Bike life to me, is anything on 2 wheels. Always loved bmx for it's style, so when i decided to get back into cycling (i'm in my 40's now), my 1st choice was a bmx!

@MikeKollin

9 ай бұрын

I bought a GT Gutterball about 10 years ago. I raced BMX for 2+ decades... I Bought the GT Gutterball because it's basically just a big BMX Bike. Technically it's a Fixie bike. It came with a rear wheel you can flip to the freewheel side. It's fun, easy to work on etc...

There’s no such thing as a “Bike Life Bike”. “Bike Life” was a hashtag that went viral when a KZreadr named “Oneway Corey” went viral in Philadelphia for riding wheelies for very long distances through his city with a ton of kids taking up multiple car lanes in the streets. It was during the times when SE released the BIG RIPPER. Since the BIG RIPPER was Corey’s bike of choice for doing wheelies, that particular model gained extreme popularity along with the hashtag #BikeLife. I believe this led directly to the immediate growth of the SE Big BMX sales to the point where SE quickly started to release more models of big BMX bikes. It quickly became a movement that caught on like wildfire throughout the inner city streets of the eastcoast especially in Philly/NY/NJ/CT, where crews of kids are ripping “12 o’clock wheelies” in large groups right in traffic. I believe the majority of the “BikeLifers” have bypassed learning about the overall history of BMX and might not even know they’re riding a big BMX bike. They might just think it’s called a “BikeLife” bike based on the trend alone. That’s my observation on the “BikeLife” culture. Great vid. Great topic.

@zland919

Жыл бұрын

They all copied their names the "oneway" shit and the "bikelife" from the dirtbikers in philly....my whole life I've seen kids riding wheelies for blocks following packs of dirtbikes.....I heard of "bikelife" I believe before se starting making those 29ers.

@zland919

Жыл бұрын

Also now I live in the suburbs and ride a Sunday high c to help the circulation in my legs....and the little kids on my town mock me for not wheeling....even tho they never saw the real bike life on dirt bikes in the hood nor do they know anything about real bmx....they only care about wheelies and having the same bikes....reminds me of hype beasts...they even Inflated prices in certain products by reselling them for more like they are Jordans😂

@WaveLordLuis

Жыл бұрын

@@zland919 Yeah man so much to agree with in what you typed here especially the “hype beast” aspect.

@dmoqppsoysc

11 ай бұрын

do these bike life fools only do whelies? or can they do other tricks like barspins, etc

@artymcflyy6755

7 ай бұрын

@@dmoqppsoyscthey do barspins while riding wheelies it’s actually dope

I started riding again in my 40's. Back then to get a 26" single speed BMX cruiser in the UK you were pretty much limited to SE's. So I got a DC edition Quadangle. I thought the #bikeslife thing was an SE marketing thing. Life got in the way of that now ten years later I've just bought a Subrosa 29 Mallum. I don't think I fit the #bikelife #wheeliebike scene. I'm just a fat bloke trying to stay alive by way of BMX. Great channel. Really informative.

@gettobythesea

Жыл бұрын

Fellow Brit here. I’m 27 used to ride BMX in my teenage years and wanted to get back into it so I bought a 26” dirt jumper (Octane One Melt) to ride street it’s pretty much a big BMX but more comfortable with the front suspension. Loving it so far might be worth checking out if the bike life/wheelie bikes aren’t your scene.

@yardsalecycles

Жыл бұрын

Try putting bmx bars on a older mountain bike gives you better geometry and has gears to help out on the hills

@domone1201

Жыл бұрын

Hate this lame trend, it’s not Bmx

@M4DBMX

Жыл бұрын

I'm 43 just got into BMX, love it, so much fun

@skylarsoper241

10 ай бұрын

MidSchool is where it’s at for me , 03 pro team condor it’s a 40 plus pound bomber built to the hilt , this way I can still hit everything I want skate parks street , broken ass skate parks , ramps … and just send it . I don’t think that a person could do half the stuff dudes on 20inch do

Bike life bikes are made in a way that makes it more comfortable to sit and pedal long distances. That's why some ride outs are pretty long. Its about being out side pedaling in the sun having fun. The biggest difference in bars is backsweep but most ride what they like so theres no wrong answer.

@domone1201

Жыл бұрын

That’s a road bike.

@x88868

7 ай бұрын

​@@domone1201the sheer confidence of the OP comment 😂

@insanetaco98

2 ай бұрын

And yet those of us that ride bmx and rode back in the day were running brakeless, 100psi, slammed slim ass seat, and 20" wheels riding miles and miles a day while also hitting stair sets and hand rails.

@marianobacolores1236

Ай бұрын

hahaha DA!

I’ve rode hybrid commuter bikes the last 20 years, and recently made some friends on some group rides that all rode big tire bmx. I didn’t like standing out so I decided to try one and love it. To me, it’s basically a urban/modern take on a beach cruiser. We’re all just a bunch of old farts that want to look cool when we ride, but we’re to old, fat, and have bad knees to be doing tricks on 20”.

I think the 24 inch are the sweet spot 50% freestyle and 50% cruiser

@JohnnyG-Jeggee

Жыл бұрын

I 😍 my twofour goose. I own a 26 i hardly ever ride

@LemonySnicket-EUC

8 ай бұрын

At 62 years old that's what I'm after.

@RM-hg8jq

3 ай бұрын

I have a 24 inch GT with 9 inch bars (I’m 54). To some, I have a bike that doesn’t make sense. To me, I have the perfect set up to have fun.

@EvendimataE

3 ай бұрын

very correct.....im 5'8", i think th 26 and 29 are too big for tricks

@WitchyKatz

Ай бұрын

@@EvendimataE They don't even make 26 inch wheeled mountain bikes and 27.5 and 29 inch wheeled bikes are doing tricks and getting air that a bmx would never survive and most people riding BMX could never pull off. Take a look at a mtb set up for trials and watch what some of those guys are pulling off.

I’m just getting back into riding. Trying to influence my son to ride. It’s been nearly thirty years since I’ve owned a Bmx. This channel is a great resource. Thank you for what y’all do.

Could phu do a video on bmx 20” bikes vs dirt jumpers for dirt jumps? Keep up the good videos Alfredo and the team!

@AlfredoMancuso

Жыл бұрын

We can do such things! Thank youuu! 💜

@clappedham

Жыл бұрын

@@AlfredoMancuso sweet can’t wait

I agree with you guys, I see a small bmx bike and big bmx bikes, I just like to ride period. I would like to know the difference as well. Great channel guys always happy to see new videos. I support anything bmx, I personally like the racing bikes myself, but enjoy riding at the beach too.

I recently picked up one of those 29" watermelon High Cs just to cruise around on and i love it. It's great out of the box but i did upgrade the seat/post and brakes.

Epic bikes forever ! Thank you so much for this channel I love this with all of my soul and you remind me of an old school brother of mine Thank goodness

I used to wheelie on my Shwinn Stingray all the time! Now that was the bike life! Lol

Thanks for always clarifying PHU 🫡. Don’t forget to follow us on Instagram @_epicbmx and @alfredomancuso

Thanks for telling me about the museum the other day when I called in. Big ups and I'm getting some black widow pedals.👍👍

@AlfredoMancuso

11 ай бұрын

👊🏻👊🏻

I took a 700c commuter bike and put a bmx stem & 8" bmx bars on it, best comfort upgrade IMO.

Also there’s several terms for a bigger BMX Bike to distinguish it from traditional 20” BMX Bikes. I’ve heard it being called Bikelife bikes, Big Boy BMX, Big Bike BMX, wheelie bikes, and just traditionally called BMX Cruisers referring to any bike 24”, 26”, 27.5, and especially 29” bikes. To me they’re all the same no matter what you call them and if they’re used for ride outs and wheelies and wheelie tricks. And I’ve seen people use all of them for ride outs and wheelies. It’s just easier to wheelie 27.5 and 29” bikes though, so I’ve heard. They’re all part of the same BMX family imo

I'm 52 from San Diego and we used to call big bikes with BMX parts "Tankers" not sure if other kids called them that. Either way, lots of fun. Having fun buying parts and building my own just like back in the day. Stoked!

Hey Alfredo, I got a problem with my freewheel, my pawl teeth in the freewheel is not springy so it's not engaging and my bike does not move when I pedal , how do I fix it

You should drop more videos it entertaining and informative 👌

I really want to get a newer bmx since getting my son his 1st 'real' 20"bmx se pk ripper, im 40 now ,haven't had bmx since the haro group 1 fusion way back in 96..definitely want a entry to mid level complete 20" bmx but im stuck between the- 20" cult x huf devotion ,which has the old school look to it , or the WTP crysis ,are they good bikes forall around riding?..any help would be appreciated

I've got a 29" a 26" se bike and a few cruiser bikes, you can wheelie any bike, at my age, I'm just out enjoying the ride, maybe a few stair cases from time to time.

All 3 of those are definitely bmx bikes. In my day we just called the bigger ones cruisers. The biggest cruiser they had back then was a 24 inch. Bmx is definitely evolving.

I love my Monster Ripper. Nice and smooth cruising around all day long!

I need a 14 mm rim for a 29” do u know where i can get some i have been looking for days

I like how you break this down haha biggest thing is that ppl are getting back into bikes

I modified my Felt Red Baron (24x3" beach cruiser) with BMX forks, BB, stem, and pivotal saddle... klunker style bikelife.

Great knowledge!

I only like the SE landing gear forks and the soft lightning bolt seats. I put them on my 24 because I liked them the best out of my other options…I don’t really like the se bikes. I have full size gt 4 piece bars on my 24 and not the squat bars because I find taller bars help in the pump tracks and jumps, especially the skate parks. Forget what the trendy girls like, I built my gt 24 to ride, not look at. Love the channel

Love it !!

In my opinion BIKE LIFE is LIFE HAVING A BICYCLE. It doesnt matter what kind of bike you have. BMX, Mt Bike, Road Bike, any size.. etc. its all about the fun and love you have riding your bicycle.

@x88868

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, but you know those "bike life" douchebags don't think so.

I saw this couple around my age in Huntington Beach, 40s, Riding really big versions of a BMX bike but with taller motorcross bars and they were just cruising around together. The bikes looked really comfortable and easy to ride. Any idea what it was?

Just hit 39 got myself a kink curb it's all about getting out side having fun

Maybe I'm overthinking it, but I was looking to get a BMX bike with the intent of learning tricks, but to also ride it for my 6 mile commute to work daily. So I'd be looking for a 24" to be somewhere in the middle? Or is that not necessarily how it works?

Ethan is very very right about that I have a Sunday 29 inch and it the perfect set up

Can you make a video an updated video on brakes. I just changed the lever tightened the brakes and now they feel worse

Any advice on a BMX/Wheelie bike for me at 6-03? Just interested in doing wheelies.

@dustinberg2774

9 ай бұрын

Check out Gt or se iam also 63 and just ordered a29 Gt pro series I can't wait

my take on this is that it boils down to the "aesthetic" of the bike life subculture. railed seat, vbrakes, low bars, all components that are pretty much available/transferable/salvagable from a 26" (and up) wheel based bikes can be used as bike life bikes. random extra parts lying around when you have bigger wheel bikes. bmx components, with all the trends and innovations has gone past the vbrakes and railed seats, and pretty much are destroyed in the course of riding them; while bigger bikes, with less aggressive riding style, they remain. i'm guessing, those who initially start from riding (aggressive) BMX are less likely to move to "bike life." rather they stay in bmx and become "BMX lifers" while those who chose the "bike life" are those that either started out with bigger wheeled bikes (hence the availability of parts) or racers who love to wheelie, or both. the newer generation of bike lifers are the ones who started seeing posts of wheelie bikes that wanted to join in the fun, and hashtags and posts has coined the term "bike life" to associate the aesthetics to the type of bike they see and want. i also assume that BMX gives of a more aggressive connotation to its name and riding style (and look,) while bike life gives off a more chill and cruising type of riding. anyway that is my quite long 2 cents here. btw, if ethan requested fit for a type c version of a bike, was that the reason why phu was at s&m picking up a custom ordered frame with ubrakes instead of vbrake mounts? are we gonna see ethan riding and doing tricks on it?

I grew up in the 80's with BMX and back then, they were all 20". I consider that a BMX bike exclusively. The other stuff are new school derived from the original which again was 20".

@mrfishbulb7187

11 күн бұрын

Exactly. Back then the bigger 24" variants were called cruisers.

I'm 39, I totally agree with you however and whatever you ride it don't matter, we're still on bikes riding

My wheelie bike back in the day was a Huffy with the cheater slick tire.. The good ole days..

I Bike Life a Haro Downtown 26 right now. Would love to get an SE.

Is it possible to put a quick release seat post clamp on a 20in freestlye setup bike? If so,why don't more bmx riders do it?

@mikeybeazley3

Жыл бұрын

It’s possible if the frame doesn’t have an integrated seat clamp. My 22” fit came with a quick release clamp. Not completely necessary but nice to have, I imagine it’s not popular for 20” because riders don’t want to kick it open on a tailwhip or something

what do you think about the haro ceek?

I have a 1982 Raleigh B0mber (have to censor that word or else KZread deletes my comment). Along with the Laguna Cruiser, they're basically the granddads of these bikes. Yes, I'm aware the Raleigh B0mber was more inspired by klunkers, but from what I can tell, it was popular with BMX kids here in the UK. My one actually had some yellow double flanged old school BMX grips on it when I bought it. I've swapped them for some cream bvllet (have to censor that word too) style ones because I wanted more of a beach cruiser aesthetic. Also swapped out the goofy looking saddle for a proper beach cruiser one with chrome conical springs. Looks cool af. I can tell people here in the UK are puzzled by it though because you pretty much never see this style of bike over here anymore. Everyone moved onto mountain bikes around the mid-late 80's.

Crisp delivery 🍻

this is like a sub-genre of a sub-genre to me and really is just about individual customization depending in preference. some people focus on distance, some on tricks, some just want to ride.. it's like calling comedy "joke life".. yeah there's different comedians but it's all comedy.

"In these slanted eyes..." Phu Love ya man! Phu is a down to earth dude all the time, and this is just the cherry on top.

I wonder what the ratio change is from 44 traditional to new school and what freewheel size to get and weather or not it fits on any type of skyway wheel ?

@x88868

7 ай бұрын

25/9 is the norm now.

@joshbrown4759

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

I would love to take my bike to your shop. I have a Redline MX24. Where is your shop?

One more thing to add, I am a 1st Generation BMXer. In the 70's we took bikes with ape hanger handlebars, banana seats and sissy bars and we raced over all types of terrain, jumped the heck out of them til the frames busted. Then they became more purpose driven, but we still rode that bike delivering papers, riding to school, going to the store to pick up a pack of cigarettes for a parent. Then had raced it at a sanctioned track on the weekends. We had a kid in our neighborhood could out wheelie every kid in town on a Sears 10 speed bike. Anyway, just ride the bikes and have a good time. I'm now 60 and have never stopped riding and am about to jump back into racing BMX probably on a 26er. SEND IT and STAY RAD!!!

I am just here for the bikes

@AlfredoMancuso

Жыл бұрын

That’s my sentiment too!

In the 80s, a 24 or 26 inch bike was called a Cruiser. BMX is, or was in the 80s, bicycle motor cross which was racing at a track. There was 20 inch class and cruiser class. Then there was freestyle which was solely 20 inch bikes. Doing tricks in an empty pool, half pipe or flatland. Bike life are people who like to just ride and do a dew tricks, like wheelies. SE seems to be the bike of choice. If Scott could see how his SE brand has taken off in the last 25 years, he would trip out. SE started as a bmx racing team in the late 70s. Just ride and have fun!!

Phu bar height is all personal preference. Most Pivitol seats being narrow with down sloping sides in the back the dont offer the same stability when in wheelies also the Pivitol seats are limited in how much you can tilt forward.

@AlfredoMancuso

Жыл бұрын

Solid points!

I remember when me and my friends used to take ten speed parts and put the on 20" bikes and the other way around even. Believe me a 20" wheel on a ten speed is really crazy looking and even crazier to ride.

i have 2 29-inch bikes a gt pro com red and white tires and i have the big flyer in this vid great fun bikes my big flyer is a little different

Thanks

I ride a sunday model c with fit raw deal bars with a 10" rise. Im also 6'6"

That white bike is a Cruiser style "US Bike Life" bike; that 20inch is an adult BMX and is mostly for freestyle, but I use mine on dirt jump tracks and pump tracks; and that Green Bike of yours would be classed as a "DJ Bike" in the UK aka a "Dirt Jump Bike". I didn't realise that I used to live a "Bike Life" until this video, used to ride BMX in bmx parks and dirt trails, used to ride my full suspension mtb on the streets following DJ and BMX bikes down steep flights of stairs and doing wall rides, then in my alone time ride my narrow tyred road race bike for countryside riding.. Just getting back in to bike lifing 12 years later, and now do trail mtb with wife, road race biking by myself, and will be getting back in to BMX on a tarmac pump track circuit next year 👌

Your shop is Bike Life Rock on !

I like this channel

I like your channel.👍

Sorry to be such a noob, but what's the deal with the straps on the handlebar?

@x88868

Жыл бұрын

It's for the pride movement.

He said the "lizzo" size😂😂😂

I be jumpin my big ripper all day down stairs , on banks it kills it all just gotta go fast and jump as hard as you can

@Ohms_vs_Draaggs

Жыл бұрын

Also not into combos or any that, wheelies are sick when done og bmx style

@AlfredoMancuso

Жыл бұрын

Heckyess

I rode bmx bikes all my life. As a kid in the 90s with GT bikes, through high school and adult age at sheep hills and street riding. I’m almost 40, my back and knees taken a toll from all the stuff I did as a teenager. I currently ride a GT pro series 29”. I don’t partake in any of the “bike life” type riding. I just ride with my kids. I simply like this giant version bmx bike because it fits my old dad bod. Still feels and looks like a regular bmx bike, but with the large frame and wheel size it cruises comfy like a beach bruiser.

I’ve been trying to find out what those type of bikes are called. I thought bmx bikes were small. I want something between a bmx and a beach cruiser.

@Anth230

4 ай бұрын

larger BMX are BMX cruisers....

I own 5 (29”) rippers…i love them all…..its an expensive collection…..but id give anything to have my 20” (1985) chrome looptail mongoose or my 1991 chrome 20” gt mach one or ‘87 pro performer back……next bike i plan on gettin is the 29” gt world tour performer, you know the blue one….back in the late 80’s i had the ‘87 pro performers both the pink and the white one….loved both them bikes…..i was a GT kid back in my 20” days

Its a Serfas Reactive Gel Seat on a 29er GT.

I have the fit dugen bars on my 29

Bmx is my life on a bike, you can run any style of bars, depends on what is comfortable while you stand up.

IMO If you take part in group rides that's bike life to me size is your choice. Frame size and geometry ride what fits you best for your intended purpose ,for instance if you wheelie and combo a lot go with 26"-29" , but if you ride vert ramps, skate parks or street go with a 20". As far as bars go I go with what is most comfortable for my slowpoke old man style but I prefer the 9" SE Power Wing bars on a 26" cruiser. An old bike shop owner I used to buy from told me think of a bike like a woman if it feels good ride it. 😁

I wish we had a bike shop like this in my town I would only shop at this dudes shop

Ok so I'm all inclusive. Bi is 2 so if it's 2 wheels and what YOU'RE comfortable on it's bike life. It can be bmx it can be a racing, mountain bike or a Schwinn. If it's what YOU like and you're enjoying life while you ride it, it's bike life and we can ride anytime. For me, it's the vibe or the energy of the ride so let's not over think it and be cool to one another.

it is because of Tod lions and his relationship with se. and i totally agree with you alfrado. you rock

I agree bike life is about riding, fixing, customization.

I don't even ride BMX I just watch your videos

@sebikelifeusvetparatrooper

Жыл бұрын

🤔

I'm an old (46) dude just living my dream of having my 8-yr old ride my 86 Schwinn Predator Free Form, while I cruise on a 26" GT. I love these discussions, seeing the bike porn, and just generally knowing we're out there. Thanks.

@LemonySnicket-EUC

8 ай бұрын

Same here at 62 yrs young.

Bmx bikes, all of them

Not only is he a philosopher but also a poet.

Stuart is correct in that "bikelife" is just a term se uses to sell the whole get out, ride out, show off your bike and what you have done with it. It seems to be a fashion thing and sharing your style with others. Who comes in and asks for "wheelie bike?'" I think ur messing around and making fun of us older, heavier dudes that can't ride a 20" comfortably. I know your tucked into conservative as Hell OC, but ya don't wanna fat shame ppl that have money and interest in getting back in shape doing what they enjoyed when they were skinny lil kids. I appreciate your vids and they helped me work on my bmx bikes of all sizes cause thats what I dig, bmx life.

Lol I ride my big flyer in a skate park pool it's a BMX 10 in fu bar neon yellow

Bike life is all bikes, but mostly used around the big bike community.but any bike and biker is part of the bike life.All bikes are wheelies bikes. But for sure people see the bigger bikes more commonly used to mainly ride wheelies. Smaller 20 inch bikes used more for jumps, grinding and tail whips.

@JimP419

Жыл бұрын

To begin with bikelife came from the urban dirt bike wheelie riding scene. SE made bike for Rob and Big (yes mtv) then rrdblocks insta gained popularity and SE leaned into the scene.

@AlfredoMancuso

Жыл бұрын

I can see this point

@Dannyskitchen11

Жыл бұрын

@@JimP419 thanks for the history. Appreciate it

I baught the bmx bike ktm 600 eouro and i got bike life i got it for 220 e they are both good

so why ride a wheelie bike versus a DJ are they different?

The best right bike is the one you are having fun!

One thing worth mentioning even though they share the same geometry is changing the gearing ratios to fit the different riding style. You're going to go nowhere fast if you have a 12/12 set up and definitely not win very many races but you can pump track or wheelie just fine. It is so typical of humans to come up with new buzz words and phrases, just as they do with cultures to make a place for everyone to fit in. ULTIMATELY, they are ALL bikes! Get on them and have fun.

Were you in the fourstar movie?

Don't forget about those custom stretch cruisers/custom lowrider show bikes. Those bike clubs claim "bike life" as well. Anyways, just wanted to give a shout out to Phu who let me build my Cult/Huf Plantlife BMX 26" bike at the shop when I bought one off of him. Hucker was there too and I was microdosing on some shrooms because I was nervous going into the shop because I'm a huge fan of this channel and the guys/gals in the shop. I thought you would be there too, Alfred. Bummer that you weren't but I had a great time hanging out and it was one of the most EPIC days in my life.

BMX bike is BMX based on how it's built not based on what size. Bike life is anything that deals with a bike. You just have customers who have no idea what they are talking about. plain and simple! thank you for coming on here for setting these fools straight!

💯💯💯

bike life is not a bicycle type its a lifestyle "bikelife bikes" are jus big bmx bikes , i been riding wheelies damn near my entire life (I'm 38) we didn't have (bikelifebikes ) we jus rode either bmx or mtbs as the bmx bikes got bigger it made it easier to wheelie kids jus took the term bikelife and went crazy wit it to the point bikes are being classified for sales , anyway bike life is a life style i know people that are bike life that ride 20 in bmx i know ppl the have fixies i now mtb riders the key is to ride your bike

I forgot to mention BMX/MTB conversions also being a new trend.

@CarlosGarcia-ow3cv

3 ай бұрын

Different pedal strokes for different folks!!!!

Bike life bikes are bikes that are wheelie ready. They are bikes that’s are meant to make wheeling comfortable or easier also the bands on the handle bars are for holding water and bottles and can also hold speakers for ride outs.

As for me myself traditional BMX and cruisers

A lot of the younger guys with the big bikes are short as heck,so the taller bars are uncomfortable for some (just my opinion).

Yesirrrr

My Bike Life is remembering every time I got my GT bikes stolen from age 12 to 15 that I decided to leave My Bike Life in the past. Sucks! That’s what understand about Life Bike.

@AlfredoMancuso

Жыл бұрын

🥲🥲🥲

I like the Sunday over the SE because it's chromoly frame

I own 2 Big Rippers, 1 Big Flyer, 1 High C, 1 GT World Tour 29", Haro DMC 29", 2 S&M ATF 29"s, Haro DMC 26", 2 S&M ATF 26"s and a S&M ATF 24". I have customized all of them and done some matchy-matchy color stuff with most of them. Cleary, there are differences in quality(both frame and components), but they are ALL great bikes and a ton of fun for my family and friends to to have our own neighborhood ride outs. I can wheelie all of them, but I can also wheelie my beloved, old 26" Gary Fisher mountain bikes. And there are other brands out there that have great big BMX options that can be used for #bikelife applications. I would say that any bike can be used for #bikelife and SE bikes ARE BMX bikes. That being said, not all BMX and/or bikelife bikes should be used for all BMX applications. I weigh 300 lbs, so I would not ride street/transition/park/dirt jumps on my SE bikes or the Haros as they are aluminum frames(which are more likely to crack than bend underneath me), but I can and do use my ATFs (all sizes) as I am tall enough to control them and they can take the beating(4130 will flex and bend a little before it cracks). A lighter, experienced rider MAY be able to use an SE bike for those applications without issues. And let me be clear; that statement is not an indictment against SE or bikelife, or what country a particular bike is made in or what materials they are made from. I'm just saying like anything else, you should ALWAYS choose the tool that is designed and built for the task at hand. If you want to 360 down El Toro, use a well made, Pro level 20" 4120 frame. As far as #bikelife, if you are going on a ride out and wheelie-ing, then use whatever bike has the geometry that feels comfortable for you. Don't be a clone. Don't worry about other people think or say(including random guys on the interwebs like me). Just get out there and have fun! Thanks to Albert and Phu the great content as always!👊

I love bmx❤❤❤