KZread Commenters - What do they know? Do they know things? Let's find out!

@baka-chan9667

6 жыл бұрын

Harry's Moving Castle they don't

@ozzymandias8137

6 жыл бұрын

The Geek it’s you.

@probablynot8154

6 жыл бұрын

What is this, a cross over episode?

@nightowl8477

6 жыл бұрын

Oh whoa I'm subbed to you

@caad5258

6 жыл бұрын

They know a reference to Bojack Horseman

*Within the first few minutes, the arcade nerd invited her to play the side-scrolling game. He tells her that game has two different endings, depending on if one person plays, or two people finish out their adventure together.*

@sycoraxrock

6 жыл бұрын

It's also probably the first hint that they're not "really" in 1987 - the kid in the arcade says "it *was* the first game with two different endings" as if he's talking about the game as a historical artifact. I could be wrong about this, but: I know Bubble Bobble came out in 1986 in Japan, but I *think* it came out later in the US - most of the English language reviews are from *late* 1987. Yorkie seems to be familiar enough with the game that, if this really *was* '87, there's a really slim window of time that scene could be taking place in if it was real. Regardless, you can tell this episode was written by a guy who got his start as a video game critic. :)

@ColorOfSakura

6 жыл бұрын

I also think its telling that later when Yorkie goes looking for Kelly in 2002, she's there with the arcade guy playing a *Dancing Simulator* (DDR), and not actually on the dance floor.

@84blizzle

6 жыл бұрын

TIN MAN HOANG Good observation!

@84blizzle

6 жыл бұрын

sycoraxrock This episode, along with most BM episodes, if you watch them a second time you pick up on a lot of the subtext in the dialogue.... like, it's not obvious but you know something's more than it seems. I actually just started watching most of BM for the second time and I have even more appreciation for it's writing. I can't wait for the new season, so I can over think every little moment and try to figure out how it's gonna play out lol.

@andred766

6 жыл бұрын

TIN MAN HOANG that's an amazing theory and find

I think I realized it was a simulation when I saw the drinks were free.

The ending actually made me really sad. They're at different points in their life - for Yorkie, this is really the beginning of her life. Kelly, on the other hand, is tired. She's had a long, full life of love and heartbreak. It felt like it would be right for her to go, either to be with her husband and daughter or just to finally be "done". For Yorkie, this was the opportunity to finally *live* and that meant San Junipero was definitely the right choice for her. Plus, being trapped in her own mind like that for the majority of her life, I feel like Yorkie was mentally much younger than Kelly. Yet at the same time, I don't know that the alternative ending (Kelly not staying with Yorkie) would have felt right either.

@ANGRYGREEKMANYO

6 жыл бұрын

Dinah Lance Kelly never got to be with a female.....

@SirNanonaut

6 жыл бұрын

Dinah Grace I wholeheartedly agree with you. It was hard to pinpoint exactly why I felt sad at the end, but I think you nailed it

@WannabeWriter100

6 жыл бұрын

ANGRYGREEKMANYO We don't know that. We just know that Kelly married a guy who she said she loved very much. She may very well have had both boyfriends and girlfriends before she fell in love with him. Edit: Unless I'm forgetting something she said in the episode. To be fair, it has been a while since I watched it.

@WannabeWriter100

6 жыл бұрын

Travis Carlson Thanks! Glad I wasn't the only one

@chicji4152

6 жыл бұрын

Rainy Day she said she had crushes on girls but never really acted on them

This episode was actually touching

@bd_asian

6 жыл бұрын

I saw that cumming

@quasar4601

5 жыл бұрын

I saw it last night and wow.. Very touching ..my brain was going crazy when they kept jumping time and did not age and I could not figure it out. lol

@Jarsia

5 жыл бұрын

it was a nice palate cleanser after Shut up and Dance

@GirlyEnglishGamer

5 жыл бұрын

I found it boring

@Auzzie015

4 жыл бұрын

The earlier seasons were wonderful because of episodes as well written as Sam Junipero. Great story, characters, explores the influence of tech in a creative way and contributes meaningfully to relevant social issues. It really was beautiful to watch.

I just remember someone at the beginning of the episode saying something along the lines of, "I mean, these people act so, dead." "Pretty lively for dead people."

@cliterally

5 жыл бұрын

Kelly said this

@ericjaramillo1381

5 жыл бұрын

Wes said the first line doe

@zt3853

3 жыл бұрын

@@ericjaramillo1381 hold up do you guys know each other?

The shots of the cookies in the gigantic data base device while you hear "Oooohhh, heaven is a place on earth......" in the end. Just genius.

@levim.3505

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah it really gives the song a literal meaning, genius by all means.

@animalfinatic9366

5 жыл бұрын

TheBloodiac it made me so sad in a unsettling way

@calaytialeighjacobs4013

5 жыл бұрын

Yip

@rybolfc

5 жыл бұрын

Just little things like this are genius and amazing. This is why I love Black Mirror. Beautiful episode.

@darania1

3 жыл бұрын

Digital dreaming for eternity...

I cant even watch an analysis of San Junipero without crying at the end...

@dena81

6 жыл бұрын

that ending gets me every time and now I want to watch the episode again.

@SendyTheEndless

6 жыл бұрын

When Heaven Is A Place On Earth kicks in. MUST... HOLD... IN... EYE... LIQUID!

@chanceneck8072

6 жыл бұрын

Me neither! But This channel does do some great reviews and analyses!....

@chanceneck8072

6 жыл бұрын

OMG, I´m literally crying now, WATCHING KZread! *STOP IT!!*

@natkoori123

6 жыл бұрын

Me too! Im crying right now and have Heaven is a Place on Earth stuck in my head. :')

You totally miss the line about the video game having "two different endings, depending on if you choose one player or two player", which can mean that Kelly could either be buried with her family, or she can stay with Yorkie. And the ending showed Yorkie alone, then having Kelly show up.

@Guadalupe7499

6 жыл бұрын

Isabella DiLorenzo OMG!!!! YOU'RE RIGHT

@harrylee1223

6 жыл бұрын

How do you people catch this kind of shit. All you people make me feel incompetent.

@alphakennybody4997

6 жыл бұрын

HK Studios fr

@katesthgreat7552

5 жыл бұрын

Bandersnatch anyone??? Wow. Reminds me of Collin Ritman.

@katesthgreat7552

5 жыл бұрын

@@keenanpaterson783 lol...saw this after I posted my comment. Right on!!

San Junipero is a happy Dystopia or a sad Utopia. It's a contradiction for so many reasons. Mainly because Yorkie is a "girl" who for the first time experiences love. But she experiences love in her technology form not in her human form. That's the sad part. Life wasn't fair to her & in this universe, she's finally free. Able to walk, run, talk, dance, feel through technology. Which is amazing and terrifying at the same time. Even though Yorkie and Kelly don't possess a body, their feelings are presented as real as can be. They can enjoy "the miracle of living" in their afterlife. SJ has that bitter sweet vibe throughout. It depends on how you see it. It's a happy ending for the unfortunate ones. And heaven can be any place on earth or earth alike place, only if love comes first (:

@arami187

6 жыл бұрын

You're over thinking it.

@minalsingla6357

6 жыл бұрын

Its her brain/mind/heart that is loving in the both human and in the VR. So she is still feeling the emotions and they are still equally real. My contradiction starts from the point when the body dies and they can still feel those emotions. I can agree that memories can be stored, its difficult to understand storing of consciousness but its nearly impossible for me to understand how emotions are executed because they are taking place because of chemicals and hormones being controlled in our body

@tunabayer535

6 жыл бұрын

there is no overthinking when it comes to black mirror

@matl1593

6 жыл бұрын

But what's the difference in doing it in her human form, as opposed to the digital. Her consciousness is the same, and her brain experiences the same reactions she normally would. The simulation simulates the physical. I believe it's also an important question in relation to the episode. What's real and what's not? How do you define it? If it feels real, it must be real, and even if you do not define it that way, it doesn't matter - it will still feel real. Cogito Ergo Sum.

@numerical25

6 жыл бұрын

There are applications Today that simulate neural networks. But this type of technology will be a long way off. What we see in this episode will come when we are able to create robots with simulated emotions. In computer Science this period in time is called the IT singularity for those interested in knowing about this. But not only will we have to Simulate emotions, but vision, motors and sensors as well. What I am most afraid of about technology like this is bugs and glitches. Even today, we can simulate worlds with video games but how often do games crashe, or we slip through a wall and get stuck there, or fall through the floor and literally fall forever. Almost like Vanilla sky. There would have to be constant GM's in the simulation answering to people "Tech Support!!!" when or if something goes wrong.

Huh, I never realized how much meaning the songs gave to the episode. All I thought about was how catchy "Can't get you outta my head" was for like a month.

@doxasophosmoros

6 жыл бұрын

Yames which song?? By who? If you think it's the one by Minogue you're a fucking moron.

@bennolaaa

6 жыл бұрын

TessLo great song?

@stephengrigg5988

5 жыл бұрын

I can never hear "heaven is a place on earth" without thinking of this episode. Guardians of the galaxy 2 did something similar with the song "brandy" in the way that the lyrics provide deeper meaning to the story

@TheBeardedDragon2112

4 жыл бұрын

@Yames It always bothered me that it was supposed to be 1996, but they were playing Kylie's song from 2001 lol

@nickmackechnie7073

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBeardedDragon2112 that was when they time traveled to 2002.

I always go here everytime I finish an episode of Black Mirror. It helps me understand the complex nature of this Black Mirror universe and makes me appreciate every epsode even more.

@JOK3RC4RDx

5 жыл бұрын

Literally bro

@rybolfc

5 жыл бұрын

Its weird, when I come on KZread to understand the complex of it I cried like a bitch.

Sexuality, immortality, and virtual reality? That's a lot of ALITY!

@ArvindhMani

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's pure insanity! ... i tried

@KaylaJohnson1995

6 жыл бұрын

Lol Ross pretty much predicted this episode.

@TiciTotyTony

6 жыл бұрын

FATALITY!!!

@ChronicallyCurious

6 жыл бұрын

Yes! We need all of the alities!! The writers should make a challenge for themselves of it! 😁

@WillBlacksilver

5 жыл бұрын

Eternity on earth is banality with no finality. I loved the thoughtful song choices and discality... ography

In school we’d be analysing Shakespeare plays and poems.. before we know it school students will be analysing Black Mirror episodes 🙊

@emmanuellaasare7943

5 жыл бұрын

Aamna Waheed I was thinking this too !

@JustDeenie

5 жыл бұрын

I'm actually watching this video because at University one of the modules I'm studying is about using Black Mirror to analyse our society. I'm writing an essay about this episode!

@JANSON3103

5 жыл бұрын

They definitely should!

@GusMadsen

5 жыл бұрын

We just watched and studied the episode "Nosedive" in school. I need to mention it in my oral exam:)

@marilynmonhoe561

5 жыл бұрын

lol we already are my ap philosophy teacher puts it on for us.

I understand why so many people think San Junipero stands out due to its 'upbeat' ending, but I can also see how very Black Mirror it actually is. Kelly's speech about her commitment to her husband who chose not to cross over to San Junipero and how their daughter never got the option to cross over was really touching, and also what I think makes the episode so depressing in a way. Though Kelly initially rejects San Junipero for favor of going wherever her family are, she ends up choosing the artificial reality anyway. You could interpret this as society choosing to worship and have faith in technology over religion nowadays, and how all these people in San Junipero are just walking ghosts forever, little lights on a wall of memory sticks. Are their minds actually in San Junipero, or is this just like in Be Right Back- an imprint of who they were based on collected information about them, essentially just making them data acting out who they were. Yes, it's upbeat in its own way, but it always made me quite sad that all these people chose a fake, never ending world. The comment on how people were committing suicide just for early access to San Junipero further shows how obsessed people are with technology. We're getting too good at it, and if a simulation like San Junipero ever does exist, what is life worth anymore? What is pain, and death, worth, when we can just...not.

@manco828

6 жыл бұрын

Agreed, it's a very disturbing episode.

@ShinLuu

6 жыл бұрын

Life isn't worth anything or is it? That's up to you and it will always be up to you.

@hamerplayer1229

6 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I thought. Kelly decides to reject faith and the belief of the human soul. So if there is a true chance at the after life she has symbolically rejected it and doomed her chance at seeing her husband and daughter again. The fact still remains that if there is an after life Kelly will still be reunited with her husband and daughter. Her cookie would be in the simulation at the same time and there would be two Kellys.

@lexi9658

6 жыл бұрын

They can still feel pain tho if they want to, that’s why they have pain sliders they can set to zero

@Ty-op5xr

6 жыл бұрын

Something people forget about San Junipero is that they aren't there for enternity.

Also, all her outfit changes and the songs related to some cultural period. Like don't you forget about me, she was dressed like Molly Ringwalds character in breakfast club where that song became popular.

@aberri12311

6 жыл бұрын

also the hair was done how the other girl in breakfast club had her hair post makeover

@BugsMcCoy

6 жыл бұрын

Also the black get up looks a lot like Shania Twain's 'Man I feel like a Woman' which would be fitting.

@BugsMcCoy

6 жыл бұрын

You're so right! I always forget that video was an homage. I feel like a fool now, haha.

@bearfectaj4926

6 жыл бұрын

I thought it was to 16 candles?

@siray3232

6 жыл бұрын

actually she didn't dress like Molly Ringwald, but as Allison - the dark-dressed girl from the Breakfast Club who receives a girly makeover from Ringwald's character at the end of the movie

The writers of Doctor Who should take note on how to write gay and lesbian people properly. Could you image if this was written by Steven Moffat? She'd probably start off by telling that kid at beginning "No I don't want to play that arcade game with you, I'm not into BOYS" and saying to Kelly "I don't suppose you know any LESBIANS around here, because I would sure like to find one *nudge nudge wink wink*" before reaffirming her sexuality throughout the entire rest of the episode...

@josawesome1

6 жыл бұрын

Robin Powell Funny Story, Charlie Brooker had to turn down an offer to write a Doctor Who episode so that he could work on Season 3.

@jonyshelby

6 жыл бұрын

Brilliant.

@robo3007

6 жыл бұрын

So? It would have worked just as well if they were straight. The sexuality of the couple wouldn't have mattered, as it shouldn't.

@lynn2591

6 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't have worked quite the same? One of Yorkie's struggles is that her family disowned her because she's a lesbian. I feel like that was a big part of her character and shouldn't be so easily dismissed.

@sheenapatricio2418

6 жыл бұрын

Well if it did happen Brooker would just have to change the reason why she was disowned etc and certain parts will obv fall in a different path. But yeah SJ is written as great as it can ever be in the way it is.

I think it's also interesting how Kellys religious views influenced her struggle with staying in San Junipero. What if real heaven did exist? Did she in fact choose a simulated heaven over the real heaven in which she could reunite with her family, that could even be waiting for her? But then comes the question of what part of you would go to real heaven anyway, if it's the mind, exactly like San Junipero, you could assume that San Junipero overtook her mind first, before real heaven did. If it's the soul that's moved, then what? Maybe there are in fact 2 versions of you and the one in San Junipero is simply a clone of one's consciousnesses, not the real you.

@JamesSmith-hr9cn

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly right. She took the option of San Junipero not knowing whether or not there was or is something else which awaits us at death. Brave decision.

@fubatches

6 жыл бұрын

Is it a brave decision or is it a safe decision?

@latioswarr3785

6 жыл бұрын

I think she decided to give a digital copy to her girlfriend so she would be happy.

@JamesSmith-hr9cn

6 жыл бұрын

Now THAT is interesting

@SuperSilverTrees

6 жыл бұрын

Hmm considering that heaven is just human made up place, I would say she chose right. Think about it where was heaven before religion?? Why do only humans have souls? What if you have mental disorder or someone is born with it, does he or she has the same soul as I do... Basically I would rather belive in technology as our collective achievement that would give as an actual heaven.

This episode hurt my brain trying to understand

@ale997

6 жыл бұрын

Clit Crew right!!

@halliemadigan4840

6 жыл бұрын

same

@themasterflo98

6 жыл бұрын

This episode is not that deep actually

@ghostfvce2151

6 жыл бұрын

Clit Crew same which is why I have to say it’s my least favorite of season 3

@brandonbrando75

6 жыл бұрын

Clit Crew its really not that hard to follow though

I'm a grown man and this fucking episode left me in tears

@NoirAtrum

6 жыл бұрын

Because being a grown man makes it weird to cry..

@KekeeBlack

6 жыл бұрын

Yall are mean I mean he probably doesn't cry that often. My husband cried too though lol

@II-gj1jw

6 жыл бұрын

Shut yo sensitive ass up.

@II-gj1jw

6 жыл бұрын

Nevermind I just cried

@JohnJones-ri7pi

Жыл бұрын

Yep I was in bits after this one

Thi episode is a fucking masterpiece!!!! Congrats on the two Emmy wins!!!

@devo229

6 жыл бұрын

Ivo Stoyanov just watched this episode last night and it was fantastic

@Hybernia1

6 жыл бұрын

This episode sucked

@MsRobotJam

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hybernia1 I like

@Jamieconstable

Жыл бұрын

@@Hybernia1 it’s overrated but still good

There are so many details to pull from this episode. Right at the start there is a billboard for The Lost Boys. A movie about vampires who are immortal and remain young forever. The while episode is full of subtle details. I like how you analysed all the songs used too. Although Clint Mansells OST for the episode is incredible. This episode actually made me excited about the future not scared for it like all the ither episodes haha.

@ryanawe6190

6 жыл бұрын

Luke Pearce And he forgot about the line in Ironic that says “it’s like raining on your wedding day” because when the black chick crashes the Jeep after they get married it instantly starts raining.

Hands down this show is the best thing I’ve ever seen.

@quasar4601

5 жыл бұрын

The original TZ from 1960-64 Is even better but this stuff is damn good

@KumarKaneswaran-KumarKanes

4 жыл бұрын

This one episode should have gotten an academy award

@KumarKaneswaran-KumarKanes

4 жыл бұрын

@@quasar4601 do u have a link for this

@alpine0054

4 жыл бұрын

@@quasar4601 you have the source? let us know

Just finished watching! The writers of black mirror are amazing! This episode was everything! A glimpse to what our future may hold. Loved every minute of it 👌🏼

@thecinematicmind

6 жыл бұрын

Kathleen Xo All thanks to Charlie Brooker. Who has won 2 Emmys for this episode. While I'm more a fan of Nosedive and Shut Up and Dance, I cannot deny of this powerful, emotionally touching episode.

@arami187

6 жыл бұрын

It's not the same as seasons 1 & 2.

@Sacra898

6 жыл бұрын

^true that.

@KumarKaneswaran-KumarKanes

4 жыл бұрын

Such an unbelievable episode

@maxiver808

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. This episode blew me away. The endings have been so bleak this was a refreshing twist to the usual hopeless BM episodes.

This episodes thrusts me into so many emotional states in such a short time that I can hardly deal with them all. Even just hearing the soundtrack playing in the back of your video brings tears to my eyes. I love it so much.

@ANGRYGREEKMANYO

6 жыл бұрын

DingalingChaos Same homie. no episode made me feel this way and those were suppose to be sad.

@vincenzosanzaproulx4665

6 жыл бұрын

DingalingChaos lol I knw right

@Red88Rex

6 жыл бұрын

Same. I'm a gay female and how strongly I identify with Yorkie's character almost literally twists my stomach in knots. Just fantastic storytelling.

Perhaps I'm alone in this but I did find the ending of the episode a little bit pessimistic/unsettling. They cut off the scene of the couple having a great time in San Junipero, to a shot of their consciousnesses (what essentially looks like a junk drive) being uploaded into a large computer system. Somewhat to indicate that their happiness is a high tech illusion. Or even deeper, that the human mind can be manipulated and programmed like a machine. On another topic, I talked to my sister about this, one thing I find interesting is that the technology is similar to another episode "White Christmas". So I'm wondering if separating consciousness is a feasible concept or if Yorkie and Kelly in San Junipero (after "crossing over") are really just mindless digital simulations of Yorkie and Kelly when they were alive, "digital ghosts".

@latioswarr3785

6 жыл бұрын

Indys Using the black mirror universe rules (not real rules) then they are not copys of themselves but they are the original, they just transferred.

@davidbarroso1960

6 жыл бұрын

Indys I would do it because there would be no different between reality and virtual reality. You already exist in a bubble. You only exist in your brain, and your sensory organs get information from the outside world and interprets in your head. Everything you see and hear is created in your head. You don’t actually interact with reality. It would be no different than being inside a hard drive instead of a brain.

@bakirev

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was kind of jarring. Im like sitting there and crying and shit and cuts to that, made it feel weird for a second.

@darania1

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alwaysindys We already biologically do exactly that when we dream...

this is one of my favorite pieces of television ever produced.

This episode gives me existential melancholy, it's a strange ending. They're dead but not; if their minds in their entirety really are in those capsules connected to the San Junipero "server", then technically they could be put back into the real world if these were placed into an artificial bodies, making the ritual of their real world burial seem meaningless. An upbeat way to think of their funeral is a metamorphosis, the shedding of their organic skin while they live as a new form. Although, I already think of death in general as a very long metamorphosis

@alexb3617

6 жыл бұрын

that would be very beneficial next step to have android bodies of sorts. but it somehow seems more likely that they will trash those simulation individuals rather than bring them back in real world

@catfeliciano3416

6 жыл бұрын

Oooh like in “be right back”. They could transfer their consciousness into one of those ready-made bodies that would add all their features to it

@88feji

10 ай бұрын

umm ... probably due to time constrain, the story did not go deeper into the struggle between one's religious beliefs about the afterlife Vs the artificial man made afterlife... It seems the husband chosing not to try out the artificial afterlife may also be due to his belief in the traditional afterlife, maybe he believes the dead daughter might be waiting for him in THAT non-artificial type of traditional afterlief .... which makes it difficult for the wife who has found a new love and has to chose between which one to follow, the old love vs the new love, the traditional afterlife or the artificial afterlife ... The show could have fleshed out this struggle more but its only lightly touched upon when she says that she does not believe in the traditional afterlife ....

I'm not sure but didn't they say in the Episode that you can end the Simulation whenever you like. I mean when you are already dead and only exist in the computer. So you can end it before it gets an boring torture like in white Christmas.

@flashrabbit9

5 жыл бұрын

You’re right they did say that but how

@sarahthomas8670

2 жыл бұрын

@@flashrabbit9 true

This episode really shows there’s no good outcome of death. You could exist in paradise for eternity, but it’s intimidating how unimaginable eternity really is. Paradise would also seem to be too boring to go on forever, as many of the most important points in life are flaws and mistakes. There’d be no point in taking risks or improving yourself and the rest of the world if there’s no repercussions to your actions. But eternal darkness is just as hard to picture, and believing in something as positive as paradise is much easier to swallow in comparison to losing everything you’ve made during life. I couldn’t sleep the whole night after watching this episode, gave me one hell of an existential crisis.

Am I the only one sad about the guy in the arcade? He never got treated fairly and never had anyone show interest of him. We never know what became of him...or Wes

@Bennyboy1985

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah me too. It felt like he just got brushed off when it was convenient for either main of the main characters because he was 'nerdy'.

@crystalDM96

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bennyboy1985 It wasn't because he was nerdy, it was because Yorkie wasn't into guys i think

@CW-xn1ot

2 жыл бұрын

He was treated nicely once, when he played DDR with Kelly in 2002

@spacejelly3562

6 күн бұрын

I felt like we were going to see him end up at the quagmire or something

@4:24 obviously unaware that she is dressed in exactly the same outfit as the dancers in the video of Addicted to Love, as anyone around in the 80's would know

@NewtonDKC

3 жыл бұрын

LOL, I was going to post this and a couple other similar tidbits (ie INXS is pronounced “In Excess” which shocked me that someone wouldnt know this - that’s when I realized the painfully obvious “crap, its because I’m (getting to be?) an old geezer that I recognized these and the narrator didnt.” Glad you posted! I found this episode profoundly moving to the extent that I hope there’s a San Junipero equivalent or better (actual biological rejuvenation coupled with Simulations would be the way to go IMO - young and healthy again for the real world but plenty of sims that will it will be like deciding which web site or Netflix/Disney +/Hulu/Prime/etc show I watch next) before its gets close to…”my time”. I watch San Junipero every now and then as I graduated High School in 87 and related to more than just the songs which are fantastic. It’s nice and uplifting and could so easily have gone dark - which I fully expect Black Mirror to do in a sequel if not necessarily a direct San Junipero sequel, dealing with the concept of a soul and if that’s actually us in the SIM, could a glitch cause someone to get stuck in the sim and wake up in the real world…what happens when they go back in?Doppleganger? Twin? Does someone get wiped? End of the world power failure? Upgraded system where in the even further future sim people can download into sim Bodies with direct feeds from the real world for all the senses just like life…do they make you work in the SIM (no reason real world stuff cant be worked on…Can you communicate with the outside world? So many questions…could be a whole series of multiple seasons on this topic alone!

@deliquescencemusic

3 жыл бұрын

Including the Breakfast Club reference.....

I'm the biggest, most bad ass dude in my town and San Junipero had me crying like a 6 year-old girl....

@Dan1elAndrade

6 жыл бұрын

Muyanzi Reid lol

@thegossipswan009

6 жыл бұрын

Muyanzi Reid you're more of a bad ass admitting this (:

@gayaf6910

6 жыл бұрын

well crying?? being vulnerable and open about your emotions?? that not only is okay and necessary but badass af so nothing`s changed for ya :)

@homp8695

6 жыл бұрын

Muyanzi Reid woah watch out guys we got a cool guy

@jeffrey2870

6 жыл бұрын

anyone who claims they are the most bad ass dude in town is not the most bad ass dude in town.

This episode was adorable. Yorkie and Kelly are goals. I cried at the end of the episode.

It's optional immortality as it was said in the episode that they can "pull the plug" whenever they want to, even after they have died.

If I am close to death I would soo want to live in this heaven on earth but I am also terrified at the idea of the computer lab being bombed by religious extremist who might view it was an insult, or world ar 3/4 breaking out with nuclear bombs, the system would be wiped out and delete everyone or what is some psychopaths put a virus into the simulation or upload nightmares into San Junipero?

@cashoo7030

6 жыл бұрын

Shit good point

@rangercarnage

6 жыл бұрын

Scary how humanity would destroy something so beautiful...

@jareda3957

6 жыл бұрын

It will be "destroyed" by nature. It is just a matter of time. but, I do think the virus idea would be a interesting follow-up episode

@exchangediary968

6 жыл бұрын

look what were doing to our own earth ; )

@randomdude2086

6 жыл бұрын

+James R Yes, because it is an actual cloud floating around in the sky

This has helped because I really didn’t understand this episode.

Love love love this episode! Great analysis. I didn't even connect how all the other songs fit in! I always felt the line "Baby I was afraid before, but I'm not afraid anymore..." fit so perfectly with Yorkie's situation in being afraid to accept Kelly's advances in the beginning to the end where she is free to love her without judgement or fear.

Really love the 80s theme. Reminded me of high school. That will be me as an older person, still listening to the same music and everything from the 80s.

A chip simulation will always be a simulation of code. When she actually died her actual soul was transported to either hell or heaven. Being disconnected from tech and soul, the real her will never know what’s going on in San Junipero, while the coded simulation version of her will never know she isn’t who she is.

@silentfool1002

3 жыл бұрын

That's rather comforting to hear.

when they stay in san junipero after death, i think it's just their cookie's living on in it, not actually them.

i cry every single time i watch san junipero

It was an incredible story. It affected me on such a level that I've not plucked up the courage to watch it a second time. I found it interesting that my husband and I were discussing if such an artificial afterlife existed - would we sign up? Short answer - he said yes, I said no. Even as someone who would have gladly not lived through the first 16 years of my life.

This was by far my favorite episode and before the credits I was pretty sad but when Kelly was talking to her assistant I was confused but when the credits came and I saw Yorkie honk in front of Kelly’s house and saw her come out my entire body felt tingles i’ve never felt that before I was really happy.

She was dressed as one of the girls in the music video addicted to love, I'm sure that was just a pop reference

@buzzardbeatniks

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah and during Don't you Forget About Me she was dressed as post-makeover Allison in The Breakfast Club.

I loved this episode so much. One of the best things I've ever seen. The story first and foremost is brilliant. Secondly I've always been fascinated by future nostalgia. To think someday the late 20th/early 21st centuries will be 60, 70, 100+ years ago is trippy and saddening and thirdly, the idea of simulations someday becoming a reality is fascinating and I always like to see it explored.

Great analysis as always! Loved that you decided to analyze the episode in its relation to the music. Keep up the great work!

Wow Harry! Great moves! Keep it up. Proud of you!

@brizanna33

6 жыл бұрын

Sander Sint Nicolaas 😂😂 I wonder if he's a thicc bih too.

@user-sb5vx8dc6p

6 жыл бұрын

Papa bless

@Hey_Jamie

6 жыл бұрын

#VapeNashe

@masonmulder687

6 жыл бұрын

Thicc boii

@BlvkColossus

6 жыл бұрын

ITS ETHAN!

Watched this episode 5 years after it was made. We're getting so much closer to the VR life it's scary!!

@fabianmahorn7545

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I just finished it today and to mw it's almost like picking one of your favorite games, making it hyper realistic and living there "forever". It's almost like if you lived in GTAV without the violence, food taste like nothing and you always respawn. It's intriguing and terrifying at the same time. You know eventually, you'll get tired of it and can "unplug" whenever you want but that's all there is. I wonder if they upgrade it and if they test it extensively to make sure there aren't any bugs and or glithes which can be fun to find sometimes but in this case, you can't restart the thing or that may be it forever.

I feel it would be interesting to have a bit of a look to what that place would be like in 100, 500 or even 1000 years time. People can barely hold relationships together for 50 years and in a relatively confined place that they would be spending an indefinite amount of years in I can't help but think that it would become unbearable. If they mentioned in the episode that they plan on expanding this afterlife it would be a more comfortable thought, but without jobs, goals, worries, or something to look forward to, life tends to send you a bit crazy.

@josawesome1

6 жыл бұрын

Balls The Dog They can leave the simulation any time they want

@BallsTheDog

6 жыл бұрын

But would you?

@NinaR478

6 жыл бұрын

Balls The Dog ya

@justmart4455

4 жыл бұрын

@@josawesome1 that's :(. I can't describe it

@dariusanderton3760

2 жыл бұрын

it sounds like there are lots of other simulations available, and if you were allowed to travel from one to another you could keep yourself busy for centuries. Medieval Europe, the Roman Empire, the 1920s, the list could go on and on.

GOD this made me cry. I was reminded of how beautiful San Junipero is. It's just... so beautiful. I can't explain it, but you, Harry's Moving Castle, have done so wonderfully here. Thank you!

This was my first episode and I did believe it was the 80s UNTIL she started skipping time zones like entering different servers or rooms.

I was both mindfucked and emotionally traumatized by this episode. 10/10 from me.

There are parts of this ep towards the end that almost make me tear up but the actual ending gives me more of a creepy ominous vibe. Sure, they’re happy, forever young and beautiful BUT their essence is now the property of TCKR.. it’s all happening in a huge non descript building and who knows how many others are there! I love that they ended it this way because it calls into question whether this is a happy ending or not. Should heaven really be a “place on earth”?

I haven't commented yet but I've been listening to these as I watch the show and I have to say you do amazing work at putting these together. It makes me appreciate the episodes even more. I'm still new to Black Mirror but I'm in love with it and watching these videos is like the cherry on top, all the details i missed for me to notice on the second watch. Thank you for your hard work you've gained yet another subscriber!

San Junipero hit me hard. I'd recently been diagnosed with kidney failure with dialysis in my future, and I was born in '70, teenager in the 80's. It didn't matter at all that the characters were in a lesbian relationship. That last scene where you see the "servers," with Heaven is a Place on Earth playing broke me. I wish it could be real.

You sound so crisp, new mic?

@HarrysMovingMedia

6 жыл бұрын

Nupe, just in a desk chair that can move up and down so I can align my mouth with the mic better. If anything really, I've just moved closer to my mic hahaha

@ArcadianWizard

6 жыл бұрын

Harry's Moving Castle c r i s p

@nonpiangetepermesonogiamor7411

6 жыл бұрын

your voice is so beautiful sir! you could be a voice actor!

Did anyone else feel empty that Kelly forsook her husband and child? I honestly was hoping that kelly would have spent one more day with Yorkie so they could end on the right foot and then Kelly goes on to be in the same whatever afterlife (or lack thereof) with her family of 40+ years while also giviing yorkie enough closure to find a meaningful afterlife in San jupinero. I couldn't help but feel like Kelly betrayed her husband and child in the end for a woman she had only spent a few days with.

@xxsidmontana5534

4 жыл бұрын

I feel the exact same way

I love these videos you really bring a new understanding of an already brilliant show. Cant wait for the next one.

I kind of wanted to hear more about the quagmire because I heard Kelley say that everyone there tries anything just to feel something. Maybe Kelley’s ex boyfriend was there because he was lost and sick of his immortality

Such a beautifiul episode, loved every second of it

Yes great discussion. This episode will stick with me forever. As a gay female, I greatly identified with Yorkie's character. I found myself openly bawling at various points throughout the story, it is hard to explain. I'm thrilled to see this struggle put out there yet saddened it exists.

Its a nice idea, I dont know if i would want it though, I often find myself depressed when I achieve my goals, its kind of weird i know but, to me everytime I succeed on a goal for example getting enough money to buy a videogame, and then playing it it just feels kind of empty afterwards. its just, I am the knod of person that will never be content with anything I achieve or own, there must be always something more to look for after, otherwise I would probably preferr to kill myself.

@blonderedhead4440

6 жыл бұрын

Rafael Rubio I am like that too.

@rafaelrubio4443

6 жыл бұрын

Blonde RedHead well I'm glad it's not only me ...

@etaperily4947

6 жыл бұрын

Rafael Rubio I'm exactly like that

@nadiacampagnaro8383

6 жыл бұрын

Maybe set better goals than saving up for a video game 😂

@etaperily4947

6 жыл бұрын

F33bs yeah, but for me, whenever I share a meaningful moment with people, I think of the future or something sad. I don't know how to explain this.

brilliant, as always harry!!!!!

Your, Black Mirror analysts are always phenomenal! Keep up the good work.❤️

You may not know it, whippersnapper, but she was dressed as the women from the video, "Addicted to Love". She didn't change out of her outfit because that song came on and it made her feel self conscious, the song itself is what inspired the look. Great analysis, by the way...glad to have watched it after watching the episode, a lot of this stuff wouldn't have otherwise occurred to me. Thanks for this!

Bro...your analytic, detail oriented review on this is amazing, wow. The way you point out so many aspects and tie them to the story line is impressive. It's the best black mirror episode in my opinion, and your review helps me make sense of it...thanks!

i seriously love this episode so much. i’ve watched it five times already and plan on watching it again.

Have you really not heard of INXS????

I love your analysis but it's pronounced "In excess" I can tell you were not an 80s kid XD

@reggiebell7291

6 жыл бұрын

dena81 it's called American, in which he probably wasn't.

@bananaOyster

6 жыл бұрын

I was born in 1991 in Russia and even I know how it's pronounced

@dena81

6 жыл бұрын

INXS was a world-renowned band made of Australians so.....they're not only known by Americans...

@AbstractSilver

6 жыл бұрын

Pandolar Bear Mikollopria they're an Australian band...

@jennajen6414

6 жыл бұрын

How’s it pronounced? 2000 kid here

this episode really warms my heart, i was extremely surpised when i first watched it and then immediately rewatched it

Just want to say a massive thanks harry. Getting to watch your expert analysis of this show makes the experience even better. The first thing I want to do after watching one is find out what you said about it. Can't wait for the next one.

How was the ending of San Junipero happy?? Those people are really dead, it's their cookies that are living happily ever after

@miaofearth

6 жыл бұрын

cookies split, these devices were direct

@caad5258

6 жыл бұрын

Its a real rabbit hole... "What even is consciousness? Is it something computers can simulate? Can it be copied? If so, is the copy sentient?"

@l.tc.5032

6 жыл бұрын

Humans have always thought physical death wasn't the end. Sure not everyone, myself included but who's tho say it isn't? And if it isn't why can't people be happy in what ever comes next whether it be natural or man made.

@caad5258

6 жыл бұрын

+L.T C. We know that our brain is the host to our mind. We know that if we physically interfere with the brain, we can induce emotions, destroy memories and change a persons personalty permanently. So one would conclude that the physical world is all there is. And so physical death is the end. There isn't anything after death, for humans or any other species on earth, be they trees, ants or orangutans.

@PeterEhik

6 жыл бұрын

What I'm saying is when they were both alive and in the sim, their brains were connected to the machine somehow so they felt the stimulation, it was real to them, now that they're dead, there's no one left to stimulate. There's no one gaining any pleasure from being connected to the simulation, it's just a copy of them left in San Junipero to help round out the universe. Dead people don't feel anything, so I can't really see it as a happy ending. I can only see this benefiting a person as long as their brain is alive, after that's there's no point.

Probably the best hour of TV in history. Iconic episode.

FINALLY! I've been waiting for this review for so long!

this episode made me so sad it was so relatable to me especially the part where they could go to different times like i want to go to the 80s or 90s or 2000s

I definitely believe the geeky dude who hits on Yorkie at the Arcade is AI and was never human. How else does he show up playing the arcade Dance Dance Revolution with Kelly in the 2000's? He is there as a form of tech support. He was also the first person to try and make Yorkie comfortable. The odds of him being in "multiple times" are extremely improbable.

Such a beauty filled episode, and so well acted too.

Thanks for another great analysis, I've been looking forward to this one!

Great Job! I thoroughly enjoyed your thoughtful analysis of one of my all-time favorite hours of television :-)

The face value ending is happy but the implication is sad and the resolve disturbing. I think it works on many levels but the one part that struck me the most was how a huge effort to experience a short moment of intimacy (Kelly driving to meet and touch Yorkie in her coma) was so much more intense than an eternity of ecstacy(dancing/sex/beaches etc.) I don't know if they were trying to express this profound sentiment but that's what I took.

I know they can leave whenever they want but the idea of being trapped in here forever after death is terrifying

Absolutely amazing and stunning content. Grade A Analysis and much more refreshing than other channels that just regurgitate the episode synopsis as if the viewer hadn't already seen it in the first place. Keep up the good work.

Man! You made these analysis in a way that made me feel they should be like add-ons to the main series episodes, because not everyone can unveil the hidden meanings almost integrated to every scene, every song, and every saying. Totally appreciate your effort Harry!

Whats this? A love story that's actually well written?? This was a really great episode.

i really liked this episode once i figured out what was going on. i just wish it was revealed much sooner because i spent most of the episode trying to piece together what was happening

Thank you for doing these videos man!

Well done man. I had no questions about the episode before but your video made me realize that I didn’t know any of the questions I had and yet you answered them all 😁👍🏻

I watch this episode and I'm 13yo again at summer camp falling in love for the first time at the summer dance. That's my San Junipero. This episode hit hard. Damn.

Love this episode! I really relate to Yorkie.

@quasar4601

5 жыл бұрын

So can I except for the gayness thing

@Boidan69

5 жыл бұрын

Goodlies no you don’t dumbass

Brilliant video! This is by far one of my favorite episodes of Black Mirror.

Excellent analysis! Just watched this and it's my favourite episode so far :)

5:19 made me laugh way more than it should have

It is kinda scary knowing they uploaded their consciousness to the “cloud” and have to live like that forever...: I wouldn’t want to live forever that sounds stupid when I die I want to be just that... dead.. not in a computer simulation. Even if I was at my absolute prime for eternity I would be bored after a while.. so it’s kinda bittersweet for me tbh. 🤷‍♀️The Ashley O episode ending is the least depressing because she got to be free from her evil aunt and be herself and express her true feelings thru her music.. plus I love the Mickey Mouse references with the mouse killers

@themask3174

3 жыл бұрын

Putting consciousness in computers is the dream of transhumanists but a nightmare for us souls. Trapped. This is a f*cking jail.

@annablabka8653

2 жыл бұрын

Who said that you can't delete yourself from the simulation? You try it out for a while and you could disappear when you want to.

Awesome analysis! Bravo!

You did wonderfully. Love your voice! San Junipero is my favorite episode ever!!!

I don't know if such a system would truly work We know the true value of happiness because we've seen sadness as a part of everyday life, we know what it is to relax because we've been stressed. But- being in San Junipero is like being a constant state of joy till the point that the feeling won't't have any real value to the individual- almost like being on a holiday forever.

at first i was super confused as to why this episode was a part of black mirror bc it takes place in the past and the episode description says "seems to defy the laws of space and time" and i read that and thought this was going to be dealing with the supernatural (and as the little mentions of death kept popping up before the flashback to reality, i was very confused as to why Netflix didn't release this apart from the black mirror world and just as its own little "mini-movie" (i guess) but after the big reveal, everything started to make sense)

That went beyond mere analysis and into the realm of the poetic. Beautifully executed and conceived breakdown. Thank you.

This episode was awesome. I was cheering for them. I hope I get to experience a place like San Junipero.