Thanks to Peter Sarellas for teaching this old dog some new tricks.

For sports it makes sense to have less motion blur. The 180 rule comes from cinematic filming days with rotating shutters and is meant for the cinematic look.

I film a lot of motocross and when I film I’m usually running at 120fps and 1/400-1/800 love it.

thanks to your wife that she was kicking your ass to make this KZread channel. absolutely helpful for me in many reasons. I am a long time professional filmmaker making commercials or image films with no effort but now I am filming sports at a university here in germany and its so nice to have this tipps for this niche of videography. thanks though and keep going!

@BeyondTheGame_E

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great feedback, it’s truly appreciated.

Thanks made my first hype video with the help of a lot of your videos! Turned out better than expected!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

That’s awesome 👏🏽 👏🏽👏🏽

Shooting my first game tonight! You earned my follow. Excited to learn! Peter is the first KZreadr I came across so this is wild!!!

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to the channel 👊🏽

Just the video I was looking for! Great comparison footage too that helped as well. Great channel and very helpful.

@BeyondTheGame_E

5 ай бұрын

Thank you!

Great content dude! I've been following you for a couple weeks now and I've learned a ton of great stuff. Soon I will be able to have awesome footage even using my smartphone's camera. Thx for sharing the knowledge.

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great feedback!

Thank you for this!

Awesome breakdown E! When people ask me to go into detail on this in the future I’ll definitely be referring them here.

@BeyondTheGame_E

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! It wouldn’t have happened without you.

I'm about to shoot my first full football (soccer) match tomorrow, and I just wanted to say thank you for the info and the very clear demo to show the differences! I filmed training sessions in the buildup to this match to test out my settings, and the problems of keeping the 180 shutter were pretty clear (especially since I export photos from the videos as well). I'm glad I found this right before the big game 😄 Thank you again, this really helps a ton! 🤜🏽🤛🏽

@BeyondTheGame_E

3 ай бұрын

Happy to help! Thanks for your support 👊🏽

Thanks for this video. I was just reviewing some footage I shot in yesterday at a soccer game, and I was going to use some of your hype reel techniques. I found that the footage, especially when cropped in became to blurry especially when you want to slow everything down to actually look good. So then I was like ... hmmm maybe I should shoot with less motion blur. Did a search for "what shutter degree angle sports video" and your awesome video came up. I hadn't heard the term overcranking, so nice to have some vocab to describe it. Today I'll be back at the pitch and give overcranking a shot. Fortunately I'm shooting mid day so I should have plenty of light to keep the iso down. Thanks again for the great content. I really love your hype reel videos. Would love to see some more edit breakdowns.

@BeyondTheGame_E

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for this great comment. And yes, there are more editing videos coming soon.

3:26 now that’s how you set a screen! 😂

@BeyondTheGame_E

3 жыл бұрын

💯

Nice tips man 🤘

Finally!! When someone is saying to me that Im wrong because of not using the 180-rule I will send them your link :-D

something its good to look at some of this video on youtube thanks bro

Thanks to you, it took me one day to figure out how to avoid blur in moving objects :) 180* rule doesn't match to fast moving objects combined with fast moving drone. Thank you for this video.

@BeyondTheGame_E

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help. There’s plenty more where that came from!

Thanks mate. Great advice.

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Appreciated 😊

Nice video! Thank you!

Awesome vid! Really helpful here E! P.S. That guy got nailed @ 3.25!!

@BeyondTheGame_E

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! And yeah he never saw it coming 😂

@petersarellas

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao I didn’t even take in that screen but he got destroyed 😂

That was really interesting!

@BeyondTheGame_E

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you think so 😊

thank you for this

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure 😊

I love you man

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

🫶🏽

God activity I will continue to stay connected

I’m glad I found you

Really excellent video. I like the way you explain things. The question I have is what setting do you use for the deliverable for sports videos- 24p, 30p. 60p, or 120P. Thanks!

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

I’m in Australia so I mostly deliver in 25fps. So in 🇺🇸 the equivalent would be 24 or 30.

good video and comparison

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊

This video made me subscribe

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Thank you 😊

I’ve always overcranked for sports (240), as long as the light is good. Only downside is in sports like baseball, you can “loose the ball”

Great tutorial thanks

@BeyondTheGame_E

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@NilPacz

3 ай бұрын

@@BeyondTheGame_E always welcome

NBL1 is elite!

Hi, I found your channel now and I am really impressed with the quality of your footage. I signed up and will now get all your videos back. I make football videos in Italy, I resume the matches with commentary and then I edit the highlights on KZread (amateur football). Right now I'm confused after so many years about the settings to use. Over the years with the Sony a6500 (lens 16-55 2.8) I film the last games at 100fps 1/200 and ISO 3200 (otherwise it would be too dark). In addition to some annoying noise there is also a not beautiful crop and the quality on the sonya6500 loses some. So a week ago I went back to using 50fps with 1/100 but thanks to this video… I think I'll go back to 1/200. I also do replays on goals or in main actions. Do you recommend that I also try 1/300 or higher? Thanks for your attention!

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

The faster your shutter speed is, the darker your image gets. Which I assume you know and that's why you went back to filming at 50fps and 1/100 shutter speed. So yes, a faster shutter speed might look cool, especially for your slowmo content, but if you have to push the ISO so high that your image becomes very noisy, it might not be worth it.

I always overcranck my sport footage. It also makes post stabilizing better

Heaps of amateur sports filmographers need to watch this

It's funny you made a video on this. I shoot stills and do short slow motion clips of dogs sprinting and jumping logs etc. When I use S&q mode, I find the slo mo footage looks better if it's a fair bit higher than the 240 fps 180° degree rule. It ends up super sharp but still smooth compared to the motion blur and slo mo. Hmmm

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's usually the case but it's a fine line though. If you go too far then it starts looking jittery. Not so much in S&Q or if slowed down afterwards, more so when you play the footage at normal speed.

@themarksmanABP

Жыл бұрын

@@BeyondTheGame_E oh ye deffo. Watching your vids has made me think... I may be better off shootimg at 60fps for the smooth and life like look. Just due to the specific nature of what I do whilst also keep cranking up shutter on slo mo clips. Great channel

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

@@themarksmanABP Sounds like a good plan! and thank you for the kind words 🙏🏽

Question for you, this week I picked up the zve10 on your recommendation and then a used A7iii because I am torn on wanting a full frame. Also bought a Sony 18-105 G which is a crop sensor lens. Sending back that lens with the idea to buy a full frame to use on both cameras while I decide which body to keep. I want to be incognito shooting hoops from the stands and behind the backstop for baseball for my HS player. What IBIS lens would you recommend? I saw your sports lens recommendation video for tamron but no IBIS on those…….awesome videos btw, thank you for sharing all the tips!

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback. Filming from that far you’ll need a 70-200mm. The Sony f2.8 and f4 both have image stabilization.

Generally I think people don't care. I think us as videographers CareMore. 95% of the time go with the 180 rule. If I want that fast paced shot I trun it up. We are creators, there are no rules..🎥🔥

@BeyondTheGame_E

3 жыл бұрын

You’re not wrong.

3:25 LMAOOOOOOOO

@BeyondTheGame_E

3 жыл бұрын

😂

FOLLOWING

@russccc6227

3 жыл бұрын

Same here.

I still prefer the 180 degree rule. Overcranking and frame rates of 60+ in full speed will likely end up being the future, but for me they just don't look right. An exception would probably be overcranking gritty things like UFC or boxing, I think for those it would actually be pretty good.

@BeyondTheGame_E

3 жыл бұрын

Fair call.

I'm currently investigating this topic as I'm competing in fencing. When I'm knocked out, I use my downtime to video my teammates for analysis purposes as well as having their bouts immortalised. As each division is 3 mins, I'm looking at filming 4k 120fps at 1/250 or 1/500 shutter speed

@BeyondTheGame_E

6 ай бұрын

Have you had a chance to look at the results? Which shutter speed do you prefer?

I've just discovered your channel and I almost watched all the videos lol, thanks for sharing your tricks. Greetings from Argentina

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

🙏🏽

What about in an outdoor stadium setting at night with decent lighting on the feild but around the outside is pretty dark ? High school type stadium.

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

It’s the same concept.

Great upload 👌In your opinion, would this overcranking method be suitable for birds in flight or fast action animal behaviour, personally I think it should but you have first hand knowledge. Your input would be appreciated. Phil🇬🇧

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

The concept is the same. The birds will look much sharper but the lack of motion blur might make the movements look a bit jittery. You should just test various shutter speeds and see which look you prefer.

I’m shooting my first football game tomorrow with a canon Sl3 I got the sigma 70-200mm and the canon 16-35mm hopefully I’ll get some nice shots like the ones in this video 💪🏾

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Good luck 👍🏽 let me know how you go!

@ICON1OF1

Жыл бұрын

@@BeyondTheGame_E Welp it went ok the pics looked good on cam but once downloaded to my MacBook the pics look not as good 🤦🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

@@ICON1OF1 that happens, live and learn. The important thing is understanding what you did wrong so you can improve next time.

Thank you for the video. I’m curious what you think is the highest ideal shutter speed and still look good when shooting 30p 4k. Maybe 120? I think I have 70 mb resolution at 4K

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

There’s no recipe per say. What looks good or bad to me might be different for you. But personally I wouldn’t overcrank much if I was filming at 30fps. 1/120 would be the absolute maximum I would go and even that sounds scary to me. The lack of motion blur looks much worst at normal speed than in slow motion so at 30fps there’s not much of an upside to this technique.

What shutter speed do you recommend for Iphone 13 Pro and FilmicPro app, filming at 60-fps FullHD (using ND filter), should I follow the 180 degree rule and use 1/120 shutter speed or should I over-crank the shutter speed like 1/480 or what do you recommend? Trying to film some soccer actions for my son and post them on social media (youtube, instagram)? I'm editing them on DaVinci Resolve but I don't know it the final edited movie should be delivered at 60fps for youtube/insta or at 30fps?

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

In theory the fact that it’s a phone shouldn’t make any difference. You can crank the shutter speed to achieve that sharper look or not if you prefer a more natural one. But in saying that, I’ve never actually filmed sports with a phone so this is not a proven theory, just an assumption.

So if I want to combine 50 FPS footage look in post, with a 24 FPS cinematic footage of pregame etc, how is that best done within my editing project?

@BeyondTheGame_E

2 жыл бұрын

Create a 24fps timeline. You can then use your 50fps footage at normal speed or slow it down to 50% of the original speed.

You were shooting a basketball game with a Canon EOS r camera, I think you mentioned. How did you get past the 15min timer or the overheat barrier? The video looked great, did you shoot in 4k or 1080? What lens did you use? I want to shoot Youth Soccer in 4k with an R7 or R6, R5 and can't go over 60fps with my Canon gear without an overheat situation. I have a full set of Canon L Zoom lenses to use. I had considered increasing the shutter speed to at least 1/500 however when shooting stills at that shutter speed, I still get motion blur at the players feet. I find I need to shoot at least at 1/750 however I have never seen anyone talk about this until you. Everyone else is concerned with video blogging and cinematic look and feel etc. Thanks. You also looked as if you were holding the camera while shooting as well as using a tripod. Do you change focus points using the lcd? Great Video, thanks!

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Oh boy that's a lot of questions! 😂 I was shooting with a Canon EOS R. The recording time limit is 30 minutes though not 15 but, either way, I rarely record clips much longer than 2 minutes when filming sports. I was filming at 1080/50p and had no overheating issues whatsoever. I don't think I ever had overheating issues with that camera. I used a 24-70mm lens I believe and I was mostly on autofocus but sometimes I do use manual focus if I'm staying on one particular player. Regarding photography, the faster your subject is moving, the faster your shutter speed should be if you want sharpness around your subject. So when shooting most sports, you should be at least at 1/1000 or maybe 1/800 if it's kids.

@michaelcruz5521

Жыл бұрын

Update firmware and change your settings to hi temp, overheating resolved. Also, if you record to an external monitor, you can record unlimited 4kHQ 60 on the R5/R6 mkii.

@coachgeorge_30

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelcruz5521 Recording to an external monitor/ssd does not allow me to change focus points. Not important when you can position yourself where the player is ultimately heading, very important when videoing outside on a large field with 22 players. My firmware is updated and I tried that. Depending upon the temp outside where I shoot, it still shuts down. I find that with "L" glass, 1080 and 100fps I get good results. Thanks

beyond the game i have a question. i have a aviation channel and i film air shows which could be harder than sports videos. i would like to know from you should i use a tripod with a monitor or a monopod. what do you think cause with your sports your just left to right while im looking up and down

@BeyondTheGame_E

2 жыл бұрын

We have to move up and down in sports too. People move towards and away from the camera all the time so we adjust in all directions, not just left to right. But to answer your question, a tripod will always be your more stable option. And at an air show you probably won’t be moving a lot because you would have to go quite far to affect your perspective so there’s no point in using a monopod if your are going to be stationary.

in my case i shot at 100p at 1/200 which is 180 but only if i slow it down, it’s great for iso 12,800 of a7siii but it’s still overexposed, so i’m happy to stay at 1/400

Old post, I know, but wondering, do you ever try to shoot "non action" (coach talking to the players during timeout) guys just starting to get out on the court, etc. at the slower 180 degree shutter? Or do you shoot it all at the higher shutter speed? Does it make a noticeable difference in your experience?

@BeyondTheGame_E

8 ай бұрын

I shoot everything at the same shutter speed and it doesn't really make any difference to be honest.

Hello, Would you advise me to shoot a football match in 60fps or 120fps to get the most clear image with my Nikon Z6II? Many Thanks!

@BeyondTheGame_E

2 жыл бұрын

Depends what you mean by clear. If you're talking about image sharpness, frame rate doesn't really affect that. But if your goal is to have a more vivid look instead of cinematic, you need to edit and export a 60fps sequence. And your footage has to be either 60 or 120fps.

What did you use for audio in this video? ShotgunMIC?

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Are you talking about when I'm talking to the camera? If so, I use an XLR shotgun mic.

What’s a good settings for video and what’s a good in setting for pictures using 24 -70 mm f4 and I’m using a canon 90 D your feedback would be very helpful. Thank you.

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

For sports photography you need your shutter speed to be at least 1/800 even 1/1000 for faster sports. For sports videography it's pretty much all explained in the video already.

@Short_117

Жыл бұрын

@@BeyondTheGame_E THANK YOU 💯💯💯

hi there. how to prevent the video from flickering when we set the shutterspeed higher than 100 or above?

@BeyondTheGame_E

11 ай бұрын

First of all, you have to make sure you are filming in the right electrical cycle for the country that you’re in (NTSC/PAL). But if you still have flickering, the only thing you can do is to slow down your shutter speed or use proper studio lights instead of normal lights. Otherwise there are plugins that you can buy to remove the flicker in post but I don’t know them.

@FixAhmad

11 ай бұрын

@@BeyondTheGame_E i see. thanksss for the sharing. this helps so much 😄

if I shoot 60 fps should I set the shutter to like 300 ? I think saw tat Peter does 320 , I have an FX# so it candle anything I throw at it , cheers

@BeyondTheGame_E

Ай бұрын

Yes 1/320 works. There's no perfect recipe though so just try it and see how you like it.

Question would this technique work for example I shoot High School Football with the lighting isn't that good what techniques you would use for shooting video at night if the lighting wasn't that great?

@BeyondTheGame_E

8 ай бұрын

It's really hard for me to know without being there to look at your screen while the lights are on. My advice is to test it on a few shots pre-game and look at the results on your computer later.

Clemson’s video director told me they use 120fps with a shutter of 1/400 for social content.

Are you shooting in 1080p when doing slow motion? I have a Sony A7RIII and dont know if I should shoot 4K or 1080p

@BeyondTheGame_E

4 ай бұрын

In this video I was because, just like you, my camera didn't allow high frame rates in 4K. But since then I bought a camera that allows me to shoot in 4K/120.

What lens do you use with your canon r?

@BeyondTheGame_E

3 жыл бұрын

In that particular case I mainly used a 50mm lens. But a 24-70mm or 24-105mm would have been ideal.

Doesn't the zoom ring sound in the microphone when you use the zoom ring of Tamron 28-75?

@BeyondTheGame_E

2 ай бұрын

The Tamron 28-75mm zoom ring is completely silent.

Have you guys noticed any differences at verying frame rates with over cranking SS?

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

By cranking up the shutter speed, you’re removing motion blur. So at full speed the lack of motion blur looks much more unnatural then in slow motion. The slower the footage is played the less motion blur you need.

Which lense did you use to record that game?

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Ouff it was a long time ago now so I'm not 100% sure but I think it was a 50mm F1.4 lens.

Sports as far as I know even on TV has been overcranked to 90 degree or even 45 degree shutter angle for many many years, its not a new thing, its been there for years - I remember my early days in film school being taught this and seeing it in many early youtube videos. You can even go far back to the days of TV before cable and satellite and see examples of that. The 180 degree rule is from cinema to give that choppy blurry look and its not how the eye sees in real life - Your eyes will see something more differently - The reason why we still have the 180 degree rule for film is purely aesthetical - nothing to do with it being realistic, because it isn't realistic.

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

There's a lot I disagree with in there but to each their own. 😊

I have a Sony A74, for 60fps and 120fps what should my shutter speed be ? I record basketball games

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

The camera model doesn’t matter. It’s the same concept for any camera. If you want a more natural look just double your frame rate. But if you want a sharper look, crank it up.

@SidelinePlugs

Жыл бұрын

@@BeyondTheGame_E i was recording in 60fps with a shutter speed 1/160 but i might lower it to 1/125 to see how i like it

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

@@SidelinePlugs yeah that's the way to go if you want a natural motion blur. The difference won't be massive though. 1/125 being the base, you would need to push it to at least 1/250 to notice a big change in sharpness.

@SidelinePlugs

Жыл бұрын

@@BeyondTheGame_E what lens do you recommend Tamron 28-75 or 28-200 ? I want something that's good at recording close up and seeing the opposite side of the court.

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

@@SidelinePlugs Here's a video I made on this exact topic kzread.info/dash/bejne/oaF7xrmepZOyfMo.html

I’m wondering if anyone has any recommendations of what video mode I should be in for recording sports primarily hockey

@BeyondTheGame_E

2 ай бұрын

What do you mean exactly by video mode?

@LoganD

2 ай бұрын

@@BeyondTheGame_E I mean like there’s aperture priority mode, shutter priority mode, manual mode

@BeyondTheGame_E

2 ай бұрын

@@LoganD Manual mode is the way to go for any sport but even more so for hockey because of the ice reflections. You can't expect a camera to understand and expose that properly.

Are you coming to the FIBA worldcup?

@BeyondTheGame_E

11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately I am not ☹️

flicker is the real problem though if Oh crank the shutter speed

@BeyondTheGame_E

8 ай бұрын

True. It's important to look out for flicker or banding when pushing the shutter speed.

Great video! I personally shoot all my “normal” videos in 90 degrees and 45 degree for action and sport. I don’t like the 180 degrees rule, to much motion blur. And for slow motion clip, 180 degrees is a desastre. Who want to see slow motion clips blurry? I think people have to forget this 180 degree rule, the people perception is changing

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with your approach, great way to develop your own unique style .

1/250 is enough to freeze motion, is there any reason to go above that?

@BeyondTheGame_E

11 ай бұрын

To freeze it even more and give it an overall sharper look.

@DigiDriftZone

11 ай бұрын

@@BeyondTheGame_E I’m filming a touch rugby game next week, will try both thank you for the video :) - will put my ZV-E1 and 70-300 Tamron to good use.

Do you shoot in 4k/60fps or 1080/60fps??

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

In this particular video I was shooting in 1080p/50fps. But now that I have a better camera, I shoot sports in 4K/100fps.

What about focus settings? Mine pulses badly

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Here are my autofocus settings kzread.info/dash/bejne/h51kxsiPh87edLg.html

@upbeforethaopps

Жыл бұрын

Helps a ton!

how about flickering light if you shoot indoor? shutter speed is high

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

When you have a very fast shutter speed, you might see some banding because the shutter speed can't sync with the refresh rate of the lights. There's nothing you can do about it other than slow down your shutter speed. But if you see flicker, that might be because you're using the wrong frequency (NTSC vs PAL). If you don't know what that is, just watch this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/dpVhxLVwkZabqrA.html

@davegarciajr191

Жыл бұрын

@@BeyondTheGame_E thank you new subcriber here.

I guess to each its own, but over cranking feels unsettling to watch for a longer period of time. It's okay if you want to give a sudden stressful action scene shot, but not continuously throughout the whole game.

@brianh3730

3 жыл бұрын

What’s unsettling about it?

@EVOlutionHTC4g

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianh3730 it's similar to under cranking, it may be sharp for still motion, but feels like line skipping. Just doesn't feel natural, lot more stressful shot.

shutter speed option is not present on my gh5, so frustrating on my piano footage!!!! you don't actually show how to get the shutter speed on the video settings in your videos!!

@BeyondTheGame_E

2 жыл бұрын

Shutter speed is at a different spot on every camera and I don’t use Panasonic cameras so I don’t know where it is on yours. But it definitely exists. A simple Google search should help you find it pretty quick.

@user-bb2rb3mc9x

2 жыл бұрын

Look for the variable frame rate option.

@alzibaba

Жыл бұрын

Really? I used to use a GH5s and it's definitely there. If the GH5 menu's the same, go to the Movie M menu and scroll to SS/Gain Operation. Choose Angle/ISO for shutter angle, or SEC/ISO for shutter speed. Best off using shutter angle for video though. Then in manual video mode, you control the shutter angle/speed using the top right rear scroll wheel - at least that's how I have mine set up. You may need to assign shutter speed/angle to one of the cam controls.

Is it just me or the crank mode lose some contrast ? I think I prefer the 180° rule.

what cam is he using in this video

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Canon EOS R

@mariiisirdez3489

Жыл бұрын

@@BeyondTheGame_E is there a special lens. i want my basketball vids to look jus like that

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

@@mariiisirdez3489 Any lens with a wide aperture (F2.8) can do that look.

I’d like to see this technique but in real time! 24 fps

Rules are meant to be broken

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Preach 🙌🏽

So you’re doing 25fps and doing a shutter speed of 400 ?

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

No on that day I was doing a few different tests but typically I shoot at 100fps and 1/400.

go Bulldogs in AFL

Why are you shooting at f2.0 and not a higher aperture? You'll have too much focus racking.

@BeyondTheGame_E

Жыл бұрын

Did you not like the way it looked?

why would you shoot 50fps when you play it back in real time. the 180 shutter speed makes no sense that way.

@BeyondTheGame_E

11 ай бұрын

First of all, your comment is a bit weird considering that this video is specifically about NOT using the 180 shutter speed rule. But either way, when filming sports with the intention of editing hype reels that include speed ramping, you have to film everything at a high frame rate because there's no way to predict what's going to happen and if you'll want to slow it down in post or not.