Best of Series: Inside Consciousness || Antonio Damasio

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This episode is part of The Psychology Podcast's "Best of Series", where we highlight some of the most exciting, enthralling, and enlightening episodes from our archives.
Today we welcome Dr. Antonio Damasio. He is an internationally recognized neuroscientist whose extensive research has shaped the understanding of neural systems and consciousness. With over a hundred journal articles and book chapters, he has earned many prestigious awards throughout his career. Currently, he serves as University Professor, the David Dornsife Professor of Neuroscience, Psychology, and Philosophy, and director of the Brain and Creativity Institute at the University of Southern California. His books Descartes’ Error, Looking for Spinoza, Self Comes to Mind, The Strange Order of Things, and Feeling & Knowing, have been published in translation and are taught in universities throughout the world.
In this episode, I talk to Antonio Damasio about consciousness. People often think that the mind and consciousness are the same thing, but Dr. Damasio disputes this notion. He argues that it’s the complex relationship of both our brains and bodies that makes sentient thought possible. Homeostatic feelings like hunger and pain developed before emotions; and along with it came consciousness. We also touch on the topics of perception, mental illness, evolution, panpsychism, AI and machine learning.
Website: dornsife.usc.edu/bc
Twitter: @damasiousc
Topics
02:35 Time-locked multiregional retroactivation
11:45 The difference between the mind, intelligence, and consciousness
18:58 Panpsychism is an escape
23:04 AIs can replicate minds but not consciousness
25:56 Feeling gave way to consciousness
31:12 The purpose of emotions
33:39 The evolution of feelings and emotions
38:50 The interoceptive nervous system
44:35 Does mental illness disrupt consciousness?
50:03 Creativity as a bottom-up process
54:50 Consciousness can hinder creativity
58:19 Scott’s interest in panpsychism
59:52 Can we ever make feeling machines?
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  • @caytien4778
    @caytien47784 ай бұрын

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  • @the_nryn
    @the_nryn5 ай бұрын

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  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    27:00 ! emotions and feelings are similar but it’s better to attribute emotions to self concept and feelings to personal identity (more complicated than that but it’s simpler). Emotions and feelings are similar to the vibration and sound resulting from striking metal, assuming that metal represents morals and values...and that relates to the self.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    They Hallucinate a lot! Emotions, morals, values,….etc are just a part of the repository that belongs to self concept. Humans create imaginary values to things through personal identity too, and create principles based on built-in morals and values, but they can create principles based misunderstandings, myths, …..etc They mix things up as usual!

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    Mind is a larger process that includes, consciousness type one, thoughts,…etc. But it’s not an entity!

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    41:00 perception! They mix perception with consciousness type one! basically perception is processed by consciousness type two to turn the data into information!

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    27:20 They mix things up as usual because of the lack of understanding ! Mind is a larger process that can include consciousness type one, personal identity, thinking process itself,…etc At the end it’s a process not an entity.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    37:20 Involuntary facial and body expressions are linked to the concept of the self, while voluntary ones are linked to personal identity and consciousness type one , but the basis still the concept of the self.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    57:00 they can’t differentiate between consciousness type one and type two (basically they don’t know that there are two types of consciousness!) artistic creativity is relatively different from scientific creativity, but in any case consciousness type one and personal identity are involved in this later (they are the means of conscious communication with the world)! It’s far more complicated than that (oversimplified).

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    Yeah! They talk about information in a weird way! Perception for instance passed through consciousness type two firstly before it becomes available to consciousness type one.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    It’s Fantasy!

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    Brainstem and the surrounding area upwards is related to self concept. but the main location of self concept is the brainstem. Brainstem Limbic system Cortex But self concept reaches the cortex, it’s what generates both personal identity and consciousness type one (Simultaneously).

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    29:20 they don’t recognise that there are two types of consciousness: consciousness type one and type two, they already started to steal and pollute human thoughts but some of them still not updated.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    30:30 they don’t know what life is, they talk about the symptoms of life!

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    homeostasis! that’s the task of consciousness type two (not entirely but important part that plays the main role in vital processes).

  • @Anin-oe4jh
    @Anin-oe4jh5 ай бұрын

    23:40 he is working on imitating human thoughts: self concept is what generates both consciousness type one and personal identity,….etc No one can challenge human mind (impossible), the only have two choices, get into denial state or work on stealing and polluting human thoughts which they already did since many years ago (organised systematic theft crimes).

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    Very likely space is one indivisible unit and fine structure constant is a sign of maintaining space as one indivisible unit,….. etc Future generations must focus on connecting both levels (subatomic and cosmological levels), because they are strongly connected to have the ability to understand the fundamentals of physics.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    55:00 weird! consciousness type one is a process generated by self concept concurrently with personal identity, consciousness type one is a tool to recognise the inner and outer worlds that requires the brain, the mechanism of consciousness type one is very sophisticated that will take ling time to understand (it needs far more advanced mathematics , physics,…etc). creativity is related to self concept and consciousness type two but consciousness type one could involve in creativity too. People who suffer from psychological problems, whether sudden or over a long period of time, usually have a reduced level of consciousness type one . A person has a personal identity and level of consciousness type one as long as he is awake, and the level depends on the individual’s condition. It is difficult to adapt my own thoughts to their thoughts to be easier to understand (different logic) and they mix things up with a lack of understanding, but that’s my best and not good somehow.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    32:00 that’s wrong! He talks about emotion that belongs to self concept and feelings is related to personal identity (it uses consciousness type one, the one you recognise). Fear is built-in characteristic.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    47:00 ! What can I say! Schizophrenia is related to kind of split between self concept and personal identity (even though what generates personal identity is self concept itself), but that has to do with psychological trauma,….etc and the inner thoughts is complex (there’s dialogue between personal identity and consciousness type one “personal identity uses consciousness type one to recognise the inner and outer worlds”, and other hidden dialogue between self concept and personal identity “similarly even though self concept is what generates personal identity” ), in severe psychological trauma the level of consciousness type one becomes lower and sometimes …… this topic is complicated topic but the above mentioned is enough.

  • @Anin-oe4jh
    @Anin-oe4jh5 ай бұрын

    23:40 they only repeat human thoughts (consciousness type one is just a process generated by self concept), so it has no meaning to upload a process! They even can’t comprehend the meaning of process!

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    Consciousness type two: it’s consciousness too and it’s a tool too, how do you recognise your dreams?! just miraculously?! You use consciousness type two to recognise your dreams. Consciousness type two which just a tool is involved in many vital processes, humans use consciousness type unknowingly, for instance during driving a car, sport games,…etc (cerebellum)

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    Neural activity must be studied in the science of embryonic development, especially the brain. There is something that uses genes with an advanced coding system (genes are just a tool in the coding process). This will not be easy or sufficient due to the current limited scientific and technological capabilities, but it is just a first step that may reveal an important activity. . (Brainstem doesn’t play a main role suddenly, it’s probably at the early stages The process of embryo development).

  • @Anin-oe4jh
    @Anin-oe4jh5 ай бұрын

    He is working on imitating human thoughts (thievery as patchwork techniques),

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    33:35 that’s completely wrong!

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    32:50 that’s completely wrong, fear is built-in characteristic that belongs directly to self concept, it’s essential characteristic for survival, if you don’t have fear then your chance to survive is very low especially among other predators or dangerous natural catastrophic events,….etc

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    That’s funny! There’s a huge difference between Data and Information, data is everywhere but information is the result of giving meaning to data (through processing and analysing data), and that never takes place miraculously!

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    panpsychism is the best road towards Hallucinations! Go ahead!

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    36:30 that’s wrong too, social behaviours related to personal identity, they rooted in self concept but it’s better to attribute it to personal identity.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    This planet of the apes and there are those who abused the irrationals badly since thousands of years ago.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    They know nothing valuable! It’s sophistry resulted from the lack of understanding and ignorance.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    28:00 that is nonsense. It’s not possible to go into details, but personal identity is not self concept itself, it’s just a kind of simulation of self concept generated by self concept itself. what they said is completely wrong and patchwork techniques can’t help them.

  • @aminam9201
    @aminam92015 ай бұрын

    58:00 consciousness is very simple?! This man is very simple! consciousness is the most important scientific secret ever! it needs real rational intelligent entities, continuous scientific hard work that could take up to thousands of years, cooperations, very advanced physics, mathematics, neurology, biology,….etc

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