I stopped at "600w of solar input." That's pathetic. Even the AC300 has 2400 watts solar input, which is still low in my opinion, unless you live in Arizona or something and have constant sun. It's like having a Ferrari with a 1 gallon sized gas tank.

@teuton6167

8 ай бұрын

Or a full sized gas tank, but you need to fill up the tank using an eye dropper.

@claytonyoung1351

6 ай бұрын

Same. 600w of solar input at 60v is pure trash

@theMekanik

6 ай бұрын

Agreeed Zandura does it with the same Battery Type 120/240 and DC power through the AC charge Port.

Thanks for sharing 😇

@johnnysweekends

Ай бұрын

👍🏼😀

Happy to see more competition - hopefully causes prices to fall.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Normally does. The more products available the cheaper they get.

@deadonleprechaun

8 ай бұрын

I couldn’t agree more.

@jonschlottig9584

8 ай бұрын

I think these guys just threw down the gauntlet. It may not be built as tough as some of the systems I've seen, but it seems like by far the best power station/ Solar Generator out there. Throw one in a rolling toolbox and strap a solar briefcase to it, and you're good to go.

Great tests here, Johnny! Enjoyed the video and thanks for keeping up with the latest tech in battery reviews!

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Thanks Jason, the tech just keeps getting better. Imagine 5 years!!!!

Was liking the Yoshino until hearing the unit can only handle 600 watts of solar input. Also, the rather low lifetime charge cycles leaves a lot to be desired, especially compared to the competition.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Agree..👍🏼

@benniewalker312

8 ай бұрын

I Couldn’t get past the $3300 price tag. Love the idea of solid state. It’s not perfect yet. But for $3300 usd I would get a ECO FLOW Pro.

@__WJK__

7 ай бұрын

@@benniewalker312 - $3K+ is steep but curious to see how the B4000 performs WITH one of the expansion modules attached...rumor has it...when an expansion battery is added, the Yoshino B4000 will accept 1000W of solar(?)

@johnnysweekends

7 ай бұрын

@__WJK__ we will see if this is true….but yea that would be more reasonable.

Thank you for another in depth and detailed review. I'm still learning! 👍🇺🇸

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

No problem, and yea so much info and these are only getting more and more powerful. Thanks for checking it out 👊🏼😀👍🏼

Got an AC200Max + 2 x B230 expansion batteries (so about 6144Wh of storage) and about 2.2KW of solar myself. I think it would be nice if a lot of these vendors allowed for the solar input to be significantly higher than the output wattage. (e.g. If you're offering a 4KW output, the solar input should be double that) Based on the premise of having 8-10 hours of sunlight but a 4000w output (in this case), so with this unit you'd never be able to even keep up with the AC output and charge the unit. (not even considering efficiency losses in the inverter) Not picking on this brand, just an observation of most power stations out there at the moment and something I'd like to see.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

I agree Liam, I wish companies would ask more of us content creators or people who specialize in this stuff, about getting our input. Now not everyone will need crazy solar input because 2000 watts is a lot for the average person. Most use DIY people if we had space would go as high as we could….WHERE IS MY MEGA WATT??? !!! 😂 But yes higher input voltage and for a higher solar charge rate would be great 😀👍🏼

@liamdrew7548

8 ай бұрын

@johnnysweekends agreed 👏 give us more solar ⚡️☀️ really appreciate your videos as well, the more knowledge is out there the better 😀

@seniorslaphead8336

8 ай бұрын

I bought the Max with a view to expanding it when the battery price went down. Unfortunately Bluetti have kept the price of the expansion batteries very high. Ludicrously high... you can currently get an AC200p for £100 less than an expansion battery with the same storage and the redundancy of having all the duplicated electronics. From a marketting point of view it's braindead.

@__WJK__

7 ай бұрын

Rumor has it, when an expansion battery is added to the Yoshino B4000, the unit will accept 1000W of solar.

@johnnysweekends

5 ай бұрын

@user-hh6ex9md4w dude ,,,,you need to stop. If i see this again Ill make a dedicated video on Segway just spamming tons of channels and poor sales tactics your using. You have done this on my channel constantly and my friends channels and more. Segway is nothing special in this department.

Great video, I just ordered one with solar panels. I’m very excited to use it with our motorhome in 2024

@johnnysweekends

6 ай бұрын

Awesome!! Did you use my discount code to save some money..😀👍🏼 there are sales

Very impressed with the Yoshino power station. I'll be interested in your long term testing as you've done with the EcoFlow. Another informative and interesting review! Thanks!

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Charles. Dude …..love the Name…CK…..😀😉

This pack looks pretty cool but I had a horrible experience with ecco flow customer service, and two separate packs that died on me in less than a month so I'm building my own battery pack. Because if something breaks I can just replace a part inside and not have to worry about all the headaches involved with dealing with the manufacturers of these packs, not to mention I can get a way better system setup for the price of one of these high priced packs

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

DIY will also net a bigger unit for cheaper. Most people do not want to build anything so they would rather buy it built

I love everything about this unit…BUT, the solar input. Complete show stopper on buying it.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Yea, 1000 watts would have been more ideal. Not that everyone will need that much, but 600 is a little low.

@heart4Pahoa

8 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends It’s more about the ratio of input to output. 600W is fine for 1K max output device, but this is like using a Hydro Flask for fuel cell in a 68 Camaro.

Only thing I like about it is it's power output and smaller draw overnight but that's about it.

Good review, the only thing i would change and its the same as you Johnny is the solar input voltage. Its way too low for a powerful unit like this IMO.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Agree Manny these big units need more solar in so they can charge quicker or support the load and no drain during the day. 👍🏼

@mannyfragoza9652

8 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends 👍

@victorhopper6774

6 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends at least half of the drain potential. if it had a 2000 watt solar charge i would buy but i am not paying that much for something that can only produce 50 cents worth of electric a day. not interested in a 20 year break even point.

Enjoyed the video Johnny. Not sold on the Yoshino. It does me no good that it has 4000W of output and yet with the measly input from solar charging the unit is very limiting , to where depending on the time of year, your solar peak hours may average 4 to 6 hours of charging . It would be nice if it had at least 2 dual solar charging ports. I know the discharge test was above average, but I was not impressed with the efficiency it had when connected to your refrigerator. At that point the efficiency was 71%. I have the first generation Delta Max 2000 that provides better efficiency when running my 26cuft fridge that is very old.

@johnnysweekends

5 күн бұрын

Unfortunately the killer of this unit is the solar input for sure. It does perform well though. The new expandable battery that I thought would be out already doubles solar input. So that does help. Although they are taking so much time and the way the market is moving this will have to come down in price in order to consider it unfortunately.

@shelley131

5 күн бұрын

@@johnnysweekends I think the one that is impressive is the Ugreen 2200.

@johnnysweekends

4 күн бұрын

@shelley131 that is such a good unit and at a really good price. Although I’m not sure now if they are gonna continue that model or even make the extra batts… been silent 🫤

It seems that the Li-NMC batteries are better in terms of charge density and cold-weather charging, but LiFePO4 batteries are still better in terms of stability (low fire risk) and number of charge cycles.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Lithium Ion is more energy dense especially when solid state. And they are the safest of lithium batteries even more so of LiFePho4. Solid state doesn’t have a liquid electrolyte so even if punctured they dont burn up unlike lithium iron will.

Just bought the B2000, love it!

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Nice. I think the b2000 is a nice unit. Good power for the size

2:39 Light might have been better as a physical button since if you need light, you probably don't have light to find a flat light indicator.

This is so cool

For the price of Yoshino I can buy any other brand and two extra extension batteries that will last way more than Yoshino can. Not underestimating Yoshino but the price is an instant deal killer.

I'm mostly curious to see how the battery tech works over time. But thanks for an early look-see.

@johnnysweekends

3 ай бұрын

Wait till you see whats coming! Mid late summer I think

@johnnysweekends

3 ай бұрын

Wait till you see whats coming! Mid late summer I think

@johnnysweekends

3 ай бұрын

Wait till you see whats coming! Mid late summer I think

It’s cool but the price puts it out of my league. Hard to beat the lithium cell prices right now. You can buy a complete solar system and twice the wh of lithium for that

I bought the AC 200 max when it first came out in the UK at what was a reasonable price at the time. A friend of mine bought the AC200p which is the same in many respects including the size of the battery when it was on "sale" earlier this year (Bluetti always has a "sale" on... if there wasn't a public holiday they'd do a sale because of the phase of the moon or because an employee had a birthday...). Interestingly the AC200p is currently HEAVILY discounted... I think they may be discontinuing the model and are therefore getting rid of the stock. It's a steal at £1100 (probably the same or less in $).

Ouch. How much ??? I'll stick with a pair of new Monteks . 1200w solar up to 150v and US customers can rig them up for 240v. Much better value too and proven 24 hour customer service responses 👍

@johnnysweekends

Ай бұрын

Do you work for the company ?

This is good news, EcoFlow customer service is just like Blueetti if it’s defective you’re on your own.

@__WJK__

8 ай бұрын

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Wondering if this type of battery suffers oxidation or other detrimental effects like Li-Ion when kept fully charged? What about long-term discharge- does it happen? Can you solar charge it while also using the AC outlets?

@johnnysweekends

6 ай бұрын

Lifepho and semi solid state are not supposed to have as much battery degradation as just plan Li ion. But they all suffer from it eventually Yes solar charging can be had with ac on.

Good review, as always. For those of us who went with an Ecoflow product, that unit isn’t enough to sway us, probably. I’m using my Delta Pro everyday now to power my Keurig and some other things. Question: Is it bad to recharge to full capacity every day (solar) from 85-90% or should I let it get to 10-20% before recharging? Thanks, Johnny! Lots more sunshine down here in S. Oregon than up in the PDX area!

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Yea the unit has some potential for sure . More solar input definitely needed. And yea the DP is a unique unit for sure. As for charging the sweet spot would be to set charge and discharge limits to 20%-80%. Kinda like the Chevy volt and more they run the batteries in the middle to make them last.Z but very two or 3 months do two, complete charge and discharge cycles to recalibrate the bms. Now you could do 100% to 0 if you wanted but you’ll hit that 80% soc rate a little sooner. But still if they truly last 10 years till there, use them up. Don’t let them sit. That’s waisting money

@SaabAholic

8 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends Thanks! Duly noted! Retirement is awesome, by the way! 🤠👍🏻🍺

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

@SaabAholic No problem Jeff, and im sure you earned it. !! And yes more sun in that area. Your almost in prime zone…lol

@SaabAholic

8 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends 😎👍🏻

@mcarling6495

8 ай бұрын

To maximize battery life, keep it as near to 50% SoC as possible as often as possible. Where to set your minimum and maximum limits depends on how much power one needs to draw daily compared to the capacity of the system.

60V maximum PV input voltage is dreadful. For comparison, the Hysolis Apollo 5K has a maximum PV input voltage of 500V. High PV voltage is important because it allows for lower current, which dramatically improves efficiency.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Your comparing a $5000 unit with a $3000 unit…🤷🏼‍♂️ Might as well look into bluetti ac300 or ac500 or several other units or other setups for $5000 dollars. Not apples to apples

As always it comes down to price, and the solar limited to 600 is not enough!

QUESTION: Once out of power over night, if connected to solar panels, will it auto power on the AC outlets, once it has sufficient power from solar panels after sun is available?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

I don’t remember in the specs if it could. I do t think so but I honestly didn’t check..🤦🏼‍♂️

I like what i see but ill be waiting for this to run the gauntlet of other channels who test these out just to get differing opions but i do lime how COMPACT and yet POWERFULL! Waiting for discount codes?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Will be curious to see other test results myself. But if they do firmware updates it may change the results as normally most units get better over time. Who do you watch for tech channels ?

@samog777

8 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends The oldest and the 👑 of solar generator testing is Hobotech! He puts the gens through a tough battery of tests and as a result i e purchased about $5,000 in Various SoGens!!! He has a Bazillion subs so thats a good place to advertise your product!👍😚😉

Nice video! Non-starter for me. Waaayyy to little solar MPPT capability--IMO a mismatch of tech, but the other features are great. From a D-pro (x2) owner this would not be an upgrade. There's a niche for this I'm certain though. I hope you can pass that back to Yoshino. -BTW, A very Japanese sounding name, but made in....?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Thanks Bruce. Yea wish solar was a little higher. Japanese batteries and a couple other components I believe and then made in china. But that’s everything it seems 🤷🏼‍♂️

Watched this again - so it says "pure sine wave" on the two AC plugs - when you plugged into your 5th wheel as "house battery" are all the AC plugs able to be used? Have to think the answer is yes, d/t your comment about using microwave, but can you confirm that for me?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Yes this unit like the delta pro act as a generator or basically shore power. The transfer doesn’t know the difference. So I can run everything in the Rv like normal, 👍🏼

Just curious as the advantage for solid state ? I mean it still weight more than the Delta which is Lifepo4(yes I know it has a little more capacity) and the life cycle is less than Lifepo4. It's downfall is the >$1 per watt hour. Most unit can be had for

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Much much safer over all for thermal runaway and puncture and also more power per pound. Even though it was more weight it has more power and more watt hours so essentially it’s lighter

I’m considering buying a power station to back up my home and a additional expandable battery is a must. Will Yoshino ever offer one?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Yes as said in the video….plus they said it will be limitless on expansion

Solid State is the next platform.....Yoshino seems on track to be competitive with current leaders. Lighter weight, better price point per performance....Keep watching

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

I think a couple tweaks and this could be a big contender

If they could use the smartlink port to place an adapter that gives 48 volt 30A output........... that would make me very happy

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

It would be nice if they did make it multi functional

I like the light. You know the first concern in a power outage illumination or light. I'd order one but they don't ship to certain states. It's so unfair. I would order this unit now if I could I will try again..

@johnnysweekends

6 ай бұрын

That’s odd I don’t know why they wouldn’t ship it wverywjere

@waimeaguyz9074

6 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekendssomething to do with the lipo batteries. But I'd order this one now if I could.

@johnnysweekends

6 ай бұрын

@waimeaguyz9074 so when you click on the Amazon link it says will not ship to your state? amzn.to/3usfYef

@waimeaguyz9074

6 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekendsAmazon doesn't even sell it.

@johnnysweekends

6 ай бұрын

@waimeaguyz9074 the link I shared said buy now..🤷🏼‍♂️

Would it harm or impede the efficiency of the ecoflow delta pro to have it in a unheated garage where things may get cold enough to freeze or would it be better to put it in the house?

@johnnysweekends

7 ай бұрын

Any power station or battery will do better in controlled conditions such as a 70 degree garage. You can still use these in harsh environments but charging at 32F and below is not possible till the unit warms up again and obviously over temp in extreme hot will cause problems as well. If you can keep it warmer that would be better. Some people use dc warmer blankets like heat pads for batteries and more. Cost is cheap and power draw is reasonable. I think some are thermostat controlled as well

@A.C.71

7 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends I see. Ty

Which one do you think is the best I am getting to run a box truck tiny house and going to need a bad setup. ......?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

It really depends on space, budget, power output, how much solar you want to run in and more. So many variables you’ll have to find the pros and cons. I can say this is very efficient

Is it UPS or EPS? Major difference between the two for the intended use cases

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

UPS for this unit.

I am not sure what the use case is for a portable power station to need more than 600w solar! Can someone explain to me the scenario where you have 600w solar mobile pleas.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Most people probably won’t need more than about 600. Even camper vans our limited with roof space so 600-800 may be all they get. And that would be fine. I run 2000 watts on my Rv. But I also went extreme to also be able to test things as well.

Looks interesting but I'm concerned about the 2500 Cycles vs. Delta Pro is around 6500. I know these are some "numbers" but a head to head comparison would be great so there can be apples to apples comparison...especially regarding the cycles to expect before degrading?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Well you have to consider these are estimates and also 6500 for delta pro is to 50% soc and 3000 to 80%. And again estimates. It could be worse or better for each model. Solid state will be more common

@leny7829

8 ай бұрын

​@@johnnysweekends I know it is estimates in ideal conditions but thanks for explaining that the 6500 cycles is to the 50% level whereas "only" 3000 to the 80% level. That's important information as now seems comparable as for this criteria in deciding between Ecoflow v. Yoshino. The sales puffing of the 6500 would distract newbies like me so if you do make a head to head comparison, that'll be a good thing to point out. Solid state does seem like the future. Just purchased a computer with a solid state hard drive as my old spinning hard drive crashed on me. It would also be nice if you can comment if this MIGHT qualify for the 30% tax credit lit the Ecoflow is saying.

@mrs.c5471

8 ай бұрын

I’m confused, when you were testing the blow dryer you said you had disconnected the PS from the RV, yet your sine wave tester appeared to be plugged in to the RV?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

@mrs.c5471 so the BT4000 is still plugged into the watch dog and the RV but hair dryer is plugged in directly to the back of the BT4000 so info will still show on the oscilloscope

The yoshino is more powerful than the evoflow but only for the largest units. Why is it that tge smaller yoshino units are equally as powerful as the smaller ecoflow units like the river models for example. Maybe this is just a limitation of ssb? Im leaning towards the yoshino but id like to see more of an ecosystem with their offering and how good their cs is.

@sevsanc216

4 ай бұрын

Also why does it have less cycle life than the ecoflow. I thought ssb are supposed to have a higher life span .

@johnnysweekends

4 ай бұрын

@sevsanc216 idk. But I know he said they were being conservative on the numbers verses really blowing them out to max cycles and hoping you get that

This will sound silly - but do they give a safey test such as what happens if you was to let say damage the cells in anyway? Solid state is said to be able to be cut into and be fine, can these do that as well? If not - they're still bit of a ticking time bomb.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Most all these are tested just like a car with a bomb under the trunk. In a worst case scenario If enough damage happens, then sure the energy of gasoline or a charged battery needs to go somewhere. Not most people don’t throw there power stations around. But even a 3 foot drop and most time they are fine.

@adr2t

8 ай бұрын

​@@johnnysweekends Some solid state batteries can be drill into and be just fine or even cut. Thats why I was asking. The cause it that they dont have the same thermal run away issues. Didnt know if these also had that same properties or not. I am sure you would never test just pulling a cell and hitting it with a hammer would you ? lol

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

@adr2t yes both LFP and Solid state or even semi solid state have less chances of thermal runaway from shorts or minor damage. But anything damaged enough, well they still hav energy that needs to go somewhere. But yes over all safer.

can u charge with DCDC car alternator. charge?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

I don’t know. Some car alternators can be a little funny so it depends on the car alternator. If it can put out a Dc voltage in that range then sure. I wouldn’t see why not. But the smart ones make it more difficult I guess.

Can you run a 1000 wat led off this ? If so for how long roughly

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Yes. A 1000 watts is a 1000 watts per hour. So how ever long you leave it on that’s how watts it will use, a 1000 watts per hour

To much money can buy extra battery to get more power This is like a startup company in power station world asking more than the leaders who have track record.... only this is Solid State battery with less life cycles.... who knows how safe they are compared to LFP... if priced like $2k area would sell a lot and take sale from Ecoflow and bluetti.... but solar needs to be 1k so it charges in 2-3 hrs then this is a serious contender enough solar to charge during the day and run minisplit is what people want .... can run vans off-grid and emergency plus it's lighter than LFP

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Solid state is actually much safer. But yes to the others 👍🏼

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Are there any units that allow greater than 600 watts solar input?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Several…

I'm not sure if it's worth buying the Yoshino. The Yoshino will power the same devices that a Delta Pro will for roughly the same amount of time (I don't think that 2-3 hours more is worth the price difference). The delta pro is cheeper and will get the job done. This technology is recently coming out and will be very expensive at first but as competition grows the price will drop bit it will take a while. I think the only reason I would buy the Yoshino is because of the weight if anything because if I consider the features, the Yoshino provides less of everything. . . . it's a minimalist generator.

@AlexanderBell1847

5 ай бұрын

By the way, the Yoshimo is selling now at Home Depot for $2,500 which is the same price as Delta Pro, I think.

@johnnysweekends

5 ай бұрын

@AlexanderBell1847 interesting ill have to look and see

Can you charge a iPad with this bad boy?

@johnnysweekends

5 ай бұрын

For sure! All day

Where is that company from. Is product made in USA ?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

USA based company from what I can see, using Japanese batteries and built in China. Hardly anything is made in USA anymore 🫤

It is a nice unit but it is still not better than the Ecoflow delta pro. Mainly because I can link my delta pros together for 240v which this uint cannot do. Also the solar input is kind of dismal.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

The smart link may allow that later like the double voltage hub. I heard talks they are developing things but not sure if that’s what they were hinting at. But yea solar needs to be higher

Only thing I’m not so crazy about is the 600w 10a solar input. Pretty underwhelming for such a unit

@YoshinoPower

8 ай бұрын

As the compact size and light weight are priorities of this unit, we believe 600W solar input fits within the application of this model. Also by maintaining 60V and 600W input we are able to achieve full ETL safety certification that wouldn’t be possible otherwise.

@teuton6167

8 ай бұрын

@@YoshinoPower Thank you for the explanation. But you need to understand that few people can get the full 600 watts into this machine-as the video shows the 60 volt limit means 300-400 watts is more realistic from most solar panels. People want a solar generator that they can use and charge in one day and this one can’t. Add an expansion battery and the situation gets twice as hard to recharge. For $3,000+ dollars the public expects better solar input. Just look at the comments and you’ll see a theme on this point.

🤔👏👍

No . I'm a forklift instructor

@johnnysweekends

Ай бұрын

Ahh nice. You would be surprised how many companies disguise them selves and then promote their own products. But yea unfortunately the Yoshino has awesome tech but missed the mark on solar and the price unfortunately. They better hurry because everyone is moving fast and this unit is almost gonna be obsolete.

@off-grid-solutions

Ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends No I don't work for them🤣 I have a tiny tiny hobby channel on here to talk about the stuff I use and Montek impressed me so much that I also run a little Facebook group for Montek UK users too because I like the underdog . Sometimes the overlooked underdog blows the huge competitors out of the water but nobody knows because they are blinkered by the big two . See your comparison to the big two . Perfect example 🙂 So yes I guess I do promote Montek but not because I work for them , because I don't . More because once you've owned one you would understand 👍

@johnnysweekends

Ай бұрын

@off-grid-solutions I get it, the Montek is not a bad units and plenty of good under dogs out there.

WHAT about life cycles ? 2500+ only ? lifepo4 i think they have 5000+ ...

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

When I talked to them at the show before they were released 2500 was a conservative number they said. Which is good as it will probably do much more. Verses LiFePO4 are around 3000-3500 in most any power station. Higher in just a battery alone.

@YoshinoPower

8 ай бұрын

2500 life cycles is the equivalent of using the power station every single day for 7 years, 0-100%. Even after that length of time there will still be 80% capacity left in the battery.

Will it run a microwave oven?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Easy..👍🏼

How much is it ?

@johnnysweekends

7 ай бұрын

$3000 ish

@kavanobrien6547

7 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends WOW

THXs for the info and test. I was in the loop first day this generator was presented in Vegas and at first glance it all looked very exciting. Even so I like some of the features and the new battery tech but compared to other solar generators this is a useless piece of shºt. I hope the customers and the competition will show their MARKETING department how to design and built a good solar generator for todays world..... and I hope they will listen. I hate good technology go to waste

So not lithium iron phosphate then but NMC - (lifePo4) so wont last that long.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

I bet they last almost as long or just as long. Most companies inflate there numbers to look good and I have noticed the numbers have not gone up but down by 500 cycles or so. And they said we are being conservative at 2500. So I bet pretty equal in the long run. But its also how its used, how its charged and more that will determine its over all life. Like with anything

@janetjacks3406

8 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends I suspect they are not inflating their claims as the lithium iron phosphate batteries have basically much longer life spans, this is just a fact but I am sure reflected in the pricing. Jackery on the other hand are NMC, but obviously trade on their name so over expensive.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

@janetjacks3406 jackery has now moved the newest units to Lifepho4 Still over priced for the performance and solar input

@janetjacks3406

8 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends Oh they've moved to LifePo4, about time but as you say too expensive and I know many sensible people will not buy them.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

@janetjacks3406 I think my busy is testing the new pro 2000 unit and he’s said it’s testing pretty darn good and he’s not a jackery fan. So will see what the overall is

It's too expensive. Do they have a cheaper model under 1500?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Yea they have other models. The link in the description or comment section will take you to the main page to view

yoshino cost 3300$, ecoflow delta 2 max cost 1800. I do not understand what is the reason of this comparison....

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Size wise it’s only lightly larger. Just shows how much power out of a unit that is only a little bigger and 1.5 lbs heavier. Just advancements in tech

with cobalt ... i wouldnt want that in my house or rv ... those are also in the cars that catch fire ... Lifepo4 is more safe in my eyes ... eve cells or cat cells ...

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Solid state is actually way safer. Hence this new tech coming to power stations is really cool. But most of the items you have used and still do have a NMC battery.

Price?

@claycassin8437

8 ай бұрын

No telling. The link in the description is dead. And I'm too lazy to google it myself, as I am in no danger of buying one until it has been fully vetted.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Dennis your right ….I didn’t even mention it. I have added to description and comment link soon as well. $3299 same as when DP started

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Didn’t know the link didn’t work thanks for letting me know. $3299 for this model

Too expensive. Better get the Ecoflow

Whats with the marketing of calling these battery units generators? They arent self generating anything...

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

It was a bad name that seems to have stuck. Hence most of use reviewers call them power stations. It’s a box that has stored power lol

I became completely disinterested once he said 600 watts of solar input

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Yea it would be nice for 1000 watt minimum.

Good to supplement a gas generator. Can't run ac all day on batteries. Lol.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Yea gas generators are not gone yet. But I can run Ac all day with my setup…all night? Well not quite yet if it stayed on the whole time. That’s a lot of battery.

@lancedooley7558

8 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends I think they compliment each other. Its sad though that they are forcing companies not to be free market and forcing generators out. Just my opinion. Great video and a lot of technical data.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Thank you, yea the Ecoflow setup with the smart gen is a good concept and works pretty well. Some changes definitely would be nice. But more companies come to market better the pricing will get

That wave doesn't seem as clean as other videos I've seen. Maybe it's just you hage a higher quality oscilloscope?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Which one the Delta pro wave or the Yoshino ..?

@mattjudd5275

8 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends the Yoshino. Does it seem the same to you?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

@mattjudd5275 the Yoshino has a very good wave at full power. And a allowable amount of distortion. The Yoshino tested well over all for efficiency and power but the lower solar input and no ac and dc charging kind of lacks. The ac and dc charging can be fixed in a firmware update im sure. But the solar input will remain

It's too expensive for what it's. it can't compete with Ecoflow or Bluetti

$$$$ 🤔

Calling it a "solar generator" is quite the oxymoron indeed. The sun is generating the power being sent into the "generator", so it's not "generating" power at all, merely storing it and passing it along to your devices, etc. "It's a solar generator!" "So it generates sunlight?"

@johnnysweekends

7 ай бұрын

Solar generators is a search term. And a poor name giving to these. Hence i dont say solar generator in the video anywhere as its a power station. It just stores energy generated by solar panels that you connected to it. Or stored from another power source like AC from the grid

not a genrator is only stores power it doesnt creat it..

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Notice I didn’t once say generator. Right at the start I say power station. It’s a horrible title they have these. The laymen people call them that. The experienced know they don’t generate anything they just store power ready for use. 👍🏼

i pooed

You got 89% capacity? That's a fail.

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

lol you have much to learn, as that’s better then just about any of them in this size.

@ekoms108

8 ай бұрын

@@johnnysweekends what kind of response is that? I actually forgot u were using the inverter for that test, so I guess u never did test the battery capacity then?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

It’s not a fail if you compare many other models. The tests are in the video, multiple. So just wondering how do you come to that conclusion?

It's not solid state, does not have solid electrolyte. Large SS cells for this kind of application do not yet exist. If you claim it is, you know nothing about battery tech and have no business doing reviews and spreading false information. At best, it's uses hybrid battery cells, but more likely they're lithium polymer pouch cells. If you really want to do a proper review, tear it down and check the cells. Who makes them? What battery chemistry is used? Will Proust did a teardown of a similar "solar generator" with similar specs and false SS claims. It did not go well... This is probably the same Chinese company with a new name and new design but same cells and same false claims.

@johnnysweekends

7 ай бұрын

It’s Will Prowse. Yes I saw the review. I will check to confirm but I did ask as they use batteries from Japan

Does anyone else have a feeling that this presentation seems biased? Even paid? What qualifications does this KZreadr have to recommend anything electronic?

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

Which part or could you better explain why you think it’s biased? Just fyi the items are sent for me to test . I run several tests give facts of what it does and doesn’t and what I like and don’t. Curious on your thoughts

@peterryan7340

8 ай бұрын

@johnnysweekends Yes, I can. 1. You lead us to believe that this is apparently a solid state battery but looks like a slightly modified NMC. 2. You provide little to no discharge data at any C Rate. 3. You provide little to not recharging rates. 4. You obviously have a little knowledge about oscilloscopes and ask us as viewers to help. 5. You then tell a viewer that his opinion is rubbish about the Apollo 5K

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

@peterryan7340 1. It’s a solid state battery per what the company states and from what we saw at the show in Vegas. Would they lie..? Not sure how you could determine it was nmc unless I took the unit apart. Maybe you should talk to them if you want exact clarification on that. 2. I provided one real life scenario for discharge rate or expected run time in a power outage. I then did a full discharge test at almost the exact test temp of 77F at the specified C rate. Did you even watch the video ? 3. I did not do recharge rates as many people typically dont as its not as useful data for most and most people move on from it so its waisted time and effort. 4. I have more knowledge on oscilloscopes then most people but not as much as a pro user who uses them every single day. Like you there are people who know way more than you and way less. So when it comes to these scopes I know more than the average but still learning as these are not something you learn in a year or two. Hence if there is a pro user watching I would love that input. Hence this is how you seek knowledge. Verse making assumptions on ones actions. 5. Why would I even discuss a nonsense comment? Let’s discuss something that is $5000 verses something that is $3000..?? Not exactly apples to apples at all is it? So how would you even compare the two. Nonsense comments will receive one in return if I have time. My 5kw battery is better than your 2.5kw battery. See how that looks. The Apollo is fine, but put a unit up against it that is close in specs or at least price. I hope this helps clear some things up for you.

You are wrong. The best solar generator is the new hysolis Apollo 5k , you can’t even compare this garbage with the hysolis .

@johnnysweekends

8 ай бұрын

My Diesel truck is better than your half ton truck. Your half ton is garbage…………now go think about your comment.

Junky

60 volt and only 10amp with 600 watt limit is way too small