians because they have low porosity hair. This video explains what low porosity hair is by references other races then explaining why black people don’t have it. The difference is we aren’t copying hair routines or trying to mimic whatAsians and Caucasians do. In fact the opposite! Figuring out our hair needs because we are high porosity. The low porosity movement is attempting to copy asian/European standards to our hair when it does not apply. Porosity is a spectrum yes some people have higher porosity than others, but it’s high porosity nonetheless xxx

so how does that change how we treat our hair?

Does olaplex change our hair type enough to stay sealed?

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Only slightly not enough to see drastic changes in the physical characteristics but it definitely helps with manageability xx

Well if it’s not low porosity then what is it? My sisters hair is much thicker and takes in soooo much more moisture and product than mine. Which I assume is what low porosity is. So I have to do a different hair care routine. Also, what about different hair types rather than just race? These are just questions I have before finishing the video.

In your last video I saw a reply you gave to a lady who went to a lab to check her porosity using a 2000× microscope. She said her hair was low porosity. Can you explain why you think she was wrong?

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Of course hun I remember that! for reference this is the lab she was referring to and this is their “hair porosity test” nitlabsinc.com/hair-porosity-testing First of you look at the image they have shown to be a “low porosity” hair strand you can clearly see the microscope they are using does not have the resolution to determine that. The image is blurry and you can just about make out cuticular shape pattern. Secondly to view cuticle position you need to use a SEM/TEM (like the ones used by the FBI) of course these are extremely expensive state of the art equipment. You can see in the picture on this website it’s a Birds Eye view of the hair strand, in which everything from Birds Eye view looks flat/closed. Thirdly they have no example of a high porosity hair strand cuticle under their microscopes. Because their facilities don’t have the capability to see the cuticle in that much detail. Unfortunately these labs are common and are charging ridiculous amounts to people who don’t know much better xx

@caramelese8520

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee Oh I understand. The pictures don't look like the ones from the forensic analysis images you showed us. By the way I tried the apple cider vinegar and saw a difference but I don't know what routine to use daily. The routine I used for my wash day was shampoo, deep conditioner, acv and leave in. Is that okay? Also, how does acv seal the cuticles?

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

@@caramelese8520 yes nowhere near enough detail! && for a daily routine I would 1) spray hair with water (lightly) and then 2) use a leave in conditioner (a lightweight one to prevent flakes and not too much) and then 3) a light oil (a few drops) on the ends before wrapping your hair at night xx This will help give some extra daily moisture in between wash days xx

Hey , I have high porosity hair in the part that is exposed like the crown area and have low porosity hair that is the under hair line.. is this possible?

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Yes it’s possible to have lower porosity under the hairline and is actually very common, crown hair naturally develops differently but it’s also exposed to more sunlight environmental factors etc x

@aishwaryashreekarmakar6050

Жыл бұрын

How to use products in this type of hair ? Can we get a video. Love from India.

This further proves to me that when you're searching for something you will find it and that the information is out there. Literally, yesterday I said to myself that I want to truly understand how the cuticles work...like how they move and how to get moisture retention (I no longer have an issue with my hair feeling dry) - I just wanted to know and *BOOM* I came across this video. Realised there was a part 1 and had to watch that then part 2. It's definitely taught me somethings, but I would love to find more on this. Cause for some reason I refuse to believe that with us as a nation being the most resilient of the races, that our hair is the most fragile with less protection. What is 85% of the whole that the chose, cause I want to see MULTIPLE cross sections to show how they concluded that we have roughly 3-4 layers of cuticles, whilst others have 8 layers 😅 no ma'am I need them to do a cross section on my hair strand 😂

@kieshaarielle

7 ай бұрын

Just did some research and discovered there may be some flaw to the amount of cuticle layer reported in this video, which I figured based on the information provided. So, from my quick research it states that people with afro textured hair typically have 5-7 layers of hair cuticles; whilst those of European ancestry have 3-5, and those of East Asian have 3-4 layers. Another source cites: Afro textured hair: 3-7 East Asian: 7-10 European: 7-8

Very interesting that people are teaching the opposite.

Hi Nadine. Would a aloe Vera spritz be as effective as ACV rinse?

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Aloe veras PH is not as acidic so highly doubt it

Can you please do a hair and skin care routine????🥰😫

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Heyaaa ive got so many hair routine videos on my channel, or did you mean this specific style? I could do a skincare routine but im by no means an expert in that either😭 thank you for the love🤍🤍🤍

Nadine when you say spf for hair what do you mean?

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

I mean some sort of sun protection from UVA/B rays that’s suitable for our texture, it would help to keep our cuticles sealed xx

@simplymamle7236

Жыл бұрын

What ingredients do you think would be helpful?

Dang i'm mixed is my porosity still high? how can I find out? Im black and white and I have 3c/4a hair

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

It’d be so difficult for me to tell you😩 the only way you can tell is just how your hair interacts with moisture retentions, if it gets greasy etc would be an indication it’s low porosity and retains moisture well xx

@blue-ck9ns

27 күн бұрын

With no product in it, if your hair dries quickly and turns into a fro when it dries it’s high porosity. Curl pattern is the most irrelevant thing. Porosity and density are the only things you need to know for your hair.

I liked your videos and can not desagree with you or with science, as I didn't make researches and 'm not a scientist :D . But I still have a question though: Those tests are/were for "African" (meaning black people). But not all "black people" are directly from Africa even if we all come from the same pattern. What about mixed people, those who are black and white, or blasian, or black/white/indien? Are they automatically black? Do they automatically have "black hair", so high porosity? (I'm not talking about skin color because some indian have black skin...and people forget that). Isn't it the reason people feel they might have medium or low porosity because of their ancestors who could have been indian or whit or whatever, not only black. Many people make their DNA test and discover (and surprised) sometimes they are not only black but have european side much more than what it appeared? can the hair be mixed too? (Just a question, I don't mean to disaprove science at all). .;-)

@naturalnadinee

7 ай бұрын

Hey babe the test we’re done on African Americans that have 85%> black/African DNA. If you have 2 black parents who came from black parents it’s unlikely other heritages earlier down the line would affect your genes drastically. For example a part of my family 2ish generations ago were white hence I’d still have >85% African ancestry however someone who is mixed 1 parent black one parent of Asian ancestry could sit in either or category for sure! Xx

@cilixialatinantillaise8664

7 ай бұрын

@@naturalnadinee ok so is it about kinky/coily/curly hair? Can we say that people (whatever the skin) who have kinky/coily/curly hair, espacially 4 hair, have automatically high porosity hair🤔?

Thanks for explaining that mixed race people have different hair. I’m self identified as black but get told that I’m not really black because of skin hue and hair type. I’ve even had a black lady yell at me that if my hair doesn’t need oil, I can’t be black.

@queenandcrown

Жыл бұрын

Then I must not be Black because my hair hates oil/grease.

@m.s9146

Жыл бұрын

@@queenandcrown southern Asians, and people throughout the Hawaiian and Polynesian islands use oil. So not only black type 4 hair wants oil. If my hair is flat ironed - with just a heat protector, three days later it is greasy and needs to be washed again. My hair is fine so oil quickly coats it. Coarser hair from all races benefits from oil.

@maryanyone

Жыл бұрын

what exactly is mixed race? Is that not what most people in the diaspora are?

@m.s9146

Жыл бұрын

@@maryanyone mixed race in my case by dna testing is 63% Caucasian European and 35% African, 2% Asian mostly sub Saharan African (Cameroonians which is amazing because I have numerous Cameroonians friends.) My ex husband is European Greek (we had 3 children) and my only grandchild is therefore 1/4 Greek, her other grandmother is Japanese so 1/4 Japanese, other grandfather is Mexican so 1/4 Mexican - Spanish ancestry and 1/4 from me where she gets about 17% sub Saharan African. Her hair is straight as a board and skin is a Fitzpatrick 2 white. I recently read that it does not take many generations to obliterate an ancestral racial group from decedents. If you had to choose a race other than Caucasian, you would say she is mixed with Asian. So much for myths about the dominance of black African genes.

@maryanyone

Жыл бұрын

​@@m.s9146 ​There is so much confusing about all your math. Firstly, you've done quite a bit to deconstruct groups that I'm not sure are even races? For that matter, are Greeks and Mexicans races? For the record, and based on your definition, most Black people in the Western world are "mixed", even when they display the African phenotypes that made people get classified as Black, which are dark skin and kinky hair. In America, it was simplified to the one-drop rule for Blackness in order to ensure that no one with any hint of African could classify otherwise. Indeed, Sally Hemmings, baby mother of George Washington's children, was only quarter Black by your definition, but she was a slave, and no one ever refers to her as mixed. Then in the Loving landmark case, Mrs Loving identified herself as mixed race. Still, she was seen as Black and her marriage was deemed illegal until the Supreme Court struck it down. It is only in modern times that people have adopted this "mixed" term and only because they've been allowed it. That means that the majority of especially Black women in media and music are not Black. Rihanna, Beyonce, Alicia Keys, Meghan Thee Stallion, Zoe Kravitz, Zoe Saldana, Tessa Thompson, Zendaya will all therefore be mixed. Last stat I heard was that 80+% of Black Americans have some other form of heritage while 60+% of whites do. FYI, that DNA testing is also not the most accurate but certainly, as more people test, the data will become more reliable. Then, I'm not sure about obliteration of any ancestral race or that nonsense about dominance of Black African genes. What does that even mean?! Phenotypes are not what "race" is. It is a fact that stuff has moved down through generations e.g. sickle cell shows mostly in people of African descent. It was an adaptation to malaria. T-Boz of TLC has spoken out about suffering from sickle cell disease and she's as removed from Africa, and malaria, as most Black Americans. I think you're actually making a case that the mixing of your children and grandchildren make them non-African? Isn't that what Meghan Markle claimed even as she is hell bent on believing that her "blackness" caused racism? Bottom line: race is a social construct on which a capitlistic system was built. Rather than aiming to stop it, this new "I'm not Black, I'm biracial or mixed" narrative comes up with all the percentages to substantiate. Read the book Caste. It's a stunning, well researched, factual masterpiece that should help you.

Are you Jamaican heritage

@naturalnadinee

7 күн бұрын

@@CharlotteMasonTT nope I am Zimbabwean 🫶🏾

They actually do make hair sunscreen.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

I should’ve specified For black people the ones I’ve seen don’t be helping😩

@Blue-wv3le

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee I’m going to try the the sunbum spray and hopefully that helps but I’ll probably just cover my hair when out.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

@@Blue-wv3le you can, but I would be careful of the magnesium sulfate in that product, can be drying over time

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Soooooo curly people of no African ancestry would have a less hard time with moisture? (I mean it might be a little drier cause of the oil taking too much to get to the end, but asides from that, yeah?)🤔

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Yes absolutely most curly haired people of non African ancestry don’t even need to moisturise their hair and if they do it’s with a super lightweight product and usually just for defining their curls e.g mousse

@carleflores9065

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee thank you:)

@blue-ck9ns

27 күн бұрын

That’s not true. I know many white and also Latino people with no African ancestry at all who have curly hair. Their hair gets dry and frizzy too, some Latinos can rock a full fro. It doesn’t get AS dry as African hair since the looser curls and thinner hair can hold onto moisture better, but there’s definitely still dryness and frizz.

What about the people of the horn of Africa? They don't have kinky hair so you can't say they have high porosity hair.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Yes they do & you can because kinky is just one way to tell surface texture of the hair but isn’t a main characteristic. People with a silky surface texture can still have high porosity hair

@yonash6469

Жыл бұрын

@@naturalnadinee So my question is would you include people from Somalia, Eritrea and Ethiopia in the so called black people umbrella in regards to hair?

The title of the video instantly reads as click bait because black people are quite diverse whether it be in skin tone or hair. This study samples people with 85% African ancestry. What about those with at least 60 - 70% African ancestry? They're black also. Based on the limited sample, the data in this study does not go far enough to make the blanket statement "black people can't have low porosity hair". I feel that a much wider sample of those with African ancestry is needed. Edited to add that u mentioned at the end that Asians and Caucasians have loads of research on their hair and Blacks do not. This speaks to my comment that a wider sample of those with African ancestry is needed , thus more research. Until then, your blanket statement can't be quantified and, therefore, has not been proven as factual.

@naturalnadinee

26 күн бұрын

alrighty x

@Non-random_Earthling

26 күн бұрын

Well, u did make a sweeping generalization about an entire race based off of a FBI website and a limited number of scientific abstracts you found. You did this even after acknowledging that there's not enough research on Black hair in comparison to Asians and Europeans. Just an observation....

@naturalnadinee

26 күн бұрын

@@Non-random_Earthling alrighty x

@Non-random_Earthling

26 күн бұрын

@@naturalnadinee 🤣🤣🤣

but what about latinas 🥲

@22dolxxxphin22

8 ай бұрын

Latinx can be black, white or mixed. Race and ethnicity are two different things.

@blue-ck9ns

27 күн бұрын

Most “latinas” in the United States are a mix of European and American Indian at varying percentages. Some are also mixed with African, but those ones are often referred to as Afro-Latinos

This is game changing info honestly i totally see now why my hair is not growing. You have shared the final piece to my hair journey puzzle! Thanks so much.🥹😍♥️i am definitely adding the acv rinse to my regimen going forward.

@naturalnadinee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I hope you like it ACV Is a game changerrrrr xx