_"Here's an emotionally charged song that perfectly displays the Onceler's greed and also fits perfectly with the original narrative and theme of The Lorax."_ Illumination: *We don't do that here.*

@absolite6

3 жыл бұрын

Writers: _Creates Biggering_ Illumination: *Chopping block for this I think*

@vigilabo3007

3 жыл бұрын

I mean it hits to close to home for them

@jokirb2739

3 жыл бұрын

@@vigilabo3007 you mean close to home

@vigilabo3007

3 жыл бұрын

@@jokirb2739 ya, It was 4 in the morning for me Imao

@user-kx8pu6ys5i

3 жыл бұрын

@@vigilabo3007 you mean too?

I like how in “How Bad Can I Be?” The Lorax is trying to save the trees, but in “Biggering” he’s trying to save the Onceler.

@dearlybeloved4041

10 ай бұрын

i agree so much with this omg

@charlieelioooo

10 ай бұрын

Dam bro this is good

@huntercool2232

9 ай бұрын

@@charlieelioooo It wasn’t my comment unfortunately. I got it from another video, but it was just so good I thought I’d share it.

@yg6484

9 ай бұрын

@@huntercool2232well I’m glad you did.

@MikeWazowskixxx

9 ай бұрын

Exactly what the anti woke community is trying to do They don’t want to be against minorities they want misled black people to be grateful again

I can't imagine how pissed the guy who sung his soul out for this song was when Illumination rejected it

@astrobeth

Жыл бұрын

Ed helms

@calibricalypso

Жыл бұрын

​@sanrio enjoyer Iirc, this is the demo, so Ed Helms himself never sang it, because the song didn't make it that far in the production process (which is a shame, really. We were robbed)

@mairokindasus8807

11 ай бұрын

I would have loved to actually hear Ed Helms sing it, but yeah it's a shame that it got rejected in the first place

@sloft-70

11 ай бұрын

@@mairokindasus8807 AI can do it, I mean Mr Krabs and Freddy Mercury sang it.

@fernoagent8581

11 ай бұрын

​@@sloft-70that i a cursed sentence i don't want to hear it again

“Hey why’d you cut biggering? Do you think it would scare the kids?” “No I think it would scare the adults.”

@driveknight026

6 ай бұрын

Amazing comment

@GigathanLifts

6 ай бұрын

"You think this would scare the kids?" "This will give parents nightmares" -Jurassic World

@QrittneyWashington

5 ай бұрын

Lmao

@Runninglizards

4 ай бұрын

Still an underrated comment

@nunya6537

2 ай бұрын

@@GigathanLiftsIs that... good?

I love the scene in the elevator, it shows his descent into the dark side and when Lorax said "Pride" you see the bottom of the elevator descending showing his "Pride" pulling him down since he doesn't want to admit to De Lorax's words. His "Pride" is making him refuse to admit that his "Pride" is pulling him down. Beautiful. Edit: Spelling

@WhySoAnimated

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! That seq was my favorite bit to do.

@soulangela7154

3 жыл бұрын

It's such a gorgeous scene, I absolutely loved that too. The colour change, and as well as the lines being drawn harder around the eyes. Like he looks more and more annoyed as well. Like, actually starting to get fed up with what Lorax is telling him, as well as it being on the cue of him being called an idiot. I would absolutely have loved if this storyboard was used in movie, it's sooooo good. Also the mirror part!

@thelastprotectorofoverain1035

3 жыл бұрын

@@WhySoAnimated That was really interesting and I hope to see the final product soon

@redpanda6497

3 жыл бұрын

@@WhySoAnimated This storyboard is absolutely amazing.

@binoobear9607

3 жыл бұрын

@@WhySoAnimated I would love to see the updated one!

This song, and a lot of the film's concepts that seem like they were heavily dialed down in terms of darkness, makes me think this film suffered from what Terry Pratchett calls "A script that had all the hallmarks of being good until the studio got to ot."

@BillZypher

8 жыл бұрын

+Thomas Johnson Pretty much showing the harm of corporate greed. Never thought that a moral could be so meta...

@AvitalShtap

5 жыл бұрын

@@BillZypher Imagine that was on purpose LOL

@paladinboyd1228

5 жыл бұрын

Mag Magnet, I wouldn’t be surprised. But that level of intelligence isn’t in Hollywood.

@dracocrusher

4 жыл бұрын

"We can't have a film without a villain, throw in an obvious bad guy." "Can't have a kids film without a love interest plot, make the movie about getting the seed to impress a girl! Gotta hook that female demographic." "Can't make a kids film without comic relief, got to shove in stuff like those successful minion guys we have." Meanwhile, in the original animated film....

@firerulezz116

4 жыл бұрын

It's Illumination, literally founded on the principle of making the cheapest films possible with the highest public appeal possible.

Y'all gotta keep in mind, this was just one song. It would've been extremely weird for only this one song to be so dark, so it's safe to assume that the rest of the movie would've followed suit in tone had this gone through. One can only imagine just how powerful this movie's message would have been, and likely was planned to be at some point. A movie about corporate greed ended up being ruined by corporate greed. The joke practically writes itself, and yet I don't feel like laughing.

@ladyalicent705

7 ай бұрын

Okay but “A movie about corporate greed ended up being ruined by corporate greed. The joke practically writes itself, yet I don’t feel like laughing” is an absolutely raw fucking line. Have you ever considered becoming a writer Mr Bill Cipher?

@8is

7 ай бұрын

I hope we will one day get a movie where the capitalist will look down upon all his work, all he has accomplished, all the consequences of his work, se all those who have damned him, accused him of exploitation, short-sightedness and how god will send him straight to hell and realize one single thing: it just doesn't matter; they were all wrong and he was right. Kind of how Huck, at the end of "Huckleberry Finn", determines his own morality against that of his community, his state and his god and feels like a should be the villain and yet is surprised at how he simply isn't.

@D3c4yingb0n3s

7 ай бұрын

In the original version of the opening song the towns people were actually supposed to hate how fake thneedville was. It was going to be them singing about how great things are while things just casually go wrong. Sort of like they’re singing to cope. It was supposed to acknowledge how messed up thneedville was from the start, and how the people knew that but felt they couldn’t do anything. This movie could have been so metal.

@diegosanchez5412

7 ай бұрын

@@D3c4yingb0n3sHearing this made me hate the final product even more.

@estrella-om7tu

6 ай бұрын

@@D3c4yingb0n3s also that originally Ted was not going to be a simp, he was going to be a greedy and selfish child who only wanted the tree to be the first child in the city to have one since there are no real trees in Thneedville, you can hear that in the demo, another fact is that in part of the song a hill is mentioned with the name of its founder (el onceler) that will become a pizza chain, implying how materialistic and consumerist they became, There are more interesting parts in the demo that I don't know if I can mention everything, this song along with the other songs removed from the Lorax indicates that the movie was going to be very different and more faithful to the original book, a shame

Imagine how insane Tumblr would go if this song made it into the final cut

@estrella-om7tu

9 ай бұрын

oh no

@ChrofonicPlague

9 ай бұрын

The wouldnt be able to handle themselves lmao

@trixsanimations5109

9 ай бұрын

Yeah we wouldn’t, trust me. Edit: Sorry I meant *would*

@estrella-om7tu

9 ай бұрын

@@trixsanimations5109 I wish

@florantlover5554

9 ай бұрын

​@@trixsanimations5109he speaks for the tumblrs

Dr Suess is crying that this wasn’t in the movie.

@jelliforever8580

3 жыл бұрын

Dr.Seuss crying sounds nice

@pcvrisepic

3 жыл бұрын

@@jelliforever8580 what

@adorations

3 жыл бұрын

@@jelliforever8580 everyone makes mistakes. if you ever became famous, and your life gets put under a glass, people can literally find the worst things you did and use that as reasons to dislike you. he changed, read deeper. he brought happiness to children all over the world before he died, and that's what matters.

@pcvrisepic

3 жыл бұрын

@@jelliforever8580 I know, but nobody really is, I don’t think it’s fair to put famous people under a glass of good and once you see something bad, to think of them as a bad person. Normal people do the same bad things as he did and everybody makes mistakes

@justinus8608

3 жыл бұрын

Everyone is crying this wasn't in

this makes the onceler seem like an actual villain rather than a guy who did an “oopsie” and ruined the environment

@account7117

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. A villain that doesn’t care for the environment if he gets money would’ve been so much more realistic. Sometimes there are just bad people in the world.

@Uhshawdude

Жыл бұрын

The onceler isnt even treated as a villain in the movie, they infantilize him by taking away his responsibility for the actions of his company. He’s easily manipulated by his cartoonishly evil family, who are made that way to distance them from real industrialists. The onceler in the song is repeating what many real people have told themselves to assuage their guilt for their companies crimes. This change pulls any sort of anti capitalist messaging right out of the movie.

@anitaxin7329

Жыл бұрын

But his mom convinced him lol

@xoidparhsin

Жыл бұрын

@@anitaxin7329 you could use that argument but still, if this song was used it would make him sound like he has no remorse for his actions.

@Mr.Smeghead

Жыл бұрын

But- but I didn't MEAN to destroy all the wildlife, I promise it wasn't my fault! My mom convinced me! I swear it was an accident! Anyway, on a side note, Thneeds are now half price.

“Who cares if some things are Dying” This Oncler was built different

@dreadedgamer23

8 ай бұрын

He still said basically this line, just focused on the trees, instead of animals, too.

@ibis03

8 ай бұрын

​@@dreadedgamer23there is a huge difference between lines "Who cares if *few trees* are dying?" and "Who cares if *some things* are dying?". In the first one, he just says about just a few trees and tries to show that it's not very much that he's destroying. While in the second line, he clearly shows that he doesn't care at all about anything, he doesn't care what will die and in what amount. Sometimes even replacing 2 words can change the whole meaning of a quote

@dreadedgamer23

8 ай бұрын

@@ibis03 Yes, that is basically what I was saying, just in less words. I was also saying that the words not that different, not the meaning, which is different.

@AYVYN

4 ай бұрын

Well, it’s a principle of nature and a company is an animal

@adora_was_taken

Ай бұрын

@@ibis03 idk, i always interpreted the "few trees" version to be him trying to downplay the damage because he knows how bad the truth is. like "what? no, i'm not destroying the whole ecosystem, just a few trees".

Hear me out How Bad Can I Be still happens the same, being the Onceler telling Ted what happened It then cuts to the Onceler after Ted leaves, where he recalls what really went down, that being Biggering.

@Cry_Crow.-.

Жыл бұрын

@@Lime_light24probably, because he does it on the original movie too

@boogaloobender3462

Жыл бұрын

I thought the 2 songs should be just the once-ler at different points in his growth.

@scrp6638

Жыл бұрын

@@boogaloobender3462 how bad can i be is him fantasising, and biggering is what he does? sounds pretty good too

@ConeHeadMan1

11 ай бұрын

Biggering is the oncelers song, how bad can i be is o hares

@goober81

11 ай бұрын

​@@Cry_Crow.-. *original book

The darkest and best part imo is when he's rationalising it to himself by talking about how a company's an animal, and it's needing fed to survive and that it's (in a sense) part of nature itself. Really adds a lot of personality that is missing from the song that's actually featured in the movie. (I like it, just damn this would have been great fully animated).

@drawnwithlove3499

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't that how abuse works

@asdfghjk1576

3 жыл бұрын

There was a similar type of lyric in “how bad can I be”, but it’s def better in this song since it sounds more genuine and emotional

@alexpyndus4702

3 жыл бұрын

My favorite part is when he's on the balcony near the switch with the Lorax and he's deciding to switch it or not, then when he looks at the crowd he choses to switch it. It really shows how much he was dedicated to the company and how greedy he was.

@notto5937

3 жыл бұрын

The animal that eats has got to scratch and bite and punch, And the animal that doesn't is someone else's lunch.

@moosecannibal8224

3 жыл бұрын

@@aliensexist1661 I'm not denying that it is also that, simply that it also implies what I was saying through subtle implications.

I like how you portrayed the Lorax as more of the Oncler’s morality. When the Lorax was talking to him about greed, we could see the Lorax shadow but not him actually. And the Lorax rejecting the Oncler at the end symbolizes his morality being all lost.

@dominicesquivel3901

3 жыл бұрын

That’s how the Lorax should have been in the whole film.

@anon4435

3 жыл бұрын

And that he looks absolutely terrifying yelling “pride”. The Lorax, or rather the Onceler’s morality, should’ve been terrifying. A worthy contender, battling the Once-ler’s greed.

@nalsium2828

3 жыл бұрын

Alternatively, it could be seen as him losing all respect for himself

@amnxji4723

3 жыл бұрын

@@anon4435 real he looked pretty scary yelling pride

@WormTexture

Ай бұрын

i saw "lorax shadow" and read ldshaowlady.

I feel like dreamworks would have done The Lorax right.

@KindaEpic

Жыл бұрын

Dreamworks does everything right

@thatoneguy609

Жыл бұрын

@@KindaEpic Dreamworks is kind of a crapshoot, their quality is all over the place

@funky5008

Жыл бұрын

@@thatoneguy609only used to. Their young kid movies are shit but the others are amazing

@mr_man_Sir_man

Жыл бұрын

​@@thatoneguy609 DreamWorks movies are ether masterpieces or garbage

@alexiawilliams4619

11 ай бұрын

@@mr_man_Sir_man i agree, they put out some GREAT MOVIES such as httyd, shrek, etc, but there are some that just aren’t that good at all..

I like how this storyboard shows less of "look how fun for kids this movie is!" and more of how the Onceler's goals went from just keeping himself afloat to destroying as much as possible to make as many thneeds as possible to make as much money as possible, to keep, well, biggering. Also the line "who cares if some things are dying" hits soo much harder than the version that is replaced with trees, it just gives more emphasis on how the Onceler is actually causing so many animals to die and most likely go extinct.

@TylerFNF

Жыл бұрын

also the song is a bop lol

@madisnzz

11 ай бұрын

Emphasizes the impact more as well. Trees and animals and people and the EARTH itself from capitalism.

@NottaMovieStar

11 ай бұрын

I hate to be that person because I completely agree with what you're saying but.... how bad can I be said "who cares if a few trees are dying"

@mushnl4863

11 ай бұрын

i now headcanon that some things are only trees, and that all the animals are alive and content now in 2023

@starropenisthe4th786

10 ай бұрын

Also the line about the lawyers denying the truth to the public

I love this version of the Onceler, mainly because he's well aware of all the harm he's doing, he just doesn't give a shit

@NerfTheLamp9

Жыл бұрын

Just like the original old movie

@HellVirus0919

Жыл бұрын

Mhm

@Bro-cx2jc

Жыл бұрын

Does this make the end of the song a villain's "heel-face turn" when he sees for the first time, the damage he's caused, through his past eyes rather than his present ones?

@_TehTJ_

Жыл бұрын

Pretty much like in the book

@bl_nk5047

Жыл бұрын

get help 🙏🙏

"Biggering" is what really happened, "How Bad Can I Be" is what you say in court

@sofialozano4031

3 жыл бұрын

Onceler was the one telling the story, so we could as well assume it actually WAS what happened and he just told the story as though it was the How Bad Can I Be to make it look less bad.

@questionablemotivegirl6054

3 жыл бұрын

Well said Dude!

@rammy9133

3 жыл бұрын

Damnnnnn

@zbroadcast3414

3 жыл бұрын

Ted: So what happened after your Thneed started getting successful? Onceler: (Flashback of Biggering) ...It was my family’s fault. Really.

@smbsuperfan271

3 жыл бұрын

@@sofialozano4031 never thought of it like that. Damn that’s powerful. Alright you’ve created my new headcannon.

idk how to explain it, but I feel like the onceler looks a lot more intimidating and scary in this storyboard than he does in the actual film

@lemonoid7793

11 ай бұрын

probably because since it is a storyboard, the face isn't given details with makes it seem more like he, who used to be innocent, because a greedy person and anyone can turn into him. Also because his eyes are almost never seen and when they are, they look like he is insane

@estela654

11 ай бұрын

@@lemonoid7793 that makes sense

@estela654

11 ай бұрын

@@lemonoid7793 Considering that the eyes are the window of the soul, he wants to say that he has no soul.

@goober81

11 ай бұрын

The film absolutly butchered the lorax and turned him into nothing but some kid who was manipulated by his parents, when originally he was a man who was corrupted by greed,and found out he was corrupted when it was too late

@DeterminismisFreedom

9 ай бұрын

It baffles you? Really? It baffles you a corporation didn't go with an anti-corporation message and instead went with defanged "recycle, kids, that's how you save the planet" message?

I am just glad they actually released this to the public cause man I love this song

@Spidercola

Жыл бұрын

This is fan made lol

@Blueskiiiiii

Жыл бұрын

​@@Spidercola nuh uh

@Spidercola

Жыл бұрын

@@Blueskiiiiii read the description

@getaround1276

Жыл бұрын

@Spider the storyboard is fan-made but the song is official

@Spidercola

Жыл бұрын

@@getaround1276 I’m not stupid I know that’s not the point of the comment

"who cares if SOME THINGS are dying!" You almost had the balls illumination, you almost had the balls...

@peepeepoopoomyguy7457

3 жыл бұрын

Now,it has hen

@KallenMalefic

3 жыл бұрын

Think about it. The writers knew this song wasn't going to make it. But they wrote it anyway. They had it sung. They had the SB made. Why? Because one way or another, they wanted to say "fuck you" the the companies.

@stingray12323

3 жыл бұрын

There's a similar line in "how bad can I be" but this one is more darker tone

@Rancord123

3 жыл бұрын

@@KallenMalefic never thought of it this way, it makes a whole lot of sense tbh

@xleplayVA

3 жыл бұрын

The difference between the how bad can i be vs this one is who has agency and knowledge of the actions. Its darker cause in this one the onceler knows he is straight up killing animals and other things than trees as a result of his actions, yet he keeps going. Im thinking about making a rough 3d versio. Of this as i 3d model for a hobby, and seeing how it turns out put to this cut song. See how good it couldve really been

I like how the Lorax here talks that Pride is what feeds Greed. Not talked about enough. There's a reason why pride is considered the deadliest of the sins

@1_____________________

3 жыл бұрын

Although it is true, the answer isn't as simple as trying to shut your pride off. Pride is your identity, getting rid of your pride would imply getting rid of one's self. Letting that "worm" grow out of control, that's where the problem is.

@sheevhernandez3869

3 жыл бұрын

Like vegeta because he allow cell become perfect, became evil again by allowing babbity controlling him for a bit and when he fought perfect cell, he allow his pride come our and he was defeated. Pride may as well be the most dangerous sin in the world because it can hurt like vegeta and other heros/villans in the past. Do you get what I'm trying to say here?

@SunScourge

3 жыл бұрын

"This is all so gratifying"...

@artemiostriantafyllou7986

3 жыл бұрын

@@1_____________________ agree, except pride is not your "identity", it's not the nucleus of your existence.

@geardestroy

3 жыл бұрын

Wnating better things is not a bad thing, but when you only care about yourself and having power, and you hurt others for it, then youre just feeding your ego, greed and pride are not bad in istelfs, its when you take them to the extremes when you stop caring and start hurting

I have absolutely no idea how nobody in Once-ler's company thought to harvest the seeds from the truffula trees they chopped down lmao

@Illusion397-

Жыл бұрын

yeah they were kinda.. 🫡

@poyobotyahoo7494

Жыл бұрын

It's kinda the point. They were so greedy, so prideful, so careless, that they ended up biggering so much that the only thing they had left to eat to bigger, was themselves..

@devontheundivided9815

11 ай бұрын

Company property hand them over

@dionaeamuscipula6649

11 ай бұрын

Say that to the people chopping down the amazon 🫠

@devontheundivided9815

11 ай бұрын

@@dionaeamuscipula6649 lmao you actually believe in the amazon?

I know this is just a storyboard but at 4:09 the way the Lorax horrifyingly looks at the Onceler, knowing he wont stop is brilliant as it is haunting

What's heart-wrenching is that this song- not "How Bad Can I Be"- comes with the realization that the Lorax isn't just trying to save the trees. He's trying to save the Once-Ler.

@absolite6

3 жыл бұрын

That's deep.....and heartbreaking.

@hunnybunny3211

3 жыл бұрын

You are accurate sir

@livinglegend9709

3 жыл бұрын

That my friend is another reason I like this song

@BadNyaruko

3 жыл бұрын

Lorax is the conscience of Once-Ler.

@spookyho5994

3 жыл бұрын

bruh, don’t make me cry rn-

This is so ironic that this got cut because of corporate greed

@lucaspec7284

3 жыл бұрын

how bad can they be xD

@thegarshinator7178

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucaspec7284 they were just biggering *ironic*

@thereestersheetser543

3 жыл бұрын

But ya know you can't really blame greed no that's stupid you see it has a little worm inside and that one always needs to feed and it's never satisfied you get it? and the more you try to find it the more it likes to hide and that's a NASTY little worm and I like to call it Pride

@thegarshinator7178

3 жыл бұрын

See? That's why they're biggering

@justsomeguywhoishalfghoul7247

3 жыл бұрын

They won’t stop biggering and triggering more biggering

Don’t forget we also lost “YOURE ALL GOING TO JAIL!” So many scrapped things could’ve saved the movie

@chronictheaterkid

10 ай бұрын

literally this song and 'you're all going to jail!' could've been the only good parts of a hellhole movie

@estela654

10 ай бұрын

also the demo songs of the movie and the original ideas that could turn the movie into a good movie

@vilmavenla

10 ай бұрын

But instead we get funny yellow guy and YOU DIRTY DIRTBAG and the meme pop song

@Mihael_Lugo

8 ай бұрын

​@@chronictheaterkidp

@WEYYYY874

3 ай бұрын

@@vilmavenlaand let it grow 😄🔫

I like the line “I need a bigger staff”. He’s most likely referring to a staff for his company. I prefer thinking it as he wants a bigger scepter to go with his bigger chair and hat, like a king on his throne.

*_You will never get to watch a dark, rock opera version of The Lorax_* I could just cry

@foolofhearts4553

7 жыл бұрын

cutie patootie SAME

@elpatoarcade2320

5 жыл бұрын

Just end it

@twinkiesmaster69

5 жыл бұрын

life ain't worth it

@maniakk3563

5 жыл бұрын

I mean the original lorax wasnt meant to be a comedy. Sure it was cartoony because it's Dr. Seuss, but it was supposed to be a semi-dark story with a serious environmental message

@alvarodoismil

4 жыл бұрын

If they do another Lorax remake i hope they make it actually good and put this song (when it belongs)

Illumination scrapping a song that would have objectively made The Lorax a better movie overall and properly conveyed the message of the real Lorax story in a dark tone, solely for more profits, is the most Illumination move ever

@Jamsalt

3 жыл бұрын

Its especially funny given the theme of the lorax

@randomcat5262

3 жыл бұрын

hypocritical of illumination. they probably pulled the plug and said that "Biggering" was too anticorporate since they made them seem evil despite conscious, and replaced a song that said corporations were evil due to ignorance, which the big corporation was more OK with since it gave them a better excuse when something actually bad happens.

@jeanmichellelaurent

3 жыл бұрын

Illumination are the anti dreamworks, They care more about fart jokes, and toys than the message, Unlike dreamworks who use a bit of goof off humour to keep the kids happy, but not shit all over the true narrative message.

@seeyoulateralligator2640

3 жыл бұрын

it’s so ironic considering the message of this song 😭

@WakerOfTheCryingRain

3 жыл бұрын

It would’ve destroyed zootopia if they put this song in the movie

This song gives "Hellfire" a run for it's money. It sucks so much that we were robbed of it, especially since Lorax SHOULD be an unapologetically dark story.

@estrella-om7tu

5 ай бұрын

What do you mean by hellfire?

@estrella-om7tu

5 ай бұрын

Well actually, originally the movie was going to be darker and closer to the original book, this song is not the only one removed, there are more songs that are on the soundtrack that if you listen to them you will realize what the plot was originally going to be like.

@chinchy5545

5 ай бұрын

@@estrella-om7tu "Hellfire" is the villain song of Disney's "Hunchback of Notre Dame". It's widely considered to be one of the best villain songs ever, as well as one of the darkest.

@chinchy5545

5 ай бұрын

@@estrella-om7tu Thanks! I'll have to give the rest of the soundtrack a listen

@estrella-om7tu

5 ай бұрын

@@chinchy5545 I think there are similarities in biggering and hellfire

Everyone talks about the Onceler’s solo at the end but my favorite part is Lorax’s monologue. It’s so brutal and honest.

Imagine Danny Devito giving us a rock speech about greed and pride. They took that from us.

@Logmao.

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@Saul_Bueno

3 жыл бұрын

As they say in south park; “THEY TOK R SUNG!”

@LuckyRare

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair it'd be an odd message to send if you compare greed to a pet "Feeding pets is bad." XD

@WitchHunter93

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuckyRare I think the messaging is that if you overfeed your greed then it gets out of control and always wants food. So it's kind of like an obese dog that won't control itself.

@LuckyRare

3 жыл бұрын

@@WitchHunter93 But at the same time "If you feed it, it'll just get hungry again" applies to every living being. Generally you shouldn't feed greed at all.

Although this song wasn't in the movie, let's all be grateful that we were able to hear it. We might of never knew that a song was created to truely represent the Lorax

@brandonb4742

3 жыл бұрын

Amen brother

@Treeeee2008

3 жыл бұрын

This could've been one of those lost media cases where the original draft for the movie was scrapped and none of it would be able to find online, luckily they added this and all of the other deleted songs to the official soundtrack.

@ace_pro_gamer1

2 жыл бұрын

The only reason its in the soundtrack is because the band the preformed it had clauses for it so it had to be in the movie and cd or just the soundtrack

@totlicker

2 жыл бұрын

kind of ruins the effect tho

@captainkraken3550

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah.

Instead of a G-Rated happy story about the onceler getting peer pressure from his parents and accidentally chopping down all the trees, we could have had a PG-Rated rock drama about the onceler actually doing his crimes on his own and not feeling any remorse for anything he destroys. Illumination should create a darker version of this movie with Biggering in it, i feel.

@spidermenramirez8232

2 ай бұрын

But if the movie is PG, they had to make it PG 13.

@estrella-om7tu

Ай бұрын

@@spidermenramirez8232 If the movie had been pg-13 it would be the first Dr. Seuss adaptation to have that rating

@Hecuba445

Ай бұрын

Honestly, Biggering actually makes it PG than PG-13 because it justifies bringing that parents. Kids won’t be able to understand the song’s initially but they will talk to their parents and it is up to them whether or not they should explain it.

“How bad can I be” is what he told Ted “Biggering” is what actually happened

@Smell-Of-The-Game

Ай бұрын

Why not both

Imagine the emotional impact this would've had.

@EyeOfArgus

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately Illumination doesn’t like taking risks

@yatzibe

3 жыл бұрын

they preferred the catchiness of "how bad can i be" /neg

@justsomeguywhoishalfghoul7247

3 жыл бұрын

Well we would have to change a bit like give some build up to this and than make the movie more darker so that this doesn’t feel out of place in the movie also so it feels more like the book and than we got a good movie on our hands

@anib8863

3 жыл бұрын

@@justsomeguywhoishalfghoul7247 The original script was probably much different then what we got, this would have likely fit in context of said script.

@theguestkid5651

3 жыл бұрын

yup

"Who cares if some *things* are dying?" is a whole lot scarier--and hits more close to reality, than just "Who cares if a few trees are dying?"

@sarcasticsuperjerk18

2 жыл бұрын

Right? That line implies that he’s legit killed some of the creatures or even workers either on accident or on willful ignorance, and the sad part is that’s basically how a majority of companies are. If I recall there’s a story of a pretty big mining company (can’t remember the name) completely covering up MANY fatal accidents in the workplace and it never came out till years later, and when it did they made a half-assed clearly corporate apology without giving the families compensation at all.

@suraivase7285

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarcasticsuperjerk18 Honestly, companies that are discovered to have done this kind of crap should be forced to dissolve and the heads of the company should be arrested, and not be given the option to pay using money, or if the option is available, it should be high enough to put them in finantial ruin.

@sebastiantucto5647

2 жыл бұрын

Not only that but the way he sings it makes clearer his evilness

@davifernandopereiraborges5168

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarcasticsuperjerk18 i never thinked he may also be refering to workers,but surely he is killing lots and lots of animal because of how they not got food and surely got intoxicated by polution,plants are also living beings and they are all dying.

@whadayadoin3300

2 жыл бұрын

@@suraivase7285 you say as you're typing on one of those computers those companies manufacture

this hits so much harder after seeing the greedy and borderline EVIL behavior studio CEOs and executives have put on display recently. their refusal to pay actors and writers right on top of plotting to use AI to replace them is super depressing. they even plan on dragging the strike until the SAG/WGA members start losing their apartments and houses. this whole situation is the embodiment of "who cares if some things are dying? I don't wanna hear your crying"

@rikiishitoru8885

5 ай бұрын

It's a democracy, Hollywood - the execs and the union members and even the struggling workers - brought this upon themselves with their own spending and voting patterns. The writers easily clear $100k for uncredited work and still can't afford to live? They're all animals and they'll eat each other before admitting they've been living the wrong way

@The_True_Mx_Pink

4 ай бұрын

Capitalism! Yay...

@rikiishitoru8885

4 ай бұрын

Californians brought this upon themselves with their terrible voting patterns $150k is poverty wages in LA because of them

@thesteelsquid863

3 ай бұрын

​@@The_True_Mx_Pinkunfortunately, it's probably not going anywhere, either..

@fatcat5817

2 ай бұрын

The fact the gov was supposed to keep them in check but instead they give the 2A to illegals.🤭

"who cares if some things are dying?" I fucking love this part

@prorussiandogestarplatinum578

Жыл бұрын

crying*

@yohan6942

Жыл бұрын

​@@prorussiandogestarplatinum578nope it's "who cares if some things are dying I don't wanna hear you crying". I doubt they would use crying two times and also it's pretty hard d at the beginning

@Upgradedcamera767

11 ай бұрын

way better than "who cares if a few trees are dying?"

@yohan6942

11 ай бұрын

@@Upgradedcamera767 exactly! A lot more powerful

@haziqhakim5995

3 ай бұрын

In the original the trees probably weren't the only one dying humans were also dying

This song actually fits what the Dr Seuss's original Lorax was aiming for with the Onceler

@Sleepy12ftPanda

3 жыл бұрын

That's why Illumination hated it.

@Iluvtallyhallsm

3 жыл бұрын

yes it did

@an8strengthkobold360

3 жыл бұрын

So much better

@ahorribleterribleperson

3 жыл бұрын

When a movie that is supposed to be a commentary of the atrocities and dangers of big, soulless corporations is handled and produced by a big, soulless corporation The Lorax is what you get.

@drawnwithlove3499

3 жыл бұрын

@@ahorribleterribleperson probably cuz Illumination is a big, selfish company

I mean, I see the irony. The Once-ler cuts the trees. They cut the songs. Biggering it is.

@absolite6

3 жыл бұрын

Chop chop......

@odinudin4313

3 жыл бұрын

Wow..

@sasukes.6370

3 жыл бұрын

at the end of the day, it is a corporation that makes this movie and has to promote it. they can't wound their ego too much so they just decide to cut the song for that reason and then make some lame excuse about it being too "dark" (despite knowing most kids wouldn't actually understand or pay attention)

@I_am_somebody_1234

3 жыл бұрын

Big corp needed some biggering of its own

@pashenka1546

3 жыл бұрын

@@sasukes.6370 Not to mention, most of Dr. Seuss’ books had really dark meanings and messages behind it.

“WHO CARES IF SOME THINGS ARE DYINGGGGGGGG!!!! I DON’T WANNA HEAR YOUR CRYINGGGGGGGG!!!!” *Bro that honestly hits way to close to home…*

@Bandicoot_Productions69

3 ай бұрын

a detail that I always notice, onceler seems to simply go crazy in these last parts from "I Must Keep Biggering", honestly this makes the character much scarier than he actually would be

@Bandicoot_Productions69

3 ай бұрын

Biggering was a song that could show the onceler's change in behavior, going from greedy to sadistic madman. (lmao This sounds like a creepypasta haha)

2:08 *That is a nasty little worm... And I like to call it PRIDE* This movie could've left a gigantic mark if they'd chosen to take this route. The Lorax's bit about unrestrained greed and personal pride is so real it burns.

Anyone else have a hunch that this film was meant to be waaaaaaay darker until it got watered down to what we have now by the execs? This certainly gives credence to that hypothesis...

@carmena.gonzalezrios8372

3 жыл бұрын

J. Han at least Zootopia conserved it’s original message and turned out to be good unlike the Lorax

@PikaChu-fr4fq

3 жыл бұрын

What if we got a Tim Burten remake :O

@VeloxFox

3 жыл бұрын

I actually did have a hunch when I watched the film on its screening. I knew there was a darker story behind there (I was not a dumb kid)

@sad-4ss

3 жыл бұрын

@ouh ́ would have* i also agree... so so so much. I wonder why the film was cut so that it doesn't paint corporations in such a dark color hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

@wildfire9280

3 жыл бұрын

@Big Deo if it does happen though, I'd love to see Illumination in particular face some comeuppance

I like how he doesn’t just say he “wants” a bigger office or he “wants” a bigger chair, he NEEDS it. It really shows just how greedy he’s gotten that he can’t distinguish between a want and a need.

@SleepyMelodies24

2 жыл бұрын

@mrbeastt ok? XD

@ssgpizzalover515

2 жыл бұрын

same its a good touch

@zzodysseuszz

2 жыл бұрын

No shit. The song was not being subtle at all with that message. Not even remotely Edit: you guys are braindead. You actually thought you were making valid responses to me by claiming you weren’t trying discover a hidden message. If you weren’t trying to discover a hidden message than your comments were literally the floor is made of flood joke. You LITERALLY repeated the entire message of the song. The song is literally about the onceler becoming greedier and greedier until he becomes consumed by his greed completely. That was the entire point of the song, you just told me that you liked what the song was literally fundamentally singing about and then tried to act like it was outrageous of me to say it was obvious. Grow up you’re embarrassing yourself. You were literally belittling and mocking me for saying the obvious was obvious as if it’s an outrageous thought. Holy shit. You have all reached peak idiocy

@BurningBridgeStudios

2 жыл бұрын

@@zzodysseuszz I wonder what you morons are actually thinking when you say stuff like this. Like.. I don't get it? Did you think he was purposely trying to find some secret message? I feel like you people want to look smarter but it always makes you look like an idiot that has a low reading comprehension.

@venusianblivet9518

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair the distinction is arbitrary

i really want for someone to turn this masterpiece into a 3D smoothly animated clip

@yourwifi-dn7le

Жыл бұрын

my life is not complete until I find it

@PureMusizuEntertainment

Жыл бұрын

​@@yourwifi-dn7le same

@PureMusizuEntertainment

Жыл бұрын

Imma find a animator

@LizardGames_25

11 ай бұрын

We're gonna need a miracle, we'll have to just pray that someone comes to make a 3D animation of this that looks like something that could have been in the movie

@PureMusizuEntertainment

11 ай бұрын

@@LizardGames_25 fr

Not only does it sound better as a composition, but the singer sounds so much more into his performance. He can feel himself being consumed by his power as the song goes on, and that's nothing short of amazing

I will never forgive them for ruining the animal that doesn’t winds up someone else’s lunch. It’s so powerful here but there it was just annoying and came across as childish. This is a masterpiece and illumination is symptomatic of the very problem the movie was SUPPOSED to talk about.

@xloisx4603

3 жыл бұрын

They made ‘How Bad Can I Be’ just a goofy song so now it’s a meme. If they kept Biggering, it wouldn’t really be a meme song, it would be more of a song that would make people want to re-watch the film.

@audreyii6750

3 жыл бұрын

Even better in "Biggering" the the metaphor is/works as a call back to the conservative push to make corporations "people" under the law. A corporation isn't a person/animal. It's not alive. It won't starve unlike real animals/people. But businessmen still push that lie. At his worst, _this_ Onceler is indistinguishable from real businessmen who do/say anything to keep making more & more money, including destroy the environment & cause irreparable harm to people & animals. In "How Bad Can I Be" at his worst the Onceler is naïve & unaware of how much damage he's _really_ doing, something not true to life when it comes to billion dollar corporations. They know exactly what they're doing. Every time I come back to "Biggering" I get mad all over again!

@jessicacreed7773

3 жыл бұрын

Love how they kept the exact lines about the survival of the fittest in how bad can I be *except* for the part about corporations lmao that's not telling is it

@Cobalt985

3 жыл бұрын

@@audreyii6750 I'm mad for both that reason and also the fact this song straight fuckin' SLAPS and I can't believe I didn't get to hear this in the theater

@technotrapper

3 жыл бұрын

Its why no one likes their suess movies

You know, "How Bad Can I Be?" is essentially the Kidz Bop version of "Biggering," someone said once. I don't remember where I heard that though, but it's not wrong.

@hunnybunny3211

3 жыл бұрын

Yo funny

@Errlich

3 жыл бұрын

I think it was on the music video of biggering (auto gen by youtube)

@Errlich

3 жыл бұрын

Sadly KZread decided to turn off comments on auto generated videos (for some reason) but I think I know the exact words. "How Bad Can I Be is the Kidz Bop version of this song" You got the comment almost right.

@TheJackish90

3 жыл бұрын

@@Errlich Yeah, that's where it was! We shouldn't let that message die, my friend.

@kittykittybangbang9367

3 жыл бұрын

@@Errlich Why did KZread decide to do that? It was a great way to discussed music, and sometimes had the highest quality of the songs uploaded.

Imagine putting your heart and soul into making one of the best songs in film history, only for it to be cut because it hurt some business man’s feewings

This excatly what should have been in the film. He knows his, past, he knows all the people he's hurt, but his pride wont stop him from biggering. Lorax also played a more active role in this storyboard than being pushed around in "how bad can I be". Wonderful work.

@alchemistofsteel8099

5 ай бұрын

I think both songs should have been in the movie. It should have started with "How bad can I possibly be" and the transitioned into "Biggering"

@justaguy6216

5 ай бұрын

@@alchemistofsteel8099 Honestly after I heard this, how bad can I be is kinda mid.

The line "Who cares if some things are dying" gives me a mental image of a barbaloot being killed by one of those axe machines

@user-ky1vr8cj5t

3 жыл бұрын

Damn...

@hunnybunny3211

3 жыл бұрын

That must be terrifying.

@thelastprotectorofoverain1035

3 жыл бұрын

Well, in how bad they say trees, but things mean yea, its not just the trees, its the animals, the air, and the environment

@hunnybunny3211

3 жыл бұрын

@@thelastprotectorofoverain1035 good point 😉👍

@Jake-kt7ws

3 жыл бұрын

I feel bad for laughing

The “Who cares if *some things* are dying?!” Would’ve hit so much harder to the audience. Especially since in the film we all got to know and love the adorable furry creatures the oncelor met.

@d3cay1ngaway33

2 жыл бұрын

There is a similar line in how bad can I be ("who cares if a few trees are dying") but I feel like it's over emphasized unlike in biggering where the lyrics are more subtle

@thelegendarybloxycola4727

2 жыл бұрын

@@d3cay1ngaway33 It also says "few" instead of "some".

@GreekTurkey

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelegendarybloxycola4727 and "trees" instead of "things." It creates plausible deniability and removes autonomy, where this song doesn't.

@lelacorbin5986

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah

@m00nsickn3ssx6

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

The fact that this would’ve not only been the best scene in illumination history, but the greatest villain song in animation history but they just said ”nah” is so insane. Hellfire really has nothing on this

To think how good this movie actually would’ve been if this song would’ve made the cut. Not only is it a better song, but it’s more organic to the story and it would’ve allowed a better opportunity to write a character growth arc for the Onceler. The movie would’ve made a lot more sense, and it would’ve been more faithful to the original onceler. He would’ve actually learned that he should actually give a shit about the environment, instead of realizing he made an oopsie and didn’t replant the trees. I’m one of the few people who actually unironcally like the Lorax movie (and I ironically enjoy How Bad Can I Be) but this movie would’ve been so much better with Biggering and would’ve allowed for more potential for the movie to be more respected.

@huntmoped

11 ай бұрын

If biggering hadn't been cut we would have never gotten HBCIB

@TheGalaxyWings

8 ай бұрын

It's a symptom of the movie's failure, not a cause

@Diabolical420

Ай бұрын

HBCIB is a bop tho

"OH NO! This song is too close to what we are actually like! We need to cut it from the movie!!!"

@user-cc4ds7zq6z

3 жыл бұрын

Illumination all the time)

@deadacc6338

3 жыл бұрын

facts

@valentinafoley1387

3 жыл бұрын

sad, isn't it.

@TGOM22

3 жыл бұрын

@@valentinafoley1387 yep

@brendaluv2017

3 жыл бұрын

i hear ya

Wow this is just so….human…in a way that most don't like to ponder.

@minespatch

10 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the execs rather stick to "hipster" than sage advice for quality.

@bazookaburnzgrease9576

10 жыл бұрын

It's sad that when I was a kid, we had songs like "Hellfire" and "In the dark of the night" in our movies but this is somehow too dark now.

@GalaxiaStars

6 жыл бұрын

+BazookaBurnz Grease It is ! It doesn't try to make any excuses for the Onceler. The song full on addresses the fact that he made a choice to keep indulging in this unhealthy form of consumerism. That it was a result of him just refusing to self reflect on his actions that led to the Truffula forest being nearly wiped out. And I love that.

@bazookaburnzgrease9576

3 жыл бұрын

@raffle baffle This comment is six years old damn bro.

@EtamirTheDemiDeer

3 жыл бұрын

God forbid we hold up a mirror to the audience and the executives

Maturing is realizing that "biggering" is better than "how bad can i be."

@tangerinecowboy

Жыл бұрын

I think they're both good to be honest. How Bad Can I Be, is pretty iconic, sounds decent, and gets the point across to a specific degree Biggering, is spectacular, but I'd say isn't as known about as How Bad Can I Be ( to the average viewer ) sounds extraordinary, and gets the point across really well. How Bad Can I Be, is good in a more lighter tone, but Biggering is good when trying to convey a true lesson, which in a way they both do, but Biggering gets the point across.

@astrobeth

Жыл бұрын

​@@tangerinecowboy I think both of them should of been in the movie, put how bad can I be first as a lighter version that shows he doesn't realise what he's doing and then later on in the movie use biggering as a darker reprise to show the damage

@BurritoVillage

Жыл бұрын

@@astrobeth They would probably have to make mild changes to how bad can i be because he does give in to pride and greed in the song, and we want that in Biggering

@TrifectShow

11 ай бұрын

​@@astrobethYeah, best of both worlds

@monke7919

10 ай бұрын

​@tangerinecowboy biggering prioritizes telling the orginal message of the book making the ounceler the villain how bad can I be is making him a oblivious villain and prioritizes getting stuck in your head over actually sending a message biggering he says "who cares if a few things are dying" in how bad can I be he says "who cares if a few trees are dying" a notebale difference in meaning

I like how this also shows the creation of thneedville, and actually shows the onceler as an actual villain and his decent into this greed and cruelty instead of being mamas boy who listened to their fam and “how bad can I be”?

@estrella-om7tu

6 ай бұрын

It also shows that the onceler is the founder of the city of thneedville

“if the customers are buyin’ and the money multiplyin’... who cares if some things are dyin’?” DUDE that line is so good why didn’t it get into the actual movie?? oh wait, because illumination was too scared to face the reality of corporate greed and consumerism in a kids movie because they were afraid it’d be “too dark”

@christopherc5456

3 жыл бұрын

Ilumination: BUtt iTS noT kID FRIendLY

@ericjohnson6120

3 жыл бұрын

plausible deniability. "some things are dyin'" got censored to "a few trees are dyin"?

@peepeepoopoomyguy7457

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherc5456 I agree with illumination studios.i was scared in a bad way.

@sharkpopsharkie

3 жыл бұрын

That line is actually in the song weirdly enough but its washed out and forgotten because of the poppy and oblivious tone its hard to understand the songs message there are some things that stayed but they became washed out and over time lost their meaning and just became another line

@stupidenby

3 жыл бұрын

@@peepeepoopoomyguy7457 that’s the point

Biggering is what actually happened How bad can i be is just the way the Onceler told the story to that little kid

@babyghast4379

Жыл бұрын

Y’know what, this is an answer I’d be happy with. Imagine if there was a bonus short or maybe even another film that was about how the Onceler lied to the kid as it shows what really happened with this song being the main moment in the film/short.

@theultimatememelord5494

Жыл бұрын

This is now my headcanon.

@PrincessGalaxia9

Жыл бұрын

That is hilarious and super realistic at the same time.

@PrincessGalaxia9

Жыл бұрын

@@babyghast4379 DUDE omg yes that'd be perfect

@videoms1271

Жыл бұрын

That's actually pretty smart. He wouldn't try to portray himself as a soulless monster, rather as a businessman

Something I noticed in the lyrics while listening to this song again: In the last part (where the chorus takes place), the Once-ler says this: "Though biggering is triggering more biggering!" But then, in the next part, he states: "And biggering is triggering more biggering!" "Though" is replaced with "and," like Once-ler's fully accepting what he's doing. This could imply that Once-ler was having second thoughts. Or maybe I'm looking too deep into things.

@dand1253

4 ай бұрын

If you notice, he also uses "and" at the very start of the song. That definitely makes it seem like the "though" represents him acknowledging that what he's doing is wrong, or at least has downsides - because he _did_ hear the Lorax's warning, after all. He just chose to _ignore_ it. In the beginning, he was just being reckless, not fully understanding the implications of it all. At the end, he's _willfully blind_ to the problems he's creating.

@upcomingperson4098

4 ай бұрын

@@dand1253 Yeah, he does know what he's doing is wrong. I think he's just lying to himself.

@mimsycookiiess

Ай бұрын

@@dand1253I love this interpretation!

Composers: yall really think this would scare the kids? Producer: kids? We already shit our pants

It’s my head cannon that he actually sung this in the real story but replaced it because he didn’t want the kid to hate him

@grandmasterpax3248

2 жыл бұрын

Good thinking

@jazzcl7

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine

@cinnamonskys4444

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine how sanitized his story was is purely just so he doesn't make the kid hate him, scared, or not trust his motives for giving him the final truffula tree seed

@adamtomascaicedogomez4048

2 жыл бұрын

@@cinnamonskys4444 wow. The Lorax story s just becoming more and more interesting.

@aftermathofthefirestudios5521

2 жыл бұрын

and that shows that even after going though all of that and being left out of society for what he's done to go live in his trailer, he's still going to lie because of just how m u c h he got corrupted and how much he corrupted himself and I think that's powerful to teach kids......... never pride yourself to much and NEVER let greed overtake you because you might never be able to go back and that is truly powerful to me

I know, I'm probably terribly late for the party, but my dear god, this song is so great. Slow start, story development, the cut to the overwhelming silence right after the apex, the climax - everything just lines up perfectly. And not only that, but the overall message is much deeper that overly simplified "nature is gud cause we want trees". How Bad Can I Be has it's own merits, but Biggering is a straight up masterpiece, and realizing it's forgotten forever to be buried in the dumpster brings a single tear to my eyes.

@jackierocha5096

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t feel bad, I only found out about it last night

@phantasy9082

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackierocha5096 what a coincidence I find it today

@Bluejay-jg6hz

3 жыл бұрын

@@phantasy9082 Same

@Spectra651

3 жыл бұрын

I never realized it before now, but... we were robbed

@insertnamehere5615

3 жыл бұрын

I know right!!! This song is sooo fricken cool! It's literally a masterpiece, ur right.

3:56 is amazing. And 3:58 is too. The once-ler, overwhelmed for a moment by guilt, reaches out to the Lorax, as a sort of peace offer. It is far too late.

@SonGok11533

9 ай бұрын

Yeah then he sees how ppl love him by the shit he doing

@narsilthefreak6171

9 ай бұрын

The Lorax might have been rightfully angry at him for what he did, but if he had accepted his offer it might have stopped the deforestation. Just like in the old animated movie, it's not just the Once-ler that is to blame.

The writers of these songs appreciated and respected Seuss' language WAY more than the movie's scriptwriters.

People, just remember: This song is only a Demo. Imagine what we could have gotten.

@nicholasmahoney7820

2 жыл бұрын

Oh.....

@gabrote42

2 жыл бұрын

Wow....

@MrsBunny-hg4yg

2 жыл бұрын

What we “got” was a terrible pop song for children. They basically aren’t even the same song anymore.

@clouds-rb9xt

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrsBunny-hg4yg Well it's two different songs so yeah, I don't think anyone's arguing they aren't

@salmonish891

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think you can get much better than this

The Lorax needs a faithful, dark, and ambiguous rock opera adaptation with a segmented version of HBCIB, more realistic and gradual character development, and Biggering as the finale.

@geminfly

7 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@pastel-axle3197

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, yes and yes. I would most definitely watch that.

@geminfly

7 жыл бұрын

TESTMACORONI yeah same, I wanna get an animation program and make an hour long animation of how I wanted this movie to play out which won't happen until a couple of years because I need to go to an art college first.

@MrStarman926

7 жыл бұрын

TotallyAMetrocop this should NOT be the finale. It should be the end of act 1. The finale would be much better left on the ambiguous note of the original Seuss movie

@MrStarman926

7 жыл бұрын

Mercular yeah I think the idea of two plots is kind of interesting and they should make Teds motivation more than just impressing a girl

At first I didn't realize I needed all this stuff I had a little cottage And that cottage was enough A place where I could sit and knit A place where I could sell my Thneeds But now I've had a little time To re-assess my needs And I need a bigger office I need a bigger chair A bigger desk, a bigger staff A bigger hat to wear Because I'm biggering I'm figuring I'm biggering And biggering is triggering More biggering Hey, listen up, meathead I'm going to say this once, and I'm not gonna repeat it Greed ya see, it's like a little pet, alright? And the more and more and more that you go and feed it The more hungry it'll get But you know, you really can't blame greed No, that's stupid You see, it's gotta worm inside Oh yeah, that's right It's one that always needs to feed And it is never satisfied You get it? But the more you try to find it The more it likes to hide Now listen that is nasty little worm And I like to call it pride See, now that's why you're biggering Listen here, idiot I'm figuring on biggering But that biggering's just triggering more biggering Got that? Alright There is a principle of nature That most every creature knows It's called survival of the fittest And this is how it goes The animal that wins has got to Claw and kick and punch The animal that doesn't Winds up someone else's lunch A company's an animal That's trying to survive (survive) It's struggling, and fighting Just to keep itself alive I must keep biggering I'm figuring I'm biggering Though biggering is triggering more biggering I won't stop Biggering I'm figuring I'm biggering And biggering is triggering more biggering And the customers are buying And the money multiplying And the pr people lying And the lawyers are denying Who cares if some things are dying? I don't wanna hear your crying This is all so gratifying

@WeNeedAMeteor38274

10 ай бұрын

You need to get pinned!

@William_William_

10 ай бұрын

@@WeNeedAMeteor38274ikr

"Why are you trying? This thing is for childern, come on dumb it down a bit" A producer probably

@Rain_Sparrow

Ай бұрын

Like dude I'm so angry this wasn't in the movie, I get that it has a message that corporations do know what they ate doing and that's shit and how bad can I be has opposite BUT COME ON

Corporate greed is scary. The Lorax story is dark. If you don't wanna confront that reality, and try not to scare children, why make a Lorax movie then? Thats the whole point of the story.

@wandanemer2630

3 жыл бұрын

They did it for THE CASH.

@Ishidalover

3 жыл бұрын

Because funny fuzzy orange man does silly dance and makes Illumination the big bucks. Lol

@Doublemonk0506

3 жыл бұрын

Because they never learned the lesson of those who were biggering

@tiffanysantacruz6099

3 жыл бұрын

Money bruh they are hypocrites that don’t wanna scare off their cash bags

@chameleoncove

3 жыл бұрын

Also, why were you making this movie for children? This would have been fine as a PG movie.

Everyone feels bad for the singer, but imagine how bad the composer feels.

@ciarafirth6784

3 жыл бұрын

Like that’s so much work to put into a song that’s going to be cut

@World-Bass_Mapper

3 жыл бұрын

I think they knew the song was going to be cut.They just wanted to give the message.

@accountlol7409

3 жыл бұрын

@@World-Bass_Mapper I mean shove it in illumination’s face that they’re greedy

@idot3331

2 жыл бұрын

Considering this is just a demo of the song, I don't think the singer would ever be the voice actor of the actual onceler character. It's just a demonstration of the song by the music production team, not the final thing.

@captainkraken3550

2 жыл бұрын

True,bro,True!

The lyrics to this song is terrifying. It shows the truth self of the Onceler. He doesn't care about the animals, nor the trees, nor the Lorax, he only cares about the profits he makes from his Thneeds. THAT is scary, and that is a real thing happening in companies.

@estrella-om7tu

8 ай бұрын

It's no surprise because it was eliminated

I’m glad people haven’t forgotten about this cut song from the Lorax after all this time. *It really does go hard like no joke.*

@estrella-om7tu

9 ай бұрын

in this song we see what the lorax could be

this was cut to make the movie more relatable think about that, they were literally biggering

@PeeperSnail

7 жыл бұрын

The problem is that they didn't handle the Onceler well in the film. Biggering or How Bad Can I Be, no matter which was chosen in the end, would have still been a shitty attempt at making him relatable if they didn't properly developed his character. The shift from well-intentioned hipster to greedy smug fucker was too quick that even the fandom that came out of this movie had a hard time acting like the two were the same person.

@FuzzyLittleBastard

7 жыл бұрын

I think if they had focused on the Onceler instead of ted it would have been a MUCH better movie

@louche2388

7 жыл бұрын

remember the lorax approved SUV commercials? "AND THE PR PEOPLE ARE LYING"

@LadyYukihyo

7 жыл бұрын

I agree. The biggest problem of this show is they focused on Ted so they lighten Onceler's personality and moral as well.

@PokeTube

6 жыл бұрын

Gingereenio And It's A Kids Movie So No Smoking A Cigar.

Illumination: *critiques capitalism* Also Illumination: Oh shit I forgot we're a corporation

@charadreemerr4195

3 жыл бұрын

That is the very definition of the pot calling the kettle black

@King-Hammurabi

2 жыл бұрын

Capitalism is not the same as corporatism. They are more different than you think. Dr. Seuss' Lorax was anti-corporate, but not anti-capitalist. Do not combine these two ideologies into one. Oh, and spoiler alert: Dr. Seuss wasn't a communist either. He was a liberal Democrat.

@trianglepoodle7571

2 жыл бұрын

@@King-Hammurabi Corporatism and Capitalism are one and the same. Corporatism simply describes the state that Capitalism encourages corporations into, exploiting anything to get profit.

@King-Hammurabi

2 жыл бұрын

@@trianglepoodle7571 Capitalism does not necessarily encourage corporatism/exploitation. It's like saying that conservatism encourages hate crime, but that's not really true, just like capitalism doesn't encourage exploitation but has the potential to do so.

@cantthinkofaname5046

2 жыл бұрын

@@King-Hammurabi I know there is whole bad stigma attached to the word socialism, but a blend of capitalism and socialism would be the best bet for a more just system.

Dr. Suess is feeling a little better in his grave now that there are people who appreciate this.

And this cut right here is an example of why Illumination is it’s own worst enemy. They play things too safe, and keep their stories safe.

illumination: "wait, the onceler kinda sounds like us. let's change him to be more likeable so we can still sell merch"

@enigmaroad7217

Жыл бұрын

#ReleaseTheBiggeringCut

@zestyskunk

Жыл бұрын

DAMNNN

@babymanter0936

Жыл бұрын

Amazing.

@FeministCatwoman

Жыл бұрын

I swear

@noodles_poodles392

Жыл бұрын

😮

What's wrong producers, or whoever was in charge? Hit too close to home?

@hellcat5017

7 жыл бұрын

Apply cool water to the burn

@ultravioletgirl123

6 жыл бұрын

Cittymondo Hello 911? I’d like to report a MURDER

@martiqueheisler5959

6 жыл бұрын

Oooooohhhh

@spaghettibolognese5838

4 жыл бұрын

OUCH

@sammywhite2760

4 жыл бұрын

The higher ups: well the chart says...... Me: DO YOU THINK I GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE GOD DAMN CHART?!? The higher ups: 😧 Da fuq is your problem? Me: 🤦‍♂️ someone kill me.

I guess this was too real to put in the movie.

@Oij-Teh-Duckington

5 ай бұрын

Holy crap! Sup dude, I love your content!

@glitchtron4453

4 ай бұрын

It's very ironic that Ilumination didn't put this song in because of it putting the message out too clearly and being too real and as a result, became what this song is critisizing.

@glitchtron4453

4 ай бұрын

Also nice to see you here Goomba.

I believe that we should bring this back, in honor of Universal, who distributed Lorax, who made the brilliant decision to cut trees that were providing shade to striking workers around the studios. Because the irony is just... so palpable. After all, why does Universal care if some things are dying, they just want to keep Biggering.

can you imagine being the writer and storyboard artists who worked on this only for it to be scrapped for shallow bubblegum pop trash?

@a-s-greig

3 жыл бұрын

That's showbiz.

@thommygoot7696

3 жыл бұрын

@@a-s-greig And ironically, biggering.

@kittykittybangbang9367

3 жыл бұрын

You make it sound like pop music is bad

@theshockinglyeloquentdog9945

3 жыл бұрын

@@kittykittybangbang9367 It's not good

@kittykittybangbang9367

3 жыл бұрын

@@theshockinglyeloquentdog9945 The same thing can be said about any other music genre

"But you can't blame Greed. No, that's stupid." I actually can't believe how good this is

@mr.mirage3986

3 жыл бұрын

Metal is dumb. All metal songs suck and I am not the only person to say that and I actually speak about people who don't like this song not saying that everybody hates it like You say that just beacause You like it, everybody does You are selfish.

@mayaminuminati

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.mirage3986 Hol up I'm tryna find who asked

@christianboustani8284

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.mirage3986 All I said is the song was good and now I'm selfish? Alright, dude. It must be wild to live in whatever fantasy world you're in.

@luthient2605

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.mirage3986 ???????

@dickydopy4638

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.mirage3986 what the hell are you on about?

Biggering is such a masterpiece, accurately displayed how greedy and monsterous companies and big cooperations are, and is generally and amazing villian song

Rare that a song that is not only narratively but also musically getter gets cut. The song slaps and is a much better representation of how a normal person can turn into a greedy CEO of a company like say, I don’t know, the guys that own the minions

How Bad can I be: Who are you? Biggering: I'm you but stronger.

@clarissaokeSkittlecat

3 жыл бұрын

"Im you but way rocking"

@nguyenquang7785

3 жыл бұрын

“im you but bigger”

@sumi2570

3 жыл бұрын

Im you but progressive rock

@marx1095

3 жыл бұрын

No not just stronger BIGGER

@samuellinn

3 жыл бұрын

more like "I'm you but I'm BIGGERING"

I can't find the original comment so I'll just put this here again. Everyone is talking about that this should have been in the movie instead of HBCIB, but I think it'd have worked even better if they put both. Starting off with HBCIB as the Once-ler is still "naive" but doing increasingly questionable things in the name of money, which then returns as a dark reprise in Biggering (since they even share parts of the melody and lyrics) with a drastic tonal shift in the movie once he fully embraces his corporate greed and willingly descends into full-on madness, destroying the world out of his own avarice and newfound megalomania. By having a light-hearted iteration of the song in the beginning of his story that returns as a gritty reprise later, the audience would be able to see how far the Lorax has fallen from the "innocent" person he used to be, while still clearly seeing that he chose this path all by himself. It would have shown both how innocent intentions can go wrong (like the movie tries to), but alongside the original book's message that if a person becomes a monster like this, they'll have nobody to blame but themselves for it.

@Vera-od4hp

3 жыл бұрын

bruh that would’ve been beautiful

@Gamergirl-.-

3 жыл бұрын

I wish they could do a redo of the Lorax

@polkarfield

3 жыл бұрын

How far the lorax fell as a person

@etcetc1

3 жыл бұрын

fuck it would have been such a badass reprise

@eeeee3259

3 жыл бұрын

Damn this gave me chills in a good way

i could deadass write PARAGRAPHS about why they should have kept this and why they should have gone with the concept of the onceler being more villainous instead of silly tumblr sexyman edit: i did it. almost 1k words and an hour and a half worth of writing about why the this adaptation could have been so much better. i need to get a life. also wtf how is this song only a demo and this good? imagine if they finished it? like hello?

@yer-mum

Жыл бұрын

screw it First of all, in the original Lorax movie and the Dr Suess book, the Onceler was faceless and far more villainous, always being depicted in a dark environment. By keeping him faceless, Suess created the idea that the Onceler could be anyone or anything. Human, metaphysical, monster, physical embodiment of corporations, you name it. The Onceler could be you. This ambiguity and villainy were meant to be unsettling and scary. Even more so, because of the idea that it could be *you* doing such horrible things. By altering the image of the Onceler in this adaptation, making him obviously human and giving him a face, Illumination took away the Onceler's original purpose-- which was to make you afraid of what *you* could be capable of. Seeing the Onceler in all his silly tumblr sexyman glory takes away any unsettling feelings, because now it's obvious he is someone else. He is not you. He is a silly tumblr sexyman. You aren't a silly tumblr sexyman. You can't do what he did. You would never do what he did. By separating you and the Onceler, or you and corporations, or you and who-knows-what, they are creating the idea that he is only one person, one company, one who-knows-what. So long as it's not you, it's fine. Just as long as you aren't the one at fault, it's fine. Because there's absolutely 0 potential for you to be the Onceler in this adaptation, the fear of what you can do or what you're doing is erased. The erasure of the fear aspect in the story is counterproductive. If the studio really wanted to convey the message of saving the environment, don't buy into massive environment-ruining corporations, don't *become* the environment-ruining corporation, they would have kept the Onceler a faceless, ambiguous, unsettling character. But no, it's for the kids and they're sensitive. I mean, I understand. The target audience is kids. In order for the change this world needs to happen, we need to make the kids understand. But, kids are *very* literal. You cannot sugarcoat the lesson taught in this story. They will not understand. If not sugarcoating it means scaring them a little bit, then so be it. This brings me to my main point, about this song in particular. Not only is this song an absolute fucking banger, it actually implies that the original idea for this movie actually had a more villainous Onceler than the one we were given. The whole point I made above about him not being faceless or ambiguous ruining a key part of the story can pretty much be forgiven by this implication. After all, if they keep his villainy, in a way, the importance of whether or not he is ambiguous can be debated, because giving him a face and body humanizes him and can make one realize that humans are the problem. But that isn't the focus right now. Replacing this with How Bad Can I Be? was easily the WORST decision Illumination made with this movie. How Bad Can I Be?, again, makes the movie too playful. It isn't serious enough. You have to really read into the lyrics of How Bad Can I Be? to get the point across. Even then, it's very sugarcoated. Especially considering the upbeat music they put over it, and the relatively silly animation that went with it. I'm not bashing it, it's not a bad song at all. But it was not the right song for the movie. Because again, the whole point of the Onceler was to unsettle the person watching/reading. This song sounds and is mildly unsettling. It would make the watching the movie realize just how fucked up the whole situation is. It would make a child understand how downright horrible the Onceler and what he's doing is. How Bad Can I Be? just will not have the same effect. It barely touches on half of the key points Biggering does, and when it does touch on the ideas, it does a horrible job of it. Biggering actually touches on the idea of greed and pride, and how it can blind someone, leading them to pushing the limits and finding out how much is too much at a devastating price. It illustrates the tunnel vision people have when they become passionate about something, for better or in this case, for worse. How Bad Can I Be? definitely touches on a big topic-- how the offending company or person will make excuse after excuse to justify their wrongdoing, but again, Biggering also does this AND it does it in a way that's evident from the first time you hear it. In order to understand that theme in How Bad Can I Be? you need to really read into it, because the song is so upbeat sounding it's hard to catch it. The music takes away from the lyrics. Speaking of lyrics, the lyrics in Biggering hold a much deeper meaning. I'm getting sick of typing this tbh and ik I'm rambling, so I'll make this quick. Just to provide an example, the lyric in Biggering "who cares if some THINGS are dying" vs "who cares if some TREES are dying" in How Bad Can I Be? is so much more meaningful. It implies that more than just trees are dying. Animals, trees, and people are dying because of the decisions made. But y'know, taking away that ambiguity again, just this time in a song would make Illumination look hypocritical and stupid, so it got scrapped. TL;DR: faceless Onceler was better because he was ambiguous and scary which was the original purpose of his character, and How Bad Can I Be? was a horrible replacement for Biggering because the meaning gets watered down and sugarcoated a lot in How Bad Can I Be? thanks for reading my adhd rant

@duck-cc4qu

Жыл бұрын

@@yer-mum didnt as- ok.

@yer-mum

Жыл бұрын

@@duck-cc4qu free speech, dude. if you don’t care for it, don’t acknowledge it. it’s here for those who are interested and also, i general, because i wanted to. i didn’t write it for you

@SH4RP_CH3SEE

Жыл бұрын

@@duck-cc4qu nobody asked you to type that comment but ok…

@duck-cc4qu

Жыл бұрын

@@yer-mum i was making a joke writing that because I didn't know what to write in response, but as a human I wanted to write something. I really think its interesting tbh, but ok

2:18 2:36 3:46 3:53 Honestly these frames scare me. The faces of Onceler and the Lorax are so dark and macabre revealing Onceler's frightening and monstrous look, while the Lorax's face is brutal and honest, keeping his eyes fixed with honesty and brutality looking directly at Onceler He doesn't get scared, sad or anything like that, he gets pretty rough because of Onceler's uncontrollable and never-ending corporate and greedy destructive actions.4:09 in this section Lorax really gets scared knowing that onceler will NEVER stop and the increasingly insane and scary and cruel situation of onceler 4:26 wow ok this frame is bizarre and scary it just shows how sadistic he is knowing that SOME THINGS are dying but he doesn't give a shit just caring about his fame glory power wealth and unbridled profits. throughout the storyboard, onceler has a high seriousness and apathy, showing no regret or remorse with what happens around him a real monster.

@estrella-om7tu

6 ай бұрын

that's what the characters should have been, the lorax being firm and serious trying to stop the onceler with his words of pride and greed, while the onceler should have been the greedy and greedy man who knew what he was doing but never cared. What's more, he enjoyed what he was doing, appearing serious and apathetic without showing a trace of remorse with a song that demonstrated that, it's a shame we got the opposite.

Honestly the writers act as if they had to choose between this and HBCIB, but like, do they not understand what an amazing reprise to HBCIB this could have been?

@louche2388

8 жыл бұрын

You make it sound as if they came out and discussed their reasons for changing things. They didn't. The director vaguely alluded to this song on the commentary, that's it.

@jodgee2374

8 жыл бұрын

I listened to the commentary. It sounded like they wanted the movie to have a more "ironic" tone so it could be light-hearted and fun.

@louche2388

8 жыл бұрын

Jodgee The Lorax was never lighthearted or fun, though. That's just inappropriate.

@jodgee2374

8 жыл бұрын

No Face but we've GOT to have MONEY!!!!

@louche2388

8 жыл бұрын

Jodgee topical, I like it

The idea that this song is "too dark for kids" is absolute bullshit. If people look back at The Hunchback of Notre Dame and the song Hellfire with nostalgia, with people still talking about how great that song is... Yeah, no, Illumination had no excuse to cut this. Kids can handle way more than what you think, and corporations need to stop treating them like idiots.

@Charely1925

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! I think it has less to do with kids handling darker themes and more that they can handle deeper honesty. It's not dark for dark's sake, the song is dark because it holds truth. Multi-million dollar corporations don't just accidentally destroy their means of production. Good wood companies strictly measure how much they harvest and make sure to re-place what they cut down. Big corp's never start with evil intentions, but every corp is fully capable of intense evil. Pride is the source of all evil, that's why greed is stated to be like a pet. Greed can do nothing if we don't feed it. But the moment we start indulging in more than we need, it makes us want more until it drives us to be consciously insane, doing what we KNOW is wrong. Hellfire and Biggering not only cover dark themes, they cover the human condition which every one of us struggle with. A bit much, I know, but that's my thoughts on that.

@jackdavenport5011

2 жыл бұрын

Illumination is just so fixated on making bare-bones, digestible movies that are as inoffensive as possible, that's why they watered down the movie's dark themes so much (along with, you know, being exactly like the corporations the movie would have been calling out).

@fueledbycandy5920

2 жыл бұрын

And children no longer can or want to be oblivious to this sort of thing. As a 12 year old, I wish I knew more about climate change and this song would have been great for 7 year old me to hear, even if it stung. Its supposed to sting, its fucking climate change

@josharmstrong8813

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's absolutely true it may just be the fact that I was born in 2001 but I watched a fairly large amount of dark things and I'm not a completely maniac Watership Down, a Mouse's tail, lion king and many others I can't think of right now Basically I watched quite a few things that were either dark or had dark parts in them

@BsicalyLucifer

2 жыл бұрын

their hand was kinda forced though

It's funny how 5 minutes of scene, just a single song, could make the film 10000x more impactful and in line with the Lorax creation proposal.

I'd kill for a fully-made version of the original idea they had for the movie Like i wanna see this actually evil Once-ler fully realized

@estrella-om7tu

3 ай бұрын

The original idea was better and closer to the book, but Illumination ruined a possible good movie and a good adaptation

Illumination: Oh no, this song is too dark and scary for younger audiences, we can't use this 😭😭😭 Me, as a 6 year old, watching Scar being eaten alive by hyenas and being engulfed by fire and Frollo singing about wanting to abuse a woman at all costs: This is fine

@RandomRakkoon

3 жыл бұрын

Me, as a 5 year old playing Call of Duty transit, I mean what do companies think kids are nowadays, crybabies who crawl into a corner when faced with reality, this is based off a kids book, that was even darker than the movie. Thank you for coming to my short ted talk

@aniya2633

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve noticed that in recent years pretty much all kids content has been dumbed down by a thousand percent. Like I’m only 16, but the stuff I remember watching is sooo much different from the stuff that my 2 year old brother watches now. It’s sad really. I mean, take youtube kids for instance.

@foxinabox5103

3 жыл бұрын

@@aniya2633 i dont want to look like some sort of "boomer" here, but child's entertainment has been watered down and tamed out very much nowadays. I dont need to explain why, but it gave a really different vibe. Its like u cant even have a grim or disturbing (even a little) scene with it anymore. One of the ex example, Something like the lion king, and the new remade gave different vibe. One has a rather grim feel in some scene (i dont need to point out which one), while the new remade that i watch in disney channel (out of curiosity) had the vibe of "life is cheery and perfect, there's nothing bad happening around us" Now everything is child proofed, like every cartoon should be happy and cannot contain any kind of mildly unsettling scene.

@aniya2633

3 жыл бұрын

@@foxinabox5103 Yeah I agree, that’s what I was saying

@foxinabox5103

3 жыл бұрын

@@aniya2633 oh yeah, im really sorry if im just restating what u just said.

Holy shit, that elevator scene was absolutely perfect.

@bananabird1844

3 жыл бұрын

it was, 4 year old comment.

@ackewtful.

3 жыл бұрын

@@bananabird1844 i see many people are coming back to this

@happykaeya

3 жыл бұрын

@@ackewtful. same

@mega6662

3 жыл бұрын

Minister ZazBog 4 years old comment*

@bananabird1844

3 жыл бұрын

Mega 666 new thanks for reminding me.

A song that conveys greed better than “how bad can I be” being scrapped because illumination got greedy is very ironic

I think that the oncler was meant to be a much more nuanced vilian than many here make it out to be. His family, his closest people, dismised what he was doing and told him to go make something of himself, and so he went. He found a nice little place to settle. One day, he had the idea of knitting something out of the truffula trees. He did and was happy with the product, so he went to show it in town, but no one appreciated it. They did not appreciate his product, and to him, that meant that they did not appreciate what he was doing and, in turn, did not appreciate him. But that suddenly changed as they figured out how amazing his thneeds were. You see, normally greed has nothing to do with pride. Anyone can be greedy, prideful, or not. The Oncler is a bit different. His self-worth directly correlates to how people value what he is doing. He is proud of what he has become, proud of what people see him as, proud of his image. But he has to keep taking actions that please the people to uphold this image. That's why he is much more of a showman than a businessman. This is also reflected in the outfit. He is not greedy for money. He would not have built up thneedvile if he was. The people were already buying everything he threw out. He did not have to make them a brand new city. He was greedy for the approval of others. All other greed was a means to an end to fulfill his greed for approval and, in a sense, pride. You can see in the song when he uncovers the picture, how he hesitates. Then the lorax appears. A manifestation of his conscious, I would say. But he does not want to listen and is running away. We can see in the hallway how the shadow of the lorax is coming out of himself without the creature being there. It suggests that the lorax is really part of him and that it is his conscious. It is lecturing him about his problems, that he is joust meaninglesly trying to fulfill himself in a self-destructive way. The next part is him trying to reason away his consciousness. He seems ashamed of himself when he again sees the picture. He wants to give his hand to the lorax to his conscious, saying that what he is doing is not wrong, but it won't accept. He again seems to doubt what he is doing, but the people around him are chering. That's when it happens when he learns that It does not matter what some think of his actions when he should have learned that nearly everyone's opinion does not matter. He goes to pull the lever as his conscious watches in horror. This pull is a metaphor for his significant change. He is standing there as if he's saying "look the people are loving me, I'm the star, the main character, so who cares if some things are dying?" He certainly no longer does. The lorax and whit that his consciousness is gone. Don't come crying to me it will no longer change anything. He was blinded in the end by his pride. He never thought about sustainability he never looked outside of thneedvile. Only his workers did. He was aware that some things were dying, but not that everything was dying. The some in "who cares that some things are dying" implies that he is not at a point where he no longer cares if everything is dying. But in the end, he saw how the last tree was about to fall, and his conscious returned to his side. He suddenly realized the extent if what he had actually done in his pride induced stupor. But it was too late he could only watch now. He would have long diversified his business if it was about money and probably even begun to drive up prices to produce less and let it regenerate when the resource was getting scarce, but it was never about money. You see, the bosses of company's dont care about the resources because that not going to be a problem before they resign. And they could joust change to somewhere else to feed their greed if it was. Or sell the business and buy or start a new one. But anyone greedy in the onclers position would try his best to preserve the resource at least till he found a new market of equal value. The oncler can't joust change companies. There is not a single one that could pay him close to what he is making, which means that he can also not joust ignore the destruction of the resource if it was about money. It is certainly still a story about the consequences of unchecked resource use. As such, it's also about corporate greed, but I believe that the oncler was imagined as a more nuanced villain than joust bad greedy business owner. And of course, certainly not as the "uppps it seems that I deleted the forest" guy

@deniella8753

8 ай бұрын

I totally agree with this and I love all of your reasons about the song,movie, and overall character development of the onceler and the other characters such as the people. Also, I really liked the idea/truth that the onceler is trying to uphold his own image rather than being that money hungry because of the city he built. All in all I think that the oncelers family negatively influenced him which ended him to where he was at the end of the movie, but great comment! 💖💖😊👍👍

@estrella-om7tu

8 ай бұрын

Apparently they were going to give it more development and with more nuances, not like the type of "uppps it seems that I erased the forest" and that I didn't know what I was doing