My Grandpa set me straight a while back. He sat me down and showed me some old hymns that used to be commonplace in the Church. He showed the comparison of the message through those lyrics and lyrics in modern worship songs. It was so eye opening and it totally changed my views on the power and impact of worship (good and bad). He passed away in 2020, and I'm so thankful he took the time to help me before he went to be with the Lord.

@Carolina_Berean

Жыл бұрын

I was reading our church hymnal today and thought the same. The difference is a life changing experience.

@thelordsephiroth777

Жыл бұрын

That is because they changed the formula not once but twice since the making of hymns. The new worship and praise brand of worship has no theological requirements

@heavender

Жыл бұрын

Please share those songs if you can. The old ones. 🙏

@davidwagner5583

Жыл бұрын

Don’t worry, there are plenty of bad hymns as well, it’s just that the good ones are the ones that are still around

@pattylaurain6668

Жыл бұрын

That is so beautiful!

I have a friend who went to an Elevation Worship " concert" here. She won the tickets at work. But she said the tickets were nearly $200 and they were selling hoodies for $80 in the lobby. SMH. She added " oh but the worship during the show was awesome ! What you have to pay to go Worship Jesus ? I think He would have His whip out to drive out clowns gouging the sheep. Hey stay home, Worship Jesus in your living room and give that $200 to a needy senior citizen barely getting by....

@jessicadeluna6484

Жыл бұрын

Exactly this 👏

@werqaferaw

Жыл бұрын

I still disagree with your last point; " worshipping in living room" due to the fact that it is not what we commanded to do. There are still true somewhere, pray let God show the to ya!

@jessicadeluna6484

Жыл бұрын

@@werqaferaw Hebrews 10:25 does not apply to a "Christian" concert. This is for entertainment purposes only. You pay for a ticket and in exchange you are given the product you paid for. Its outrageous to even suggest this is"worshipping together".

@werqaferaw

Жыл бұрын

@@jessicadeluna6484 Hey, i was intended to reply for the writer of the comment. Sorry to mislead.

@lookupyourredemptiondrawsn8799

Жыл бұрын

Church can be in your living room it's more of a gathering then an official building in my opinion

I WANTED TO JOIN THE BAND AT VINEYARD AND WAS GIVEN A FORM TO SIGN THAT SAID I WOULD NOT DISAGREE WITH THE PASTOR! NEEDLESS TO SAY, I DID NOT JOIN THE BAND

Repentance is sweeter than the sounds of even the sweetest songs.

@peter25681

Жыл бұрын

Not repenting is the answer to the question, why are our churches failing?

@GodisGracious1031Ministries

11 ай бұрын

please define "repentance"

If you wouldn’t recommend a sermon from their church, you shouldn’t recommend their music. That’s my guideline.

@TomAndersonTodd

2 ай бұрын

And a really good guideline at that.

Galatians 6:7 “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.”

@michaelquintana1098

Жыл бұрын

Yes.. thank you... how I need make sure I remember this when am making comments.

@conservativevicki7612

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelquintana1098 I have been a Christian for many, many years, but memorization is difficult for me. I've bought some index cards and I'm writing the Scripture verse and reverence, and carrying them around to keep them handy to read and memorize. I want to be ready when I have an opportunity! Maybe this will help you?

@michaelquintana1098

Жыл бұрын

@@conservativevicki7612 that's not realy what ii meant..

The sad part is that most people after hearing this will just tell you to stop judging.

@paultijgers

5 ай бұрын

No... i won't ask him this because many are blind and deaf. And i am one of them. Hillsong or Bethel music is sweet as candy. But do we know 'why' that is ? Ok... it is hard to find. But they do have a dark side that is hard to find. And i didn't find this. And we need these people to let this known to us. But i am sad because a lot of these songs brought me very close to God while i know God is always with me. But God is not waiting for 'that' song to have my attention in that moment only. My church is singing them too. Now i don't want to go there any more because its a Hillsong Church. They do only sing Hillsong and Bethel songs.

@TomAndersonTodd

2 ай бұрын

Oh yeah. So true.

@festusnjata2989

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it's sad

It is impossible for us, as humans, to bring things into existence, or make things happen, just by speaking it. Only God can do that. That's His power.

We left a charismatic church last year because the Lord got ahold of us and our eyes and ears were opened. They are Bethel music obsessed and we did meet with the pastors to ask questions and express concerns. Nothing changed, which I anticipated, and we left gracefully. So grateful to now be in a church that is biblically solid (we even saw Voddie Baucham preach in person! 🙌 ) May God bless you and your ministry, keep speaking truth with boldness and confidence!

@dv4740

Жыл бұрын

Then it must be a healthy church.

@Lauren-vd4qe

Жыл бұрын

nothing changed bc they need to attract the majority of people in order to gain enough funds to fund the building and their salaries, thats why.

@bert-cq3ij

Жыл бұрын

@@Lauren-vd4qe Oh Lauren, that is so true. While attending a seminary reunion, many an alumni would say to others, "So, how big is your church?" My first place of ministry was in a mega Wesleyan church, we left when we saw more "money-making business" than gospel. From then on, we pastored only small churches, loved the people, not their wallets. Sadly, good pastors are disappearing...it's all about $$$$$, not Christ. We still grieve!

@Lauren-vd4qe

Жыл бұрын

@@bert-cq3ij stop grieving, kick them to the curb; dust your feet, hold your head UP and GO FORWARD!! get out of the mud puddle muddle and play this song "put on the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness" etc and dance \ march around your house with a tambourine BE A DAVID! A DANIEL!!

@bert-cq3ij

Жыл бұрын

@@Lauren-vd4qe Sure, they are kicked to the curb but the Body of Christ is torn and taking on serious water; for that I grieve. I'll have to dance in my heart, my legs were badly injured (Vietnam) so I am now medically self-retired...do guest church speaking, counseling, and write Christian articles in our town's paper. So love ya in Christ!!!

THANK YOU for putting this together! It's been so hard to describe the errors of Bethel's music. You have laid it out well enough for me to be able to share this with others. 😊

I did not know anything about Bethel but I saw a clip what shows a bethel leader say they had a dream of Jesus and that Jesus was asking for that man’s forgiveness. Why would Jesus need our forgiveness? That’s all backwards. That is nothing but selfish and self centered belief and not about God at all. They are crazy.

Before the Mandela Effect happened, the KJV used to say in Ephesians 5:19 sing your praises through psalms and hymns to the Lord.The reason being that you seal up God’s word and understanding in your heart and mind. Also,singing God’s words verbatim, helps you get through all of life’s highs and lows. The Mandela Effect has now added the words “speaking to yourselves” and “spiritual songs”, in this scripture. I listened to contemporary Christian songs all my life up until a few years ago. Something has changed in the musical Christian world and it is not just from Bethel. All music genera’s are starting to sound the same and blending to where you can’t tell them apart one from the other. I know not everyone sees this happening but pay attention to what is happening during this flood of deception and always seek God in all you do. Thank you for pointing out this truth about Bethel and challenging others to pay attention and seek God for his truth.

@deborahsmith5181

3 ай бұрын

Yes I can’t listen to Christian music for 20 yrs!!! World blend

Great commentary, Colin. Our church stopped using Bethel, Hillsong, and Elevation worship songs several years ago. Keep teaching biblical truth! Title misspelling: DANGEROUS :)

@FightForTruthMedia

Жыл бұрын

hahaha we've been having some typos lately! Thanks for the heads up!

@DedicatedtoYAH

Жыл бұрын

HalleluYaH. A congregation choosing the Tree of Life. True wisdom

@sylviapatterson1311

Жыл бұрын

BLESS THE LORD JESUS CHRIST WHO'S GOD OF ALL BE HIS GLORY ALLEULIAAA AMEN. BLESS THE LORD BROTHER YOU'VE GOT TO LET HOLYGHOST INTERPRET TO YOU BEFORE YOU SPEAK IN FLESH. AND DO MORE ARM TO YOUR GOOD EDIFYINGS THAN GOOD 1 JHN 2:20,27. YES BETHEL IS FAKE THROUGH THE EYES OF EVER BRIDE OF CHRIST. LUKE 8:10 YES JESUS CHRIST DO SPEAK IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING AS WELL. I DON'T LISTEN TO BETHEL,MAVERICK. BUT MY GRAND,NEPHEW WEALTH8 AND WISDOM 9 PLAY THE SONG MIRACLE. I WAS DRAWN TO GO IN AND LOOK. THEN THE LORD SAITH PRAY FOR HIM,WHO'S I LATER LEARNED IS JOE BARNES. I HAVE BEEN BRAYING FROM 22 SUMMER AS GOD LEADS. BROTHER THEY ARE NOT ALL AWARE OF THE BEGUILING SPIRIT🐉. BUT ALL AM SAYING IS EDIFYIN IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF HOLYGHOST JHN 14:26 AND DON'T LET YOUR FLESH INTERFERE WITH KNOWLEDGE,UNDERSTANDING WISDOM, AND REVELATIONS PEACE OUT 📖AMEN 🙏🔑🙏

@cjadream7

Жыл бұрын

@@FightForTruthMedia Reposting my comment: People are throwing the baby out w/ the bath water when it comes to prophecy. God still speaks today to people, and you need to stop telling people he does not speak through people today when that is totally false. Clearly, we all have something to learn. Are we to believe, then, that dreams only come from Satan? Are we supposed to believe when we 'discern', that it's not God speaking to us? Are we supposed to believe that if someone accurately speaks to a situation in our life that they're using psychic powers? Bad apples (to say the least) is not proof that God 'doesn't use prophecy today'. I love your videos, but your bad take on this is leading people right into the arms of New Agers.

@BronsonLivesHere209

Жыл бұрын

Is your church in Auckland, New Zealand? I live there because my church leaders refuse to stop singing Hillsong even though we have warned them about the church. I am looking for another church.

All my life, I've been very suspicious of people profiting through faith.

@thebrutaljudge9883

Жыл бұрын

how about being suspicious about all people who believe in fairy tales ?

@ianbuick8946

Жыл бұрын

@@thebrutaljudge9883 What make you say that?

@thebrutaljudge9883

Жыл бұрын

@@ianbuick8946 anyone who says he KNOWS something he can't see, hear, taste or touch is a BELIEVER and believers aren't rational creatures......you believe science when it heals your patient but you refuse science when it's about WHY I'm on earth.......never trust FAIRY TALES BELIEVERS........books are just what they are.....they are not the proof of NOTHING......i can write a book too.

I had a prophet who saw me in a vision of pushing a baby carriage an three children following me.he could not interpret the vision.so two years later i met a women who i marriage she had three small children and 11 months later we had a child.at this time i was wondering what did i get myself into can i continue doing this even though i love my wife and stepchildren and new child.then one day as i was walking with the children and pushing our new child in a baby carriage.this thought of this vision came back to me.at this time i need encouragement if i did the right thing.GOD spoke to this man an it was used at a time i needed it.

The main reason why I left the last church that I attended is because of the loud night club worship music they started playing.

@m_jay5

4 ай бұрын

Hillsong / Bethel are some of the largest night club churches in the world. I will have nothing to do with them!

Error mixed with truth is still error.

@timothyhollins6010

Жыл бұрын

Spot on and it's the enemies favourite strategy.

@JayeWilliamson

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think Colin getting ahead of himself by dissing some Christian music that stirs many a Christian. Maybe he should learn guitar and tell us how it should really be done

@joshuakarr-BibleMan

Жыл бұрын

I've heard discernment is the ability to distinguish between right and _almost_ right.

@EQOAnostalgia

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but it's also much more dangerous. You can tell Monopoly money isn't real... counterfeit money is harder to spot, which means it's likely SATANIC inspired, because Satan mixes truth with lies.

@thelordsephiroth777

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuakarr-BibleMan amen

As a former worship leader I agree with this review. Unfortunately Bethel has infiltrated so much of our music. Even other worship leaders who used to be solid, will collaborate with Bethel on songwriting and production. Churches need wise pastors to stay strong on guiding worship teams on what to sing.

@sharajoel0823

Жыл бұрын

Yes!! I think pastors/worship leaders should take their leadership seriously and stop using these songs just because they are popular.

@beaupierrebondurant5651

Жыл бұрын

Bethel is satanism.

@edenelston7668

Жыл бұрын

Nail on the head- worship PASTOR! not worship director. You don't need a director. You need a God-fearing Pastor.

@kathleenking47

Жыл бұрын

Hymns are still pretty safe

@jimmycain8669

Жыл бұрын

It’s not more dangerous than I thought. Bill Johnson has my cousin under his spell.

Ty soo much. It's gotten to the point of what is going on in the world. I get discouraged at times that i just read my Bible and ask God in my prayer before i read to help me understand the words. I draw my strength through Christ. So glad i cane acrossed your channel and subscribed after the first show. ❤

I sure am grateful that the Lord delivered me out of the dangerous charismatic movement. Always felt out of place because I was reading God's Word but I really didn't know, at the time, what was really going on and why I was so troubled , convicted in my spirit until after the Lord delivered me out of it. Praise and glory be to God for delivering me out of it all and doing for me what I could not do for myself. Perseverance of the Saints. Thank YOU Lord❣️🙌✝️🙏

@sonjastingl7986

Ай бұрын

❤❤

Colin lol😂 I like how you analyze these critical points at this age we are in!! You bring humor to it while being assertive. More grease to your elbow man.

Praying for that baby girl to rise from the dead, broke my heart! The entire scene was so disturbing!!😢

I agree with this. As a worship leader, there is A LOT of music that is sung in churches that doesn’t glorify God in ANY way, and that is where is starts to get dangerous. When singing songs from bands such as Bethel is verging on the dangers of just going to church for entertainment. We don’t go to the house of God to just get entertained, but rather to glorify God and who he is

@marisamartin3664

Жыл бұрын

You are saying 2 different things. One is that the songs may not glorify God- which you may analyze to tell pretty easily. They other sounds like sheer envy of talent, which I think motivates many of these videos. You judge the mtovations of the heart of worshippers as a group "going to church for entertainment." How could you know that? Is that how you think?

@maitran-kj4qu

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you. Satan is very clever and he know how to deceive human beings. Especially with people who are not wise and conscious enough. That happens with Eva

@emmysmith2236

Жыл бұрын

I agree with this POV. That I do.

As stated in the recent new book, 'Counterfeit Kingdom', when you allow music like Bethel and Hillsong into your church, their doctrine follows and infiltrates the church. We don't need new, trendy, relevant, or even emotionally charged/moving worship music. Worship is for God and God alone and not for us to have a moving 'experience' or to elevate us in any way. If that does, then the worship you're offering is actually worship of yourself; not God!

@francismarion6400

Жыл бұрын

Good call

@judesinoz1

Жыл бұрын

Well said!

@michaeleastham3868

Жыл бұрын

No, what you need is Catholic bred child abuse and COfE, introducing not only women clergy but gay and transsexual, to balance out the doom and gloom, fire and brimstone dour services.

@joeltolbert6659

Жыл бұрын

True to word…. Idolatry

@stefaniekay8699

Жыл бұрын

Great Doc on Hillsong Church on Discovery Plus right now

My former Church told a barren woman she would soon have a child, because we prayed for her. He broke my heart that they gave her false hope. She was crying her eyes out when we prayed for her. Since I was pregnant at the time, they had me lay hands on her to pray for her, since I had the “anointing”.

@sarahb7440

Жыл бұрын

My heart breaks reading this. I can’t have kids and have been told so many times to have faith since God can do anything

@Momofukudoodoowindu

Жыл бұрын

They should, instead, paint the realistic reality of her genetics not allowing her to and God calls some to not produce children, but to foster or adopt.

@FreedomAndJustice4All

Жыл бұрын

How long ago was it? God operates in His own timing

@sharonhainesNumber1Red

Жыл бұрын

@@FreedomAndJustice4All 13 years ago

@pamfink4052

Жыл бұрын

I would have to laugh in the faces of those people because the Lord would have to replace damaged organs that were surgically removed many years ago and perform a miracle like he did with Sarah so many, many years ago. It has been a long time since it was biologically possible for me to conceive, let alone carry a child. Did I want children? Most definitely, I always pictured myself with one or two babies, but the Lord had other things in mind. I have "adopted" kids along the way, some for a short season, some to stay in one way or another, including a family who became the one I never had. I helped raise my niece and nephew, then my nieces oldest daughter who is nearly 16; now helping raise my nieces 2 and 4 year old kids as well.

So many misunderstandings here: 1. New Testament prophecy is not for direction, it's for comfort, edification, and exhortation - you can't compare it with the Old Testament style of 'foretelling.' You can even play an instrument 'prophetically' in those terms. 2. That's a very bad version of Romans 8: 28 - all things aren't good, some are evil, and they don't bring us good. The correct interpretation is "IN all things, GOD works for the good of those who love him." In other words, even in evil circumstances He will continue to work to bring forth good, and He does it so well we are tempted to think He may have caused, or at least allowed the evil, but He doesn't need to use evil in order to do good! 3. God can an most certainly does speak to anyone who wants to listen - He may do it by highlighting Scripture, but if He's directing your steps it will be in plain language - go here or there, stop, start, or look out, don't eat so much bacon - anything you've asked for direction about! The only thing He won't do is contradict His word. 4. I wouldn't go anywhere near Bethel church, for a lot of reasons, but then I don't currently know ANY church I would go to, and that is sad - they're all apostate to some degree in my experience, and once you object to their wrong teaching and practices you'll have to leave or be thrown out!. However, that doesn't mean everything is wrong - you just need discernment - I've been singing "I Love You Lord (Goodness of God)" and it's a great song - unlike the ones you quoted, which are garbage - but then so are some hymns! 5. This is more for the comments: can we please get off this 'modern music is bad, traditional hymns are good' nonsense - it's a ridiculous generalisation, and it's not true - there was plenty of unscriptural stuff written in the 19th century too, so let's not be musically 'Amish' about it! Nor is it necessary for songs to be musical Bible studies or sermons - that's not what worship is about. But most importantly, we need to serve this generation - Watchman Nee said "everything about the church must be up to date, living, and contemporary, serving the present, one might almost say the passing needs of the time." Marshall McLuhan went further and said, "the media is the message" so if we sit in draughty churches with stained glass windows, use Jacobean language, and sing Wesleyan hymns, then the message is 'this is old fashioned, out of date, and has no relevance to everyday life in the 21st century.' Of course we don't change the message, but the media it's presented in must change - and where it doesn't, there is often a spirit of religion behind it. We're not here to please ourselves, we're here to win souls - of course it's the Lord who wins them - but we're not put people off even enquiring. So please be balanced about it - some churches are all Spirit and no word - this is bad and tends to blow up. Others are all word and no Spirit - this is equally bad and tends to dry up. The liturgical churches have neither Spirit nor word, for the most part, so it's pointless going to those. But, if you can find a church that's Spirit and word, you will grow up - personally, I don't know of one. God bless.

@evetsegap

5 ай бұрын

So when a "prophet" foretells something that's false, how does that comfort, edification, and exhort? It doesn't and what you wrote is not 100% true, there fore we know that you are not a teacher, prophet or preacher from God.

@SuperJ333

5 ай бұрын

@@evetsegap "Ye do err, because ye knoweth not the Scripturres, nor the power of God." It's OLD TESTAMENT prophecy that was for 'fortelling' things, and for direction. NEW TESTAMENT prophecy is not for either of those things - it's one of the 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit listed in 1 Corinthians 12, and it's available to those who are Baptised in the Spirit, although it's up to the Spirit to give that gift to whom He wills. A prophetic word, given in a meeting, is for the "comfort, edification, and exhortation" of the saints present, and it's given in the language of the hearers. But it can also come in the alternative form of a spoken message in an unknown 'tongue' which is then interpreted, and if that happens it's the equivalent of prophecy. Now, prophetic words can come from the Lord, from the enemy, or from the flesh, so it's important to exercise discernment - although in my experience it's easy to tell. For example, if the gist of the message is entirely comlimentary, it's not from the Lord, and on the other hand, if the message is entirely condemnatory, it's not from the Lord either. He manages to gently rebuke, exhort, and encourage, all in the same message - you can tell it's Him! And if the message is predictive and directional, it's not from the Lord, because that's NOT what New Testament prophecy is for. However, it doesn't mean that somone doesn't have a prophetic gift, just because they fall into error at times - although as they become more experienced in the gift, those errors usually fade away. Finally, I don't claim to be "a prophet or a preacher from God" - but I do seem to have something from the Lord in the area of what we might call 'Bible teaching' all glory to Him. So, if you're going to call me out, you'll need Scripture to show me my error, and so far I don't see any of that. God bless.

@ExcitingOnion

2 күн бұрын

Agabus prediction of a famine in the Book of Acts was true and allowed them to prepare. However, there are a huge number of fake prophets of all kinds these days, because they are selfish. There are still real prophets, but they don't become as popular because they don't play the game.

@SuperJ333

2 күн бұрын

@@ExcitingOnion Yes, but I don't see that as a prophetic word, but as a word of knowledge, as described in 1 Corinthians 12. It's true that the gifts overlap, and the divisions are somewhat arbitary, but the Scripture is clear about the purpose of New Testament prophecy, as exercised in the church (1 Corinthians 14: 3) and it's for edification, exhortation and comfort, and the equivalent gifts are tongues with interpretation, imparting the same message. God bless.

As someone who once listened to Hillsong and Bethel almost religiously, I found this video to be a serious eye-opener. Not only that, I remember playing some of their music (via computer) at youth groups as well as outside the main service back around 2014-2015, back when I worked in the A/V booth. Brother Colin, thank you so much for spreading this news. While I was watching this video, I could feel the conviction of the Holy Spirit come upon me just for playing their music before and after services in the past. Now, just thinking about their music makes my stomach churn, especially since things have only gotten worse, not better, since I left that post.

@mindblowing8672

Жыл бұрын

You have to be born again to feel his love and joy thru these worship songs. Otherwise it will be annoying and u will not get to feel his love running thru ur heart unconditionally. It is the best feeeling in the world and it motivate me to keep following Jesus no matter what I go thru. Becuz in live God will test u. In these last days there r lot of judgmental and wicked people who will bring u down, especially to God’s people.

@jsure8786

9 ай бұрын

Although some of the music is meant for good when I use to hear it playing in church idk it gave depression 🫤.

@kishredbird3599

8 ай бұрын

​@@mindblowing8672Worship songs yes but these songs no.

Spiritual hymns are really the way to go!! Most of the saints of old wrote them out of their pains. It moves and connects the spirit of man to the Spirit of God.

@nikao7751

Жыл бұрын

There's a brother, can't remember his name at the moment, but he's got a KZread channel and he's been working on putting the psalms to music, I've heard a few and he does a really good job, I've always thought about it but it's definitely a challenge.

@DedicatedtoYAH

Жыл бұрын

James Block is a treasure I have found. A sweet aroma!

@emeksb4823

Жыл бұрын

@@nikao7751 ohh nice When you remember, please let me know.

@nikao7751

Жыл бұрын

@@emeksb4823 you got it

@nikao7751

Жыл бұрын

@@emeksb4823 here you go, hope you enjoy kzread.info/dash/bejne/q6mHtJt-m6erpLA.html 🙏

Colin,…great job of bringing discernment to the front. One suggestion without criticism but intended to help,…slow down your presentation,…take an occasional break,..take a breath and let your points sink into the listeners thinking. God bless your work in fighting the enemy!🥰

@sstamper1368

Жыл бұрын

It takes me sometimes an extra 10-15 mins to watch a 15 min video because I pause, think, sometimes write and then press play again. But if I were listening and driving or multitasking, it would be more of an issue. I see where you're coming from.

Dude you are totally right about the music. My mom and stepdad attend bethel in Redding CA every sunday and probably much more. A few years ago my mother invited me, my wife and siblings to attend while we were visiting from montana. Upon arrival i was intimidated by the shear size of this Mega Church but that all changed when we sat down inside. My first impressions were amazing. The music was wonderful and i could almost feel something spiritual about it within me and i felt this way during the entire musical part. This all changed when the music stopped and they asked for money to build something for the children and this was practically their words “we only need a couple million to make this dream come true” I was immediately upset and those feelings of love and happiness drifted away cause i realized what they’re really trying to do. Maximize members and maximize profits to build more to attract more people. The real question i have is, what would Bethel be without its music? I appreciate you exposing this. Im hoping i can one day talk to my mother about this.

My wife had a miscarriage a few years ago when we first tried having kids. We were expecting again and terrified due to complications that were expected. A friend of ours took us to church with him and it ended up being a charismatic church. The preacher and elder brought us into a room and laid hands on my wife’s belly, prophesying; “Your son will be an apostle to the nations.” Two months later, and 17 weeks early our DAUGHTER was born and died in the NICU at 12 days old. Charismatics are a plague who give false hope and feed on people’s emotions when they are at their lowest point. Praise God that I didn’t turn away from Him, but rather saw the wolves for what they truly are. I am now more devout than ever in spite of the damage that the charismatics did in my life.

Esther Mui is a singer that sings psalms word for word. It's relaxing, and is on here free. Hendels messiah is a great piece of Christian music too.

@JohnDee633

Жыл бұрын

I listen to one of the people on here that do the psalms also. I love it! My son and I listen to it all the time in the car, and he asks so many questions about some of the verses. It’s a great way to help teach and learn one of the best books in the Bible.

@Sam-fp8zm

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDee633 amen :)

@JamesSmith-yw3nn

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this I had never heard of this young lady now she is on my Spotify. Very relaxing.

@joelhenry4643

Жыл бұрын

Miqedem

@Caelo2000

Жыл бұрын

I don't know what it is with people, it's almost like they are jealous because it has a following. All the music I've heard from hillsong and even Bethel I like and it's just glory to Jesus. It's so annoying 😒

That crackhouse lyric is brutal. We lose the same amount of people to overdose every TEN DAYS that we did in 9/11. Promising people that their loved ones are coming home when only 8% of us (i have well over a year clean now) find recovery due to a sore lack of resources... That's just rotten, & setting up so so many for heartbreak.

@TaraMichelleMD

Жыл бұрын

Congrats on your recovery! I’m at 6+ years clean from heroin/opiates.

@jsure8786

9 ай бұрын

Congrats to you both😀. The crack house lyrics are wild😂😂. Who says that in a song?

To prophesy is to proclaim, so you can absolutely prophesy facts that you have found in Scripture.

I have come to describe this as Auditorium Denomination. People come to check the Sunday box and get an uplifting psychological sermon to make them feel good. There are no prophecies of warning or admonition, instead it’s all positive and uplifting. I don’t serve an angry God that’s out to get me, but He does love me enough to warn when I’m off track.

Thank you so much for the insight 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽. Study to show yourself approved.

I saw cancer ( stage 4 Hodgins Lymphoma) disappear.😊

I had been spending a lot of time in scripture many, many years ago and was sitting in church one day, looking around, seeing all these people, hands raised, eyes closed. It all seemed so self absorbed and a way for people to feel better about themselves. The words to the song (I don't even remember the song now) were so self serving. They could have been about anyone! No mention of Jesus, no mention of God, no mention of The Holy Spirit. It really was a me, me, me song. I couldn't bare it. I just sat there, dumbfounded wondering what happened! It set me on a long journey of really paying attention to the music I had listened to over the years and realized that so much of it was man centered.

@karencarden4994

Жыл бұрын

You should meet Holy Spirit. He’s incredible and he is Gods spirit No one here knows him God REALLY loves Bethel. You can feel His spirit there. I’ve had lot of miracles

@juliefisk8066

Жыл бұрын

@@karencarden4994 what?

@Stynkrat

Жыл бұрын

While I agree a lot of worship music is self-centered, the act of raising your hands to God and singing to Him with your eyes closed is not. When I do so, I am doing so to focus solely on God and making the worship far more personal between us.

@jamesdenton94

Жыл бұрын

I just got back from Fri night service and every song was about Jesus God or Holy spirit!! They warned at the start it was going to continue till midnight it was a great service!✝️=💜

@wbl5649

7 ай бұрын

@@Stynkrat but this hand raising has become the norm. Everyone on the congregation does it, it's like the cool super spiritual thing to do. And if you don't do it they think your not really worshipping or " spirit filled"...I think many do it simply because everyone else is doing it.

I"m neither defending nor condemning Bethel Music. What I have noticed in many Christian artists' songs, including Bethel is that the term, "prophesy" is mostly used as a creative force to declare a desired outcome, not as an actual prophecy about the future. I think most of if comes from Ezekiel 37, where God tells Ezekiel to "prophesy" to the dry bones. I think people have taken that and use the term to mean "speaking to dead situations, commanding them to come to life" as the prophet did. To me this seems more like a misuse of a word than anything else. I came into this video expecting the worst about Bethel music, but I personally don't find the use of the word "prophesy" in this context to be "dangerous", maybe somewhat misguided to an extent, but hardly dangerous. My opinion in the matter is subject to change if I come across more information that would show how dangerous it is to listen to their music. I don't listen to their sermons, but i like their music, it has helped me get closer to God, and has helped me in my overall Christian journey.

My friend you need to heed to the words of Jesus. Now John answered and said, “Master, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow with us.”But Jesus said to him, “Do not forbid him, for he who is not against us is on our side.” Luke 9:49-50 NKJV

@evetsegap

5 ай бұрын

"What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Cor 5:12-13

It is unlistenable for many reasons.

Idk what to do. I've tried talking to the old Pastor and even a member of the worship team. They keep playing HS, Bethel and Elevation music. Today it was the song you are more than able." It just struck me as wrong! Like we're trying to give God a pep talk.

Thank you for speaking on this music issue. Anything that distorts the word of God, is very dangerous. I get my word of God, from my Bible. I also have a wonderful Bible based pastor and church. Thank you and God bless you, young man.

@peter25681

Жыл бұрын

Correction- the Bible is the words of God, Jesus is the Word of God... And He came that we may know the Father. Jesus modeled the love of God so we could see Jesus fall in love, then BEGIN to actually follow the greatest commandment, "to love God with all our heart...".

there’s some problems here but i also believe in prophecy today. i’ve seen it myself and in lives of others around me very strong

@nothingisimpossibleyes5396

Жыл бұрын

Amen

If God spoke to them,the words said would not contradict God's Word.

Colin is right! We've to distinguish between fun joyful music without biblical truth and spiritual songs with biblical truth. We all enjoyed 'worldly' songs but those songs aren't for our spiritual life. To worship God, we must worship in spirit and truth.

Hello young brother !!! For some reason you haven't been recommended lately saw your logo and had to tune in... Thanks for all you do, GOD Bless.

This is exactly what I told my church leaders before I left. They couldn’t accept it. Great video, Colin, but take it one step further: most churches pay a fee for CCLI which distributes royalties to the songwriters thus paying false teachers/prophets etc. So in essence, you’re putting money into the pockets of these people.😊

@josephdoby6411

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! They are yoked to them through their music.

@karencates5007

Жыл бұрын

I was told it's just pennies on the dollar. Whether pennies or not, it adds up!

@1123tiffany

Жыл бұрын

Hi. What does CCLI stand for?

@Melissa-hx3ye

Жыл бұрын

​@@1123tiffany Christian Copyright Licensing International

@StacyHartChristianMusic

Жыл бұрын

@@1123tiffany Christian Copyright License International 😊

Thank you for your warning and exhortations. May God bless you for your kind work of highlighting to us such hidden dangers in so called worship songs from false preachers and their institutions.

Bethel ,Hillsong,Elevation a lot of the CCM music industry is all connected together.

@Landis_Grant

Жыл бұрын

Bill Johnson, Carl Lentz and Steven Furtick the three musketeers of Hell.

@TLWishere

Жыл бұрын

CCM in the beginning was pure for like 5 seconds. It was already mega-corrupted by the time of Keith Green, which was pretty early…

@Kalimatullah_Yoh1-1.14

Жыл бұрын

what is CCM?

@Landis_Grant

Жыл бұрын

@@Kalimatullah_Yoh1-1.14 CCM = Christian Contemporary Music

@kb_9880

5 ай бұрын

Yes, read "Snakes in the Lobby" by Scott MacLeod.

For prophets a track record is beyond important. It means everything! It shows whether or not they hearing the Lord. Or if they are speaking in a presumptuous manner.

Spencer Smith was right.

Praise the Lord Bro Collins for your well balanced and sound judgement on the topic of Bethel Music.May the Lord continue to bless your ministry in fighting for the truth of God's word and reward you richly in spiritual blessings

True worship is the fruit of what God has already done in us. It comes from the joy of the Lord.

Amen, thank you Colin so much for pointing this music out , music plays a very vital part in our spiritual growth also contains messages as you pointed out in this video this type of knowledge is well-needed thank you so much brother God bless.

@TakingTheRainbowBackGen9-16

Жыл бұрын

Well if that's what you decide... I was referencing to those who listen to Christian music. I know it is always blessed me through hard times especially when it's biblically sound.

I m also in Apastolic Church Members in Christ 🙏🛐🙌👏God wants to hear our Worship and praise ❤️ with a true heart clean mind

@jamescausey3399

Жыл бұрын

U might be the first one to give the interpretation of John 3:8 or what everyone born of the spirit has in common with what it says in the scripture

Great stuff my bro. Love your videos. ❤

I stopped listening to most bethel music after learning of their heretical teaching. But we need to be discerning when listening to any Christian music. ✝️ thanks Colin for your faithfulness.

@jamesraymondsmith

Жыл бұрын

why not all?

@psilva7684

Жыл бұрын

Their is some good theological songs out their!! We will not be shaken! Is great! I still listen to some albums exalting the LORD! Does anyone watch Spencer smith and the 3rd Adam?

@raquelitacita

Жыл бұрын

Does anyone have any suggestions for someone to listen too thats not associated with bethel or hillsong

@raquelitacita

Жыл бұрын

​@@psilva7684yes I have watched 3rd Adam and Spencer Smith

@rhondaalbrecht

Жыл бұрын

Very true. When you listen to others, even ones that we've been listening to a while... really look at them with a discerning ear and eye, you'll realize that they are not truly Christian, but have sold their souls for fame and money. They don't live as Christians, but as the world does.

I read the lyrics of “Wherever You Lead” and identify at lot by them. For so many years, I’ve been led my emotions instead of God’s Word to the point of almost loosing my life. I guess those of us who’ve sinned at lot and we finally understand repentance and forgiveness, grace and mercy will find the lyrics of this song to be a redemption testimony where Jesus is the one to glorify! I love your channel but I am noticing the world is not dividing the church, Christians are dividing the church by constantly criticizing piece by piece anything another Christian will do. We are all come from different backgrounds and have different tastes and experiences, as long as these songs are Glorifying Jesus, I am pretty sure He will please with their lyrics!

@nisroc615

Жыл бұрын

@Nubiar5 I agree with you! I just heard the song “so will I” for the first time and it touched me so much. I only thought of one thing. God and his greatness and glory and how he deserves worship. To the people saying the music is bad I say this…Don’t rob the masses of coming to Christ because you don’t like the music. Because the songs aren’t hymns. Music grows, churches grow, the hymns are just as holy as ever, but people write new songs and their hands and hearts are guided by God. If you want to twist things around you can make anything seem bad. This music reaches people. I’ve never heard a song from these groups that glorified anything other than God. I have seen them touch the lives of many people and bring them closer to Jesus. Yes, people look happy while singing along and worshipping. That doesn’t mean they are serving themselves. They are experiencing pure joy through worshiping their savior. Their happiness comes from the Lord.

@camieleppard1122

Жыл бұрын

I agree we need to stop attacking!

@georgepoirier9014

Жыл бұрын

Be extremely cautious about the worship music that you listen to.

@jerevandewalle220

Жыл бұрын

He’s not saying all their lyrics are all bad he’s saying some of them are bad. He proved that. He’s bringing up the point that endorsing some of their stuff is endorsing all of it. As for that last part I hate to say it but that is just your opinion and is not rooted in scripture

@lcollins4313

Жыл бұрын

The Westwoods have a channel you might try. He was a musical leader at Bethel for 14 yrs.

Ty for only reading the lyrics. I realize it's due to copyright laws...when people play them in informative videos I end up with them stuck in my head. Thank ypu!!

Thankfully, my church is very selective of the kind of music that is sung in church for doctrinal reasons. Bethel, Hillsong, and Elevation music is 100% absent.

@Kalimatullah_Yoh1-1.14

Жыл бұрын

so hillsong, bethel, elevation are to be avoided? any other music to avoid?

@keromiranda129

Жыл бұрын

hahaah Michals minded

@Momofukudoodoowindu

Жыл бұрын

Many songs are anointed by these artists. God still used them and is moving in the church.

@Alex-uf8lk

Жыл бұрын

@@Kalimatullah_Yoh1-1.14 just listen to it urself u don’t have to exclude anything

@thelordsephiroth777

Жыл бұрын

@@Kalimatullah_Yoh1-1.14 LeCrae and the clique 116 rap crew has sold out

"You're not making Christianity better, you're making music worse." -Hank Hill

This channel is opening our eyes. Thank you so much and remember you and your entire team in prayer. ❤❤

@karencarden4994

Жыл бұрын

This channel has a huge religious spirit. I pray You all find Holy Spirit. He is God also and you clearly don’t know Him at all. Gods spirit. Sad. Jesus left and sent His Holy Spirit. He is here in earth w us. Stop listening to demons

Wow i just noticed your much your channel has grown! I joined at 81k. This is fantastic!

You had me at "atrocious work of fan fiction".

@fnjesusfreak

Жыл бұрын

Considering that he says he was commissioned by an angel named "Passion" he sounds exactly like Joseph Smith.

@goosieschmoo8239

Жыл бұрын

@@fnjesusfreak oh dang! You're right about that.

@JayeWilliamson

Жыл бұрын

@@fnjesusfreak What the heck does that mean? Lol

@fnjesusfreak

Жыл бұрын

@@JayeWilliamson I mean he says he got special revelation from an angel. Joseph Smith said the angel's name was Moroni and Brian Simmons said his name was Passion but otherwise the story was exactly the same.

@JayeWilliamson

Жыл бұрын

@@fnjesusfreak I didn’t watch whole vid but I still don’t understand your comments.

Did you catch the first line in the song “God of Revival”? It says “WE pour out your spirit”. That is pure blasphemy, we do not control God the Holy Spirit.

The patriarchs prophesied over their children. They told them their futures and didn’t say, “Thus sayeth The Lord.” Words do have power. “I believe; therefore, I speak.” That’s also scripture. Baptist here.

God bless your heart young man and may God bless America with young Christians like this one. 👍👍🙏🙏

Thank you. Looking forward to more videos on this. I think it is very much needed. So many people seem to be blind to the doctrine behind these songs.

Yes you can play clips of their music if you are criticing, evaluating, or for study.....

Thanks for the video. I just finished up the book, Church Fellowship, John Brug, which is a great discussion on why we must separate ourselves from false teachers. Knowingly supporting a false teacher is not God pleasing. Thanks for making me aware of this false church.

💯 Amen. And it’s not just bethel. You have to know and differentiate the spirits. You can sing most beautiful and sound biblical verse in a way that is not reverent. It comes to the manner of preaching and teaching as well.

Wow! Thank you Colin for sharing the truth of all of this. Continue to stand boldly on the word of God, and may God bless your ministry.

@briendoyle4680

Жыл бұрын

haha

That’s I always play the songs of planetshakers. Their songs are very theological. They are so underrated, maybe bc their key of songs are so high that an ordinary worship leader can’t keep up. And it’s kinda hard to play especially there synth effects. But yeah, as a musician and worship leader, planetshakers is my go to music.

@hiptoalieu

Жыл бұрын

SUPER UNDERATED GROUP!

Colin enjoy your videos and the lessons I have learned. Please pray for me as I pray for you and this channel.

This is right on, and this is how I know - Before hearing anything negative about Bethel I began noticing when certain songs came on the radio I would feel sandpaper against my soul and change the channel. When I began taking notice of where the music was coming from I began paying attention to each song that wasn’t settling in my spirit, and Bethel was the “write”. When I began researching and running into people in town who had visited Bethel (I live here in Redding, Ca) I realized something wasn’t right. Here I am 6 years later and am fully aware of who and what Bethel is, and it’s not good.

@dagman85

Жыл бұрын

I am not saying this to be petty or contrary, but rather for your benefit. It's good for you to notice that sensation, but it's also important to be sure that you are correctly understanding its meaning. For instance, in the hypothetical scenario where someone was being demonically oppressed, they might become uncomfortable when hearing music that carries the anointing of the Holy Spirit. I know a woman who attended a church service and started feeling a tightness in her chest and difficulty breathing as soon as she stepped inside. Thankfully, she decided to stay for the whole service and come back the next week, in spite of her discomfort. During the service that second week, the heaviness lifted off her and she felt much freer and lighter after that. In her case, the discomfort was a demon that had been oppressing her for an indeterminate amount of time getting uncomfortable in an atmosphere where the presence of God was being more strongly manifested. What you were feeling while listening to that music is significant, but it isn't immediately clear if it was indicating something positive or negative about the music. If you would like a biblical basis for this, look at the way a demon manifested in the synagogue when Jesus was present. It had been quietly present up to that point with nobody any the wiser, living in the body of a Jew who was presumably attending synagogue regularly, but when Jesus showed up it began to show itself.

The fact that they have to copyright their "worship" music tells you everything.

In the 80s, we had Integrity Hosannah and it was basically singing the word in song. We need to go back to that.

@GalileanInvariance

Жыл бұрын

... and Maranatha! Music ...

@markolinux8206

Жыл бұрын

Late 70s - early 80s we sang what we called "scripture songs"... we had a multipage booklet of lyrics, all songs based on scripture or just scripture. Our youth pastor's wife played the acoustic guitar while we sang. Sometimes our tempo would outpace her on the guitar... she got a real workout sometimes! :^)

The music is also hypnotic through its rhythm and repetition of phrases opening your mind to receive their false teaching.

@Ephesians-yn8ux

Жыл бұрын

It puts the mind into a state of gnosis.

@kathleenking47

Жыл бұрын

7 eleven songs?

@paulc7190

Жыл бұрын

ye olde hymns put me to sleep

@bert-cq3ij

Жыл бұрын

@@paulc7190 At least they were/are biblically sound. You may not be seeing what you are singing.

@kathleenking47

Жыл бұрын

@@paulc7190 if they are done a different way, they don't have to be

I leftthe charismatic church,and after leaving I finnaly found Jesus

@sonjastingl7986

Ай бұрын

❤

If "having a form of godliness without the power thereof" had a name it would be BETHEL.

@michaelquintana1098

Жыл бұрын

Yes.

>125K Subs this week... Good Job Colin spreading God's Word

May God mightily use you to be a voice of His Word....in Jesus' name. Amen!

"That is something literally any Christian could say." Paul also literally told every Christian to go after prophecy if you accept his letter to a church was guidance for every Christian. 1 Corinthians 14:1 "Pursue love, yet earnestly desire spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy" The rest of the chapter explains why.

@evetsegap

5 ай бұрын

True words from God are 100% accurate 100% of the time. If you think God is unable to speak through people with 100% acciracy 100% of the time, your faith is lacking aand your teachers are false. Repent.

I freaking love songs that go deep into theology, literature and religion and not surface level emotion driven stuff! And the Bible is chocked full of this stuff and no one is taking advantage of that and that bothers me sooo much that I might have to do it myself!

@spiritman-em4qr

7 ай бұрын

You're right about the value and richness of the bible being a deep fount for drawing up amazing theological lyrical content. I've penned a couple songs that are almost verbatim from the scriptures, and I almost can't get through them without crying due to how emotionally moving they are. I can't stand bubble gum "worship" music.

Appreciate you Colin. Continue doing this good work. Love from Namibia

I was part of one of the first satellite schools for Bethel (circa 2008 2010) My church that I attended most of my life had embraced a lot of their theology and we even had several of their leaders including Kris Vallton along with Sub leaders many times. I was part of a leadership group that got to see a lot of things behind the scenes. I can tell you that even though I love so much that I experienced. My spirit always felt off, I knew about the Kundalini spirit and I kept thinking this seems like that sometimes. I asked some of my leaders why they’re chanting because the Bible specifically says not to chant. I was never given any valid response other than told to not let the devil rob me of God’s truth. I left after going through it for two years and decided I didn’t wanna be part of it anymore. The manipulation became more clear to me from my perspective. The “honor” System that was placed on certain leaders or prophets was beyond the pale.

Thank you so much Colin❤

NOTHING Fully Biblical come from Bill Johnson & Bethel Church

Okay, so this is an editorial for cessationism. But we don't have OT prophets around today because every believer has the indwelling Holy Spirit and can hear God's voice. In OT times, only certain people could hear from God. So they were under strict accountability because they were speaking for God to people who could not hear God's voice. I don't agree with the "prophecies" that you mentioned, and they should not have been publicly spoken to everyone in a meeting. In the NT, for a public prophecy, every believer is supposed to carefully listen and discern whether or not this is from God. A problem is that too many people want the power and authority of the OT prophets, but no one wants the accountability they were under. Each Christian has the indwelling Holy Spirit though and can hear God's leading in our lives.

Sir, I just found your page. Thank you for sharing this.

Absolutely 💯 correct! Thank you!❤

Christian Rock/Metal often has such deep-cutting, thought-provoking lyrics that really grow my love for God and how He’s always there for me in my hardship and adversity. The worshipful songs in the genre are also fantastic, praising God not for false prophesies, but for His support in the evils of the world. Many Christian Metal songs focus on the fact that God is our only way to overcome sin, and I really admire that.

@NateDaniel

Жыл бұрын

What are some of your favorite bands?

@Stynkrat

Жыл бұрын

@@NateDaniel Red, Demon Hunter, Wolves at the Gate, Fit For A King, Falling Up, and Pillar just to name a few

@NateDaniel

Жыл бұрын

@@Stynkrat Thanks! Will check them out! Been looking for some good music!

@Stryper1

Жыл бұрын

@@NateDanielAlso try…Stryper, The Resurrection Band, The Daniel Band…great music!!!!

Hey Colin,this was excellent. I would like to suggest, and others may have already in the comments, but it may be helpful to follow up with the lyrics of a theologically sound hymn ie a mighty fortress is our God or Be Thou My Vision or a Getty song ex: Pass The Promise and it’s history according to the writer, it may be enough of a stark contrast that people will see exactly your point.

Psalm 58:10-11 Some of what I see in Christendom makes me wonder whether burning at the stake was always wrong. Then I read The Word and remember that my God has it all under control.

Good video. Good resource for clarity on prophesy among other things. Interestingly I’ve heard some reformed describing preaching as prophesy, which strictly speaking is not prophesy. Not sure what to call that issue.

Great work.

Great Job Colin..

Thank you brother in Christ Jesus. 🙏🏾☦️

Thank God in my church we just sing what is in our hymnal. They review every new hymn before it is added and if it doesn't says as in the Bible well it's out.

@SamuelLee-gw6wr

6 ай бұрын

It's same at mine, they reviewed a song called I Adore You (我要愛慕祢) before I could lead it.