2:28 Alpinestars Bionic 7 3:51 Asterisk Carbon Cell 1 6:59 Asterisk Ultra Cell 3.0 9:13 Mobius X8 13:14 Pod MX K4 2.0 15:50 Leatt X-Frame Hybrid 17:50 Leatt X-Frame

@jonathanreinhardt6127

2 жыл бұрын

Does the asterisk ultra cell 3.0 fit on the alpinestar tech 7?

@rmatvmc

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanreinhardt6127 It just depends on how big your calf is. My calf has a 16" circumference and I don't think I'd get the Tech 7 to buckle up with the Ultra Cell 3.0 on. That is why I really like the Carbon Cell 1. - Chase

I personally have the pod k8 2.0. I love these braces , I recently had a crash and I can tell you with 80-90% certainty that they saved my leg. During that crash I also broke my collerbone.

Awesome review as always Chase. I wear knee pads not knee braces and after this I've got a great idea about what's out there and the pros and cons. Solid.

I have hundreds of hours on the Cell 1 and the x8, the x8 is really good impact protection and less rear knee pit skin irritation, but it's not as good a lateral and twist protection as the Asterisk. This was helpful in evaluating my next set of braces, thank you Chase.

ordered k4 because all of the positive reviews. mobius did sit a bit better on me but will have more time to set ul k4 at home for my knee. also k4 is easy to repair and ks sold separately. Had ACL reconstruction surgery month ago :)

Leatt x frame has served me well, kissed the lips of many doubles and berms and my knees are in good condition. Before knee braces i would always get scrapes and cuts only to be ridiculed at work on monday morning for limping a bit

Bought the Asterisk Carbon Cell 1 and will not ride without them now. First knee brace for me, can't believe the comfort and bike control I get with these. They already paid for themselves after I bounced off a couple of trees and only got water on 1 knee, not sure if it was the impact or it twisted. Thanks for showing the tether hook up, I gotta do mine that way.

Thanks 👍

Ortema best knee brace

Gonna go with the POD K4's I need my knees to work after a spill, gotta pay the bills!

Hi chase ,wondering if you could help me make a choice ,I'm coming back from a torn lcl and looking to purchase some braces ,I tried a friend's leatt x frame hybrid but they rubbed the skin of the outside of my knees and they were the correct size , any recommendations on a comfortable brace ? The leatt were perfect in every other way .

Love my möbius braces 👍

quality jumped in this one

Regarding the Asterisk strap that you attach to your boot, that strap only protects from rotation in one direction, not from both directions. Am I thinking about this correctly? Should there be a strap going the other way to protect against rotation in the other direction? Thanks and great video!

I just like trail riding what brace would you recommend ?, typing this as I sit on my couch with a knee Injury

Iv got a set of asterisk ultra cell 3.0 on the way it will be ma first ever set of braces an can can't wait for them to come after watching all the reviews over the last god nows how many months

@Kirchert919

3 жыл бұрын

did you get it ?

I got the POD K8 2.0’s fully paid for with my insurance. FSA money to be exact. Love these braces and they fit perfectly in fox legion pants FWIW.

@rickywitherspoon2861

3 жыл бұрын

How’d you get insurance to pay?

@Mr_Eyeholes

3 жыл бұрын

@@rickywitherspoon2861 I had to pay for them up front and then send a copy of the receipt and medical device codes that POD provides to my insurance. I had to pay up front because my FSA card only works with certain retailers and Rocky Mountain ATV MC is not one of them. lol

@rickywitherspoon2861

3 жыл бұрын

@@Mr_Eyeholes Thank you! I'm going to give this a try.

Hi I'm about 5ft 6" and find the braces come too high up the thigh, what would you suggest?

Thanks for the info.JHB-SA.

thank you video. very helpful. i wish that i got one before i injured my knee. dang it.

@martincosta8375

2 жыл бұрын

Dont worry can still snap ligaments with a brace on . I snapped acl and mcl wearing braces . But if i didnt have a brace prob could have torn alot more !!

Hi! Between the two Leatts, (i'm on a budget) what do you feel is the most protective regarding impacts?

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

Personally, I would get the POD K4 2.0 if 500(ish) was my budget range. - Chase

Hi! I have used Mobius X8 for 3 years/120h of them. My worst hit on these was when dropped to 10m long/1,5m deep cravel hole doing 70 Km/h, I hit my knees against handelbars and from there to edge of that hard gravel hole. Not to mention in forest dropping on rocks and logs etc, they have offered wery good protection always, but in long days in forest, they seem to come loose sometimes and sink lower. So in search of something new, I tryed Alpinestar Bionic 7 model (wery light indeed), and I discoverd( kneeling on hardfloor)-that in Mobius, my knee is really far and strongly protected, while in Alpinestar Bionic 7, my knee was pressing directly to the knee cup protection ribs and it directly to the floor- no real patella protection-the hit will gome directly to patella-in best it just keeps your pants away..The ventilation is better, but it seems to be designed to ride in very hot climate in sand(not on rocks!) maybe... In Mobius X8, the hit is diverted around your leg in wide area, and the patella cover is really strong, and the whole front of the knee brace is one big strong (but soft from inside) area. This has made me thinking, that while Mobius sometimes feels bulky to walk, they seem to have best protection designs against hitting something hard of all of them-since all the other braces seems to focus on knee twisting protection, and protection of direct hit itsef is secondary? Can you drop(!) on your knees on hardfloor(simulating hit on knee while been thrown of the bike) on those other braces for example? Also Leatt, Asterisk, Pod, Cti braces(+mx cover) ets, they all use sometype type patella cover- can their patella cover offer protection on patella impact(And I mean not like with a soft sunflower, but with like nice Ford Fiesta)?

@fcalin21

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I am thorn between Asterix and Moebius. A like the teder system on the Asterix.

How come cti wasn't included in this list they seem to be the most popular at the local track

Do you have a review of knee protectors for non racers?

It'd be handy to have a video comparing pants and those which fit knee braces the best (with the most room).

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

To be hones with you, I don't know if a video like that is really needed. All gear manufacturers design their pants to be worn with knee guards or knee braces under them. I've ridden in just about every brand of pants we carry with knee braces on and it's never really been an issue for me. The ONLY pant I"ve ever thought needed more stretch around the knee was the O'neal airwear pants. - Chase

@fooblahblah

3 жыл бұрын

@@rmatvmc Thanks Chase. I have some Klim Mojave and they fit my Mobius, but there is some constriction around the knee. Just figured trying different pants would be cheaper than knee braces :) Cheers.

Are these braces waterproof?

Thinking of getting a knee brace for riding but would like to go for a model that works also for skiing - any take on that?

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

Personally, my favorite brace to date is the Asterisk CC1 and the PODS. I think any brace would work as long as your boots aren't too tall. I would for sure get the asterisk Zero G pants to keep them from sliding down. - Chase

Which one would you choose between the Asterisk carbon cell and Alpinestars bionic 7? Here in Sweden its hard to get the Asterisk so it would be easier to buy the Alpinestars.

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

The Alpinestars brace is a good brace. They did have some issues with durability with the hinge but they addressed that and fixed it. I would get the Asterisk given the choice but if you can get the Astars easier, I'm sure you'll be happy with them. I liked them when I rode in them. - Chase

My Alpinestar B7s literally fell to pieces in less than 60mins. On the LH brace the screws stripped out of the plastic and fell into my boot, unsafe and dangerous when you get pain in your foot from sharp screws- throws your mind off track. They were NZ$800+ and torpedo7 mt wellington where absolute pricks to deal with to get a refund but did so after about a month. Have Pod K4s now and done over 50hrs and am stoked, convinced an olmate to into getting a set of K4s he rates them too. Side note FWIW..torpedo 7 warranty manager agreed the B7 screws were a poor design problem

@DMS172

2 жыл бұрын

@@roryhamilton8915 I got my K4 2.0s from Cycletreads.. great to deal with. T7 Mt Wellington will never see me again unless its for something I will not need warranty or service for, even if it is a steal

I think I bought a set of Z frame knee braces. I like the idea, but they move around so much that I have to adjust them back while riding. Im not sure if i can't fit them right, or if they are just too cheap.

@taylorhackbart4403

3 жыл бұрын

I had this issue with the z frames as well. I got a pair of Asterisk Zero G pants, which fixed that issue. Plus increased the life of my pants.

hi Chase. thanks for the review. which ones do you think are most ventilated? I ride in Africa and it's hot the whole year around!

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

To be honest, I don't know if you'd notice a difference between breathability between any of them. I guess you could argue that mobius has the least amount of cutouts on the front. But I've never worn a brace and thought, "man, this thing is hot and doesn't breath". - Chase

@Jodab8

3 жыл бұрын

@@rmatvmc ok, great, thanks. I wear knee pads for now and that's where I feel the hottest when I ride. I'll go for the Bionic 7

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, knee pads are a different story. Knee braces, however, are open on the back and with be much better than a pad. Hope you enjoy them - Chase

Do you get any questions about snowmobile kne braces? Cause noone does rewievs for them for that side… you got any reccomendstions?

@rmatvmc

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I don't see why any of these wouldn't work for snowmobiling. If you're asking which braces I like the most, it would be the Asterisk Carbon Cell and the POD K8 2.0.

What braces would you recommend if you dont have straight shins? I've tried to fit the Leatt x braces and the outside of my knee would bind on the brace making them unbearable to wear, I tried upsizing but have the same issue.

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

The asterisk cell might be a good option since you can custom fit the shin cuff to your leg

@TRK30

3 жыл бұрын

Hey had the same problem, IDK what is with those braces, I order 2x different size because I wanted to have them, but same problem, pinching on the outside of the knee..then tried Mobius and solved it, super comfortable at the knee, the have thick soft padding.

I am in the UK and mainly ride enduro but its a mix of fast and techincal. I am really struggling to make a choice. I can really stretch to custom fit bit happy to pay for a good brace. I am 5.8 12st if that makes a difference.

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jamie. Personally, I really like the PODs or the Asterisk Carbon Cell. Those are the two braces I've liked the most. The Carbon Cell are my favorite due to how light and low profile they are. - Chase

@jamiewalker7122

3 жыл бұрын

@@rmatvmc chase thank you for the reply appreciated. Cheers buddy

i know this is an older post but here is hoping you are still getting notifications. i like the leatt hybrid but it was not mentioned how they fit under the boot. i too have large calf muscles from mtb riding so it is a concern, thanks.

@rmatvmc

Жыл бұрын

If you have large calves, then I wouldn't suggest the Leatts. Compared to the Asterisk Carbon Cell and the Alpinestars Bionic, they aren't as low profile. - Chase

Great video ! Do you offer shiiping to Mexico ?

@rmatvmc

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, but we do not ship to Mexico.

Which ones resist lateral crunching and impact forces the best? My biggest fear is my knees getting smashed.

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

For what you're talking about, I'd probably say the PODS are the strongest. - Chase

@SamIIs

3 жыл бұрын

As an example getting plowed into or having the bike fall on my knee and a large rock and walking away with a compound fracture in the protected area of the brace.

Sorta new to all this but at 50 years old we just trail ride but 3 weeks ago had a weird accident and came off the bike odd, leg went direction that its not meant to so now laid up on the couch in alot of pain in the calf and ankle, knee has stopped hurting but tender to touch. I was wearing some knee pads that Pastrana endorses, can't recall name but will these braces do much more for trail riders or these more for the motocross guys?

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

They’re for any rider. And what you explained is just what a knee brace is built to prevent. I can’t say for certain that a brace would’ve prevented your injury but It’s very likely it could have - chase

@jasonbilow2877

3 жыл бұрын

@@rmatvmc I am having a really hard time deciding on which ones to go with. Watched this video a dozens times but still cant land on one. Hard to see but do they offer knee impact support or mostly for twisting protection? Tend to land on the knees alot to. Thanks for any suggestions!

@CallsItLikeISeizeIts

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonbilow2877 I went with Mobius for most protection around knee cap IMO. You cant go wrong with any of these really. They do protect from impact as well. Expensive but not as much as knee surgery. I have fallen with bike on top of leg and felt nothing.

Hi chase, in your opinion pod k4 or möbius x8? Looking for comfort and durability

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

Man, that is a tough pick! The K4 will hold up longer, IMO, but I would probably choose the Mobius due to my big ol' calves. But both were comfortable for me. I know they're more expensive, but the Asterisk CC1s that I have now are by far my favorite brace I've had. However, I did here from a little rumor birdie that Asterisk was making another version of the CC1 with a different material for the frame to bring the price down. But I have no idea when that will be. Hope this helps - Chase

@cdelker_109

3 жыл бұрын

@@rmatvmc awesome thank you for your input, very helpful👍🏽

Chase I’m 5’7” same size calves as you, what size are you wearing in the Bionic 7? If it was my choice I’d buy the Asterisk carbon cell 1 but bionic 7 is in my price range. Thanks

@rmatvmc

9 ай бұрын

I haven't ridden in the Bionic 7, just the 10. But I wear a medium in the 10. - Chase

@NickW90

9 ай бұрын

@@rmatvmcthanks for the reply! I just bought them

what is tghe best brace for massive calves ?? lowest profile preferred

@rmatvmc

2 жыл бұрын

Asterisk Carbon Cell or the Alpinestars bionic. I have a 16 calf circumference and the Asterisks have been great! - Chase

Hi Chase, I don't have an issue with calf size and I'm about 6,2 would you go for the pod or asterisks cc3 in my situation?

I don't have a ACL in my right knee. I need a brace i can use to protect my knee when I ride. I'm 5'7" and have bird legs.

@rmatvmc

Жыл бұрын

My favorite brace is the Asterisk Carbon cell. A size small is perfect for little bird legs! Use the sizing guide, but we have another rider here who uses a small with tiny legs and he really likes them - Chase

@scottmcbride2237

Жыл бұрын

@@rmatvmc thanks for the reply and the tip. I measured my knee and I'm actually a medium. Wow. I thought for sure my bird legs was a small. They measured 14 and a quarter.

Why no EVS braces?

Wearing my x8s while watching this lol

Hello @Rocky Mountain ATV MC what is the best knee brace bellow 100 euro?

@imnotsure5267

3 жыл бұрын

Right. All I hear is 400 and up.

Pods tend to pinch the outside of my knee where my fibula tends to stick out a bit. Has anyone found a knee brace that doesn't pinch that area?

Hey know way you call me out. I am 8 months recovering on my knee injury. Im now looking for braces

@rmatvmc

2 жыл бұрын

Which ones are you interested in?

Went and looked at the bionic 7 and 10 and a set of Pod K4s. I went to my local shop in NZ that stocked Knee braces and I was less than impressed. All of these Knee braces are obscenely expensive. AND they are poorly thought out and poorly constructed for the money. I did stunts for 20 years (look me up if you don't believe me) and have worn all kinds of body armor and pads etc. I figured after all this time pads and armour would have significantly improved it hasn't. ANYWAY back to the knee braces. The Bionic 7s (in Medium) were tight around the knee and the hinge would be digging into you all day, especially if you were gripping the tank. The straps were barely long enough to do up and there is barely any velcro to hold the straps in place. AlpineStars have really stinged out on this as well as providing almost no padding. The lack of padding means all the hard edges of the brace and the buckles cut into your skin. The Bionic 10s in large (which I tried in case medium was the wrong size), have the same crap velcro. The straps on the large are way too long to get a really tight fit (padding seemed slightly better, but was still inadequate). Ultimately you float in these, so they provide no support. I also tried the Pod K4s - these were superior in almost every way to the Alpine stars, However, they still provided NO support. None of these braces (in my opinion) will prevent hyperextension of your knee or any real protection from twisting. In the shop moving my leg around it was VERY easy to hyperextend my knee and twist my knee around. They will not prevent crush damage either because they are just not that rigid. Additionally, the hinges will crush in on the sides of your knee causing extreme pain, if not significant damage. I will not be buying braces. If you are considering buying braces, make sure you buy them in a shop and have tried them on and you have had a good think about it. Basically, I think they are an expensive gimmick, poorly designed for comfort and protection. I believe they have been designed to look cool, to entice people to buy them. Don't get me started on the Alpinestar body armor I just bought (Poorly sized) and also badly designed. They'll probably afford a tiny amount of protection, but not much I think.

@babar69110

3 жыл бұрын

i wondered too about the side hinges... checking times I fall, they would have explode my knees.... :(

@VFRCapBob

2 жыл бұрын

I'm 58 and still riding because I invested in a good at the time set of braces. I tried riding without them because I hate the bulk of my old style Webb braces. Felt awesome riding without untill 2 days later when out on a walk and my knee went out. It's up to the rider to make sure they fit correctly and are adjusted properly. I agree the makers may cut corners and ad gimmick tech for marketing and profit that pure medical custom braces do not. But if like me you love to ride and walk and have a 50% greater chance of not injuring your knees in your next crash they are an essential investment.

@actstuntcam

2 жыл бұрын

@@VFRCapBob Yep, each to their own. You have to make your own decision, and I respect your right to wear them. They aren't for me. I couldn't find a pair that fit properly, were comfortable, or provided any definite benefits in terms of protection. Maybe in another 10 years if they design some that work properly AND don't cost 3 times what they should.

READ BOFORE YOU BUY ULTRA CELL 3.0! I have bought the ultra cell 3.0. The quality is great! but what really disappoints me is that you can't extend your leg fully, at all!. I know it's not good to have your leg fully extended in a crash, but not having the ability to adjust the range to be able to extend your leg, is pretty disappointing. And yes I have adjusted the adjuster to full extend.. and the amount of adjustment you have to make your leg bend more is just way too much, the max anti-extend setting seems way exaggerated. The adjustment is achieved by lengthening or shortening a small cord. What I'm speculating is that they have made a mistake by the manufacture, making this cord/String too short!

Of course the brace I was most curious about isn't included. Womp womp womp.

Can anyone pls recommend me a starter low budget knee brace?

@actstuntcam

3 жыл бұрын

Don't bother, buy a really good knee/shin pad with a good plastic shell and lots of internal padding that protrudes significantly past the edge of the pads. Make sure you wedge them in your boots to prevent them from slipping down.

Anyone bought Moto knee braces with their HSA???

@HectorGarcia-cb6vp

3 жыл бұрын

I’m about to

U better go see a doctor if ur calf if 16” in diameter!

@dormantmenace

3 жыл бұрын

That's not very big. My forearms are bigger. But I assume he ment circumference

First

@mikehd3904

3 жыл бұрын

Get a life

To much money

@gpaull2

3 жыл бұрын

You can get the Pod K8 2.0 through insurance with a DR’s prescription. Cost me exactly $0.00.

@chachfunks6906

3 жыл бұрын

It will cost you more money when you have to get knee surgery, becuz it was to much $$$. Just saying, stay safe.

@thebrothers8022

3 жыл бұрын

@@gpaull2 yeah your right, bu i dont ride hard enough for a nee brance

@dizzle86

2 жыл бұрын

@@gpaull2 how

Keep in mind guys that all of these braces will damage your graphics more often than normal. I have had graphics very damaged over time

@stevetrojano1595

3 жыл бұрын

I'll take graphics damage over the 6 weeks I just spent on crutches any day...

@tyllerhicksmx2016

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevetrojano1595 for sure man. I’m not disputing that. They have saved my knees. But I’m just making sure people are aware

@courtlandlunn9193

3 жыл бұрын

Graphics?! If you care more about a sticker than you do your knees then you shouldn’t be riding because you might break a nail.

@tyllerhicksmx2016

3 жыл бұрын

@@courtlandlunn9193 😂😂bud I don’t know what graphics you got. But for some people graphics are expensive. That’s 200 bucks down the drain or more. I am simply telling people to be mindful. And if you get on a friends bike be careful.because you can shred your buds graphics in one ride.

@Bill-es8ds

3 жыл бұрын

The only complaint, they don’t work, hope you heel up quick, next you should sell them to someone who has more money than since.good luck chase.

All are totally ridiculous overpriced. Nothing justifies this high cost....

@rmatvmc

3 жыл бұрын

Even the possibility of preventing an expensive knee injury?

@babar69110

2 жыл бұрын

@@rmatvmc 1/ No serious studies show that it saved your knees which are, by nature, natural fuses to prevent femoral fracture which is 100X worst. Captive market with a sort of collusion in between brands. Are they made of gold, planitium or pure titane ??? Is there some swiss mechanic in them to justify the cost ?? come on .. just have to wait someone breaks the market. Usual story and history :) For the cost , better pay a good training ;) In the mean time, guys ride road bikes and how many use airbags which work ? !!! and whose prices are dropping down, because, agian, it was totally overpriced decade ago. So my point is not to wear or not knee braces, it's a personnal choice. Just mention it's ridiculously expensive. If I follow your argument, electricty fuses boxes in your house should cost 400 dollars each, as they can prevent fire !!!

@babar69110

2 жыл бұрын

@@rmatvmc forgot the totally nut social medical cover in USA. Sure I would buy any product not to take a loan for 20 years just to pay what is free in europe. So, it makes sense..

These knee braces are such a joke they're cumbersome in number one they are very uncomfortable to where they come off really they should just make a hole suit of armor all in one kind of like Iron Man but plastic