4 years ago, would have expected that update by now!

I put the 4 hole injectors in my '98 XJ 4.0. They are just amazing. The XJ runs smoother, starts quicker and I am definitely getting better millage. I used to get about 170 miles from a tank of gas, now I am get like 230miles from a tank! Very nice

@marleonetti7

Жыл бұрын

smaller injector holes clog easier so your car may run better for the first few weeks or few months but after that the injector with the small holes may clog and u will have problems all over again . i just bought a replacement injector with 4 tiny holes that can barely be seen unless u use a magnifying glass and i am not gonna install it but i am gonna exchange it for an injector with a larger single hole to insure no clogging for many years .

@harvestblades

Жыл бұрын

I was just thinking about that if you are tossing them in a 20 plus year old fuel system & tank full of gunk!

@harvestblades

Жыл бұрын

Which ones did you toss in? I see another channel has fake 4 hole injectors from ebay that look just like these yellow ones? How is it running ad I am concerned about the new injectors with smaller ports getting clogged due to a dirty old fuel system. I'm really curious and bet simply cleaning or tossing in OEM single port would still make a noticeable dufferents vs the crudy 20 year old injectors.

@marleonetti7

Жыл бұрын

well i just installed a simple one hole injector and it is doing the same thing your 4 hole injector is doing . the reason your injector is making the car run better is simply because it is new . i stuck with the one hole injector because that is what was originally used on my vehicle and my advice is to stick with the type injector and number of holes your vehicle was designed for .

I've seen like a dozen of these injector upgrade video's and no one has done an MPG update like they say in the video.

I port matched my intake manifold with a Felcro gasket and installed a set of 4 hole injectors and experienced excellent throttle response and increased power.

I ran the 4 hole on my 99 XJ Cherokee and there was a very noticeable power gain at low and mid range power. MPG seems to be the same. I do have a header on my 4.0L which benefits as well.

One of the best mods I have ever done on my 91 4 cyl wrangler. Runs smoother, better power and 15 miles to the gallon. All good.

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

Very cool! We'll see how mine does. So far, starts fine.

@consaka1

4 жыл бұрын

What was your mileage before?

@StarkReality

4 жыл бұрын

4x4Scout I was down in the 13 range.

@haydendobsch8314

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeepSolid mine starts bad idk why its a 2004 wj 4.0

I swapped my injectors to 4 hole ones from a Dodge Neon. My smoother startup is likely because the 4 hole injectors were clean. The one hole injectors spray into the back of the valve so when the engine heats up, the nebulization should be fine even though it's one stream. Cold starts may be better off with the 4 holes. The flow volume of the 4 hole injectors were close enough to the stock ones such that the ecu can trim to what it needs. My 2000 XJ 4.0L with the A4 transmission gets 22mpg on the highway if I go 65mph. It's stock build with 130k miles.

Ive seen a video of dyno results going from stock injectors, to 4 hole, to 12 hole on the jeep 4.0, The 4 hole gave the biggest overall hp improvement, the 12 hole gave just a little less hp compared to the 4 hole, however the 12 hole added more torque than the 4 hole. With that being said, the stock injectors had atleast 150k on them (i forget the mileage, it was a jeep XJ), after the 1st dyno w/ stock injectors, he swapped in the 4 hole and did another dyno run, then swapped in the 12 hole and did the dyno run. The ECU and adaptive memory did not have any time to learn the optimal characteristics on how to go about controlling the new injectors. With my experience, the 4.0 needs to do a few complete drive cycles to get the overall best mpg and performance. When I first installed my 4 hole injectors roughly 8 or 9 years ago, first test run i noticed a smoother idle, much quicker pedal response, and quicker pickup off the line, however just about the same fuel mileage (leaning in the direction of a tad more fuel being used per tank, but not much). After a month of having them in, i checked again, and thats when i seen the big increase per tank. I forget the exact numbers as this was almost 10 years ago, however i know i get a minimum 400 miles per tank at a 50/50 split of city and highway/backroad driving. When i did the tests, it was mainly highway and backroad driving to work and back ever day, somewhere around 45miles/45minutes 1 way with less than 10min city driving. 2003 4.0 WJ, K&N FIPK, Bored Throttle Body, 4 Hole Injectors, Doug Throley Headers, Hi Flow Down Pipe w/ Pre-Cats, 2.5" Exhaust, FlowMaster 70, 3" IRO Lift, Stillen Brake Pads w/Drilled Rotors, Superchips Tuner, 32" DuraTrac's, 3.73 Vari-Lok Axles, NV242HD Selec-Trac Transfer Case. And a few other things. Stock, it was 2WD/RWD when i bought it in 2009. Next plan is to do the stroker rebuild on the motor :)

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

That's great info! Thanks. Super curious to see if I notice any difference with these. So far, it sure starts well now!

@p.j.vallier9197

4 жыл бұрын

@@JeepSolid seeing that you mentioned it starting lol, i installed upgraded cables in the engine bay, noticed a big difference on how quickly it starts. About two years ago i noticed my starter sounded a little week, even with leaving the battery on charge overnight. It would crank for close to 3 seconds before started up. Once i did the power cable upgrade, i noticed a big difference in how quickly it starts, i don't need to have the key in the starter position for more than a second before it fires up. K suspension is who did the video comparison on the injectors if you want to look it up, they also have the cable upgrade you can buy, however its pretty easy to DIY with some thick gauge welding wire, copper lugs, and a fuse block. Definitely something to look into, and if done neat, it makes the engine bay look a little bit better.

@brandonpriest3604

2 жыл бұрын

Dude, thanks for the detailed Info!!!! I'm almost finished with my 02 wrangler build. At 256 k , the motor was still running great. But the bottom end sounded like skeletons having sex. Bahahahaha. But I am going back with 12 whole injectors. Sounds like I may change over to the 4 whole a bit later. But ya, thanks for all your time

@toddrhine7648

2 жыл бұрын

Just curious on where you purchased the 4 hole Injectors. Looking for an honest, reputable place that can sell me good quality Injectors & not China knock offs for my 93 Jeep GC Laredo I6 4.0. Thx so much.

I went with 4 hole injectors on my V8 ZJ. I saw about a half mpg improvement and smoother idle. I really think the mileage boost was more from "new" injectors compare to the original one's with 247k miles on them. I would still recommend the upgrade as if I'm going to replace an item I would rather take the opportunity to do an upgrade.

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, any mpg boost helps.

I'm currently running and have been for the last 6 years on my '93 ZJ. You may also consider the adjustable fuel pressure regulator from Hesco. Better fuel pressure makes those atomize better at a higher psi. Earlier models ran 35-39 psi, but after '96 they went to 49 psi.

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

That's great! Did you see a mpg change?

@zacharyjobe5779

4 жыл бұрын

@@JeepSolid Not much MPG's, power increased though, but with both the injectors and the regulator. Also 4-5 years passed between the time I got the injectors and the aftermarket regulator. And there's been some intermittent electrical trouble.

wanted to see the spray patern like we saw with the single hole injectors you had

Went from stock 1 hole to 12. Startups are way quicker and instant. Idle and general acceleration is much smoother with maybe a mile per gallon increase.

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

Nice! I'm excited to see how these perform.

4 Holer, 6 banger POWER!

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

Haha!! That's the goal!

Did you have these flow balance? Might want to do that, seen these Amazon ones are poorly flow matched.

Cool video bro 👏👏👏👏👏💯😎

Do you have any insights as to why you selected these particular injectors?

I'm caught up into a predicament on which fuel injectors to go with I have both the single and the four hole

did you find out if MPG was better? or did it just make it run smother?

I love watching the videos. Very informative. I'm about to change out my injectors. Are you happy with the 4 hole and would you have done anything differently.

Did you see an improvement with the gas mileage??

Any update on the performance and MPGs after installing 4 hole injectors?

Hello, I have a yj 2.5 4 cilinder from 1991. Do the injectors used in the video fit's for my jeep ? Thanks in advance. All info is welcome. Greetings from Belgium

I went with K suspension for mine

Btw awesome channel 👍👍👍 what are the pros n cons of a spacer for a Throttle body? Have you already done a vid on this question? Pl ty

Any update on the performance of your Jeep with the four hole injectors? I am considering the mod myself. Also, do you think that there would be any advantage with going straight to the 12 hole model?

Hi. I have a 2000 wj 4.0 I just replaced my fuel injectors with a 4 hole from a one hole, now im getting a code po172 and po175 bank 1 and 2 oxygen sensors, system too rich. Would this be normal for the ECM to reset for the new injectors after driving a bit, or is my fuel pressure regulator not adjusting to the new injectors? I replaced my fuel filter 2 years ago. Not sure if its a regulator fuel filter type?? Isn't my regulator on the middle of the fuel rail?? Thanks.

Did you get any boost from the 4 hole?

Do you have a link for these 4 hole injectors for a 2005 Jeep TJ Rocky Mtn 4.0?

I like your videos direct and to the point I have a 91 YJ rotors pads calipers master cylinder lines and I still have a spongy brake pedal any suggestions

Do I have to change the Fuel Pressure Regulator

Hey why haven't you done the 99 intake upgrade

Mine clogged after a week but my rail was a bit dirty lol second time may last longer lol

Did you select a fuel rate equivalent to the one hole? I just put in 4 hole injectors. They are rated a bit more flow at a bit less pressure. It runs fine, but hard starting sometimes. Thanks for the vid.

@josephhouser4598

6 ай бұрын

I have the same issue with mine once I swapped the injectors. Have you found a fix for the issue?

I have 200,000 miles on my oem injectors. Runs great. I use injector cleaner once a month.

Is it ok from two hole to replace with one hole? That's how I got them when I ordered

Did it work or its bad injectors ?

i got a question if I have oem injector 1pin hole @ 243.8cc p/m and swap for 4pin hole 232.1cc p/m, will the 4pin hole spray more fuel than the single pin hole?

What is the part # for a 4.0 cherokee 92

So how come the picture of the Amazon ones you list have clip slots?

Is this the engine you rebuilt? And you should do a longevity review of these after a few months and see if they have clogged up or anything

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. It's on my rebuilt engine.

My results, ran like a dog would actually stall out sometimes. “Cleared” the ecu, my biggest problem is getting the engine warm enough, new fan cleaned out the block really well (lots of hot flushes) and a 185° t stat. I think I’m stuck in closed loop ( or is it open?) not reading off of the 02 sensors. Went back to oem injectors. And they seemed more responsive. I ohm’d all 12 out and old were 14.7 new 15.9 all +\- .1 of an ohm I need to flow test the new ones make sure they spray clean. Ran the new ones 150 miles on a 24 mile loop back and forth on a road didn’t improve. Kinda bummed 🙁. I’ll get supplies to flow test/clean them.

@NoWr2Run

4 жыл бұрын

Where did you buy these injectors ? Yes great idea to flow test them. Dan. Thanks for your input.

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

That's good to know. Thank you! So far these seem to run great!

@NoWr2Run

4 жыл бұрын

Why the 185 degree Thermo. ?

@anubis8680

4 жыл бұрын

@@NoWr2Run I wasn't too confident in the clutch fan and I live in Southern Arizona, 100+ days are fairly common and I use it for technical trails often.

@anubis8680

4 жыл бұрын

@@NoWr2Run Ebay off a place with 2,000 5 star reveiws 94.6 satisfaction rating. Im hoping its a flow/ pump issue. Doing a gas tank "rebuild" now.

did you see an improvement . will it help my 95yj 2.5 how much for a jeep solid garage decal iwant to put it on my 95

@MarkHazen

3 жыл бұрын

4 hole will help. But also look into converting to a smooth bore Throttle Body.

So any benefit to the injectors aftera few years?

Not the belt, just a tensioner pulley. Always turn key to on position and give it 2-3seconds to pressurize your rail. It will start faster evertime. Also, when replacing injectors, pull fuel pump fuse and start and let run until it dies. Shouldn't be much fuel left in rail after that! Don't pull injector fuses! Lol

Been contemplating this upgrade. Sounds like we're going to the same school, Dale. My only question/concern is - wouldn't these smaller holes clog up sooner with varnish build-up than the single-hole injectors? Or does that really matter, in the long run?

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

I haven't heard of that being an issue, but I'll keep you posted

@NoWr2Run

4 жыл бұрын

Injectors usually clog up with debris that gets past the fuel filter, there is also varnish build up. I added an extra inline fuel filter to my Jeep along with the PIA ONE in the tank. I would say NO ( JUST MY OPINION ) that the 4 or 12 hole injectors will not clog up because of the smaller holes. Almost all the ones I've cleaned was either crap in the screen filter inside the injector or the Pintle is not working, dead injector. I also run cleaner in my fuel tank & buy the best gas I can. I have to run 89 Octane in my 97 4.0 ZJ or it has bad performance & terrible fuel mileage. Any higher Octane gas & I see NO DIFFERENCE ? I'll probably switch to the 12 hole injectors ?

@TheBandit7613

4 жыл бұрын

www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/engine/154-0911-jeep-4-liter-engine-myth-busting-true-lies/ Waste of time and money.

@threadready8078

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBandit7613 No mention of fuel injectors in the article.

smaller injector holes clog easier so your car may run better for the first few weeks or few months but after that the injector with the small holes may clog and u will have problems all over again . i just bought a replacement injector with 4 tiny holes that can barely be seen unless u use a magnifying glass and i am not gonna install it but i am gonna exchange it for an injector with a larger single hole to insure no clogging for many years .

Did you get the 20% fuel economy boost?

Have you done a updated video yet??????

I know I'm returning to an old video, but I replaced my 94 yj with 4holes, but now it will crank with no start up. Right after I replaced them it would fire up, after turning it off and leaving it, it won't now. Any ideas?

@JeepSolid

3 жыл бұрын

humm.... everything hooked back up? wires to injectors didn't get mixed up?

@basshunter428

2 жыл бұрын

Have the same issue. Did you solve your's and if so how, please?

The problem with aluminum rails they oxide. If you use a fine wire bottle brush. Chuck it up in a very slow drill motor and buff out the injector holes in the fuel rail. A little spit on the o-ring and they slide in with ease.

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

Mine sure were tight! I didn't see any oxidization, but perhaps they were a bit.

@revolutionday1

3 жыл бұрын

"Spit"............or y'know.....silicone lubricant. SMDH

@gordongman3423

3 жыл бұрын

@@revolutionday1 Spit is cheaper.. LOL

Can you post the link where you got these please 4 hole injectors

@JeepSolid

3 жыл бұрын

The link is in the description of the video. You may have to expand it to see the link 👍🏽

Wondering if you can give an update? I am very cautious when purchasing some items on Amazon (unless is name brand) and injectors would be one of those items especially since I know a well known or reliable injector is much pricier than these. Did they perform well and are you still using them or have to replace them? I read reviews and saw that many people had issues with them so wanted to ask how they performed and get your overall opinion.

Careful with ebay and Amazon new injectors they could be cheap knock offs that actually sometimes make your engine run worst i know from experience. I ended up buying my reman ones from rock auto. I ordered them for a 2001 volvo c70 2.4l turbocharger. They fit the jeep 4.0 and they are ev1 connectors with 4 holes and same flow rating as oem ones.

@bryandean5563

3 жыл бұрын

Do you have a link to these? What did they cost you? How are they working?

What's the name of lubricant? Is it ok WD or Vaseline?

Is there a range of quality and or performance in these injectors made by different manufacturers. If so, which is best? I have 2 YJ s and an 05, all six cyl. Can anyone please advise…..thanks

Hello, I wanted to enter the link to buy the injectors and it does not work, you can support me with the description or the link, thank you very much, excellent video

Hello, I made the 4 holes injector upgrade and the performance change its awesome, is there anything more that can be done to improve the ride performance or engine performance?, what you think about the throttle body spacer?

@gambiando

Жыл бұрын

Get rid of your cat

Atomized!

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

It's amazing! Ha

What kind of lubricant for the injectors?

@colin5064

Жыл бұрын

Petroleum jelly NOT silicone grease could damage the oxy sensor in the exhaust

Did this 4 months ago and the jeep does start quicker and runs smoother but did not see mpg gains , also noticed top speed increase (98 tj sport )

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

Wow! Awesome. Gotta test run mine some more

How did these injectors end up doing? Im skeptical about ordering due to the mixed reviews.

@JeepSolid

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't had any issues with them. Seem to work fine

@acokedupmonkey3762

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeepSolid thank you for the response.

@mtndewman1022

3 жыл бұрын

@@JeepSolid Did you see the 20% mpg improvement?

@looptrack0

Жыл бұрын

@@JeepSolid Did you see an MPG improvement?

Do you suggest the fuel injectors you have in the subscription or should i get something more reliable? How have they worked for you is a netter question?

@JeepSolid

2 ай бұрын

They seem to be working great! Can’t say any more fuel efficient, but runs well

I just now discover this. I have over 750k miles on my 94. That’s right, 750k. I bet I could use new ones.

You are not going to see a significant increase in gas mileage. The engine will idle and run smoother. New injectors are a great idea anyways if they are the originals. Keep in mind that the only filter in line on most models is on the intake inside the tank. If you question your fuel at all an inline filter is probably a great idea especially going to a smaller hole on the injectors. My 99 XJ with Pacesetter header & 2.5" exhaust (no crush point behind the manifold) and 4 hole Mustang injectors now pulls strong from 60 to 90mph and easily spins the tires (255/55/18) from a start.

@cousin_JACK

Жыл бұрын

Where is best to place for the filter to avoid pressure issues

Ummmmm Dale.... I believe you were supposed to remove the lil white plastic rings that were on the outlet 4 hole side...I'm pretty sure they are just there to hold the o-rings in place during shipping... I'm actually doing mine tomorrow with those same type. I tried to do mine a few weeks ago, had it all the new ones in the rail and went to insert them onto the ports...and they didn't fit. Turned out they sent me the wrong part number. I had to reinstall my old ones, after cleaning them up a bit... They resent me the same as you now, the right part number now. I've already removed my white rings. Just used a pair of needle nose pliers to pop them off... I'll update ya about the removal of those white plastic rings... Please, please, please check for leaks around the mating surface between the injector and the head... I'd really hate for all your work to go up in flames my friend...

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

They came with plastic covers over them that I removed.

@Flyby-1000

4 жыл бұрын

Huh... mine didn't come with a cover over the injector nozzles, just that nylon plastic ring that looks like it's holding the o-ring in place for shipping. The old injectors don't have anything between the o-ring and the o-ring seat in the intake manifold. I guess if it's not leaking...then it's not leaking...but are those nylon rings going to stand up to the heat?!?! I was supposed to do mine yesterday, but good ol' home ownership tasks got in the way....had to prioritize... Just did mine this morning. Had them done in about 40 mins... Easy peasy..... Purrs like a kitten.... Installed without the rings, I kept the rings though just in case...

@huntermccoy8574

4 жыл бұрын

@@Flyby-1000 I just got some 4 hole injectors as well and I now wonder if, like you, if the plastic ring that seems like it's holding the oring on needs to come off 😬

Did you ever have problems with these? Did your fuel economy improve?

Always lube before inserting in tight place, don't want to tear an "O" ring😉

I just put 12 hole injectors in my WJ I can’t tell the difference from the 4 hole injectors

@NoWr2Run

4 жыл бұрын

NO KIDDING ? I was going to put 12 hole ones in my 97 ZJ 4.0. Maybe I'll do some more research. THANKS., TREVOR. OH, What engine do you have in your WJ ?.

@trevorthomas6043

4 жыл бұрын

I have a 99 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 supercharged.keep up the good work.

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

I'm curious to see if I see and fuel mileage change..

@martymcfly3825

4 жыл бұрын

Ive had the 12 hole in my wj for 2 years. My fuel mileage went from 12.5mpg to 16mpg , but that could have just been just replacing dirty, worn out injectors. I do feel that it starts better and idles smoother.

@NoWr2Run

4 жыл бұрын

OUCH, How's the fuel mileage ? I hear it drops it pretty bad ?

Someday I will see if this most improves gas mileage. I don't have a Dyno.

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Super curious if it helps!

@xmo552

4 жыл бұрын

Taz It's not what you were talking about, but it may interest you some. Jeep 4.0L Myth Busting - True Lies www.fourwheeler.com/how-to/engine/154-0911-jeep-4-liter-engine-myth-busting-true-lies/

👍🇺🇸

I forgot to add new shoes and spring kits in the rear and wheel cyl

I upgraded to 4 hole on my f150 and check engine light won’t turn off

@dirkhodge4325

3 жыл бұрын

well, it is a ford

@ironman3743

3 жыл бұрын

Dirk Hodge have you ever seen a f-150 with 400.000 miles? yeah I didn’t think so.

@coler154

3 жыл бұрын

@@ironman3743 I have a 1986 Ford E-150 van that has over 400,000 miles

@ironman3743

3 жыл бұрын

@@coler154 yeah great cars but people don’t appreciate em!!

Great fuel injection swap out but why didn't you show the fuel injectors after you started it up they could be leaking? Also you should have shown the inside of the fuel rail there could be a lot of corrosion and rust in there that might need to be cleaned.

Help please, I'm a military vet and looking for a reputable place online that sells quality, non China knock offs, dynamically tested (besides matched based on peak flow alone) 4 hole Injectors for my 93 Jeep GC Laredo I6 4.0. It would be so appreciated if anyone could help me in this manner. Thx all.

Six Jeep injectors $60. Six Cummins 6.7 injectors $2200. Out looking for a jeep!

That did not work for my jeep 2001 had to put back the olds ones it was berning gas like hell and dont now y

Better I don't know most time injectors removed are used maybe dirty " restricted" new is definitely better though my 2 cents

Shouldn't title be 4 hole vs 1 hole?

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

Haha! Yep. Thx. Fixed it. Apparently I can't count. Lol 😂

@leskobrandon538

4 жыл бұрын

@@JeepSolid I thought I was missing a hole

Wait where is Project Fungus going??

@NoWr2Run

4 жыл бұрын

He is selling it.

@LeeroyJebkins

4 жыл бұрын

nowr2run dang 😔

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

So SAD :( Going to be selling soon...

@LeeroyJebkins

4 жыл бұрын

JeepSolid well I can’t say I’m thrilled but nonetheless, still love the channel!

Hi, Dale! So the question everybody seem so curious to get answered - did it help improve your MPG?

@JeepSolid

3 жыл бұрын

Runs great, but haven't run multiple tanks through yet. Its currently in the shop with a leaf spring off

my result: more smooth, MORE throttle, +~40 km milegage 2004 Wrangler TJ Sahara Unlimited, GCC specs, Dubai. I was afraid to try 4holes. buy bought on ebay set of 6 BOSCH 4 holes injectors. Ill like to say that You should reset computer before engine start. result: more smooth, MORE throttle, +~40 km milegage

@NoWr2Run

4 жыл бұрын

There was NO BATTERY in his Jeep, so his computer will adjust as he drives it.

@JeepSolid

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Good to know

Most of your single hole injectors actually spray a cone shaped pattern…

@marleonetti7

Жыл бұрын

single hole injectors are better because they are much bigger holes than the very small 4 hole holes which can easily clog in a short time because they are so tiny .

Update? I hear Amazon injectors are crap

Dyno or bust. Won't make a difference.

@acokedupmonkey3762

3 жыл бұрын

Its not for power, its for better atomization therefore better idle and smoother acceleration.

..... My smog test will be due in a couple of months in California... I've got an '88 Comanche, manual, 4.0 ... Any idea if the four hole injectors will affect the smog either way... + / -- ? ... Presently one injector is weeping a bit... So, I figured it's time to replace them all... And not just a new O-rings on the weeping one..... 🤔 ... 🧐 ... 😵‍💫 ... 🇺🇸 .....

Did it improve the fuel economy?

So did it increase you MPG by 20%? Did you check?