Hey man, I had to drop a comment on your video, because I feel you would be overjoyed to know this. I am an IB student at Valencia High School in southern California, and one of the requirements to graduate and get my IB diploma is I am enrolled in a philosophy class called Theory of Knowledge. In this class we have just a crazy amount of debates, class discussions, and Socratic seminars tackling world problems and unsolved issues and theories such as Nature vs. Nurture or capital punishment or even politics (it gets pretty heated). Well, I introduced the topic of AI and connected it to Black Mirror where I used a segment from your "White Christmas" analysis in an impromptu, on the spot, presentation to my class to explain cookies and the moral, ethical, and ideological constraints of such a device/concept. Point is I got a class of about 36 Juniors and Seniors ranging from 16-18 years old and even my teacher to get in on this debate and we absolutely loved your video. Not only that, but literally about a hundred and fifty or so kids, all one of the 6 Theory of Knowledge periods, had this debate and watched your video. So just thought you might want to know how much people, especially me, appreciate the content you put out! We should get in contact and I could tell you more, I definitely plan on sharing some of your videos to my period and applying different controversial Black Mirror topics in the future! Much love from the IB class of 2019-2020!!

@FashionForwardAlways

6 жыл бұрын

Saleem Haider good for you man! I went to west ranch! :)

@cr0be

6 жыл бұрын

I watch Rick and morty

@bubble418

6 жыл бұрын

hey fellow IB kids! I go to Mira Loma, in the Greater Sac Area, also in the class of 2020!

@HarrysMovingMedia

6 жыл бұрын

What an incredible comment, never would have thought my videos would be used for educational purposes, thank you so much for spreading the word about my channel!

@CaptainaMARIca

6 жыл бұрын

Saleem Haider As a full diploma student i really appreciate this

They were literally futuristic Nazis without even knowing it.

@shohamdas

5 жыл бұрын

Albert Stewart black people and women in a nazi army?

@jonsnor4313

5 жыл бұрын

Still nazis, killing people based on eugenics makes them nazis.

@funfact6880

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think that's what Nazi means.

@funfact6880

5 жыл бұрын

L I T E R A L L Y H I T L E R

@Operation3Sixty

5 жыл бұрын

@@jonsnor4313 No Nazi's are Germans who killed Jews because of eugenics. These people would have their own name. They share similarities but they aren't the same thing.

Im not gonna lie but when they mentioned "roaches" I actually thought there was gonna be actual humanoid like roaches.

@fothermucka5280

6 жыл бұрын

Ebaula Bola starship troopers lol

@ebaulabola9100

6 жыл бұрын

Fother Mucka Yeah pretty much. Xd

@relatable500

6 жыл бұрын

ME TOO I IMAGINED HUMAN HEADS ON ROACH BODIES

@leonnewkirk1713

6 жыл бұрын

Lol At first I pictured roach heads on human bodies XD

@christianboy7290

6 жыл бұрын

I imagined that they were like giant cockroaches and it kinda scared me...

the fact that the "roaches" were able to reverse engineer that device shows that they actually can be intelligent or genius but are discriminated against.

@authorizeking4027

6 жыл бұрын

Gevoian Thats what I was thinking

@AndreasTabuMuntu

5 жыл бұрын

@HailToTheHorse You mean just like the US Army randomly bombs towns in the Middle East in desperation of locating Al Caida all while killing civilians for no reason at all...That sure as hell makes sense right?

@r.v.b.4153

5 жыл бұрын

It's not just propaganda, iRazenrak. They are persecuted on their specific deficiencies and/or other abnormalities. The people in power nevertheless fail to see the strengths of individuals. They could've utilized people's strengths and limited people on their weaknesses, yet they divided them and either made them "good" or "bad".

@Nobody-tj9jo

5 жыл бұрын

I don’t get why the government thought it was a good idea to attempt to kill them all and wipe them out, just because they had higher rates of disease and sickness in their blood. Like couldn’t they just make laws against them breeding?

@strictlypineapple9308

5 жыл бұрын

HailToTheHorse yet the government literally brainwashed the whole of America and people can’t see that . They have been doing it since day one taking land for oil killing without care and then acting like the people are terrorists and their religion is bad . Fucking disgusting open your damn eyes don’t believe the stuff they shove into you .

I’m surprised no one is talking about how the roach saved Stripe. This shows that they are more human and empathic than those who discriminate against them. Instead of killing him, or seeking revenge, the roaches only want to disable the soldiers’ Mass. I loved that about the plot, it shows that just because they have supposed biological inferiorities, they are just as human as everyone else.

@Nobody-tj9jo

5 жыл бұрын

Big pops yeah....they weren’t even seeking revenge and didn’t want to kill the soldiers, even though they’re trying to kill them. they just wanted to disable their mass system and make them see the truth.

@Vikkstar-xk9gj

5 жыл бұрын

Big pops Dude why would they kill them. Even if they wanted to they need him cause he knows the military routes and be a rat from the inside and feed information. And they also know they are not aware they are killing other humans but monsters so in fact the person they would kill if they were to kill him would be an innocent soldier who couldn’t kill a human being.

@Evija3000

4 жыл бұрын

It probably goes on a case by case basis. This was a woman who was just saved by him. Another person might just kill him. Also just disabling Mass might be a strategic move. If they kill soldiers they show that they are the enemy and just fuel the Military's narrative. But if they can disable the illusion for enough soldiers they might rebel or at least stop killing. They probably don't know the manipulation and mental torture the military uses to make sure that doesn't happen.

@tylerrogers3714

3 жыл бұрын

But a roach killed a soldier with a rifle out from the window. They ALL weren't totally innocent

@danielali6571

3 жыл бұрын

I came here because I ddint get the ending - what new lol. But I did not realise/notice the house when he was looking at it in 3rd person view and the house from normal view being different otherwise I may have got it. But so does this mean he has a gf but she is just a minger?

I always thought the soldier's return was a nod to soldiers returning home with the promise of praise and benefits, but in reality, the government gives you a pat on the back and says "good luck to you".

@aussiebinchicken3037

5 жыл бұрын

do u have experience? Thinking of joining the army but idk if thats a good idea

@khadijahjones2460

5 жыл бұрын

Aussie Bin Chicken join the air Force

@aussiebinchicken3037

5 жыл бұрын

why

@khadijahjones2460

5 жыл бұрын

Aussie Bin Chicken everybody knows it’s the best branch as far as comfort

@lionelaluku4162

5 жыл бұрын

phanatic215 Same here

There were upsetting, disgusting and sad episodes from Black Mirror. But this one takes the cake. Not only was it depressive. It was a dark yet accurate prognosis of how the military could try to create a perfect human weapon.

@HeyHey-ms3oh

6 жыл бұрын

Actually started crying when he was re-living his killings

@jonsnor4313

5 жыл бұрын

Its dark and cynical and i love it.

@alexmehler6765

3 жыл бұрын

human cleansing will come in one form or another , in the near future even

@michealgironimo603

2 жыл бұрын

Playtest hit me the hardest

@internetuser5104

Жыл бұрын

@@alexmehler6765 why do u say that?

“torturing him with empathy” Crazy powerful analysis right there.

@moraps9014

3 жыл бұрын

“killing him with kindness” vibes

@wamiosh7270

3 жыл бұрын

@@moraps9014 the way i was about to comment this

The most slept on Black Mirror episode. Men Against Fire was fuckin Great.

@rincewind_7595

6 жыл бұрын

Muyanzi Reid I agree. I think White Christmas was better but this is really close. Definately better than Nosedive.

you must write really good essays

@noxhedge401

5 жыл бұрын

This is basically a video essay

@smithmcsmith9218

2 жыл бұрын

@Mattress Store You're the second comment to just rehash what a said lmaooo. I'm quite aware this was an essay, which is why I said so.

San Junipero was a much needed happy episode to prepare you for the depressing, terrifying, and fucked up episode that is Men Against Fire.

@bobdistin9650

6 жыл бұрын

Brady Ward lol but it's funny how a happy episode in black is two people dying at then end.Black mirror is truly fucked up

@abeldnite

6 жыл бұрын

San Junipero was pure degeneracy.

@dawidlijewski5105

5 жыл бұрын

San Junipero is very depressing...

@beepst

5 жыл бұрын

San Junipero is way more depressing and terrifying than this episode.

@azzzzzzz05

4 жыл бұрын

@@beepst if you felt war in your skin it would not be

I found it quite ironic how the therapist made the example of WWII being a moment when people needed soldiers to kill their opponents because the entire fate of the world was depending on them and he uses this too justify misleading the soldiers. Then a few moments later he starts talking about how they need to kill off genetically inferior people. Looks like he didn't study history quite as well as he would have us believe.

@pinpon163

6 жыл бұрын

MrSingularity44 Goo catch, it flew over my head.

@Unarmed_Shrapnel

6 жыл бұрын

Nazis

@Kruxxy

6 жыл бұрын

This episode shows what will happen if nazi takes over. The german helmet soldier were wearing explains it all.

@MrSingularity44

6 жыл бұрын

It looks like an American PASGT ballistic Kevlar helmet, so I don't think that was the intention.

@MrSingularity44

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with that. It's just that the helmet the soldiers are wearing isn't exclusively german, but also a modern american army helmet.

Anyone pick up on how the video of him consenting to the terms and conditions of MAS so nonchalantly was making fun of how no one cares to read terms and conditions of services to anything they sign up for? Stripe literally says "that's an essay" and just gives his thumbprint without any hesitation. Look where it got him lmao. Got me all paranoid about terms and conditions service agreements now lol.

@meanberryy

3 жыл бұрын

If you acually read them you'll realize that in most cases the reailty is acually worse than what your paranoia could every imagen. But the worst parts are genereally hidden in the middle burried in text. Take the time to read it all some time, I dare you. Life will not be the same.

@bryantl6768

3 жыл бұрын

I took it as the fact that it is basically children (18 year olds) that are enlisted in the military. He did it did nonchalantly because these young men and women don't fully comprehend what the future consequences of what they're signing up for

@dakotaeldridge7369

3 жыл бұрын

My job in the Army is a 13 Foxtrot Fire Support Specialist. Our job is to call in Artillery and close air support to kill the enemy. Tons of people sign up for the job thinking they're going to be firefighters because the job title has "Fire" in it, and sign their lives away for years without knowing anything about the military or the job they chose....think about that for a minute. The military habitually preys on young men's stupidity and ignorance.

@essp3688

3 жыл бұрын

@@meanberryy Åh, en svensk! Before I started my then new Huawei phone, I took my time to read the terms and conditions, and there was something that made my eyebrow rise (which I don't remember since it was three years ago), it was something about "letting the Chinese government save data about you", in some way. That made me feel like I didn't want to use my phone.

@DeathnoteBB

2 жыл бұрын

@@essp3688 Yeah I think even the American Government does that. It’s creepy don’t get me wrong, but a phone contract is irrelevant

notice how the captain's name is Medina. In the Vietnam war U.S Capt. Ernest Medina was the leader of the platoon that committed the My Lai massacre in which the soldiers killed 300-500 civilian Vietnamese. Only one of the soldiers from that platoon was convicted of any war crimes and served a 3 year house arrest sentence. Brilliant stuff from Brooker

@litjay7073

6 жыл бұрын

abdulla1458 what many people don't know is that wasn't soldiers just killing but following orders given by higher ups.

@totoro-chan7700

4 жыл бұрын

@@litjay7073 Nazi Gestapo did only follow the order from higher up too

@mmaaddict78

2 жыл бұрын

@@totoro-chan7700 That’s why only high ranking officers were tried for war crimes. Not the grunts who saw those orders through.

@Tickerchicken

Жыл бұрын

@@totoro-chan7700 it was that or face a firing squad

This episode also featured the same song that Abi sings in Fifteen Million Merits, as well as Bethany in White Christmas.

@thegossipswan009

6 жыл бұрын

birdcageflo yes, that song is hauntingly beautiful.

@aniyahlawrence8356

6 жыл бұрын

birdcageflo what’d the name? I love that song

@thegossipswan009

6 жыл бұрын

Ms Concave kzread.info/dash/bejne/eZN_m9qsg8fNfdY.html

@aniyahlawrence8356

6 жыл бұрын

thegossipswan009 thanks! But I already found it lol. It’s great!😊

@HeyHey-ms3oh

6 жыл бұрын

I've been watching the episodes in a pretty random order and I've somehow watched those three episodes, which play that song, in a row. Kinda freaked me out because the song hits home.

When I realized what was actually going on, I started balling when he started to show that guy the faces and reactions of those people he killed without the lens...

@danilooparnica458

5 жыл бұрын

me too

@goatedcrafty7733

5 жыл бұрын

What balling means?

@351528

5 жыл бұрын

@@goatedcrafty7733 It means to cry intensely or sob.

@SoUthPARKgUrL215

4 жыл бұрын

Your Nose it’s actually bawling

@mike2207

3 жыл бұрын

Never met someone who plays basketball while watching Black Mirror.

I think you missed some of the paralells with real life. It's a common experience for soldiers to believe they will have a warm welcome and glory when they return home, only to end up living in a dump and getting addicted to PTSD medication.

@hyuugafan2

5 жыл бұрын

sharperguy story of my time in service smh

This made me think of my time in the navy. How I felt it was all bull but I needed the money. Looking back I noticed how recruiters for the military prey on kids who don't have a plan. I didn't get accepted to my choice school and they came to my school in April when everyone already knows what they are doing after grad in May. They made all these claims and I joined like an idiot cause I was homeless and didn't want to go to a shelter. When I got there there were alot of 17 and 18 year old kids like me who were homeless , or didn't get into college so they joined the military.

@TEMILONDON

5 жыл бұрын

iiamkee21 wowww

@ked1224

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. Economic conscription.

@dmacarthur5356

9 ай бұрын

The Navy was very good for me. Gave me an awesome foundation for my future.

@ermanbumaguin8063

6 ай бұрын

Life dealt you cards, stop crying and move on

With the house at the end, I always imagined that the girl and the house was never real, but was an implanted memory from the MASS to give him a purpose to fight. Also, you have one more BM episode to finish before season 4 drops!

@kieakewii

6 жыл бұрын

Tom Thorpe that’s a twist

@sayloss2279

3 жыл бұрын

Well yes if you watch the episode again.. when he came back home, the house was filthy and ugly and also no one was even there. Everything he saw was fake. The girl doesn't exist.

This is probably the best black mirror analysis yet

@HarrysMovingMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you baby

@nimat-lahbalogun9809

6 жыл бұрын

Um okay...

@haimshkolnik2092

6 жыл бұрын

I say it for every episode

Loved this episode. The whole otherisation reminded me of how people talk about terrorism. Like they are cockroaches that just need to be stamped out, and inhuman and such. And we see what good that has done, since 9/11 the approach of stomping out terrorism has just spread it further, you can't kill an idea. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending or sympathizing with terrorists, but when we label people terrorists (which is a subjective term btw, technically any violence for political gain is terrorism) we instantly say that killing them is justified. Obviously humans aren't inherently fans of killing eachother, so you have to otherise the enemy. One of the most thought provoking episodes I thought.

@AnArchyRulzz

6 жыл бұрын

Indeed, even the question he asks at the end is subjective. Is violence ever justified? Well there are a lot of people out there who do believe that violence is okay if it is for the "greater good." And the greater good is obviously subjective too. Terrorists believe they are fighting for the greater good, so do the people fighting them. This episode also seemed to deal with the greater good concept by talking about future generations and how the roaches had to be wiped out to save humanity.

@AnArchyRulzz

6 жыл бұрын

Well I definitely would have done the same thing he did in this episode. Being tortured by those images for the rest of my life? Fuck that. At least if I get my memory wiped I can forget that shit. It also brings up issues of implied consent if people can't remember giving consent. I understand why he took that option. I guess it is similar to most people who go to war, they are haunted by their killings for the rest of their lives and have nightmares and PTSD etc.

@soccerandtrack10

6 жыл бұрын

it's ironic cause I can hear racist propaganda downstairs,fox.

@zaraeraesmith7510

6 жыл бұрын

mm

@RonJeremy514

5 жыл бұрын

"Terrorists believe they are fighting for the greater good, so do the people fighting them" Nope, terrorists believe that Muhammad was right killing people he didn't like, all for the sake of money and power. I don't think they give a shit about the greater good when executing unarmed people. You can't use logic and reason with a terrorist. Some people tried but they got their throats cut then.

I felt this episode referenced a lot of nazi propaganda in my opinion.

@jonsnor4313

5 жыл бұрын

Not just nazi propaganda, US, North Korea, several other dictatorships, Calling the left the devil through the media is propaganda. And not mentioneng the civil causalities in a war, or every other mititaric country, yes russia too.

@adrienrassat1965

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonsnor4313 Because Communism and the USSR wasn't evil? If anything, identifying as Communist or Marxist in Western society is completely tolerated; probably more than being openly pro-capitalism. Not sure where the strong anti-left propaganda lays: CNN, The Guardian, BBC, Buzzfeed, MTV?

@politereminder6284

4 жыл бұрын

True of any propaganda, but especially applicable in preparing societies for genocidal movements. This is what happened in Germany, Rwanda etc before and during genocides. People were marked and given names like cockroach

@sadaesthetic7598

4 жыл бұрын

referenced a lot if american propaganda*

@DaniTheHero

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonsnor4313 "Through the media"? The vast majority of the media and it's heads are far leftists. Pretty much every news station other than FOX news, Twitter, Facebook, Google(KZread) you name it.

This episode was Deep, this might be the Deepest Black Mirror episode’ it seem like they was Exposing how the Military Really is in this episode....

@Lufigueroaa

3 жыл бұрын

exactly, i thought the same

The fact that he was crying in the end and the image of the girl of his dream looked very unfocused, hints that even though he chose to continue to work for the military he still haunted from his past and mass didn’t completely erase his memories.

Dude that cockroach shit scared me I was half asleep then that pops up 😂

I love that religion is portrayed positively when compared to technology here. Religious doctrine here frees the mind (rather than limiting it), inculcates compassion and dignity (instead of hatred and disgust), and calls for peace and reconciliation (rather than war and extermination). It made me seriously consider how both religion and technology can be used and misused. The character of Hiediger is possibly modeled after Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

@ranyaal3013

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I love how it isn’t black and white (as a Muslim) in all shows it’s so normalized to make religious people close minded and mean and ignorant and people with technology smart and sophisticated and open minded it’s nice seeing the opposite at times with black mirror

Gotta give you props for the editing at 3:35 (I think) when your voice saying "stop them coming" syncs with the video. Not that complicated but it goes a long way in the end.

i think this was the most emotional black mirror episode for me. the fact that they dehumanized the enemy to make the killing easier is just chilling. when stripe's memories were replayed without the filter i started sobbing. i tried to put myself in his position and while i was hoping he would say no to reinstalling the MASS, i think i would too if i was in his place. how does one live with all the killing for the rest of their life? the MASS certainly makes it easier for veterans but at what cost... outstanding episode

The roaches removing stripes mass, is like waking up him up to truth that he was blind from. Literally.

Violence can be justified. If your family is being attacked, would you not defend them?

@dawngrrrl

6 жыл бұрын

That's the only justifiable violence imo - defending yourself or someone else who's being attacked.

@DaveWraptastic

6 жыл бұрын

Who's attacking my family? How many enemies do you have?

@rebelraime2524

6 жыл бұрын

Generic Mugger #49

@19Chrisi97

6 жыл бұрын

Critical question. How do you know that an attacker would kill some of your family members? I mean, if you shoot first, even in an act of self defense, this still makes you a murderer.

@dawngrrrl

6 жыл бұрын

wild_world Violence doesn't necessarily mean murder. You can and should defend with non-lethal violence if possible. And if you do kill someone in self-defense it's not considered murder so you're not a murderer. Like a close family member of mine shot her fiancé/father of her oldest in the face back when I was a kid - he'd already broken into her new place and beaten her and then came at her with a knife. No one considers her a murderer; she wasn't even arrested/charged with anything.

this episode genuinely broke me not only is it a dark depiction of the future but it makes you feel the weight of the pain, helplesness and suffering that occurs during war or when genocide occurs. everyone needs to see this

This episode vividly reminds me of the first wave books. Young men and women turned into soldiers with technology, and given a computer chip that makes them see other humans as infected beasts. Only in the books the children rise up against said government and end it.

@YinYang333

Жыл бұрын

this sounds interesting I need to check them out!

though the story was somewhat predictable i still felt sick to my stomach watching the scene where he re-lived the killing without the MASS

@OK-xp5xi

3 жыл бұрын

I agree it was very predictable. You knew what the next step or scene will be. I think the creator didn't want it to be so confusing because not alot of people know too much about the military. I feel like some people or confuse what the military is and does

After watching many of these videos and reading through comments, im disappointed in how much goes over our heads. The show plays a perfect sense of irony of what humans perceive and how we function as a society. Yes they are “made up”, and exaggerated, but these are truths about our world, and yet this show is “entertainment”. People are manipulated and abused, raped and murdered everyday. This shows us our bad decisions and we need to change that mindset and break away what society tells us.

@lizzzarduh

6 жыл бұрын

Yes you've got it. Scary knowing how little viewers I think takes this seriously when it is so important

@commanderhedgehog590

5 жыл бұрын

My point of view is that people don’t really care about a problem, unless it’s in front of their faces. It’s hard to sympathize with a stranger on the other side of the world, when all you can do is try to imagine what their going through, their pain, their struggles, their lifestyles, etc., while only being able to understand with what’s given to us, and being limited to such things as the Internet or word of mouth, which isn’t always reliable, because of false info, or sometimes people or news outlets manipulating or twisting stories, and etc. Bad stuff happens every single day, I think a lot of people get that, but again people become desensitized to it, whether they like it or not, and the reality of it doesn’t really hit people, unless it’s of course right in front of us, or its someone close to us, because we see so many stories and violence played out in movies, tv shows, games, or books every single day, that actual problems in reality don’t seem real to us, even though we’re told it is, and also why people can laugh or joke or troll about it, so yea.

@Dwight511

Жыл бұрын

Won't happen, your mindset will be contained and eradicated by the powers that be.

also: i just realized near the begging when they raid the farm the girl is singing the song from 15 million merits

this episode was sad and really had me thinking, especially in the end when they kept him in that fantasy bubble. No one wins except the people in charge of the mass

To be honest I saw the twist as soon as the main character pulled back the curtain and the roaches didn't attack. This got me think and it may have been my mind or my experience with stories like this one but the twist didn't surprise me one bit.I can still see how people miss it though.

@salmasabry402

5 жыл бұрын

omg,same here. i felt bad bc they looked so scared and didn't attack him at all.

@MizMima

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@DeathnoteBB

2 жыл бұрын

It’s also a common trope, sort of. Other media has it too but obviously it’s a spoiler to explain which.

I don't know why but I think the protagonist did go through that experience multiple times. It seemed it wasn't the first time he went back "home" to his "wife" for vacation. That is why I believe he saw duplicates of that woman in his dreams

@hyuugafan2

5 жыл бұрын

peshmerge44 he probably saw multiple because the psychologically said he was going to get “really good sleep that night”

I have always been scared of the world-since I was a girl. But, Black Mirror makes me terrified of it, and in the best and most emotionally investing way. The amount of beautiful brains that went into this astounding show is unbelievable.

but was his consent video even real? cause "old him" was twitching at the end of the video, similar to how his dreams were buggy

@darkangel4994

4 жыл бұрын

probably not. they just wanna convince the soldiers that what they’re doing is humane

@papasscooperiaworker3649

3 жыл бұрын

what consent video

I'm just surprised that you didn't go into detail on the voice translator and it not picking up the name of a Christian man....makes you wonder..

@dataexpunged6969

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao, don't try to stuff religion everywhere

@nishanth1866

3 жыл бұрын

Leave the explaining to the smart ones next time, please.

@jessicahill6418

3 жыл бұрын

Wow

@fifihudson3450

3 жыл бұрын

Can you expand on what this might imply?

@tannahbananah

3 жыл бұрын

Nishanth ikr that's why I'm giving my opinion! :D

Another aspect that I see in this episode and you dont talk about, It's the culture of war we have, we have movies, we have games, TV shows about how great go to war and killing the enemy, but like this EP we dont se How truly is, we don't sance de smell, hear The scream and nothing I guess part of The episode is how or culture treats war, Just seeing the soldier saves the day, and dont talk about the rest

@ruskibot7745

4 жыл бұрын

Someone's never played spec ops

@pancytryna9378

3 жыл бұрын

Culture of war XD

the state of his house and neighborhood at the end of the episode says something about how the military targets and takes advantage of poor people in order to use them as pawns for their own gain

These videos, it’s like you almost have to watch them after each episode. They’re so insightful and I just wanted to say I appreciated the amount of detail you put into these. Your great work does not go unnoticed. :)

From the first minutes, I knew this was going to be the most depressing Black Mirror episode ever, and it only got worse. The only uplifting moment was the information that most soldiers in the world wars wouldn't actually fire their weapons or would intentionally aim above the other soldiers' heads. A little faith in humankind restored. And no, the wars wouldn't have been over quicker with more kills, since there was a constant supply of more soldiers to replace them. Very interesting that the kill rate in Vietnam went from around 10 to 15 percent to 85. Was it all drugs?

@DeathnoteBB

2 жыл бұрын

Probably due to the booby traps and gas

@internetuser5104

Жыл бұрын

the dehumanized the enemy much more effectively in the vietnam war im pretty sure and being that they weren’t white and a lot of the fighting happened in the jungle they had that “otherness” to them that the military exploited

Thank you so much for this comprehensive and unbiased analysis of Men Against Fire. The complexity of the thought that goes behind this clever episode doesn't often receive enough credit it deserves.

One question I have is why was the guy crying at the end? The only answer I could think of was that he could remember the things that had supposedly been clearer from his mind. But that wouldn't really make sense. Maybe he was glad to be home to his perfect wife and home, as it appeared to him. Maybe they just couldn't think of a decent ending! Any thoughts?

@georjiep4338

6 жыл бұрын

Richard Hawkins that's what I was thinking! I can't find a answer anywhere...

@barbara149

6 жыл бұрын

I may be wrong, but I think he was maybe imagining his girfriend (the girl we saw through the episode), because it seemed he had a flashback when he saw the house. Perhaps she was also a roach and now that he doesn't know it's because of the MASS, he got sad or something. That is my view on it.

@livvierae5004

6 жыл бұрын

Something must have happened to his wife(?) but that information isn’t given to us, we only know that when he returns home his house is damaged and not like it used to be, his wife is also gone, you can also see his eyes are silver like in “the entire history of you” when they look back at their memories through their eyes, it might be linking the episodes which is something black mirror does a lot, if he is just seeing what once happened he might be mourning over the loss of his wife

@lizzzarduh

6 жыл бұрын

the house isn't really his house, just a place the military gave him to go because that is the typical "returning home from the military" scenario and the girlfriend isn't real, just in his mind which they created using his "mass" and he has tears streaming his face because again that is the typical emotional scene of man returning home to his lady from war or whatever so it is just to signify the meaning we give to those events

@jonsnor4313

5 жыл бұрын

He subconcisly knows its a lie or remembers that while not being aware of it on my take

DUDE, all of your analysis videos are INCREDIBLE

Thanks was waiting for this video. This is my favorite episode by far.

The scene in the 1984esque white room is absolutely amazing

One of my Favorite Black Mirror episodes....Might be the most Underrated Black mirror episode too

The movie “5th Wave” had the same concept

@jackcohen4931

6 жыл бұрын

But done in a dull completely average romance plot and they brought in Liev Schreiber how typecast as the guy that changes sides so predictable.

bro lisen, i think the ending was a little diffrent. the house he came back to was "marked", i think his girl was a roach.

@doublestufftruffle

6 жыл бұрын

Arvin van dam I don't think so. I think it was a statement about the fantasy that the military puts out. That when you come home it will be to a beautiful home with a beautiful wife when in reality many come back to live in low income areas forever alone.

@mori5271

4 жыл бұрын

I thought she was a roach too.

@alex_estrella_

3 жыл бұрын

the girlfriend wasnt real, it was another trick to make him believe he had someone to return to after war ends.

As soon as they said "roaches" before stripe had his first kill, I knew it would be humans being hunted. Then we finally see the "monstrous" version of the "roaches" and I got confused again lol. But the MASS chip thing was a mind blown moment. Makes so much sense

I LOVED this episode. It is brilliant that the filmmaker was able to relay the message of this. This was my favorite episode oh, it's stuck in my head and I told so many people about it. But of course I could not tell them too much because I did not want to give away what was happening. I do remember however that as soon as I heard them say they were going to kill roaches something in my head new what was probably coming because I was aware of Rwanda and Germany. Everyone needs to see this episode of Black Mirror, it is so important. I wanted to Pace the episode on Facebook so I looked it up on KZread. I am really excited to find your video about it. You even mentioned things that I was unaware of from watching it I feel like I want to watch it many times. Thank you so much for this is Brian and necessary for people to understand how perception can be twisted, controlled and used to make us fight against each other. Thank you

You're one of my favorite channels, I hope to see more videos soon!

Two videos in two days? Well done, hope we get this more.

Shmeckles

@denzy2389

6 жыл бұрын

Harry's Moving Castle hambingo

@-Berry.

6 жыл бұрын

Harry's Moving Castle isn’t that a rick and morty currency

''Sonic Screwdrivered by one of the roaches'' You sir, deserve a noble prize for that line alone.

@ZNotFound

6 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. While watching the episode I immediately thought that is was a sonic screwdriver.

I used this idea of ethics in my CE classes and the analysis videos u make are a lot of help!

I really appreciated this review. Harry helped me understand exactly what happened in the episode and I appreciate it more now.

I was high as shit watching this then everyone started talking about roaches I was so confused 😂

I would show my parents this episode, but I can't because of the sex scenes

@JadaSnacks

6 жыл бұрын

Bass Knight fast forward through them

@fothermucka5280

6 жыл бұрын

Bass Knight why? Have they never seen stuff like that before

@GoneDefault

6 жыл бұрын

Bass Knight lmao what do think they did for you to exist..

@DoctorTheo

6 жыл бұрын

Still tho, I will be practically be watching porn with my parents

@GoneDefault

6 жыл бұрын

Bass Knight lmao yeah technically, but at least the scene doesn't last long

This is truly one of the most substantial tv series I have ever had a privilege of watching and great break down... and scared even more

I come to your videos after every episode to get a second opinion/ a better processing of the episode than one my brain can come up with. Thank you.

The twist was very predictable but it was still a thought-provoking. entertaining espisode

the most underrated black mirror episode for sure

One of your best analysis videos to date

good stuff man, I'm digging the analysis of this show - waiting for S4 :D

Violence can never be justified. Fight me.

@derickgabrillo1579

6 жыл бұрын

Javier Sánchez Panduro "self-defence" is an excuse many people run to, but it's still just more violence and more pain. There's really no point to it in my view. There are other ways to fight violence, that's why we have legal systems. That being said, I still think I'd personally resort to violence in the face of an attack but that's basic human instinct. We as a species need to get past that instinct. If you think about it, all nearly all conflicts are the result of that basic instinct triggered by fear of our own kind. I'm not sure if what I said made sense but close enough I guess.

@FIVEPT5

6 жыл бұрын

When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun When the law break in How you gonna go? Shot down on the pavement Or waiting on death row

@MrKmas508

6 жыл бұрын

Derick Gabrillo What kind of pseudo intellectual bullshit is this. Get over the human compulsion for “self defence”. You do realise that there will ALWAYS be people who are psychopaths (hell even conflicts of interest can persuade people to do terrible things) who will kill you if you get the chance. So if they attack you propose we just die then? If you tolerate the intolerant then tolerance will end, it’s a paradox but that’s how the real world works. Instead of teaching people that the highest virtue is passiveness and frankly being a pussy, we should teach them to fight evil and love good. That’s the easy part, the hard part is figuring out what’s what but that’s the human experience.

@derickgabrillo1579

6 жыл бұрын

MrKmas508 Well, you're right, there will always be psychos but you need to understand that it's not really much of a choice for most of them because well, they're psychos. You can't really blame them since their thinking processes are impeded by their condition. And yes humans can be easily persuaded to commit horrific acts and find was to justify them but that's all the more reason to try to overcome this basic human instinct to react violently when a threat is perceived in OUR OWN species. With that mentality we won't last more than a couple of centuries. All it takes is one trigger happy idiot on the button who's blinded by fear.

@metawyrm

6 жыл бұрын

Nice irony. You did intend that, right?

He didn't mention the ww2 German helmets that the soldiers were wearing. I wonder if this is a universe in which Germany won WW2.

@VeggieNatureGirl

6 жыл бұрын

That's an interesting observation!

@jackcohen4931

6 жыл бұрын

And the V Placed like a swastika on the helmets and the flags.

@tommyatkins2527

6 жыл бұрын

Nathaniel Heron actually it's a American helmet painted dark grey but yes it does look german

@dawidlijewski5105

5 жыл бұрын

No, that's PASGT helmet, ww2 German helmet were modernized WW1 helmets, and many nations used simillar pattern.

@Phenomenal36

4 жыл бұрын

Possibly, and perhaps the “roaches” were Russian/Slavic people

An actual grate analysis nuthing left out

your video's are incredible ...thank you!

When they were talking to the villagers about the roaches the translation device refused to translate something. Could it have been something that conflicted with the artificial reality mass had created?

@lucychristopher5150

4 жыл бұрын

it was a name I'm pretty sure

@burlin5897

11 ай бұрын

The villagers are talking danish, and the translation device is actually pretty good. it is the name of the man they are looking for, it won't translate.

Violence can only be justified if it is used to stop more violence from happening. Most everything else can be solved passively.

@cityuser

6 жыл бұрын

Stop violence with more violence?

@grandsome1

6 жыл бұрын

I think he refers to WWII and personal defense.

@bigfrogs4207

6 жыл бұрын

see no its not an absolute like that. you can use that itself to justify the events that happen in men against fire. the "roaches" supposedly had higher rates of committing crime, thusly you could reason that more "roaches" exist, more crime, more crime more violence, kill all the "roaches". you can never boil down human lives to a simple yes or no kill or not be killed, it has to be entirely subjective

@rincewind_7595

6 жыл бұрын

hooked on a theevan i see that.

@rincewind_7595

6 жыл бұрын

hooked on a theevan but as I said the "roaches" could be helped and their disabilities could be mitigated. Extermination is the first thought when dealing with a disease but as you said (more or less) human lives cannot be put on the same level as their inperfections. Voilence is not the answer here because these "roaches" have yet to anything wrong.

Appreciate your videos mate :)

This episode has opened my mind to so much

Considering all the black mirror possibilities, this is one of the better scenarios

This would be a great series. I hope they make one

This episode was so cool, and I loved the apocalyptic aesthetic of the villagers and towns!

Fantastic analysis!

Media/politics puts a lense over our eyes to see what they want us to see, not what we are supposed to see. Our reality is different from the reality they want us to have.

Expectation: Roaches with Human Body Reality: Faces of the Wrong Turn

Such a great episode

i was looking through this playlist and i can't believe i forgot about this episode.

honestly I think that the short film "uncanny valley" captured this episode's concept very well before black mirror tried it. Possibly inspired this episode.

As a veteran who has been to war this episode really hit home. I see it as we are creating our own enemies.

brilliant analysis

Love the analysis of this video it is perfect ! Plus this is my favorite episode ! 7:27

This episode f u c c e d me uuuuuup!

The interrogation scene reminded me of the beginning of "Inglourious Basterds".

@zanacoskates8378

3 жыл бұрын

Damn i knew that was it . Shultz killed that scene

I’m not sure how many episodes I have left to go, but I watched a good number of them and this one is my favorite episode so far.

The ending of this really made me cry he lost it all and doesn't know it

3:03 I knew i wasn't the only one who thought that

0:17 Did you just predict Metalhead?

this made me cry so bad

Very deep episode 🤦🏾‍♀️I'm gobsmacked 🙆🏾‍♀️🤯

In the episode arkangel they show the scene of the girl shooting the wall, ironic both episodes touch on framing and filters

Violence is only justufied for self defense

@bigfrogs4207

6 жыл бұрын

define self defense. if you stretch the definition of self defense, the actions taken in men against fire IS self defense. this is the issue. human lives cannot be boiled down to an objective rule.

@Poetabrasileiro

6 жыл бұрын

Like Microagressions?

@Dantick09

6 жыл бұрын

In what world is that self-defense? They people hiding have the only moral high ground here

@simaopereira3697

6 жыл бұрын

For an act to be classified as self defense, it must be in response to a human and voluntary act that is either current or imminent, and the damage caused by self defense can´t be unporportuanaly superior to what would have happned without self defense.

@Johan-st4rv

6 жыл бұрын

and ethnic cleansing

I love how the soldier's base is actually the pitlane from the Silverstone Grand Prix circuit.