Best Portrait lens? 85mm vs 70-200mm

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  • @CeeMeeNYC
    @CeeMeeNYC7 жыл бұрын

    Three years ago and still vitally relevant! Thank you Matt

  • @Aramis7
    @Aramis710 жыл бұрын

    Thanks mate, your videos are great and cover a wide range of topics. keep em coming. cheers

  • @Jerome...
    @Jerome...8 жыл бұрын

    6:43, yep totally looking at her face.

  • @MichaelMa

    @MichaelMa

    7 жыл бұрын

    Do you have it in f/16?

  • @meetoloveu2

    @meetoloveu2

    6 жыл бұрын

    yup looking at the face lol haha

  • @jonathanchow3401

    @jonathanchow3401

    6 жыл бұрын

    how are you taking a naked shot in a law library??????

  • @VioletRaya
    @VioletRaya6 жыл бұрын

    This was the perfect video I needed to make the decision on which one I was going to buy. Now I picked the right one! Thank you!!

  • @Zippy1357
    @Zippy135710 жыл бұрын

    This is a superb video, well structured, interesting, everything. Thanks!

  • @Sunny-wu7po
    @Sunny-wu7po4 жыл бұрын

    Thanku so much sir..u hav done some amazing comparison videos n those are such informative n very helpful for beginners..loved ur work♥️🙏

  • @sebbytrial
    @sebbytrial9 жыл бұрын

    @4:40 the left image is taken at 200 and the right one at 100. Simply look at the background

  • @KevinEuceda

    @KevinEuceda

    9 жыл бұрын

    Liciu SVisual Exactly what I was about to point out but you had already mentioned it. Thanks :)

  • @philxdev
    @philxdev11 жыл бұрын

    Yes Matt is really doing a great job, reinventing tutorials in a slightly different way! Thumbs up big time!

  • @Bigsteves426
    @Bigsteves4267 жыл бұрын

    I'm enjoying your videos very much. I am new to photography. But, I enjoy the relaxation it brings me while I travel and shoot photos. I have three lenses I use. I feel they are not as good as in quality. I am however working on getting a better portrait lens. Thank you for what your doing. It certainly gives me help, and great information.

  • @sid8355
    @sid83559 жыл бұрын

    Just purchased a rokinon 85mm f1.4 manual focus, the sharpness is amazing. Cost under $300 on amazon

  • @mattgranger
    @mattgranger11 жыл бұрын

    glad you can see the quality is going up!

  • @pharris2587
    @pharris25878 жыл бұрын

    Amazing comparison - exactly what I needed to see!

  • @Mannock
    @Mannock11 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a good, straight forward discussion on the lenses.

  • @Teddymwenda
    @Teddymwenda9 жыл бұрын

    that deep throat

  • @banama1758

    @banama1758

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Crimson tiger nice avatar bruh

  • @Malmoe4

    @Malmoe4

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Crimson tiger hahahaha I thought what the hell is going on there?! :D

  • @Teddymwenda

    @Teddymwenda

    8 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @jonathanlevin5975

    @jonathanlevin5975

    8 жыл бұрын

    OK no one else like this comment because it now has 69 likes and I think that is perfect

  • @Teddymwenda

    @Teddymwenda

    8 жыл бұрын

    Octahedron lol thanks

  • @vincentpothuizen3606
    @vincentpothuizen360611 жыл бұрын

    Dear Matt! I bought the 70-200 f4, for my NIKON D800 and I LOVE IT!! Also for portraits! I've seen many reviews with the 70-200 f2.8 and the 70-200f4 and some primes (NIKON). The 70-200 f4 came out as TEST WINNER! So I bought it! Btw, I LOVE your work! You inspire me enormously! I check you website (s) every day! Please keep up the GREAT work! You reallllllly inspire me!!!! Best of greetings from the Netherlands (Eindhoven). Vincent Pothuizen

  • @mattgranger
    @mattgranger11 жыл бұрын

    nice point

  • @cooloox
    @cooloox7 жыл бұрын

    Hi Matt, you labelled the images incorrectly at 4.39. The 200mm both has a shallower DOF (as per your calculations beforehand) and brings the background elements closer. The model stays the same size because you doubled the focal length and doubled the distance. However, in relation to the background you moved a neglible amount backwards and doubled the lens, effectively magnifying the background (making it appear closer)

  • @f8bethere
    @f8bethere10 жыл бұрын

    Good comparison and explanation. Thanks

  • @kellyfeger
    @kellyfeger3 жыл бұрын

    I love your model's sense of humor!

  • @tonycool100
    @tonycool10011 жыл бұрын

    I made the same choice after owning both 85L ii and 70-200 is II. This is an awesome comparison. Excellent job!!!

  • @felipeopazomusic
    @felipeopazomusic11 жыл бұрын

    great video and channel, i'm always learning from you. All the best from Chile.

  • @americandowninbrazil
    @americandowninbrazil10 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Matt! Excellent video!

  • @HuFilms
    @HuFilms10 жыл бұрын

    It looks like the two images are mixed up at 4:41. the 100mm looks more like the 200mm should look. The Canon 100mm L macro is super too, probably a lot sharper than the 70 - 200.

  • @JohnMacLeanPhotography

    @JohnMacLeanPhotography

    10 жыл бұрын

    Hugh Sweeney I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought the 2 focal lengths were flopped! I bought the Canon 70-200 2.8 IS Mark II last fall and it is amazingly sharper compared to my previous three 2.8 versions. Is it prime sharp? Maybe not, but it's so damn close! Not sure if this link will post: facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154291309640405&set=pb.184563975404.-2207520000.1404711099.&type=1&theater

  • @HuFilms

    @HuFilms

    10 жыл бұрын

    cool, I'd love one of those lenses too.

  • @karlhans6678

    @karlhans6678

    9 жыл бұрын

    Hugh Sweeney I want to take professional quality photography but does this mean I have to buy a red ring lens?

  • @HuFilms

    @HuFilms

    9 жыл бұрын

    No, it means you have to be good!

  • @deanaustin1975

    @deanaustin1975

    6 жыл бұрын

    Your lens matches her sweater

  • @LiannaLovelle
    @LiannaLovelle9 жыл бұрын

    6:57 her face when she finds out the price haha :')

  • @Michael-op5hk

    @Michael-op5hk

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sarah Buxton OMG yes! she said "give me that!"

  • @gpudoctor
    @gpudoctor11 жыл бұрын

    Awesome man, very professional. Thank you!

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi Жыл бұрын

    Good info! Subscribed!

  • @Megurin88
    @Megurin8811 жыл бұрын

    this is really helpful thank you for making this comparison.

  • @JessOconjr
    @JessOconjr6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video... Very informative. I've been looking for a good camera sling and notice you're using one. What brand are you using (holding the 70-200mm) and are you satisfied with the quality. Thank you in advance.

  • @geogan2
    @geogan210 жыл бұрын

    ha ha. love the outtake at the end! have 70-200 2.8 L IS Canon but would still like a 85 if I had the money.

  • @TheTimelapseFilms
    @TheTimelapseFilms11 жыл бұрын

    Your explanation is really good ! you got your self a new subscriber ! Keep it up.

  • @MZ72
    @MZ7211 жыл бұрын

    Great video, Matt!

  • @mattgranger
    @mattgranger11 жыл бұрын

    This was not his best work - obviously too shaky and missed focus. We had a mix up and no one brought stabiliser and this was first time using this camera. We have shot since with his own camera and rig and results are much better. Apologies for this one

  • @wysmolek
    @wysmolek11 жыл бұрын

    Just for portraiture the 85 mm (1.2, 1.4 or 1.8) is a step up in quality that you can achieve. The isolation and contrast is superb, but 70-200 is also a very good lens, also did some portrait work with it. It's great allrounder, much more you can do than with 85 mm. However just for portrait 85mm is a great lens (on FF and on crop).

  • @AX-xu3gx
    @AX-xu3gx8 жыл бұрын

    0:32 when you go dressed as the lens...

  • @bh9262
    @bh926210 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Matt! Is that your favorite portrait lens with the 1.6 crop or full frame?

  • @marcotonelliphotography
    @marcotonelliphotography2 жыл бұрын

    Have to leave a compliment. Probably you are one of the best reviewing lenses. Love the real world approach. That's what counts

  • @MychealJones
    @MychealJones11 жыл бұрын

    I have been shopping around for a 85mm lens; hopeful I can get mine before Christmas.

  • @alansingleton8048
    @alansingleton804810 жыл бұрын

    Hi Matt. At about 4:40 on this video you're comparing 100mm and 200mm shots, but it looks like the shots are swapped. The 100mm shot has the more compressed background like a 200mm would be.

  • @bloodyhellboy92

    @bloodyhellboy92

    10 жыл бұрын

    wow and i thought that i got it wrong, but i was right! they really are swapped !

  • @ZyklonB95

    @ZyklonB95

    10 жыл бұрын

    I noticed this too. I was trying to figure out why I thought I was wrong, but it turns out I'm not the only one.

  • @ZyklonB95

    @ZyklonB95

    10 жыл бұрын

    ZyklonB95 PS, I love Tina!!!

  • @Eliguitar1
    @Eliguitar111 жыл бұрын

    great vid. well done.

  • @namdude0373
    @namdude037311 жыл бұрын

    What camera did you shoot this with? The sharpness is great

  • @dgs1092
    @dgs109211 жыл бұрын

    Hi, are you enjoying your new canon gear and do you prefer anything about it compared to the nikon stuff? Cheers

  • @Brestcoons
    @Brestcoons6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the video! One question, where can i buy such a black jacket as you have on video?

  • @formattester6
    @formattester610 жыл бұрын

    excellent illustrations!

  • @JoeLopez
    @JoeLopez11 жыл бұрын

    Great info as usual Matt. Nikon 85mm 1.8G is next on my list.

  • @syekbe
    @syekbe8 жыл бұрын

    What camera did you use to shoot this episode? Image looks very nice!

  • @Ash1983111
    @Ash198311110 жыл бұрын

    Good video.. Thanks !!!

  • @ppandm1911
    @ppandm19119 жыл бұрын

    The focal length of the photos in 4:49 were wrongly state,@100mm should be the effect of 200mm and vise versa.

  • @unagitonamazu
    @unagitonamazu6 жыл бұрын

    great video for me like getting to buy either one

  • @mr.rawhite
    @mr.rawhite11 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison Matt.

  • @LevinBe
    @LevinBe8 жыл бұрын

    At 7:35 she is like why the hell does this piece of glass cost 2000 bucks 😂

  • @RavencoreLZR
    @RavencoreLZR7 жыл бұрын

    1:50 "...deepthroat it or something..." You just threw it out there. lol

  • @sigmaoctantis_nz
    @sigmaoctantis_nz8 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure you're getting mixed up with depth of field. With the same framing at 100mm vs 200mm you will have more depth of field at 200mm because the subject is further away. You also had the examples around the wrong way. This is why telephoto lenses can be better for portrait photography because you get more of your subject in sharp focus and less background for better separation.

  • @top10enespanol81

    @top10enespanol81

    8 жыл бұрын

    Hi Sigma, no, you get less dof with the 200mm and reframing farther.

  • @sigmaoctantis_nz

    @sigmaoctantis_nz

    8 жыл бұрын

    So I looked it up and actually the depth of field on the subject is the same if the apertures are the same with the same subject framing. What I was trying to explain is that the 200mm effectively magnifies the background bringing it closer and making it look more blurred creating more separation. This graph shows what is going on: howmuchblur.com/#compare-1x-100mm-f2.8-and-1x-200mm-f2.8-on-a-0.9m-wide-subject

  • @top10enespanol81

    @top10enespanol81

    8 жыл бұрын

    Hi Sigma, i check on the link very nice tool, yes the back gets closer.

  • @top10enespanol81

    @top10enespanol81

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @marcromodevivar

    @marcromodevivar

    8 жыл бұрын

    Im agree with you at 4:48 the left imagage is at 200mm and the right is at 100mm definitely and without a doubt, is someone cant notice this, definitely dosnt deserve to be named as a pro photographer, you can see clearly at the left an aparentely closest background, more blur, and "bigger palm tree at the back

  • @colnagocowboy
    @colnagocowboy7 жыл бұрын

    my smc takumar 85mm 1.8 is one of my favorite lenses

  • @nrproduction5020
    @nrproduction50207 жыл бұрын

    BEST VIDEO, I HAVE EVER SEEN ON DEPTH OF FIELD##THANKS

  • @gsfilmesinc.9936
    @gsfilmesinc.99367 жыл бұрын

    hi matt i have a question wich one should i buy for wedding shoots canon 50mm 1.2 L or canon 70-200 f2.8 ii..cheers

  • @mikeearussi
    @mikeearussi8 жыл бұрын

    Have you ever used a 135 f1.8 for portraiture? I own one and it's my favorite lens for that purpose (used wide open, of course).

  • @VadimOm
    @VadimOm7 жыл бұрын

    now this is what i call a great educational video, maths that you added to visual samples are a way to go!

  • @KevinFedde
    @KevinFedde11 жыл бұрын

    What is that camera strap that you are using on your 1D-X? It looks so much better than the normal strap, and I would love one like that for event shoots.

  • @balacau
    @balacau11 жыл бұрын

    I hope this isn't too much off topic but I was wondering what you think of using a macro lens as a portrait lens? Especially the shorter ones (Tamron 60/2, Sigma 50/2.8 and Sigma 70/2.8), as these are often advertised as being very capable of portraits or even as walk-around lenses. Very interesting and informative video, thank you.

  • @j133yc
    @j133yc11 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I own both and I do shoot a lot of portrait. You may combat the camera/lens shake with IS/VR/VC or whatever but you can't combat motion blur if you are shooting at 1/60 or slower. Also, like what was covered here, you can create something special with 1.2/1.4. Trust me, you will be shocked to see the difference in background rendering. I use 70-200 mostly but for a dedicated portrait session, 85 wins all the time.

  • @SyntheticFuture
    @SyntheticFuture11 жыл бұрын

    Now I find myself wanting 2 grand to get a lens like that. That library shot is really cool, love how shallow it is and the bokeh.

  • @pixAmant
    @pixAmant11 жыл бұрын

    Like always, very good!

  • @StefanoV827
    @StefanoV82711 жыл бұрын

    So cute laugh Tina :D Good Work Matt!

  • @Teacherinasubie
    @Teacherinasubie10 жыл бұрын

    Zoom lenses are more forgiving. I find it harder to have bad photos. Many of them are good photos. Prime lenses require a lot of shots. The awful ones are terrible. However, when you nail a shot with a prime lens, it looks amazing. The clarity of the focus is unmatched in a zoom lens.

  • @vincentpothuizen3606
    @vincentpothuizen360611 жыл бұрын

    Cheers back to you! GREET to correspond with you! As I wrote before, you REALLY inspire me to get my gear out! I learn a lot via your GREAT videos! I remember another video from you, where you spoke about people who have a job that they don't really like. This goes for me too! :-( This is one of the reasons that I do more and more with photography! Please keep on doing what you do, posting all these GREAT videos! I AM YOUR FAN!

  • @cityhunter2501
    @cityhunter250111 жыл бұрын

    any plans on reviewing the 135L? Curious to hear your opinion against the 85L. For portrait I use a Sigma 50 and 135L combo, have the X100s if I really need to shoot 35mm

  • @enduraman1
    @enduraman18 жыл бұрын

    I saw you were shooting with Canon 70-200mm lens. For most people Matt Granger says the 70-200mm is best choice. I agree it's more flexible with focal lengths and the narrow field of view works really well for head shots. Plus 70-200 gives the background more compression which I really like. Cannon at 200mm is great for head shots.

  • @seamuswarren
    @seamuswarren8 жыл бұрын

    What focal length provides the most flattering compression of facial features in head & shoulder shots and also group shots?

  • @rogerhayes3855
    @rogerhayes385511 жыл бұрын

    Matt you rock..Big fan of yours from Ireland! Canon or Nikon, your videos are great. I shoot Canon and still watch all your videos. Keep up the good work man, These guys are just key board warriors, it shouldn't matter what you shoot with, photography is what you make it.

  • @KingGameReview
    @KingGameReview11 жыл бұрын

    I have a Rokinon 85mm f/1.4 and I love it.

  • @drasiritzbir
    @drasiritzbir7 жыл бұрын

    "Thanks buddy, feel the same" :D I LOLed way to hard over this!

  • @gunwharf
    @gunwharf11 жыл бұрын

    Great videos as always. But Help.! I have Nikon D7000 ( with Nikon Grip ); Nikon 50mm 1.8 and Sigma 17-70 f2.8 - 4 looked at buying Nikon D600; but glass I own would not do justice ( or would it ) or buy . Sigma 70-200mm f2.8 O/S or Tamron 24-70 f2.8 VC. Would like to shoot portraits and possibly fashion portraits inside and out .. Do I cut losses; sell gear and buy Nikon D600 with the 24-85mm kit lens.Or D600 body and 2nd hand 85mm or Samyang 85mm f1.4 Any suggestions greatly received.

  • @Digmen1
    @Digmen12 жыл бұрын

    One thing you did not discuss is what is the best type of bokeh Eg the palm trees Where you can make out the palm trees? Or where they are just a blur Which would win a photo competition?

  • @MichaelLaing71
    @MichaelLaing7111 жыл бұрын

    Good comparison. I personally love the 70-200mm, due to its flexibility and find that the 85mm rarely comes out of my bag. My favourite lens though is the Zess 85mm 1.4 Planer T, which for me is the best feeling lens you can buy (though not optically in the same league as the Canon 85mm 1.2 or Nikkor 85mm 1.4) and the lack of AF can mean it take time to focus, even with the in camera manual focus meter. But it feels just a little bit more special than any other lens I have ever used.

  • @Avidcomp
    @Avidcomp9 жыл бұрын

    Who was your DOP today Matt? A little struggle with the AF me thinks... Video> steadycam>manual focus...or a tripod! I'm happy to see you two beautiful creatures on a locked off. (Can I come to Oz and work for you?)

  • @ashibanez
    @ashibanez11 жыл бұрын

    thatcanonguy! XD Cheers mate! informative vids!

  • @GustavoAdrian26
    @GustavoAdrian266 жыл бұрын

    Which one is best for full body portraits?

  • @95provideophotography42
    @95provideophotography429 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Bro

  • @hasibji
    @hasibji9 жыл бұрын

    i'm looking wide angle lens not just for landscape more about group, senior, family, wedding lens what you think what is best for me ? thanks

  • @gewglesux
    @gewglesux11 жыл бұрын

    great upload matt!!! still not used to seeing you with a non black barrel in your hands..

  • @MrDundee09
    @MrDundee0910 жыл бұрын

    you are so funny with tina hahah but thank you for this information its very helpful

  • @Aswinishere
    @Aswinishere11 жыл бұрын

    For event photography the zoom of the 70-200 is useful. The image quality is good also.

  • @vincebrophy321
    @vincebrophy32110 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant !!!

  • @MrRocksteady77
    @MrRocksteady7710 жыл бұрын

    great vid, hilarious ending.

  • @apixelintime
    @apixelintime10 жыл бұрын

    Wait - "that Nikon guy" with a Canon? Good for you!! Welcome to the light side, we have cookies!

  • @Stoupik
    @Stoupik11 жыл бұрын

    Hi Matt. It appears that you switched the images at 4:34. Photo on the left is probably taken at 200mm. Great comparison, though. And perfect timing. I own 70-200 f/2.8 and I'm thinking about purchasing the 85mm 1.4 from Sigma (f/1.2 from Canon is little bit expensive for me).

  • @itsmeeeeeeeeeee
    @itsmeeeeeeeeeee11 жыл бұрын

    So if I am using a 75mm f1.8 on Olympus OM-D am I getting the compression of a 75mm lens or 150mm lens in full frame equivalent terms?

  • @NDSCollector
    @NDSCollector11 жыл бұрын

    hi is the berlin photowalk coming out soon?

  • @felipeopazomusic
    @felipeopazomusic11 жыл бұрын

    since i'm doing video, i just got a Canon 70-200 f.2.8 (non IS) and an Rokinon 85mm T.1.5 (manual focus, cine lens) and i'm very happy with both. The 85mm at T.1.5 (f.1.4) is perfect for interviews (and i guess portraits) when you want to really isolate your subject, meanwhile the 70-200 at 135 or 200mm gives me greater compression and is also great for pictures (since its got autofocus). I'd say get both, you'll find use for it. A cheaper alternative would be the Canon 85 f.1.8 (around $400)

  • @frtorres87
    @frtorres8711 жыл бұрын

    "Chacha, thanks buddy feel the same" great video Matt.

  • @miloa.2684
    @miloa.268411 жыл бұрын

    hello! im a novice to photography and I want to know what is the best intro-level DSLR, from Canon or Nikon. Thank You!

  • @vicentesalazargarcia992
    @vicentesalazargarcia99211 жыл бұрын

    cual de los dos es el mejor 85mm o el 70-200mm que diferencia hay entre el 70-200mm y 70-300mm muchas gracias por su respuesta

  • @danielsan81
    @danielsan8111 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking about getting the (canon) 85 f1.8 to use alongside my 70-200 for weddings (I shoot 2 bodies). Good idea? Too specialist? I thought it would be great for the end of the night when your arms are about to fall off too!

  • @arkano01
    @arkano018 жыл бұрын

    oh my god, she is the cutest model ever, i love her!!

  • @yasiralivlog
    @yasiralivlog4 жыл бұрын

    Which one give more sharp result of a picture at F4 ??? Canon 85mm f1.8 or temron 70-200 non VC.

  • @matrixlee6392
    @matrixlee63927 жыл бұрын

    Can anyone verbalize the difference of bokeh between 85 prime and 70200@85 (both F 2.8)? I didn't see much other than the color rendering and I think Matt didn't specify much about it.

  • @sjbuck
    @sjbuck11 жыл бұрын

    @Roman, I agree

  • @MrBigleafs
    @MrBigleafs10 жыл бұрын

    at 4:33 min during shots comparision, 100mm shot has been swapped with 200mm shot. mistake while editing the video

  • @avetisberberyan9903

    @avetisberberyan9903

    4 жыл бұрын

    I noticed that as well

  • @ye9514
    @ye95149 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @duhbiyung
    @duhbiyung11 жыл бұрын

    matt, would you do comparison 85mm F1.2L with 135mm F2L?

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