I always like the "but witnesses never completely agree" defence. It tends to ignore that one gospel author states they weren't a witness, and ignores that actual witness statements are questionable if they deviate in important details relating to the claimed event. Also witnesses have to be verified. Claiming that something is a witness statement doesn't make it one anymore than claiming you have witnesses means they exist.

Christians love pointing out things in the Bible that appear to be contradictory at the surface really aren’t when you dive into the subject. But when you dive into the subject and point out ALL the contradictory things, they get REAL quiet. 🦗🦗🦗 It's like how quiet they get as soon as you call their false bluster and challenge to discuss their points on a live stream...

@Jebus_Anti-theist

28 күн бұрын

So true. Some of the contradictions bear more weight than others. The contradictions in the gospels are among the weaker ones, because apologists can easily deflect them. The better contradictions are the ones that contradict reality. The genesis account is chock full of strong contradictions. Many of the scriptures concerning Jesus are contradictory to the claim that he was without sin or was a bastion of good morality. Same with the gh0d. Sometimes, the xtian book is contradictory to the nature of the believer. Like, when I first learned that WwLib was a women, and I kept bringing up examples of misogyny from the xtian book until she finally blew up and asserted that she did not care, and hand-waved away the examples as it was part of the "culture" of those times. She doesn't care unless it affects her personally. And then, she'll bring up the Good Samaritan without a hint of irony on her part. The SAB (Skeptic's Annotated Bible) is an excellent reference tool that points out many contradictions. Even better, it points out common apologist's rebuttal to every contradiction. These rebuttals are often times humorous in their ridiculousness. There is an online SAB that is free to use, and easy to use. Within the website are also an annotated Qu'oran and Book of -Moron- Mormon.

There's only one good reason why the story keeps changing. Just like in court with the defendant. It changes, bc It's not true.

@quecee

28 күн бұрын

Or as Christians would say, the story changing is proof that it's real eye witness accounts. So it's true whether it's consistent or inconsistent, apparently.

@rodseller9936

21 күн бұрын

Aren't you glad it's not true. I just wish my father would see it.

I wonder how christians will react once they realize all their bible stories are stolen from other, older myths. Noah's Flood is a copy of Gilgamesh's Flood, the story of Moses is a rip-off of Sargon of Akkad. Hell is stolen from Tartarus from Greek Myth, with the Norse name Hel placed on top of it. The Angels are just taken from the Valkyries. And Jesus is just another Demigod rip-off which almost all myths have. Nothing in the bible is original and pretty much the entire christianity is a rip-off of older mythologies, meaning of all of them, christianity is the least likely to be true. Besides, my true God, Odin, Creator of the world and mankind, is waiting for me in Valhalla.

@martingrey2231

28 күн бұрын

They will tell you that they all borrowed from The Bible. Religion is a form of mental illness.

@martingrey2231

28 күн бұрын

And actually, Angel's are borrowed from the winged Nike. Before they were physically described, they were actually the actually the planets. Then, they were called The Disposers. They became messengers of God after they were worshipped as gods.

@quecee

28 күн бұрын

@@martingrey2231 The concept of angels originated in the Old Testament, which were in turn influenced by various ancient Near Eastern cultures, including Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Canaanite, and Persian traditions. I don't think it's accurate to say that angels were borrowed from Nike. Angels are generally considered to be messengers, as you said, and Nike was not a messenger.

@t800fantasm2

28 күн бұрын

@@quecee "The concept of angels" Is simply a reflection of things like the Greek "Harpies". The Nordic "Valkyries", and similar in other religions....

@quecee

28 күн бұрын

@@t800fantasm2 It started much earlier in the old Testament, borrowing from many of the near eastern angel concepts around at the time.

And tonight's Word Salad Hat-Trick award goes to Richard Leland Levine III, for these three gems (which he maintains make sense): - "Life came into existence without creation without God" - "I have the define meaning" - "Atheism is a lack of disbelief in gods" 👏🥳🏆

@quecee

28 күн бұрын

Interesting. But I'm pretty sure that I lack the lack of disbelief in gods. So is the substitute teacher going to call me an A-a-theist, like calling to find out if A-a-ron is in attendance? Right? De-Nice?

@SundaeExpress

28 күн бұрын

@@quecee " I'm pretty sure that I lack the lack of disbelief in gods." Indeed and I told him that if anything, he's said the complete opposite of what he wanted to say 🤣

@quecee

28 күн бұрын

If anyone is wondering what I'm talking about, look for Mr. Garvey substitute teacher.

@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr

28 күн бұрын

@@quecee Googling it now...

@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr

28 күн бұрын

@@SundaeExpress Right! 😆

Google Wikipedia Synoptic Gospels. It will show you Matthew and Luke COPIED from Mark. Matthew COPIED from Luke. Luke COPIED from Matthew. The "independent" writers just happen to WHOLESALE COPY from each other. LOLZ

The thing about three of the gospels saying that the stone was already rolled away when the women arrived, but Matthew says it wasn't rolled away until after they got there is a contradiction so glaring I don't even hear apologists attempt to explain it. They know there's no way around it. As far as two of the gospels saying there were two beings inside the tomb, and the other two gospels saying there was only one, I've heard Norm Geisler try to explain it away by saying that the two gospels that said there was one didn't say there was ONLY one, so there could've been two. The obvious problem with that explanation is that you would have two of the gospel writers saying there was one of something when in fact there were two, so they would be giving inaccurate information at best and outright lying at worst. But either way that means they can't be trusted because what they're saying is not actually true. If there were actually two, why did they say there was only one?

There are certainly enough internal inconsistencies as well as inconsistencies with kniwn facts to ensure that the notion that the Bible is inerrant on the facts cannot reasonably be argued. Unfortunately, there are plenty of people who can be quite unreasonable.

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Why are you letting yourselves to be drawn into a fictional story. You may as well be talking about the hobbit or gone with the wind as if they are true events. Why are you being drawn into being focused on one religion.

@Lupinemancer87

28 күн бұрын

At least Hobbits are more likely to be true.

@quentind1924

28 күн бұрын

Because turns out a majority of americans believe it to be true. And that's a problem

@martingrey2231

28 күн бұрын

Because the Muslims would have physically attacked the studio.

@Jebus_Anti-theist

28 күн бұрын

When people start using the hobbit or gone with the wind to justify heinous crimes against Humanity, I'll talk about them too. As that is not the case, I remain unconvinced of your argument.

First! :)

@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr

28 күн бұрын

Speech!

@t800fantasm2

28 күн бұрын

Happy Firsties!

@diogeneslamp8004

28 күн бұрын

@@RickLambert963 The ADA accommodates special rights for those who are firsties!

@SundaeExpress

28 күн бұрын

@@t800fantasm2 Danke sehr 🤗

@SundaeExpress

28 күн бұрын

@@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr Well... I'd just like to thank Quecee, Fantasm, Holger, Ook, Jon Clark, Beacon, my family, Jesus...

Repent. Believe in Jesus Christ for salvation and become a new person in this life. John 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Matthew 4:17 KJV From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. 2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr

28 күн бұрын

Does your post apply to those of us who've been told by your fellow Christians who post here that we're not eligible for Heaven and are destined for Hell?

@albertgeddis7308

28 күн бұрын

everlasting life seems overrated, personally i'd never get anything done

@hailsagan8886

28 күн бұрын

How do you feel about Jesus drowning all the babies during the flood?

@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr

28 күн бұрын

@@albertgeddis7308 I don't think I'd cope with the harp recitals, tbh 🎼

@hailsagan8886

28 күн бұрын

Sorry,I don't read science fiction

Atheism is fatal to reason, but easier than thinking.

@amtlpaul

28 күн бұрын

Spamming zombie posts that have been repeatedly debunked just in order to play the troll is unreasonable, but certainly easier than thinking!

@Lupinemancer87

28 күн бұрын

I think you got it the other way around, Atheism is the result of reasonable thinking which is fatal to theism.

@SundaeExpress

28 күн бұрын

Aww, poor wittle Edith is still upset that nobody loves her 😢

@sideboob6851

28 күн бұрын

Cause believing in stories of talking donkeys and a man losing his strength after having his hair cut off takes a lot of thought, right Edith?

@amtlpaul

28 күн бұрын

​@sideboob6851, you know Edith never defends the Bible! Edith only knows how to deflect from difficult issues by attacking those who raise them!