4:13 This statement is not correct based on my past videos, it seems I misremembered the results, AMD has generally been warmer in the past and that continues here this generation too.

@AdamJames.

7 ай бұрын

Please do make a review about XOTIC PC G370SNW-G (X370SNW-G) Gaming Laptop

@ysnyldrm73

7 ай бұрын

Yes but ryzen and i cpu's measures different thermal levels, intel measures average thermal condition while amd meauseres highest thermal point in the chip. This two could be at same level of temperatures. SFBE.

@joelconolly5574

7 ай бұрын

It's probably how Ryzen Zen 4 performs this year. It's generally pretty toasty even in the desktop side. Good thing AMD can take the heat.

@gh2286

6 ай бұрын

try encoding with av1 codec, not h264, amd will perform much better

@aseemsayyad6478

6 ай бұрын

Probably the only reason i cant make clear stand between two of them...

Note to other youtubers: this is how benchmarking should be done.

@naren5215

7 ай бұрын

Yea best thing about Jarrod is that he has timesamps in all of his videos!

@astagadragon

7 ай бұрын

Periodt

@cameronbosch1213

7 ай бұрын

*Cough cough* Max Tech *cough cough*

@dreadlock17

7 ай бұрын

Not really. Most of the game test results show signs of gpu bound scenario

@saki3963

7 ай бұрын

​@@dreadlock17that really doesn't matter when it's a cpu test and they're using the same gpu

0:57 Jarrod: "This video wasn't cheap to make... Let's fix that!" That's probably one of the best sponsor transitions I've heard in a long time! 😂

@ruidias9628

7 ай бұрын

Yet despite being sponsored by gigabyte, it is Lenovo laptops that are featured😂😂

@to4014

7 ай бұрын

İ also like it and to support channel i watch sponsor add 2 times.

@11hitmanDagenius

7 ай бұрын

Yes your comment is probably the most entertaining comment I've read in a long time!

@killuazoldyck5468

7 ай бұрын

​@@ruidias9628fyi, Mr Jarrod has said to me before, regardless who sponsored the video he'd rather make other laptops review so he won't be bound to make fake/forced review based on the sponsor so he could make it as fair as possible

@ruidias9628

7 ай бұрын

@@killuazoldyck5468 yup that's Why I think Mr Jarrod is the man! Humble and objective, sponsor is a need but make it as it is. Wasn't bashing by any means, just an observation. That says a lot about Lenovo laptops as well as they are a staple atm with these legion slim series

Insane testing. 16 minutes, but must've taken days to go through!

@divijmehendru6206

7 ай бұрын

Absolutely incredible.

@Lynv

7 ай бұрын

I was about comment the same when scroll down Damn, insane testing.

@luisdanielmesa

7 ай бұрын

It's wasted time though, there are no confidence levels or margins of error so it's just running tests and mindlessly repeating whatever result he got from the third-party testing suite.

@TabalugaDragon

7 ай бұрын

@@luisdanielmesa third-party testing? He does tests himself. Where is your proof he gets them from third-party?

@JarrodsTech

7 ай бұрын

Thanks! It took more than a full week to work through, but we got there in the end!

It was fantastic seeing the power scaling graph at 3:52 I wish more reviewers did this! Thank you!

Only when I was wondering which cpu to pick for better gaming, Jarrod's here with their performance at 1440p in 25 games. Thank you!

This means that whichever CPU we use, we won't be bottlenecked by power nor efficiency. I guess it's better to go AMD since Intel is usually priced higher 🧐. Same power, better price.

@SkullCrusher480

7 ай бұрын

I ordered a new laptop and found that the Legion pro 5i was cheaper than the Legion 5 pro. HX vs HS processor too.

@cameronbosch1213

7 ай бұрын

AMD is harder to find this year though. The exception being the Framework Laptop 16, but that's still not shipping yet.

@kady3454

7 ай бұрын

@@cameronbosch1213 in my country its going out of stock too fast are they not make it that much?

@joelconolly5574

7 ай бұрын

​@@SkullCrusher480it is a pro.

@joelconolly5574

7 ай бұрын

​@@cameronbosch1213same man. And my country only sells the 4050 model 🙄

I was waiting for this comparison. Thanks Jarod!

Great Video, with you I literally understand all technical specs better , thanks

Good review, I really like it that you went outside the box with the variation. I remember the days, not so long ago (15 years or so) that AMD Radeon was the best video card for 3D modelling, days were more simple, we had more patience.

Hi Jarrod! Love the comparisons and the effort put into the testing must have been enormous! Though I have a suggestion, can you please try out the games on lower resolution and settings (or maybe the settings from video but with RT) as a way to test the CPU performance? In my experience, most of these scenarios might just be GPU bottlenecked and might not give the difference between CPUs. For example, my Ryzen 7 5800H gets rekt while playing Spiderman with RT on, and the GPU goes underutilized, suggesting a weak CPU performance with RT. Similar thing happens with Cyberpunk on RT Medium settings, where I struggle to get a constant 60FPS with DLSS Quality on 1080p with RTX 3070 laptop, due to the CPU bottlenecking the GPU (~70% GPU util).

Nice comparison. The compilation benchmark that is what I need

YES, this is comparison I was waiting for! :)

Thank you for the comprehensive review.

Back to Back awesome content. Just amazing. So glad you checked on cheap options like HP victus and Dell g series, because they can have some awesome sales as well. This one is probably one of the best videos of the year.

@JarrodsTech

7 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

I would be interested to know if there was a difference in fan performance (noise) between these two? Based on temperature info, it seems like Intel should be quieter - or are they so close that there is no difference. Thanks for the review.

This comparison is phenomenal, I have so much appreciation for the time you spent on this

@mug786

6 ай бұрын

what a world we live in that this is the exception and not the rule. this should be the default for everyone.

such a great video, congrats man!!! really appreciate the effort

I just bought the new Legion Slim 5 14 and I think it was a good decision with it's Ryzen 7 7840HS. I've always had Intel but I personally find battery life and performance without charger quite important so I'm glad to see that this is confirmed in this video

@escapetherace1943

7 ай бұрын

I also chose Ryzen, on quiet mode the machine runs everything I want and that's where efficiency (more performance) at lower power draw matters to me. I love that my laptop is VERY quiet even while gaming, it's insane

@sizzlack095

7 ай бұрын

how good is it for gaming with 4060? i was thinking Slim 14inch Slim 16inch with 4070 or Pro 7i with 4080 still cant Decide @@escapetherace1943

@mrquickogaming

7 ай бұрын

I am looking at getting the Ryzen 7 7840HS aswell, would you say its worth it over nvidia? Also much more affordable too!

@escapetherace1943

7 ай бұрын

@@mrquickogaming depends on if lower 1% drops matter in the games you intend to play. For me not really I mostly play casual stuff now so I don't need 200+fps stuff anymore. I don't wear headphones and literally can barely hear my laptop running even when gaming and I have a ryzen. It's on quiet mode though so I'm slashing performance for that quietness but the machine is so fast I'm getting max fps anyways in what I play. I can't compare it to intel, I simply chose this 1 for power reasons. If it's not on quiet mode though it doesn't matter if its a ryzen or an intel, they are LOUD. laptops are loud. That's why I shelled out $ for a top of the end laptop so I could run it at less performance and still have everything smooth and quiet. I'm on a 2022 legion pro though the 2023 stuff isn't much different

@onoorcan

7 ай бұрын

me too i choose the 7840hs and i found its better than intel versions in the silence mode and battery life right now! that s perfect!

The benchmark data is very insightful and the data presentation and summary is very well done!!

Amazing comparison video. Thank you!

@JarrodsTech

7 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Impressive work 🔥..This might be the best way to do a comparison.. keep up the hard work...

Very well done! I will keep the link to end some arguments!

Thank you so much for this video, I was looking for something exactly like this in order to make a decision.

I have really enjoyed watching your videos. Best way to get a quick grasp of what to expect from nowadays laptops. Great effort and such details. You devoation to the matter is much appreciated.

thanks for all tests

Really good test. Thanks!

2:42 Information that I was waiting for, thank you very much even though I expected as low as 10W like previous comparison.

Wow i have not seen the review like this (with power), awesome plz keep doing it

I wanted EXACTLY this video and it's released now!

really extensive review. so much effort into it. good job man❤

There are very few youtubers left like you!! Thanks for the content!!

Amazing review. Kudos to the reviewer, this was way above the industry standard.

Amazing Video. Thank you!

When you factor in that the Intel Raptor Lake is manufactured on Intel 7 formerly '10nm Enhanced SuperFin' (DUV) and the AMD Ryzen 7040 is manufactured on TSMC 4nm FinFet (EUV), the comparison is very interesting. Unfortunately Raptor Lake is the last monolithic architecture from Intel. It would have been great to test a monolithic design from Intel based on Intel 4 and compare it with a monolithic design from AMD based on TSMC 4N.

Simply the best comparisons and benchmarks in all KZread! Thanks Jarrod!

This is what I was looking for. Thx

Nice comparison thank you 😊

Cool, as always! Thanks

Great job, Jarrod. Thank you.

So it is possible to get this good efficiency also with Intel. That means the next Intel4 should be very good, there are many improvements on this front, besides the much better node. Things should get very interesting after december (actually a bit later, to also get products with those CPUs).

Excellent video. Very detailed.

nice comparison, thanks!

Nice Work ...!! Thank You for sharing .. Cheers :)

amazing jarrod , absolutely amazing review .

Hi Jarrod, please do a similar styled comparison between Intel i7 13700hx and AMD ryzen 7 7745hx both found in Lenovo Legion pro 5 and pro 5i 2023.

Thanks a lot, Your channel is the best

Thank You! so well done!

Great Job buddy ! Its a real extended test with scientific procedures !

Thank you for such a comprehensive comparison. This was very insightful. This is what we need. I hope other reviewers are taking note.

I have seen your video about Legion Slim 7 Ryzen™ 7 7840HS. We have the same laptop, so you probably noticed already by using it that the boot time is slow. My laptop takes a long time to start up every time it is turned on. I’ve checked the BIOS and it’s updated, and I’ve also checked the programs that are running at startup. Even when I disable them, it still takes my laptop a long time to start up. There is also an issue with Tobii Experience Driver 11. I have updated it several times, but the problem is that once the update is installed and I scan for other updates, the same version of the Tobii Experience Driver is reinstalled several times, and it keeps appearing in the list of updates like it wasn’t updated before. Please, do you think you can help?

It's a fantastic video for sure. But I wonder, how to setting the max power limit to 50w? What app you use ?

your able to adjust wattages at 2:32, i have watched other videos of these laptops and haven't seen this section. it appears its a custom profile from looking at your video but no one else has custom as an option on either the slim 5, slim 5i, slim 7 and slim 7i only on the pro models. what did you do to do that and can you adjust those wattages on any other profile other then custom?

My Asus X13 has the 7940HS chip in it, and it's the perfect chip for ultra-portable laptops as it performans insanely well when set to really low-tdp, and it's great at undervolting (very very stable).

@siddharthrawat955

4 ай бұрын

How are the thermals?

@AllAboutRoblox13

3 ай бұрын

96C@@siddharthrawat955

Great effort to test so many games! Though I'm not sure testing in 1440p is the best choice when testing CPUs, even more so when paired with an 4060. Even with 1080p high settings I would assume we run into a GPU bottleneck frequently. So 720p low (for an actual cpu speed comparison) and 1080p high (for a realistic gaming scenario) would be better imo.

Your videos are the best on the platform when it comes to laptop and chipset reviews.

Awesome comprehensive review❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

I got the legion slim 7 with 7840hs,32gb ram and 4060 , 3,2k screen , it cost 320 euro less than the intel version , I'm loving it too much and after seeing your video I'm happy that i didn't spend that 320 euro for the Intel version , if both had had the same price or Intel was a little less expensive I would have gone with the Intel, but 320 euros was a lot and AMD does everything I wanted to do, it is an excellent computer, fast and very silent, I have never heard its fans working except when I was doing benchmarks. On R23 single core in performance mode I got 1767 and multicore 17483. I would say excellent.

@nrogo

7 ай бұрын

Awesome,I am thinking between Slim 7 and Pro 5…😊

@parham5668

7 ай бұрын

@@nrogo go with the slim 7 , it is a fantastic computer, silent, fast, really excellent build quality, above all the 3.2k 165 hertz screen is just amazing, 32 GB of RAM which is enough for all the tasks you want and a 99,9 Wh battery.

@parham5668

7 ай бұрын

@@nrogo with slim 7 you will certainly have better battery life, because both the processor consumes less and the battery is larger, but if you go for the 7945hx I don't know, at that point the computer becomes much more powerful but in any case you will lose on battery life a lot, then it all depends on how much you pay for it, I paid 1400 euros for the slim 7, for a pro 5 with the same RAM and SSD with the 7945hx I have to pay 2234 which I will never do, and then I will never have the chance to have 3.2 screen, so for me the slim 7 was the best choice.

is the iGPU in intel still have advantage in Pr or Davinci ? like smoother playback, faster encoding time? the free version of davinci doesn't have dGPU acceleration?

very informative! hops, that you do same review for new gen processors, i totally misunderstand what is going on here

Great work Jarrod...

I bought the 2023 Legion Slim 7 (AMD 7840HS, 4060) for 1500 CAD all-in. It’s basically permanently in “quiet” mode for me because both CPU and GPU perform so well at lower wattages. I’m definitely not a hard core gamer but I play AoE 4 on high settings at 1600p and it’s buttery smooth with imperceptible fan noise. For someone like me it’s perfect. I really appreciate the noise/temps/battery-to-performance ratio but I understand everyone has different needs.

@suschilegge1683

7 ай бұрын

I got the same laptop as well! Great machine, great build quality. It gets a bit warmer than I'd like on the keyboard deck but nothing major (and it's to be expected since it's all metal)

@Filthy_Casual101

7 ай бұрын

@@suschilegge1683 I haven’t personally felt mine getting warm since I’m always in quiet mode. Though you’re right, it’s expected for a metal thin and light to get warm under gaming loads. Maybe a game in the future will actually entice me to get out of quiet mode. For now though, I can’t get over it. I’ve never gamed on a laptop before that doesn’t sound or feel like it’s trying super hard. It makes me feel like I’ve truly upgraded to a better machine, not just improved raw performance.

@lionemessithegoat

7 ай бұрын

Lenovo is the best in the game@@Filthy_Casual101

@Tatar_Piano

3 ай бұрын

Currently amd def is the way to go, bought a laptop with 12700h and it is really bad, 12700h scores the same score at 75 watts as amd 7840hs at 40 watts, currenty intel is horribble

Thanks a lot for the comparison. It helped me in my purchase.

Thanks a lot! :)

Hey jarrod, just a quick question, why when I use the cpu benchmark page to compare these two models, it shows a much greater difference in performance between the two models!?

hey Jarrod. you could look at doing that laptop deals aggregator for the UK too ;)

Great content! Happy to see AMD still bringing the heat. Now if Nvidia and AMD would both get off their asses for midrange mobile GPUs id be really happy

If the goal was to test the CPU performance, why weren't the games tested at maximum low settings at 720p, to really force a CPU bound scenario and to really show the difference between the two?

@MA-jz4yc

3 ай бұрын

because thats a unrealistic scenario for most people

So which one is cooler and quaiter at normal using such web browsing, microsoft office and yt, netflix watching? I'm looking for one which is more quaiet in standrd usage (at low power), gaming is lot of power and it's normal that it will be loud.

@Jarrod'sTech do you have any plans to review Msi Alpha 17 with Ryzen 9 7945HX

Another awesome comparison Jarod! Even though I’m still happily using my 11th gen i7 3080 16gb Lenovo legion I bought because of your videos. I still love watching your new videos for the latest accurate info. Keep it up!

I love how on 8:38 intel comes out 3.14%(or π%) slower and the channel logo is also JT looks like a π too

Hey jarrod I wanna buy the legion slim 7i with the 3.2k display but I doubt that running 1080 games on high resolution screen looks really bad is that really the case?

big work. thx

This is impressive, thank You!

crazy ambitious video, well done

@JarrodsTech

7 ай бұрын

thanks!

Thank you very much for helping us in a profitable purchase with clear explanations

The 7840h/hs is good enough with its 780m integrated graphics for gaming on a budget on the go, especially with 5600+ DDR5 . It's disappointing that a 4050/4060 MUST be included in every laptop with this processor which jacks up the price

@asmrnaturecat984

7 ай бұрын

The blame is on amd, not oem Amd rdna3 laptop is not as efficient as nvidia, plus they have problem producing it in large quantities Not to mention various problem with amd sam, might as well call it amd disadvantage

@maplelief_dreaming

7 ай бұрын

I got a 14 inch 7840h Thinkbook laptop. No bonded discrete GPU. Hella nice honestly haha.

@ragaadin9408

7 ай бұрын

@@asmrnaturecat984 i think he is specifically said about rdna3 igpu, not discrete gpu. yeah i agree that rdna3 dgpu not efficient as nvidia ada lovelace.

@ZiZo34344

7 ай бұрын

​​​@@maplelief_dreaming IKR? No dedicated GPU needed. Most games can run at a playable framerate 1080p low settings, even medium in many cases

@mmadevgame

7 ай бұрын

@@asmrnaturecat984 he is talking about igpu you are talking about dgpu. Oranges and apples.

Great video. You're the goat man

The cache on the intel is misleading because a part of the cache can't be shared across cores, while the cache on the amd is unified. So while intel has more total cache, it doesn't perform like it has more cache.

Make a comparaison between ryzen 7 7745hx vs intell 13700hx or do a benshmark for ryzen 7 7745hx please , i literally cant find it on youtube . And goood job btw

can you do the 7745HX vs 13700HX next please? great video as always jarrod

@pham3383

7 ай бұрын

HX chips are underrated

Hey Jarrod can we have a mid year laptop awards? And recommend the best mid tier stuff, currently have a huge sale in my country, but I'm very confused which one to get

Dope job 👍

Best review in this generation of CPUs. Thank you for your hard work. Can you please include more tests in Linux, on battery and in plug. Love your channel.

this is exactly what i was looking for

Benchmark are in detail that I have never seen on KZread before. Thumbs-up for Jarrod.

Hi Jarrod, I hope you see this. I have the 7840hs just got it returned one earlier and got another. However, my cinebench multi score with performance mode and max fan is around 16900-17133 never seen it go beyond that but here yours go beyon 17133. I was wondering if that is normal for my device.

Absolutely top tier video! Today was the last day for the $999 sale at Best Buy for the 7840HS/4060 and you helped convince me to take the plunge! Maybe not as insane of a deal as it was 3 or 4 months ago but still seems like a tremendous overall value. Thanks for all your work!

@adisswar1437

5 ай бұрын

What laptop?

@usamam2227

5 ай бұрын

which one

@raiusdaltar1483

5 ай бұрын

Legion 5 Slim

@BreakingDimes

4 ай бұрын

I got the same deal it's a steal for the legion 5

I send people to this channel anytime someone asks, "what gaming laptop should I buy?", I tell them, "watch the 10 most recent videos and pick which one sounds best for your needs.". Great benchmarks and always the best reviews. Now to point out a single flaw, "3 out of the 2 tests" 6:06

man thank you so much, I don't need to watch another video because this is more than enough data dor me to make my decision

I have question for fast video editing should I look at the ram or processor. For example should I go with ryzen 5 16 gb ram or Intel I7 8 gb ram?

Hey bro i want buy laptop hp victus 16 , so for multitasking better i7 13700hx or amd ryzen 7 7840hs both is RTX 4060

THANK YOU JARROD.VERY ANALYTIC AND HELPFUL .🙂🙂💥💥

@JarrodsTech

7 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I happen to have a Ryzen 7840hs. However, the processor seems to be working on a low power basis or something as I only manage to g t up to 12500 score in cinebebch which is pretty low and I don't really know what to do

Can anyone give suggestions, i'm looking for new laptop. Which one should i take between this 2 chipset. Mostly used for GIS like autoCAD, rockscience slide 2, arcgis manifold and petrel. My old i5 8th gen seems couldn't handle those apps anymore, been using it for 6 years now. I never tried amd, so i'm curious about its performance running gis program.

This came just in time. I just ordered a HP Omen 16 with a 4070 and AMD 7840HS

had to buy the i7 version since it was the only one with a sale unlike the ryzen ones (in my country at least) but I guess its not that big of a gap when it comes to actually using it right? in numbers it forsure is a gap but would it be noticable irl?

I may have been outdated, but I want know about the quick sync thing. Is it still an advantage for intel?

How was Lenovo able to optimize battery life with the Intel processor? Can the difference between 4nm and 10nm in terms of battery life be closed with other components?

@LixGugli

7 ай бұрын

The 10nm process from Intel is better than the 10nm from TSMC, still not like a 4nm but a closer gap