The cost of these per Kw-h is ASTRONOMICAL. Their website says $4100 for one 100 watt turbine with mounting hardware. These cost 10x more than they should for what they are. You can buy a 150 watt VAT for less than $400. With another few hundred for an inverter. You can buy several kw turbine systems with the grid tie inverter for the same cost as this thing.

@zepsujtosam07

8 ай бұрын

Amen

@davidbroadfoot1864

8 ай бұрын

And it comes with a bullshit spiel. He said that you have to factor in replacement costs because solar systems only last 10-30 years, while his turbines last 30 years. Well, that is a replacement cost to factor in.

"It doesn't depend on the weather"..😅 actually, it does!

Replacing solar PV panels "every 10 to 20 years" would apply only to the lowest quality panels. The higher end panels carry a warranty of 25 years with an additional 90+% performance warranty. Many panel brands last 30+ years. Moreover, they are now recycling PV panels and recovering their materials for reuse. This is not to say this wind turbine isn't worth it, especially if its price outcompetes gas or grid hydro, but it could be limited to a supplementary role mainly used during dark winters and nighttime. The video states that solar PV takes a lot of room, well so what? Roofs are ideal anyway and offer pre-existing structural support. 'Agrivoltaics' is a new term and refers to the complementary roles solar arrays and crops can play when panels are raised up and medium shade tolerant crops are planted. Some panels are coming onstream with more clear area per panel to allow sunlight to pass through. The plants below also keep the panels cooler. Some solar-farming practices also allow greater space between panel arrays for lines of crops that can be harvested by tractor-based machinery. Net metering profit works only when the grid credits each kWh equal with or more than the grid charges per kWh., all above the cost of installing the system on a per kWh basis over time. As always, today's battery technology is advancing very quickly and should be considered as part of any renewable energy system.

The concept is excellent. It should be possible for other companies to manufacture such turbines at substantially reduced cost. This is a design approach that has been around for a long time. Indeed I have seen similar home constructed versions that were made in the the 70s

@user-hh6ex9md4w

6 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your thoughts! It's fascinating to see how this wind turbine design has been around for decades. Innovation often leads to more affordable options, and I believe the same could happen with this Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. With its impressive capacity, powerful output, and fast recharging capabilities, it seems like a reliable choice for outdoor enthusiasts and those looking for a home backup power solution.

I see this as potentially complementary system to solar system on most areas. The average wind on most living areas it's under the minimum requirements for an efficient ROI. This vawt type combines the drag type with the lift type of the turbine which could improve the drag flows but still limited. The hawt principle is still more efficient. Good idea but, with all the respect it looks over claimed. Thank you for the insight!

Excellent

The ice wind turbine seems to have many more pluses than negatives at last a good design and noise output!

General problem of small wind turbines: Too less wind near the ground, too less wind in built-up areas. Too less workload. Too high price per nominal power. And the Icewind turbine is no exception of this "rules". 25 mph wind for nominal power: You won't have many hours of this wind speed per year at average sites and near the ground. Typically less than hours of sunshine. And by the way: There is an older debunking-video for the Icewind turbine from "Grid Ops".

@TheChzoronzon

8 ай бұрын

This channel is a shame... ey, give my heart!!

Thank you from French Polynesia 😊

Amazing! I've been tinkering with ideas like this for a long time. Way to make the world a better place!

Hi. Thanks for sharing.

If the producer of this video gave the price per watt hour in the first 10 seconds, 99.9% of people would turn it off! Far too expensive for what it is!

Combination of solar, wind, and batteries would be good. Can't see why it needs to be an either/or situation. Places in Australia that have solar are also on the main network.

@101mazz

8 ай бұрын

Solar causes as much toxic waste with the panels as they prevent. Until they fix the non-recyclable materials they are only a feel good or emergency alternative to other energy sources.

Wonderful ..,

Good imformation

The price will have to come down a bit before I am interested. I like the idea.

The birds killed by windmills is way overstated. Out of the various man made causes the vast majority of the deaths are collisions with vehicles, buildings, and utility lines from what I've read.

@DomingoDeSantaClara

8 ай бұрын

Windmills went out of use over a hundred years ago, nowadays its wind turbines.😉

@joewoodchuck3824

8 ай бұрын

@@DomingoDeSantaClara Yeah, whatever. Capturing wind energy for use is all the same. New name, same game. 😁

Very good

fajne rozwiazanie takie może trafić pod strzechy 👍👍👍

1. If you buy electricity for .15 you sure as hell don't sell it back to the provider for the same price. You'd be lucky to get .05 2. 25mph wind is a lot to ask to produce such a small amount of power. I really don't get why such a high price point either.

@getinthespace7715

8 ай бұрын

They cost 10x more than they should. You can buy a higher output VAT for $400 ith a couple hundred extra for an inverter.

Another excellent idea, they would be great along freeways to keep the road surface heated underneath! The wind provided by the vehicle's themselves would work great! I have seen something similar already!😊

@peterloichtl4512

8 ай бұрын

All that glitters is not gold.

@brandonwolfe

8 ай бұрын

@@peterloichtl4512 in this case, meaning....??

@CircuitofDoom

8 ай бұрын

Not all those who wander are lost@@brandonwolfe

@brandonwolfe

8 ай бұрын

@@CircuitofDoom more irrelevant bs.

@CircuitofDoom

8 ай бұрын

He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom.@@brandonwolfe

I personally would like to see a home system that includes, wind, solar and Hydro power generation. Was hoping the Tesla system would have this, but it doesn't. However, I still believe their system could still end up being more of a money maker than their cars. If you have a dual battery system, you could charge one battery while using the other. Most systems count on generating enough electricity via solar panels to run the house and charge the battery at the same time during the day and then use the batteries at night. With just the addition of wind, you could continue charging, as long as the wind is blowing. Hydro, would be the 3rd charging method and for most people, (those that don't have a stream), would involve a hydro battery. Hydro batteries are basically water towers, they fill the tank up using the solar panels during times of excess capacity and the water is held until it is needed. If an extra charge is needed, the stored water is slowly released and uses gravity to generate the force to turn a small turbine. If you happen to have a stream on your property, then the tower isn't needed and hydro may be your second option ahead of wind, since it would be more consistent. Anyway, good to see the innovation on the wind turbines, enjoyed the video.

I like it. Thinking about getting one of those. It look like a tree. I’ll just have to check it out. Blessings.

This is a Small turbine. They could make a much larger version with progressively smaller turbines nested inside inside for a combined effect in the same footprint.. Using extremely lightweight, but strong materials would result in increased spin. The ideal placements could take advantage of wind coming off a mountain range or daily onshore/offshore winds from the coastline.

@_jasonj_

8 ай бұрын

Turbine inception?

I’ve never seen a vertical wind turbine for sale. Ever

This style should also be easier to lock down in extreme wind conditions

Been following you folks for a while . We have lots and lots of wind! Would love to see what a couple of turbines could do! Every time the wind gets up I feel like we're losing money!

Not dependent on weather? Output is how much with 25 mph wind? Solar pv panels have an 80% output guarantee after 25 or 30 years. Why would they need to be replaced every 10?

@alexandru-ilea

8 ай бұрын

True, this sounds more like an add than a real comparison.

The ridgeblade is my favorite at the moment. 👊

@tomkelly8827

8 ай бұрын

Ya, mine too. it seems like you only need smaller blades and get more power if you let the roof and walls funnel that wind right to your turbine

Excelente mundial

200 watts at 25 mph, good luck with that !

The CW series has not entered the mass manufacturing process and is currently not available. We are aiming to get it to mass manufacturing by the end of 2024. We are transitioning to Gen2 turbines this year with upgraded materials (more carbon fiber) and new generators and electronics. We will release a new datasheet once the trials are completed. We are in the micro turbines business, they range from 100W-600W @ 10m/s with a maximum output of 5000W in high winds. Estimated price for the RW600 will be around 8000USD. Grid tie electronics are usually around 3000USD. ??????? This is not serious.

They must export these Wind Turbines to South Africa. We need these types of stuff urgently! 😆

@TheYaziman

8 ай бұрын

these gadgets are not good for south Africa at all! They are destined for a minority of people living in swiss alps, Austria , luxumburg and Liechenstein.

Defo should be promoted to have this with solar and storage, not as an alternative. Wind and solar is intermittent but together with adequate storage could power a residential property every day of the year. Even in the center of the UK which has lots of cloudy days and unpredictable,multi directional wind speeds. Saying a technology is better than its rivals when both only work in certain weather conditions is dumb.

Too expensive for me. It looks very good though.

We can use the Icewind invention in our tropical island of Puerto Rico. Looking forward…

@fladave99

8 ай бұрын

Its all nonesense. I will be COAL or CANDLES. THATS REALITY Green energy is LESS than 3% in most areas. Thats 10 minutes a day. Its has TRIPLED the rates. How does anythin that has NOTHING TO DO with fossil fuels, increase the rates of fossil fuels while at the same time promise to save the earth with a tech that produces NOTHING BUT BRIBES AND KICKBACKS FOR POLITICIANS!!! Any fool can see what is going on

Solar is still the more cost effective solution. Just finding someone that doesnt charge insane upcharge on install is the hard part.

I have been following this company for years, they dont offer anything beneficial as far as I can tell. You will pay far too much money and you will have tiny power. Solar is so much better and probably 10X cheaper

It sounds more like an infomercial!

Still haven't established makers of horizontal windpower tested toroidal rotor of scale!

0:50 like a WHAT! 🤣

OBRA MAESTRA

I want one, thanks.

Need one to install

Every mechanical system wears, and the bearings have a definite life so this turbine will have a defined life and if constantly buffeted by disruptive winds then is life may be shortened, so may not live out a solar panel. But that is said this I think it is a good product, only that the commentary borders on the truth. Just like you car it may need new wheel bearings if it driven hard, and just like solar panels needing regular cleaning, your turbine will need regular inspection and maintenance, especially the design that is cantilevered from base. Without a top bearing, the lower bearing will see a high deflectional load and I suspect it's working hard.

Why is it that people in general are slow in regonizing that vertical wind turbines are more efficient than bladed wind turbines? And as such will work 24/7 versus solar? Sheesh people. a few vwt's on your roof versus solar panels. Its a no brainer. Have you heard of natural up drifts over a roof? Question? What do you do when you need a new roof when you have solar panels on it?

I think better than others

"800% more Power" How is that to be understood?

@alexandru-ilea

8 ай бұрын

My thoughs exactly. It can produce 150-200 watts of power at a wind of 25 miles/hour. A washing machine uses up to 1500 watts to heat up the water. That means I will need at least 10 of this to wash my clothes lol. Our 20 KW solar system costed about 15.000 euros (so about 4-5 times the price of the freya model) but it produced between 25 kWh (day full of clouds and rain) and 120 kWh (sunny day in July) per day. It made 3000 kWh in July while this wind turbine will make 144 kWh in the best case scenario (running 24/24 for 30 days at max speed which is unreal). Sure it costed 5 times more but it produced 20 times more in July. Sure in winter the production will go down but it still will make more than I need for the daily routine.

@jussikankinen9409

8 ай бұрын

Its internet not true, just better than 100watt

Wonder if the Freya modl could be mounted on a sailboat...transom arch beyond the main sail boom.

Don't get fooled too easily. You have to change bearings no matter what they say. And wind turbines are dependant on weather conditions called WIND :-) that doesn't always blow I don't say it can't be better then previous inventions in some ways... but I would like to see independent tests first

Solar panels depend on the weather, good that wind turbines don’t. Solar panels just work and last way beyond 10 years. Sunlight is predictable, they have charts showing the annual sun exposure for where you live. Those bus stops needed 2, what does that tell you.

can be nice to have as a kit set!

What a load on nonsense. At that power output you’d need at least 5 of these to power an average home, which at their pricing is about 30-40% more expensive than equivalent PV + battery, which would be silent and have no moving parts. Oh and solar panels don’t need replacing every 10 years.

If greedy power companies weren't in the way this would already be running on the planet.

@harryw29

8 ай бұрын

Why would they be interested in a wind turbine that generates 150w for a couple of hours a year😂

Big oil and Big coal will do everything in their power to halt this technology. Count on it!

Some of the points stated here are misguiding. "Solar panels degrade over time." Everything degrades over time. Warranty generally covers 25 years for solar panels. "Wind turbines don't depend on weather". Well, no wind, no power. Neither is a substitute for the other but a good supplement. No need for bashing solars to make a point for wind turbines.

@fladave99

8 ай бұрын

Its all nonesense. I will be COAL or CANDLES. THATS REALITY Green energy is LESS than 3% in most areas. Thats 10 minutes a day. Its has TRIPLED the rates. How does anythin that has NOTHING TO DO with fossil fuels, increase the rates of fossil fuels while at the same time promise to save the earth with a tech that produces NOTHING BUT BRIBES AND KICKBACKS FOR POLITICIANS!!! Any fool can see what is going on

Where to buy that in the Philippines?can be stop if ther is strong wind so it will damage it

I have a goose that lays golden eggs.

needs 25mph wind and expensive. Good product. -.-

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do you think the cast adds flavor or this is only that it was braised?

Vertical wind turbines are better than solar panels. Why doesn't anyone seem to make affordable ones that people can simple plug in and place in their back yards. I've looked, I can't find any.

I like it. I already got ev panels. I wonder how easy it is to run both wind and solar with my existing Tesla solar system. Will I need an additional grid inverter?

well I live in Australia and we have not had much wind or sun for the last 2 months,

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Ka-ROUS-el HAHAHA

i'm surprised I don't see any comments here from anyone in the wind energy industry. Designs like this amount to nothing but marketing to naive people. Most everything here is complete nonsense. Thousands of dollars for almost zero output, Way too small to make a difference. If you want to see what an effective wind turbine looks like, look at a windfarm. The normal design has taken 4000 years to evolve. That's why everyone uses it. :)

I live in a wind-shadow area. Most of the time it is a very light breeze - will Icewind work in those conditions?

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They need to make this for cars and vehicles and airplanes, and any vehicle even bicycles😂

What excess power are you talking about to sell? You say normally household uses 500kw per month and your product produces 120kw per month. Where is the excess to sell?

yep kids toys were they made it from and going back to it 100 watt great for led

I’m on the water on the wind is very variable, sometimes very strong.

To claim solar to have 20 years lifetime is unfair. Wind turbine have moving parts (bearing, blades etc); which needs replacement too due to material fatique, oiling of bearings etc.

You forgot to mention it's biggest "advantage" - it gives absolutely no power compared to classic horizontal turbine...

200 watts max means it would take more than ten units to produce two KW. Not too practical, is it?

No prices on the website… anyone have any idea??

Until we get a much lower cost vertical wind turbine it will be very hard to make them financially solvent.

Thirty years? THEN what, the wind STOPS????

A lot of bull shit if you ask me. So I asked AI this question: In the USA how many days a year does the wind not exceed 10 mph on average for 8 hours a day? AI: There is no definitive answer to this question, as the number of days with low wind can vary significantly from year to year and depending on the location within the USA. However, based on historical wind data, we can estimate that there are typically around 100 days per year in the USA where the average wind speed does not exceed 10 mph for 8 hours a day. Here is a breakdown of the estimated number of low-wind days per year for each region of the USA: Northeast: 120 days Midwest: 110 days South: 90 days West: 80 days That's a lot of days where a windmill sits still and you have to get a lot of power somewhere.

Can n person combine it with sun pannels

Most solar panels have 25 year warranties ? And typically last much longer

@johnwyman6126

8 ай бұрын

Some are up to 40 year warranties now. Check out the maxeon panels.

Is payback considering opportunity cost?

Where can I buy this? Tnx

*All practical tests show that small wind turbines hardly generate any electricity - and only at costs very significantly above 1€/kWh!* There is hardly any wind near the ground, and it is also very gusty, which extremely reduces the service life of the systems. *With solar systems, you can reliably generate electricity for about 8-12 cents/kWh over a period of 25 years!*

Brand of vertical wind turbine doesn't matter for US residents as our government agencies will Not allow permanent public use.

Berapa harga satuannya /unit di jual.

If these are manufactured in large numbers in say India, the costs will be down to 1/3 of the cost or even lesser

Yeah 25mph is about 11m/s. In Urban settings this will be hard to achieve. And 150-200W that is xD...that is NOTHING! This video twists the reallity when compairing Wind and Solar power. Both of them needs a storage system in order to work optimal. They both have skittish sources. This is the second video i've seen from this channel, and it is VERY commercial/propagada infused. Don't get me wrong i'm very pro-wind and solar solutions, but it needs way more development before it can be considered a viable solution for urban usage, when compairing with solar. GO CHECK their video description!!! It gives a very clear image of what this channel is!

Iam a filipino leave n the Philippines My own bill in electricity in every month the consuming bill is P 300.00 while the price of Ice turbine is $ 3,200 equivalent to P 179.200 Philippines money. keep in my mind that per month Im consume P 300. electric bill therefore in one year is P 3.600 expenses or paid electric bill. but the price of ice turbine equivalent to Philippines money is P 179.200 therefore price loss in 10 years The paid electric bill is P36.000 in 4 decade is P1444.000 Philippines money versus the price of ice turbine is P 179.200 in Philippine money exchange The price is loss how could be a favor to the buyer , another point if there is no Air or wind there is no electricity produce While the electric company in 24 hours they give continuously electricity in every household in calculation the price is not in favor of ous , and third if there is a strong wind which called typhoon or huricane or either thunder storm the Equipment will be destroyed or ruined even there is no calamities still no benifit

So why don’t Utilities use instead of the standard big propeller??? Think folks!

Two pigeons as a wildlife example. Lol.

So pleased with your idea and wondering how can I get one.l live in Kenya thanks

@harryw29

8 ай бұрын

Conventional wind turbines are far more cost effective. You must have ones available in Kenya. But solar panels will be far more reliable in the Kenyan climate

Why is the American flag upside down on that blade

$5000++ for the 1kw wind turbine is insanely expensive, makes zero sense to use it ....1kw must be under $1000 to make it even remotely interesting in any country

@jaykumarpatel05

2 ай бұрын

I am making a VAWT since last twelve years, but I got successful in making monopole of 18 feet for Vawt in 250 USD

The price....LOL

not in the UK according to the makers so dont hold your breath

Thanks for the interesting video. Would these work in Ireland?

@harryw29

8 ай бұрын

No. Irish wind is so complicated it couldn't cope with horizontal spinning. The Irish have to face things head on.

@mariconor242

8 ай бұрын

Solar PV works great in Ireland, I've 10 x 430w panels plus battery in Dublin. €9200 after the grant (which I'm still waiting for the SEAI to give me back...)

The wind is not going to blow continuously so a backup is going to be needed.

Another example of a well marketed underperforming turbine, with no innovative steps in its design. The market is full of turbines with outrageous claims, and this is no exception. I should know, as I designed turbines of many types for over 10 years and it's a really difficult technology to get right. This isn't one of them unfortunately. It will have some uses, but those will be limited.