The last two are probably passive, and I used to own a OnePlus 6t as a daily so can confirm at least that one is passive, i.e. it uses a DAC built into the phone instead of carrying one inside the cable itself.

@JulianKrause

2 жыл бұрын

Good point, that would also explain why the HTC and OnePlus adapter aren't even recognized when plugged into a PC.

@metal571

2 жыл бұрын

@@JulianKrause now that I also finished watching, it seems fairly well documented online that the Apple dongle purposely puts out less power when used with Android, but for some reason runs at full power with a PC, the latter of which being how I use mine. Awesome reliable and simple DAC solution for most headphones

@yoriow877

2 жыл бұрын

@@metal571 omg those Assholes. If only I knew about this

2 жыл бұрын

Are you sure that the last white one is HTC? I've never seen a white adapter from them and all the ones I've had were digital.

@user-gk6tw2gc6u

2 жыл бұрын

The Essential Phone adapter was the best one (in my experience) I've used and I am sad that I lost mine.

Vielen dank, Julian! I haven’t seen anyone else do such proper measurements and reviews of these gear. 99% are KZreadrs who read the specs sheets accompanied by loud music and jump cuts. I just wanted to let you know that we really appreciate your content

@schlorbster

Жыл бұрын

Warum deutsch?

@aks72821

9 ай бұрын

so true comrade

@Khunimurderer

8 ай бұрын

Exaclty my thoughts.

Julian I am a big fan of your videos. Thank you for all the effort you put into making your measurements, I really enjoy them!

Literally hands down the best comparison video on entire youtube!! Words are not enough to thank you

Dude that's impeccable timing. I was just about to buy a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter and wondering which one to get. Thanks for the help!

@jonahramirezmusic

Жыл бұрын

Which one did you get?

@chan13153

3 ай бұрын

​@@jonahramirezmusic Prob got a pair of bluetooth headphones instead. Smart move. Screw the cable

Aaaaand Julian Krause strikes again!! Fantastic-useful information as always! 🥳🥳 😄😄

As always, impeccable test and review!

Hallo Julian, vielen Dank für dieses tolle Video! Ich bin sehr beeindruckt von deiner Vorgehensweise und werde deinen weiteren gerne Content verfolgen. Weiter so!

I've been wondering this myself, with so many different generic ones on Amazon. Was looking for comparisons and wonder if they were all the same. Thank you for doing the research for us!

Geiles Video Julian, und sehr nice Graphen👍

Great video mate. I love the length you’ve gone to to review these adapters 👍🏻 Subscribed 😉 “Don’t worry about it” classic 😂

I used your videos as reference before combining headphones with audio cards. I ended up with DT990 PRO 250ohm with Audient ID4 MK2. I am so happy about the end result. Thank you for engineering level details, charts and everything. ❤

Julian thanks for your evaluation 👍

Thanks for doing this particular video!!!!!

subscribed. thank you for this. hope the channel grows.

Julian, this is what I've been looking for for years! I want to do the review of Apple dongle for quite awhile now and all I lack of is the scientific data to back-up my claim that why the dongle is better than people might think. Big ups to your effort and thank you for your hard work.

Great video Julian.

Immer wieder interessant! Guter Mann!

Great content. Keep doing it hard dude.

THANK YOU!. I really needed a detailed version of the affects of the usb c 3.5mm audio adapter. Especially needed the recording of the voice test that you did, so Thank you!..

Thank you! This was very useful, and I appreciate the breakdown for audio laypersons. :)

Danke dir, echt präzise und hilfreich 👍

Great video. It's pretty random that a lot of entry level audio interface's can't handle that level of accuracy. But I understand that compensates that with a better preamp for inputs. Anyways love your channel and your graphs!

Super helpful video! Thank you!

Every time I look for some answers, I just reach for Julian's channel and bam! The answer is right here. Such an excellent details! I'm glad you include the mic tests because I wasn't sure about SNR implied from the chart (high power + low noise floor). The Samsung's noise floor seems to be best but it kinds of changing the sound tone.

wonderful information thanks dude.

Thanks for taking the time to buy all those different ones 🤙

Thank you for the data driven comparison.

thanks for sharing this informative video on audio adapter

Great video! Thank you for your AMAZING work Julian! I got a pair of HD600s and thought performance would be terrible on my iPad with the USB-C to 3.5mm dongle. In comparison to my Motu M4 it’s only a little quieter, and there’s no audible distortion. But then I’m using a US dongle, with an M1 iPad that provides plenty of power, so maybe that’s why. Either way, I can’t believe it works so well!

Very helpful. Thank you

Hell yeah great idea for a video

I hate those adapters😅 wish they just kept the headphonejack

@dfcx1

2 жыл бұрын

I got one for my PC because it's better quality than the mobo's built in 3.5mm output.

@IcyyX_

Жыл бұрын

​@@dfcx1 which one us best for mic quality?

@DefKiller90

Жыл бұрын

Agree they should bring back the headphone jack where you don't have to charge the bloody thing

@SpecterNeverSpectator

8 ай бұрын

Bought one from samsung, bloody bastard broke in less than a week, its been about 5 days and fucker doesnt wanna work anymore, and its yo be expected, its the shittiest most pitiful cable i have ever seen, I could snap this shit with my fingers.

@andrewcrossley2448

7 ай бұрын

The Apple ones DAC is able to provide CD quality. As far as I know only the new 14 and 16 in MacBook Pros get to that quality very few other laptop or desktops do that. I have also used the lightening DAC to connect high quality external mics to an iPhone 13 Pro rig set up and it worked brilliantly. For the money it is very good. Same for the USB3 one into my iPad Pro.

I am using a pixel and using IEMs so I need this! THANK U SO MUCH this channel is such a hidden gem I'm shocked at the production quality ! Subbed!!

Dear Julian Krause, DANKE and thank you once again for an another top-class, easy-to-understand video clip. I lift my symbolic hat off every time I watch your videos. For most people, the Bluetooth connection is enough. If somebody want or need a cable connection because they think it sounds better, then this clip is a really great help. Exactly my opinion, the manufacturer's parts are usually the better choice. With cheaper goods from far east, you end up paying double, mostly. Although some of the manufacturer's parts don't have a long life either, maybe on purpose. Expensive doesn't have to mean more either. But what is most important? Every person in the world hears differently! Keep up the good work. Musical greetings and I say "Servus!" from Bavaria

Thank you so much for your research!

Don’t u just hate that the Beyerdynamic DT Siebenhundertsiebzig Pro won’t run well on the Apple ones

@tech_nick0

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@pliedtka

2 жыл бұрын

Try the 880-600 wouldn't do it either ;)

@Lishtenbird

Жыл бұрын

Gesundheit.

Great video JK! I suggest a follow-up that measures the mic input too. My reasoning is the following: People use their phone for Discord, Zoom, Clubhouse, Tiktok and even KZread. For recording videos, from say from your phone, you can always use a portable/external recorder and sync in post, but I imagine that sometimes you just want to record as-is but wish to have better audio than the built-in mics. Also the usb-c/lightning lapel mics are often limited in quality so some people might want to use their regular minijack lapel (or other connectors with an adapter). I suggest using a well known and good lapel mic like the sennheiser mke2 and maybe one or two others (that requires plugin power), and one or more known dynamic lapel mics. (That don’t require plugin power). Maybe you could also include a normal dynamic mic as well. (Sm58/røde m1 etc) And also compare their recording quality to say a consumer grade zoom h5, and with a good audio interface (Røde has a xlr/3.5mm phantom power/plugin power adapter). It would be great if you could test with both normal speech and maybe something noisier. Would also be nice if you could upload the recordings so we could judge by ourselves. And lastly, please include the Saramonic lightning or usb-c adapter since that is the only one that advertise plugin power combatibility. Maybe a few other adapters on the market might include plugin power without advertising it, so with an mke2 you could actually find that out. I am about to order the saramonic adapter for my lapel mic and use it to shoot a few videos from my vacation and tbh I think it’s probably good enough for speech, but it would be really interesting if you could include the mic inputs in a follow-up. Cheers

Excellent, and most impressively, objective review as always - just what I have been looking for. However, I do agree with some that you might want to consider doing a deep-dive on the mic-input portion (mic-preamp and ADC stages) of these dongles though, in addition to the DAC and headphone amp portions. I am curious about how the dongle analog mic input can compare to full-fledged audio interfaces. More people are shifting to using portable devices such as smartphones or tablets over computers in their audio production nowadays. Wonder if these dongles can produce quality results for audio production like podcasts.

@keithwiebe1787

Жыл бұрын

I have a fake Samsung adapter and the hiss is extremely loud through the mic input. Purchased it over Amazon and was told it's a genuine adapter but I don't believe so. I don't believe any of these will record in stereo either.

About a year back with my pixel 6 I bought an apple usb-c adapter, it absolutely does not drive my M50x, surprisingly. I was curious if it's because of the phone or if it's the dongle. I ended up going for a Fiio BTR5 bluetooth adapter that I am very happy with.

Enlightening review! Only USB-C-3.5mm adapter I have is the stock unit that came with the Essential PH-1 phone, unsure of who manufactured it. It still sounds great with various TRRS buds and 32Ω Sennheiser HD-202 headphones on my Pixel 6. But it's really noisy with my 50Ω Fostex RP T-20 (v2) using a 3.5mm to 1/4" adaptor that otherwise works fine with a Cute II headphone amp and the Fostex off other equipment.

I do a lot of field recording, I am curious about the A/D converter also. Thank you for all the data!

I would love to know if I can record my next album using the mic input. Like you said, the DA output is fantastic, so now I’m curious to know about the AD input.

¡Has realizado un excelente trabajo!

One of the biggest advantages of these dongles, is that the inline remote buttons work on pc too.

This video reminded me of Sheldon Cooper's Fun with Flags :D And I sincerely mean that as a compliment Loved the video, it had all that I needed.

HI Julian! In your opinion, would it make sense to get one of these to mix on low-impedance headphones instead of using an interface with high-impedance HP output (like UR22C)?

Excellent video keep up the good work. I paired my Samsung adaptor with the s22÷ and some old cheap Sony earbuds with inline mic...I could hear constant rhythmic clicking and after a while screeching audio feedback...I was not sure what was causing this..I deduced that the inline mic was causing the issue either through its termination or diaphragm issues. I changed to earphones..jvc...that had no inline mic and this resolved my issue...do you have any comments on this?

Superb video! Thanks for the research. Always a pleasure to meet a nerd. ❤ Could you also test if volume rockers work? And the audio quality during calls. Sometimes the volume tends to jump around from music to calls. Cheers!

I listened a lot recently on my Iphone with lightning adapter on a Shure SRH840A and I was pleasantly surprised by the good sound of it. Off course using Spotify isn’t the highest quality, so all in all I think it is the best you can get when you are on the way. I was in a hotel by the way, so far away from any decent gear I have at home, making this the best you can get and it works well. Thank you for confirming!

@andrewcrossley2448

7 ай бұрын

Works fine with Beyer DT 900 Pro X headphones too which is very much to Apple’s credit. It is limited to CD quality. I recently imported a very good value and high quality dongle from Amazon in the USA that is USB to phono. That goes to twice CD quality. Ailun I think - ‘DAC Hi-res Chipset 384KHZ/32Bit ,with high quality audio conversion chipset, it can convert Digital Audio Signals to Analog Audio Signals and maintain the original sound quality of your headphones. Sampling Rate up to 384KHZ/32Bit gives you Hi-res sound performance. ‘ for €13 an absolute bargain. Sounds good for the money.

Such nice video

Actually these adapters do get used with lav mics such as the Rode SmartLav+ or Sennheiser XS Lav Mobile, so maybe a more thorough investigation of their pre-amp and ADC performance could be interesting...

@dfcx1

2 жыл бұрын

The amount of bias voltage would be interesting since some headset mics don't work too well without enough of it.

@michaelraimondi4448

2 жыл бұрын

I would love a test of this!

@jejv3418

2 жыл бұрын

@@dfcx1 Yeah, I've seen 1.0V (Interface supplied with Logitech analogue headset) to 4.5V (Rode VXLR+ 3.5mm TRS to XLR Adaptor). 1.0V seems a bit low for the JFET amplifier. 7V is probably safe. Android specs say 2.8V max.

@jejv3418

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they can get used for ad-hoc podcasts.

Thank you so much Julian this video is end game for my dongle search ..i wish you compare OnePlus type c dongle also

Would you still recommend buying headphone adapters with external DAC for around 80 - 100€? Currently using the dt770pro 32 Ohms with a Samsung device via original Samsung Adapter and wondering if it's worth upgrading. Great video thanks ✌️

Hai, your review helped me to find a better option, i ended up using samsung usb-c for my 16 oHm headphones works fine

could you do that to cheap phone DACs? like Tempotec stuff etc.

Please check the ik multimedia irig pre~amp and the tc helicon go when working on those cables….. or any other alternatives .. thanks in advance

Will there be a possibility that u check out the performance of the IK Multimedia Axe I/O? It might be a little more on the end towards guitarists but still offers the mic XLR in, line etc & I would like to know how it fairs up to current interfaces such as the one I previously was looking at (Audient ID14 MK2). Also they express that it should have as high DR as 117dB but I also wanna know about EIN, and other measurements for mics. Since it also comes with amplitube it also caught my interest as it would be a seperate expense otherwise.

Please do a review of the Apogee groove if you can and as always incredible content, I find it incredible we can have this quality of content for free!!

I wish companies would do a more clear job of marketing which of these adapters have their own internal dac and which are totally passive.

Really helpful video! I found this video searching for a solution to a problem I have with my adapter, I bought a Xiaomi phone and a samsung adapter. It ended up sounding really low, I'll search for the Xiaomi one and test if there's any difference. Thanks for yout video!

Recently I got a notebook without a jack that came with Asus MU3C-AD(M) USB-C->3.5jack dongle based on ESS ES9260(Q) SoC/DAC chip. In a quick test it showed to be capable of driving 150 Ohm headphones (Sennheiser and Beyerdynamic) to decent enough levels, no problems with driving 32 Ohm headphones really loud, and it was like more than +115 DNR and less than -100 dB THD+N. I mean, these little things I never took seriously became surprisingly good!

can you measure the frequency response from the input (mic) side?

Nice intro B-roll lol 😂

Hallo, erstmal vielen Dank für die aufwändige Mess-Arbeit und Testen dieser Adapter. Auf MMarkt gibt es einen INF 3,5 mm 32 bit / 483 kHz. Würde mich interessieren, wieviel besser oder schlechter, im Vergleich zu den Apple / Samsung / Google Adaptern ist. Preislich sehr ähnlich d.h. wird sich auf ähnlichem Niveau bewegen.

in which category would a high quality hifi dongle dac like the AudioQuest DragonFly Cobalt measure different?

I use my iPhone as a Audio recorder using lav mics. So microphone usability is important. Some condenser mics like professional, tiny headset-microphones like “DPA” need plug in power. (similar XLR phantome voltage). Do you know if these adapters provide plugin power like a zoom H1 does?

The one I bought is has only mono audio- not stereo audio. I would like t9 know if those are in stereo.

Ich hab da noch nh frage? Ich hätte halt gerne einen Adapter der halt mit den internen Mikrofon Anschluss Arbeitet. Weil ich immer adapter hatte wo ich dazu ein externes Mikrofon brauch das mich die andere person hören kann, deswegen welchen Adapter könntest du empfehlen, und vielleicht auch ein Kopfhörer Anschluss der auch währenddessen laden kann. (Als kleine Info hab das s22 ultra falls die Information helfen kann)

hi, does anyone know of 3rd party adapter that works with Samsung, because the one at samsung web is always sold out, or people are saying it stops working after few days

With the dongle i have it produces static and the bass on the headphones doesnt work

Caught you slipping into German when you mentioned the Beyerdynamics DT Siebenhundertsiebzig 😁

i record my acoustic guitar with my 2007 hp laptop's built in interface and and it gives enough voltage to run my electret capsule but on the other hand my pc barely gives enough voltage to run the capsule and post boost increases noise up to -18 db. it seems like we intentionally decreased the power of our mic in port

Great video... Please do one for mic/input jack adapter... thanks

How did you get the Aria's cable so straight?? Mine has kept the shape it came with in the box after 2 years

Which would you say is all-around the best for strictly PC use?

Hello Julian nice video , could you please offer your perspective on an issue , i have an ipad air 5 which i use to record my videos , i just wanna know if a non phantom no battery mic like a rode shot gun would work for recording audio on my ipad air if connected through apple usb-c to 3.5 mm doc , is it tssr certified will it my ipad able to detect the mic ?

What about lightning camera adapters and hdmi ? I seen a video where a guy head a adapter in his iPhone where he could plug in a external monitor and a usb audio interface while running a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. Do adapters and hubs in these type of situations matter latency wise? Could you have Audio lag and external monitor lag from not buying a decent one ?

Have the 10th gen ipad and with apple adapter i bought also the Sennheiser PC 5 CHAT Headset .The mic is not working of the headset with mic

Thank you.

does anyone know where to buy a US version of the apple lightning dongle from europe?

I have a s24+ and like to use then with sennheiser HD 598, 50 ohm open headphones. Besides the Samsung adapter, what would be a better upgrade which will drive larger headphones bette. What are you recommend beside the basic adaptera listed here?

Did these adapters also produce constant noise like hissing sound when used

I was thinking of getting the samsung adapter to try power the Hifiman Editions XS on PC, since they are 18ohm HP but im not sure how well it will work. Anybody has tested this setup? Thanks

Will it work good with razer krakens and an s21 fe?

I am using Samsung S10+(snapdragon), which comes with WCD9341. AFAIK, it is already having playback sampling of 32-bit, do you think I need to get the Samsung dongle for playing lossless files? Thank you.

Excuse me, do you know if this Iphone's 3.5mm adapter CTIA or OMTP standard?

Which adapter should I go for Google pixel 6a , please suggest 🙏

Does the samsung a55 support any of this adapters?

BRO I am Using Mi 10t 5g Smartphone.....pls suggest me which one is better for me

my type c to 3,5 adapter struggle to process mic + sound when I try to use my headset for calls

Julian did you have a chance to try the OnePlus dongle, is 1+ dongle good as Samsung dongle?

Can I feed the adapter output to an Amp?

This is awesome video! Please give us better USB dongle options

Nice! I just started googling for new info on this topic so glad you've just made this! I'm using a Google Pixel 3 and since it's been hard to find the Google adapter here in Finland, i've had instead the Apple adapter, but haven't really been able to use it because the volume is not enough even if cranked to full volume with any headphones. But because of your videos(!), i've attained new info on amp/headphones compatibility and thought to try again to find a better suited option. I guess if the Google adapter still isn't available here, i'm gonna try the Samsung one since it looks to give better output to 32ohm (Ollo S4X), but apparently since it varies depending on the audio source, i'm already prepared to return it if/when it doesn't help :).

@DennisMillner

2 жыл бұрын

Ach, saw on Amazon reviews the Samsung one doesn't work nor get recognised as headphones with Pixel 3 and the Google one still isn't available here so i guess that's that - i'll continue using a separate bt receiver or a laptop...

@bizovski

Жыл бұрын

hi! how does samsung adapter work? i have pixel 6 and also cant buy in croatia google adapter

@DennisMillner

Жыл бұрын

@@bizovski See my above reply for Pixel 3, don't know about Pixel 6 unfortunately.

Julian, when UAD Apollo or Steinberg AXR4 review?

Could you potentially go back to your PC mainboards and test their inputs? There are a lot of people complaining about unusably noisy mic input, and i'm curious how much performance you can get out of line in!

is that a loxjie a30 Amp DAC on his desk? he's not reviewed that, id like to know what he thinks of it. reports are generally positive but some say it's got too much distortion.

Can't thank you enough!

Wäre echt super wenn ich von dir eine Antwort auf die folgende Frage bekommen könnte: Wie beeinflusst wenig Leistung von zB so einem Dongle den Klang eines KH? Also man sagt ja zB das der Bassbereich an Kraft verliert etc..