Bill and House talking bad contracts and team f-ups never gets old😂

@prod.snqwfall1347

Жыл бұрын

Especially Wizards/Celtics stuff, you can hear the pain lmao

@forestforest1859

Жыл бұрын

​@prod.snQwfall "house, this is like a wizards type move"😂

@michaelahurt

Жыл бұрын

Which one of these guys is gonna get Pascal Siakim "Ooops our bad" Award in 10 months? Smart to do it in March though. Lol

@1thoughtfantasy59

Жыл бұрын

hilarious

@sergeynazaro1768

Жыл бұрын

I just wish we didn’t have WOZ on this. House and bill are pure bliss

Bill really predicted Miami beating the Celtics 😂😂😂

@jeffmarchand9254

9 ай бұрын

The master

@mathboy8188

5 ай бұрын

Nostradamus even called it for the conference finals "In the 2-7". Crazy.

@michaelturley3457

4 ай бұрын

Celtics choking should never not be predicted lol

Wos waxing poetic about Ben Simmons’ atrocity of a contract is the stuff basketball journalism is made of

@beerrrr6869

Жыл бұрын

What about the contract brooklyn gave joe harris funny how that never discussed.

@David-iv6je

Жыл бұрын

@@beerrrr6869 Sure. But Wos has it right. Every one of the other guys on this list can actually play NBA basketball, even if the "market" over-valued them. Simmons at this point cannot.

@stephenjackson9948

Жыл бұрын

At least Joe Harris shoots the basketball

@Nalololol

Жыл бұрын

@@beerrrr6869 cause it's not a bad contract

@davincerica7232

Жыл бұрын

​@lol it's a bad contract thought

this trio + russillo is gold standard for me. glad the full pod is posted here.

@ma1ist

Жыл бұрын

swap zach lowe for wos i like wos a lot tho

@BabylonGateLA

Жыл бұрын

@@ma1ist Ryen is much funnier tho

@tayshaughn

Жыл бұрын

Zach Lowe is annoying

@NashDwayne

Жыл бұрын

Fax

@paulwilliams5500

Жыл бұрын

I love this trio, and I love Rusillo and Simmons together for different reasons. This was gold.

This might be my favourite 'draft' pod that Simmons does

The Johnny Davis one got me 🤣 came FULL CIRCLE

@thedoranwilliamsshow6863

Жыл бұрын

For real doe

The video quality finally improved!!

@Chillaaaaxxx

Жыл бұрын

Thought the same thing. Love it.

Such a good point by Bill about lebron vs zion. Hes working hard to stay healthy in year 20 while Zion can't stay healthy as a 21 year old

“He belongs in china” 😂😂😂

Just looking at their first 5 pics, here is each guy's starting 5: Wos starting 5: Ben Simmons - 3 yrs/$113 mil - Nets PG $38 mil/yr KAT 5/260 - Wolves - C 52 John Collins 3/79 - Hawks PF 26 DeAndre Hunter 4/90 - Hawks SF 23 Michael Porter Jr - 3/105 - Denver SG 35 Total annual salary: $174 million House Starting 5: Bradley Beal 5/251 - Wizards SF 50 Rudy Gobert 4/170 - Wolves C 43 Trae Young 5/215 - Hawks PG 43 Tobias Harris 2/77 - 76ers PF 39 Kyle Lowry - 2/58 - Heat SG 29 Total annual salary: $204 million Simmons starting 5 Duncan Robinson 4/74 - Heat SF 19 Davis Bertans 3/49 - Mavs PF 16 Jordan Poole 5/132 - Warriors PG 26 Evan Fournier 2/37 - Knicks SG 19 Richaun Holmes - 3/36 - Kings C 12 Total annual salary: $92 million House's five have the highest salary, but at least he got 5 startable players. Wos got the highest SPD (suck per dollar), so I think he won. Simmons failed the assignment--he's not even over the salary cap.

@marotzj

Жыл бұрын

Where are you getting these positions? Kyle Lowry has been a PG his entire career, Michael Porter Jr is definitely a forward (he's 6'10"), Bradley Beal and Jordan Poole are 2 guards.

@3Loog3

Жыл бұрын

@@marotzj Right, but I was going with the first five they drafted, so among Lowry and Young, somebody has to be two guard. Trae likes the ball.... a lot.... so I figure he's end up point. Same with the other positions. I was working with the five they each drafted first.

@jocofnazareth

Жыл бұрын

Kyle Lowry is so trash , how did he bamboozle the heat

@brettlord6379

Жыл бұрын

Simmons took Zion and his 200 mill. Swap him for Holmes in your starting 5

@andrewshandle

Жыл бұрын

Simmons may not have hit the cap, but his team would win like 12 games. Wos' and House's teams would at least win 30.

House saying Lowry is out of shape & Zion got in great shape is hilarious 😂😂😂

Jordan Poole is like paying Jamal Crawford 30 million a year

@xblfanatic360

Жыл бұрын

Crawford was a better player and actually tried on defense at one point in his career.

@joeshmoe8134

Жыл бұрын

Poole would have been my 3rd round pick easy. Think about this….after drafting Klay and trading for KD, the Warriors have missed on EVERY SINGLE DECISION.

@xblfanatic360

Жыл бұрын

@@joeshmoe8134 I wouldn’t go that far. Poole showed up when it mattered most in the finals. And Wiggins was a great pickup

@BostonsF1nest

Жыл бұрын

@@xblfanatic360 that’s the problem tho- guys get paid for what they did over a 7 game series rather than the previous 95 games

@jacobwilkins8761

Жыл бұрын

@@joeshmoe8134 It was the 28th pick. Who should they have taken instead? I guess you can argue for Claxton and Keldon Johnson, but I strongly doubt they win last year with either of those guys.

Keep the drafts coming! I'll never get tired of 'em!

@Okamotolbj

Жыл бұрын

I would love an end recap with a winner 🥇

I love these. That Ben Simmons contract will rule this segment until he's bought out.

We need to get House a mic stand

@vikramvedha7586

Жыл бұрын

You got it bro I don't think I will be contributing.😅

@David-iv6je

Жыл бұрын

Why would you ruin this? 🤣

@thedoranwilliamsshow6863

Жыл бұрын

@@HawgJawn His BRAND!! Of course. What was I thinking 🙃

This is the best of what you guys do. More personality, more laughs, and consistent familiar faces would cure this pod

The House Simmons reaction on Deandre Hunter is meme worthy

Such a good segment. Last year's was great and I look forward to this being a yearly thing

Looking back at this video from where we are in the finals it's so funny that they were right about everything except Duncan

I remember a lot of people was mad about Ben Simmons being on the list. Guess Wos was right 😂😂

52:21 someone brought this sound bite up on Reddit and it’s way funnier visually now 💀

Yes!!!!!!! I’m so happy. I like the addition of Wos the last two years

@e2zbasketball288

Жыл бұрын

Hes a stupid ******er

Fascinating being here after Beal and Poole just got trader. Duncan Robinson playing again and I’m only 19 minutes in. Ben Simmons situation hasn’t changed tho haha

Hopefully, Wos addresses Sabonis and is forced to acknowledge that he just never watched a single Pacers game in either of the two years that Domas made the all-star game. It's almost like these guys have no idea what they're talking about!

@danieltougher1557

Жыл бұрын

💯

they should take this 1 step further....instead of just talking about the players & contracts, they should also discuss the General Manager that gave 'said contract'. ...and we can see if any GM appears multiple times.

Who’s here after the finals 😅? Duncan robinson contract doesn’t look so bad now considering how important he was to that run

I think Simmons will suddenly give a crap in the last year of his deal, which will put the intelligence of a number of GMs to the test.

Few podcasts come out that are over an hour long where I know I’m gonna listen to every word and be entertained

This is better than the NBA/NFL draft. I still have a headache over the Beal contract. A no trade clause for a player that’s never really led your team to the playoffs.

@liferealgood

Жыл бұрын

And I’m not calling him a bad player but he’s just overpaid.

@CosmicRx7

Жыл бұрын

He's pretty much a vreat role player at this point

We NEED more WOSNY content!

I can listen to House talk about the Washington basketball team and bad contracts with the pain and disdain in his voice all day 😂

MPJ doesn't deserve to be on this list any longer. Dude is ballin.

Cant believe Porter made the list. 17.4 PPG shooting 41% at 7 attempts is elite. still very young.

@daveclark8337

Жыл бұрын

17 pts / 5 rebounds isn't worthy of $36 million per year.

This was my first Simmons podcast episode that I listened to and this was a great discussion. Some solid choices for a packed field of bad contracts.

Man so glad this got clipped for a video. Was listening to it and was so good.

YEEEESSS!!! The Worst Contract Draft 2.0!!! I’ve been waiting years for this!!

funny to see how Duncan Robinsons value is now compared to a month ago before playoffs… dude is a pivotal piece on a finals team

My 7 year old the first time she saw Kyle Lowry playing: "I'm surprised there's an NBA player who's kind of bigger like that" 🤣

Epic pod again! I could listen to those 3 all week long. To House and Bill alone every day, all year, lmao. Greets from Munich;-)

Best gimmick by far

@cottonmouth6369

Жыл бұрын

Love this gimmick

enjoyed this feature so much last year with Wos, this is the perfect trio to do it with

2:00 - Ben Simmons 10:35 - Bradley Beal 15:45 - Duncan Robinson 20:45 - Davis Bertans 23:55 - Rudy Gobert 28:20 - Karl Anthony Towns 33:50 - John Collins 36:50 - Trae Young 39:40 - Lonzo Ball 41:20 - Jordan Poole 46:10 - Evan Fournier 48:55 - Tobias Harris 51:30 - DeAndre Hunter 53:55 - Michael Porter Jr 57:00 - Kyle Lowry 58:30 - Richaun Holmes 1:00:00 - Zion Williamson 1:04:00 - Damian Lillard 1:08:00 - Zach LaVine 1:10:45 - Jonathan Isaac 1:12:00 - Marcus Smart 1:16:20 - Jusuf Nurkic

@IamnotfromUSA

10 ай бұрын

Bertans contract right now does not look that bad IMO if he plays like he is playing with hes country

I like this trio!! Give us more to listen to

Bill's side piece channel drops more content than the actual Ringer account good grief

So glad you did this again this year!

It's funny because Bill simmons always slammed the rockets for not getting ben simmons in the original harden deal

@adamhammond9985

Жыл бұрын

If they had, his career might not have ended. Embiid and Doc cooked his soft mind.

Btw, this draft is fire every year. Absolutely love it!

I enjoyed this far more than I had any right to. This was great stuff.

We need more of these and what ifs

Bill hates Kyrie so much he thinks the Wizards won the Mavs trade 😭

Lonzo is a very sad contract, you nailed it

Duncan was crushing 3s in the comfy/cozy confines of Disney...All-Time Bubble hero

@gators9570

Жыл бұрын

Following season he still hit over 40% on high volume. The contract got in his head. Performance anxiety probably

Ben Simmons laughing to the bank😅😅😅😅

Watching in anticipation of a new draft coming up

What's wild about Duncan's contract is that it was a discount for what he was projected to get. Cats were saying he could get $95 million elsewhere. Bertans set Dunc's contract when he got $85 million on a team going nowhere.

First time seeing Wos on here, really liked him on the pod! Likeable, and definitely knows basketball.

@shorewall

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, every time he's on, he stands out to me with good takes. The opposite of KOC, who always stands out to me with bad takes. :D

Yes Ooooooooooh my goodddd, I waited so long for part 2

this was FANtastic!!..a fun listen.

15:03 It's funny Beal and Poole were mentioned in this podcast 3 months before they were basically traded for each other. Those GMs must have been tuning in 😂

Davis Bertans is a classic example of the Spurs making a player a lot of money. Him and Johnathan Simmons.

Even when talking about other teams they somehow bring up the Wizards LOL They be catching strays left, right and centre

Beal no trade clause is CRAZY

Fun podcast. Wos is great addition: knowledgeable and always laughing

I love these. Bill Simmons is the best

Such a great segment

Isaacs contract is only partially guaranteed 7.5 million next year and non guaranteed the next bult in injury stipulations all throughout the contract. Dude on the right doesn't know what he's talking about even when he had a chance to correct himself.

@adamhammond9985

Жыл бұрын

Wos is an excellent communicator. He's definitely not top notch in basketball knowledge

Such a hilarious listen 😂

This was a good pod. Also, Bill appeared to become despondent and emotional when talking about the Celtics. Looked on the verge of tears when discussing the rapid decline of Marcus Smart.

@roboninja3194

Жыл бұрын

Kind of interesting considering Smart got traded.

loved every minute of this

Bill picking Duncan Robinson. May be right but DR getting his say after game 3 of the semis. 23 points in 22 minutes

Trae gets compared to Steph Curry all the time when the ACTUAL Steph he should be compared to is Marbury

Ben Simmons’ contract is fucking insane

No JIs contract is not guaranteed

Towns and Trae could still get you value back in a trade though. Huge, risky contracts but not in same universe of badness as Gobert, Bertans, Simmons deals

@SomeChink

Жыл бұрын

can they really? who’s out there trying to trade for KAT and the privilege of paying him $50+ mil per year?

@andrewshandle

Жыл бұрын

The issue with KAT is he has a 10% trade kicker, meaning he'll be getting just shy of 70M in the last year of his deal if traded.

@roboninja3194

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewshandle Jesus. That's insane. He's so overrated. He'll never ever be the #1 option on a championship winning team and he's getting 50-60 million a season.

I love these kinds of NBA discussions. Fournier, to me, is by far the worst of all of the contracts mentioned

@htown11465

Жыл бұрын

You think fournier is worse than Ben Simmons contract????

@dynctive

Жыл бұрын

@@htown11465 When Fournier's was signed it looked back to me, with Ben, I honestly think there is still something special deep down inside there that could make the deal worth it

@aron.gortman

Жыл бұрын

Nah he's just on a team that is not utilising his talents.

These 250 million dollar contacts are absolutely mind boggling.

Until further notice, Ben Simmons is the worst contract in all of major sports! Maybe Russell Wilson in another year! 😂 😂

KAT barks up the wrong defensive tree🌲 🙀 Merry Christmas Minnesota!🎅🏽

@kyliedadify

6 ай бұрын

Feeling good this Christmas, thank you. Try back next year.

Super fun. I really liked

KAT had a stage 3 calf strain with 95% of his calf torn. Soooo yeah that’s the injury he’s dealing with.

@ 30:20 House with the Popeye's chicken analogy. 😂😂💀💀

Idk how long it will take, but eventually these teams will finally realize that it’s a million times better to “lose a player for nothing”, than it is to give them a ridiculous contract and be stuck with them and their team killing contract.

I think Kat was a little tough on.. once he is healthy i think he will be ok... id like to see him one more year in Minnesota

They bring up one of my biggest issues with the NBA today- players act like spoiled children… and always end up getting what they want

@ObiAmajoyiSrMD

Жыл бұрын

Stupid comment. They are a walking, talking business

@baxter1896

6 ай бұрын

Lmao shits been going on for decades - are you new to this??

I have written on other posts addessing the Warriors lack of success this season that one of the biggest reasons for the decline ( as much as injuries) was the punch because the failurre of the Organization to severely penalize Green or trade him effectively put a player over the culture that the younger players had been told they should buy into so they checked out. Unlike many I do not believe that Green was indespensible to running it back as he could have been traded for others who would have compensated in other ways ( example- Myles Turner). It also likely contributed to them overpaying for Jordan Poole.

I always found it ridiculous that when the Nets acquired Kyrie and Harden that people were predicting them winning an NBA championship. No way does any team with those 2 knuckleheads ever won a title.

76ers pulled off one of the greatest trades in nba history

An idea for a series: top 5 worst/best moves/trades/signings for every NBA team.

@amc1140

Жыл бұрын

Lakers top 5 worst moves are all the last few years lol

@stefanpetrusca5990

Жыл бұрын

@@amc1140 Westbrook, Howard and Nash are up there, so yea.

@amc1140

Жыл бұрын

@@stefanpetrusca5990 I was thinking Westbrook, Zubac, Caruso as the top 3 just because of how dumb it was at the time. Deng and Mozgov were bad too. At least Nash and Howard made us championship favorites at the time when Kobe was still amazing

@stefanpetrusca5990

Жыл бұрын

@@amc1140 Championship contenders? They barely made the playoffs in ‘13. I don’t mind giving up all those young guys because they got a championship from that. Also, most of those guys are role players, only Ingram and Randle made a couple of all star teams.

@amc1140

Жыл бұрын

@@stefanpetrusca5990 the Lakers and Heat were the favorites after the Howard trade, so I think it made sense at the time. I get the AD trade, but the Zubac and Caruso moves were just shooting ourselves in the foot for no reason.

This is always fun

Y'all finally got an HD camera?!? Hooray!

@pleaserewind295

Жыл бұрын

They finally read the comments. lol

Wos was great on this pod

@adamhammond9985

Жыл бұрын

Except for that part where Bill tried to help him out with Jonathan Isaacs and he stood by his wrong take.

in '22 Bradley Beal shot 30threes% AND had 8 less ppg from the previous season; THEN got his 5 year contract... fax!!!

S/O to House for drafting Spicy P last year - then sticks it to him by having B2B all-nba calibre seasons 😂

@ckq

Жыл бұрын

He fell off this season after a hot start, back to being top 40ish now

@Islington_Express_Bus

Жыл бұрын

@@ckq Yeah he probably won't be all-nba but he definitely doesn't belong on a worst contracts list and never did.

@RVK11-lr2no

Жыл бұрын

@@ckq true but like Bus said, I didn't agree with him being on the list to begin with. I'm a pistons fan but love his story and watching him play

@johndebono1870

Жыл бұрын

@@Islington_Express_Bus He probably doesn't this year, but I think that has more to do with the Raptors' record vs anything Siakim is doing. He definitely is good enough to be in the all-NBA debate.

@SomeChink

Жыл бұрын

@@ckq I don’t think there’s 40 players I’d rather have instead of Siakam, he’s definitely spicy enough to be a top 30 player in the league right now

Fournier is a mathematical genius. I learned about the Fortnier Transform in differential equations.

@myhumps2730

Жыл бұрын

Tobias Harris should get an award for being the sixth best player on the Sixers.

We need visual of every pod

Best day on the NBA calendar … Bad Contract Draft

Brad Beal is the Michael Jordan of “good stats bad team guy”

@BostonsF1nest

Жыл бұрын

Dame Lillard?? Dame and Beal both gotta gtfo of their teams

@jacobwilkins8761

Жыл бұрын

​@@BostonsF1nest I think Beal embraces it a bit more. Lillard seems to genuinely want to win but IMO is held back much more by location. Let's say we swap the two and Dame gets drafted by Washington and Beal by Portland. I imagine Beal's Blazers would be as bad as his Wizards, but I think the Lillard Wizards would have much more success than the Lillard Blazers have. He'd be able to get significant free agent signings because guys would want to play with him provided that it isn't Oregon.

@liamdell4202

Жыл бұрын

​@@jacobwilkins8761 feels like you're over estimating Washington as a free agent destination and they don't have the greatest front office either. Who was the last person the Wizards SIGNED that stayed and actually contributed? Look at how much they gave Bertans lol

@rapstallion6615

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobwilkins8761 I think a better argument to make for why Lillard's Wizards would have more success than Beal's Blazers would simply be because Dame would be in the East, which traditionally has always been the weaker conference, at least since Dame and Beal have been in the league. That, coupled with the "genuinely want to win" factor that Dame has over Beal, which I agree with you about, would make a convincing argument to me. And if Dame's whole career had been in the East rather than the West, the perception might be more of "The Steph Curry of the East," rather than "The not as good version of Steph Curry" that plays in the same conference, like it is.

@grapeape1965

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobwilkins8761 Lmao what?!? No one chooses the wizards in free agency that matters, it is not a free agency destination nor a city that anyone gives af about playing in

That was so fun...

I feel like I’m being gaslit by the Blazer fans base about Nurkic. He hasn’t been a winning player since before the bubble. He’s constantly injured and out of shape, he whines constantly and lets his emotions take him out of the game, and at the best of times he’s a liability in offense but the soccer moms and transplants are constantly screaming about “Nurk Fever” dispute him basically rage quitting in the playoffs 2 seasons ago. I’m sick of his shenanigans and I’d personally drive him to the airport if I had the chance.

Honorable Mention: Herro, Barrett, Dort, McCollum, J Murray, Simons, Rozier, Capela, Sexton

@tj-23

Жыл бұрын

Hey none of those guys have bad deals. Makes no sense actually

@Pacoag

Жыл бұрын

Herro? Lol

@tj-23

Жыл бұрын

@@Pacoag he just hates Herro probably lmao