Excellent comparison well done and straight to the point.

@gix40

3 жыл бұрын

@Luke Anderson watch what?

Everyone defaults to speed but I highly suggest you look at useful load as well, in this case the TTX falls FAR short. The TTX has a total useful load of 1070, fill it with fuel and you are left with a useful load of 458 pounds, or two adults and bags. The SR-22 has an total useful load of 1250, fill it with fuel and you are are left with a useful load of 698 pounds. It is even more pronounced when you calculate four adults and bags for a trip. For the TTx take four adults - 4 X 170 + 4 X 30 (bags) and you are at 800 pounds leaving 270 for gas (45 gallons). For the SR-22 - 4 X 170 + 4 X 30 (bags) and you are at 800 pounds leaving 450 pounds for gas (75 gallons). The SR-22 can one hop 600 miles while the TTx will be looking for gas right after takeoff.

@speedomars

3 жыл бұрын

The TTx is cramped and lacks a chute. It was also far behind in fit and finish and had a higher price tag. Thus it is no longer made.

I made a decision 3 years ago based on safety data. Started with a Columbia 350 to try a for a year then stepped up to a 2008 Cessna 400 (Best year, my opinion) and love it! Earned my instrument in this aircraft and working on my Commercial. Very stable and predictable.

Thanks, I want a faster plane for cross country and appreciate the video. It was very helpful

while the cirrus is a sweet plane, that cessna TTX just looks badass and had better avionics, one of my favorite.

@speedomars

3 жыл бұрын

The TTx was last made in 2018 (sold 23 to Cirrus 314 that year). The SR22T is equipped with the Garmin NXi...leaving behind the G1000 that the TTx had.

@anthonycyr9657

3 жыл бұрын

@@speedomars im not sure if you are aware but the ttx had the garmin g2000, superior to any g1000..

@speedomars

3 жыл бұрын

@@anthonycyr9657 The G2000 came out in 2010, it is the G1000 with fewer buttons and a touch FMS panel . The CPUs are the same, the software the same (again, antiquated). The NXi came out in 2018 and gets faster dual-core processors (4x faster), LED back-lit brighter screens, wireless connectivity (uploading flightplans and downloading flight data), reduced power consumption. The NXi also has new software providing advanced visual aids for landing and terrain mapping. All the big boys are installing it including Cessna for the 172/182/206 and Caravan, Beech King Air and Bonanza, Diamond and of course Cirrus.

Comments: 450 hours per year is probably much higher than typical use. The TTX useful load is a significant downside, only partially offset by its higher top speed. The Cirrus parachute really isn’t a big factor in my evaluation. The single I had for 19 years was a Piper Saratoga. It was a 1981 model with retractable gear and turbocharged Lycoming engine. It was not as fast as either of these airplanes but it’s useful load and rear club seating was very attractive. However, it’s definitely the case that Cirrus has blown the market away when it comes to high performance singles. In my opinion, they should consider a pressurized piston single. I’m not a fan of the Vision Jet though, for similar money, there are used light jets and turboprops with much better range and equal or better speed.

I like both, but too much money imo. Opinion is not based on if I have the money. Once in this price range, one must look at Piper Malubu. Awesome vid

@speedomars

3 жыл бұрын

The Piper Malibu is a joke. The Malibu is $300k more than the SR22T and can't fly faster.

if you fly either AC hard, plan of a top overhaul well before 50% of TBO.

@speedomars

3 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? TBO for big Continentals is 2200 hrs. No such thing as running them hard unless you abuse them by running them too rich or lean, and that's a problem for ANY piston engine.

Currently shopping for a Columbia 300 . 190 kts at altitude is good enough for an old retiree like me

Prospective buyers need to know that the Cirrus ballistic parachute requires replacement of the pyrotechnic line cutters every 6 yrs. and replacement of the entire ballistic parachute every 10 yrs. These obligatory costs are far from trivial. Even a remanufactured ballistic parachute costs more than $10,000 without installation.

I still like the C182. You have done a beautiful video.

@marlintheaviator

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the C182 is really nice!

@paulstephens8829

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the C182 handles so well and smooth.

@igotanM16

3 жыл бұрын

182rg for better aerodynamics. 😉

@quidestnunc9238

2 жыл бұрын

As an actual Pilot (rather than a theoretical one) who has time in a r as nge of high -wing, tractor-configuration Cessnas (and low-wing Pipers, I believe being able to where the plane is going as I begin a turn is vital.

I fly both and the TTX is better and it’s not even close... also I have no idea where he got 450,000 average for the TTX... maybe that is average between the 400 and TTX...

@speedomars

3 жыл бұрын

I have also flown both. And own the SR22T. You are not much of a pilot if you can rate the TTx above the SR22T in handling and sophistication.

Where do you get a Cirrus with a 4 bladed prop? They don't offer that on the website.

@gbigsangle3044

3 жыл бұрын

You can add the prop to existing Cirrus planes or order it when buying new from the factory. It's optional.

@spectrepilot

3 жыл бұрын

The four bladed is a composite option that saves a few pounds but shifts the CG aft, exact same performance form either prop.

@speedomars

3 жыл бұрын

The new Harzel 4-blade is an option on the SR22 and SR22T.

The Cessna is also "known ice" that is a big deal from colorado northwards

The parachute in the series has to be replaced every 10 years at the cost of anywhere between 15 to $20,000

The cessna ttx does look like a cirrus sr22 but the plane is better than the sr22

@speedomars

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong. The TTx and the SR2x designs look similar (carbon fiber) but are totally different aircraft. the SR2x line is far superior, and the sales numbers proved it and is why the TTx is no longer made.

@danielmendoza355

3 жыл бұрын

@@speedomars no boi the cessna ttx is way better than the cirrus s42x

@danielmendoza355

2 жыл бұрын

@Lets go U tube you don't tell me what to do ok u stop

@danielmendoza355

2 жыл бұрын

@Lets go U tube I don't have no kite dumbass

@danielmendoza355

2 жыл бұрын

@Lets go U tube ok....lol

Operation cost is way off due to the parachute upkeep that thing is ridiculous when it times out and has to be redone

@justsmy5677

2 жыл бұрын

IMO, if you can afford an SR22 you can afford to get the parachute inspected/repacked/replaced every 10 years. It will raise your annual expense about $1500-2000 per year, correct?

Which is more reliable the Cessna or the Cirrus?

👌👌🇩🇿🇩🇿

I'll still take a Cirrus SR22T anyday

Cirrus SR22T wins for me 🇿🇦

@marlintheaviator

3 жыл бұрын

It’s really nice!

@heavyizthacrown-5842

3 жыл бұрын

The “SR22T wins for me” *because....?*

Cirrus all the way. Cessna feels like a UPS truck with a bad suspension.

Cessna TTX is better

@speedomars

3 жыл бұрын

The TTx is a dead aircraft. Good luck buying a used one.

The TTx is a defunct aircraft and no longer made. The TTx was never equipped with a BRS chute...and the seats are laughably crude. Cessna claimed back in the day the TTx was 10kts faster than the SR22T at max cruise...but that claim was never verified independently. Both planes have the same gross weight of 3600 lbs. and use the same TSIO-550 Continental...the TTx the C version (310hp), the SR22T the K version (315hp). Takeoff distance for the TTx is 1355ft, the SR22T is 850ft. The TTx also requires manual adjustment of the constant speed prop, the Cirrus automates that function. Here is a side-by-side on features: bityl.co/4H03

@ryanryessir

3 жыл бұрын

I would agree with this for the most part. I know someone who owned the Corvialus and said its maintenance costs were sky high (they recently sold it). I think Cirrus definitely kept up with the times and made it more worth it if you are looking for this specific type of aircraft. I would agree a nice used twin with aftermarket glass could be had for the same price as a used TTx and would be a better buy if someone wanted something used.

@christopherhand4836

3 жыл бұрын

If you need a safety chute you should only fly your computer at home

@gunnerjoe53

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherhand4836 Wrong. You can be the worlds greatest pilot and a series of bad events can leave you wishing for a parachute.

@gunnerjoe53

3 жыл бұрын

I always wondered about the glide ratio that TTx claimed, which was almost twice that of Cirrus.

@christopherhand4836

3 жыл бұрын

@@gunnerjoe53 nope that’s for the world’s weakest pilots...

The TTx is a dead aircraft...defunct...gone..kaput..wiped out by the superior SR22T. It lacked a chute and it was CRAMPED. The fit and finish in a TTX is far below Cirrus...And Cessna, in their usual way to lose business, priced it higher than the superior product it went up against.

@rileybullen4961

3 жыл бұрын

I just wish the Cirrus looked as nice, was built as strong (utility category), and could glide as far as the TTX and didn't have sketchy stall characteristics which is why it needed a parachute and is the only way they could get the plane certified. Though, I agree with you that the cirrus is superior. It has a few very important features and specs that make it the best seller.

@gbigsangle3044

3 жыл бұрын

@@rileybullen4961 Cirrus looks better than the TTX...The TTX has that horrific front nose gear that looks like a crutch with a tire on it. And a fin off the bottom of the tail thata breaks the line. TTX also has a boring straight wing tip while the cirrus has an elegant winglet swoop (that also serves to save fuel). You don't need a glide distance when you have a chute...which the TTX also lacks.

@rileybullen4961

3 жыл бұрын

@@gbigsangle3044 Really? Most people I talk to say the ttx is more aesthetically pleasing than the Cirrus, specifically referring to the ugly nose gear on the Cirrus! And glide ratio is more important than you think, especially when you consider the most dangerous part of a flight is right after takeoff. You can’t use the parachute until you’re at least 600 AGL. And then if you stall a Cirrus that low, you’re done. Stability is horrible in the Cirrus. In the ttx you have enough stability and control to roll 30 to 30 degrees while in a stall. And the cockpit is only an inch bigger horizontally and vertically in the cirrus while their seats are the most uncomfortable seats I have ever sat in because of the honeycomb design they use to cushion the impact when using the parachute. But for uneducated pilots the Cirrus is a great plane, honestly!

@gbigsangle3044

3 жыл бұрын

@@rileybullen4961 You must be talking to people who don't own an aircraft or are flying clunky old Cessnas or Pipers.. The Cirrus nose gear is graceful, swooping...the TTX nose gear looks like something that will break the first gutter it rolls over. No one can glide from 500 feet to anywhere except straight ahead. The chute height is dependent on model, the SR20 and SR22 its 400 feet, the SR22T is 600 feet. You get to 600 feet before leaving the end of most runways in the turbo. Either way no aircraft is safe if the engine quits on takeoff. The TTX has no stability in a stalled turn...that is silly. No plane does. The Cirrus seats are the most sophisticated in the industry, leather, made to take 22g forces and designed to rise as you pull them forward for shorter people. It is the sophisticated pilot that owns a Cirrus. You should remember, the TTX FAILED in the marketplace. Two reasons. 1. it lacked a chute and 2. it had an ineffecient wing design and was MORE EXPENSIVE for the same or less plane. You seem unable to discern the subtle issues needed to judge aircraft. There are 8000 piston single Cirrus flying, how many TTX are out there? Less than 100.

@rileybullen4961

3 жыл бұрын

@@gbigsangle3044 you glide nowhere but straight ahead yes, but you’re much less likely to spin from stalling after takeoff in a ttx is the point I was trying to make. Have you ever flown a cirrus? Sat in one? And the wing on either of these aircraft is designed for different purposes. One is not better than the other. I’m just stating things I like about the ttx more than the cirrus. I never said it was overall better than the cirrus. I love the avionics of the cirrus but if the ttx came with the Garmin NXI I would prefer a ttx even without the parachute, personally.