Man, F9 gets a lot of milage from that CVT cone.

@mbryson2899

7 ай бұрын

Did you mean "CVT cone?" 😂

@HighCalip

7 ай бұрын

yea hope someone washes it

@thenexthobby

7 ай бұрын

“That’s what she said.”

@palashbhaumik42069

7 ай бұрын

They are forced by law to use 'the CVT cone' in videos to pass it off as a business expense

...and this is why I love watching you: if there is a mistake, or people are confused, you expand and reupload with additional data. The amazing storytelling, humour, and overall just great content of course also help.

@shadymello9146

7 ай бұрын

when did they upload this one?

@jttcosmos

7 ай бұрын

@@spacecruisers Did you watch until the end of the video...? :)

@spacecruisers

7 ай бұрын

@@jttcosmosI stand corrected and deleted my comment, I guess I commented too early haha. To be fair I think it deserves more than 10 seconds at the very end. I have both the locking and non-locking/wireless charging Peak Design 1” ball mounts which are pretty cheap comparatively, has built in vibration dampening, and I can easily swap between my motorcycles/bike/cars which all have existing ram mount setups. The case is also 👌🏻 (they have some cool accessories like wallets and stands etc if you’re into that) Also, not to ignore the most important part, mounting and dismounting is almost completely frictionless. I’m not an influencer/ambassador, just truly love good design and love their product which I bought with my own money. I was pleased to see that it also performed the best (according to their test metric anyway)

@rayhan4502

7 ай бұрын

@@insertyoutubeusername or not

@BlueRidgeRider

7 ай бұрын

@@spacecruisersI did the same. When the PD case and mounts arrived I literally threw my phone at the mount and it locked itself on! Truly one handed release too! My old bedside wireless charger works with it. I got the car mounts that have the magnet without the latching anti-vibration motorcycle stuff.

Thanks for the feedback team! You all make us sharper. ~RF9

@byever1

7 ай бұрын

Mrbeast collaboration when?

@davezegerman7493

7 ай бұрын

I hope never lol@@byever1

@keithquinn5624

7 ай бұрын

Make more motorcycle vids ffs

@wctreasurez7928

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for listening to your audience and making adjustments. That's how we grow and get better!!

@----.__

7 ай бұрын

You could do a feedback video on feedback, asking for feedback on your feedback, and it would still be epic! Peace from Australia :)

Retest starts at 7:08

@RELOADEDEDER

7 ай бұрын

Bless.

@mmuller199

7 ай бұрын

Thanks my man, you're a real one

@NorroTaku

7 ай бұрын

get sponsor block and make it a highlight point for us ^^

@MrJespor

7 ай бұрын

the comment i was looking for

@estebanod

2 ай бұрын

​@@NorroTakudo it yourself?

I don't want to encourage skipping but 7:13 for anyone who saw the first part already.

@PeopleWatchingMarcus

7 ай бұрын

Hero!

@MrPwnageMachine

7 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@matthewbeaver5026

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

@TalasDS

7 ай бұрын

Oh, so it's been extended. I was extremely confused. And even thinking about déja vu.

@MotorbikesandMemes

7 ай бұрын

I do want to encourage skipping, so I marked this as a highlight in Sponsorblock.

The Peak Design moto mount has been bomb proof for me and a few others I ride with. And the cases are slick, protect the phone, and still keep a decent feel on the buttons. And it puts you into the RAM ecosystem. They really did nail it on their mounts.

@g0nk

7 ай бұрын

Same here. I am surprised it's not included in this video, I find it far superior to Quad Lock even.

@mmceorange

7 ай бұрын

Yes! The Peak Design Mobile line is awesome, I got a whole set of their mounts from the Kickstarter, then picked up a couple of the RAM ball attachments. Ridiculously secure.

@realMysta

7 ай бұрын

Yeah peak design is best and it’s not close

@OneManTrail

7 ай бұрын

I came here looking for this comment. I also switched from long time QuadLock to Peak Design. No going back.

@MrBurrrG

7 ай бұрын

@@g0nk see last few seconds

As someone who does vibration analysis for work, I'd be interested in seeing the raw accelerometer data to see what ASD levels each mount produces, i.e. the frequency content of the measured vibrations

@rohankansara

7 ай бұрын

dude i do the same thing

@MotoDash1100

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, old FortNine would've displayed those. R.I.P.

@Robert-00768

7 ай бұрын

​@@MotoDash1100🤷🏻‍♂️ they got big and now have to adjust for the masses, basically all channels have to do it.

@jmkubli

7 ай бұрын

Ditto!

@3d81bf

7 ай бұрын

would it be possible to figure out the resonant frequencies of the parts that are responsible for broken optical stabilization? In practice would that just be done through testing and breaking a lot of phones?

I'm glad you took the time to update and repost this video. I wish you had included the available vibration dampers in the tests, they do cost more money but in the case of quadlock (which is the only one of these I have used), I was happy to buy the add-on to protect the well over $1000 phone I use it for and I would be interested in independent testing to see how effective it really is

@MotoDash1100

7 ай бұрын

Exactly, they gave control testing but not testing on with the apparently only vibration dampener available on market right now.

@andy_byrd

7 ай бұрын

This is a huge miss. They literally redid the video to add additional tests but didn't test the anti vibration mounts...?

@johnbradford9235

7 ай бұрын

Dampeners 😉😁😁😁. 😎

@shhmule

7 ай бұрын

Why would you spend $1000 on a phone and not expect it to withstand vibration? My $300 phone has handled 30,000 km of big thumper riding on a KTM, and the phone functions perfectly.

@mushutak

7 ай бұрын

@@shhmule I'm glad you're happy with your $300 phone, mine has functions that yours does not, that is the nature of paying more money for things. Whether a flagship phone is necessary is another question. Actually my previous $1000 phone survived around maybe 10,000km on my DR-Z without the vibration damper too, much of it off road (and more crashes than I could count). But others had problems with the exact same phone, so I guess I was just lucky. I just bought the vibration damper for piece of mind.

Thanks for taking the feedback and updating. Although what I actually want to know is how well they do WITH the vibration damper. Cause anyone that is concerned about it is going to get that anyway

What an amazing move guys! Re editing and shooting some parts to ensure better and more accurate results! 👍🏼

Hey! Cool video as always! I do have one question though: In some of the cuts of footage from the accelerometer tests, I can see that the accelerometer is attached directly to the phone mount. Wouldn’t it be a much more representative test, with perhaps a different outcome, if you attached the accelerometer to a phone on the phone mount? Feels to me like the added mass could quite significantly impact your vibration tests!

@alphastratus6623

7 ай бұрын

Most phones have accelerometers build in. maybe use these and an app to read the data....

@Stag2997

7 ай бұрын

I thought the same thing. You'd like to think more mass would improve things however, but then again, the resonant frequency may change for the worse.

@wes3007

7 ай бұрын

You could do some rough physics to estimate the size and weight of the phones from the size/weight of the accelerometer. There is a shred of hope that is what they were referring to in regards to having to do some math in the video. But I agree, Id like to know how that would change things.

Absolutely one of the best channels on KZread. The previous phone mount video is the only time I've ever seen overwhelmingly negative comments, and instead of just letting that slide you went and improved the video with math to backup your findings. I found the original video came off a lot like an SP connect advert, where is this one definitely comes off like an actual analysis of quality. Thanks to the team at Fortnine for continuing the unbelievable quality you've always had

@MotoDash1100

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, they portrayed people caring about SP Connect's lack of upfront nature about vibrations as being tinfoil hat wearers, and then provided a control for QuadLock but never showing it with the vibration dampener which is the other half of what so many comments asked for. Great job FortNine, you portrayed people who cared and commented as conspiracy nuts. So much respect for the community that thought you cared about details and good testing, as well as companies (SP Connect as an example) being upfront about vibrational damage and marketing claims (Quadlock as an example of a marketing claim that went fully untested).

@Jakrabat94

7 ай бұрын

I have the QuadLock with vibration dampener and wireless charger; I was hoping to see it tested 🤷🏼‍♂️ But yea, I guess that vibration dampener does such a good job so it wouldn't be fair to the others 🙃🤷🏼‍♂️

Peak Design mount comes with vibration dampening already included, and the case is really nice, i’ve had one for a few months now and no complaints !

Having used the RAM X-Grip across 3 iPhones on two Harley Davidson bikes over the years (and HD’s don’t vibrate at ALL 🙄), as well as my leisurely strolls on a Trek Verve 2, I can report zero phone damage over thousands of miles. I refuse to use a mount that requires a dedicated case.

@sirskyrage

7 ай бұрын

especially since most phones don't have a case for quadlock ect lol

@DJPTEXAS

7 ай бұрын

The RAM Quick grip w Vibration damper is more secure and never had an issue. I agree I do not like using a case....

@csn583

7 ай бұрын

Well it dropped mine so average in my 100% damage to that equation. Just buy the far-superior Quick-Grip in the same Ram mount ecosystem.

@ridderjaim3

7 ай бұрын

Isn't that like one of the biggest issues with some of these mounts, the fact that if you use a non-popular phone you're pretty much screwed to not be able to use it at all?

@carlll6101

7 ай бұрын

@@sirskyrage they have soft case. Looks like bag and it's ok, gives better weather protection, and there is vice grip. I use both they are ok. I don't know how good they are with keeping your phone camera alive. My cat killed it first :P

Superb revision. I really love watching F9's videos!

I use one of the RAM mounts and have not had any damage to my phones so far. I really like that it doesn't require any particular phone case (you can use your own or none at all) and the extra rubber "wings" are optional in normal street riding (just clamp it into the arms which takes only one second) and you can optionally strap it down if you're doing something rowdy. The flexibility in mounting is great, and you can do complicated or fancy stuff with multiple mounts if you're setting up a touring rig with other gear like map/GPS holders, cupholders, etc and everything interoperates.

I moved on to the Peak Design motorcycle mount (the one with the ball adapter) for my dual sport adventures and it's been the best mount I've had BY FAR. This coming from someone that has used Quad Lock, Ram X-Grip, and some no-name cheapo from Amazon. Seriously they nailed the design with their mounts and cases. You don't even have to think about attaching it to the mount it just snaps into place, and you can easily release your phone with one hand. Only time will tell about their motorcycle vibration dampener, but hey at least it's built in and they're not bending you over a barrel like Quad Lock.

@Scott-sx1bf

7 ай бұрын

“It’s damper”

@JuzNyc

7 ай бұрын

The only problem I have with Peak Design is that their wireless charging mount is non locking. If they made a locking wireless charging mount for motorcycles I'd switch over from quad lock.

@DeeThiien

7 ай бұрын

I agree, I just switched over from Quadlock of 5 years to PD and love it.

I’m glad they added the peak design mount. I’ve been through a bunch of mounts and I (anecdotally) have found the PD to be the best. Easiest to mount/dismount, built in vibration dampener, and the case is actually pretty nice. It includes stronger magnets for MagSafe charging (adds magnets for android phones) and they offer accessories that work with the mount as well. It’s also the most elegant design using actual metal to the positive locking mechanism.

I was trying to re-watch this video yesterday and couldn't find it. Thanks for the update, team!

I’m so glad you remade this! I was wondering why it wasn’t mentioned before and now I’m so glad I have a PD case haha

Still feels not very thorough. Would have liked to see peak designs properly included, would have liked to see vibration tests with the phones on the mounts, kind of pointless to test bare. Lots of details missed. Even though don’t like ram mount they have a new quick connect mount that is apparently good. Also new cases from all manufacturers have recently upped their game. It’s kind of like this is what a video from 2021 would be like if someone who didn’t know much about mounts would do. Would have liked to see what brand was easy to hook up to electrical also as that’s all over the place with costs and complexity.

I agree with the smushy buttons on the QuadLock. However the new case for the iPhone 15 has very snappy button presses. In my personal anecdotal experience, from the three I've owned, QuadLock is improving their case design.

@MotoDash1100

7 ай бұрын

The Quadlock phone specific cases aren't a mandatory requirement either. This video, and the original, both seem to lean towards SP Connect with a bias. Portraying people who care about details and testing as being tinfoil hat nut people, and then also just glossing over the facts that Quadlock doesn't require specific phone cases, as well as actually having a vibration dampener (and then not testing it).

@Agridoce0629

7 ай бұрын

The only unfortunate fact for new 15 series Quadlack case is they don’t co-op well with any other brand for MagSafe charging, doesn’t matter it’s Apple or Apple certified ones. I mean the charging devices is not too bad from Quad lock, but I hate the fact they are not being clear upfront and took away my Possibilities to pick whatever I want.

@TheCat4991

7 ай бұрын

but the buttons become better to press after some time. when i first got my quadlock case the buttons were really hard to press, after over a year it got way easier.

@ryanb6614

7 ай бұрын

i have quadlock for iphone 12 pro and buttons feels fine

@waroftyr87

7 ай бұрын

Experienced exactly the same switching from 13pro with magsafe case to the 15pro with the same case. It no longer works with 90% of my magsafe chargers except quadlocks.@@Agridoce0629

Awesome this team that FortNine has/is putting together... KEEP IT COMING!

Peak Design FTW. After scrutinizing options, and barely stomaching the price, I wouldn't consider anything else. The vibration damping, options for vehicle and home mounts, ease of mounting/unmounting, durability, and design are overall better than the other options...at a price. No issues running it on my Monster for the last year. I do like the RAM Mount ecosystem and still have one in my truck, needing to position my phone very carefully to avoid turning the volume all the way up. I wouldn't use one on my bike for all the reasons. Awesome video, but please do a full review on the Peak Design. I'd like to see what downsides you find.

@commander_lard

7 ай бұрын

agree 100% - I've had all 4 on trial here - the x-grip is great, as fits anything, but bulky and the rubbers will fail eventually - the sp-connect was fine, but I broke several and stripped the threads on the mounts (assume it's the pressed steel riv-but into alu) - the quadlock I first used many years ago, and was perfectly happy with, but the new mag-safe cases don't work with Apple's mag-chargers... it's a well discussed issue - 3rd party chargers seem to be o.k. ..... returned all my new mag-safe quadlock for a refund - then found Peak Designs.... the cases are a step above the SP & Quad, the mount is excellent, no twisting required, with the options e.t.c. being fantastic - recommend the peak design system

@ritterkeks

7 ай бұрын

I was really looking forward after having upgraded my phone to buy a dedicated case with high quality mounts for the various vehicles... however I was quite disappointed to see that PD is still just "working on" a moto mount with built-in wireless charging... now that my phone comes with the capability I really do not want to mess around with cables everytime I put it on or take it off

wait, why I feel a dejavu here?

@emmettturner9452

7 ай бұрын

Happened with the glove review too. New guy missed something too big to ignore.

@MrSnowMen

7 ай бұрын

was it the red pill?

@emmettturner9452

7 ай бұрын

@@MrSnowMen Namely, he dinged the QuadLock for something the SP Connect has too merely because QuadLock was the only one with a page emphasizing the importance. Furthermore, he took that good-faith information and used it against them, misrepresenting what was on the page by claiming the issue only affects QuadLock. I don’t have either and I will probably get the SP Connect anyway, but I was still one of the ones calling them out for it. How do you turn a positive into a negative?! Breaking: While I was writing this the video got to 6:49 where he again says that QuadLock’s page says that using a QuadLock on certain motorcycles can damage phones. The page says nothing of the kind. It says that the vibrations on certain motorcycles are known for damaging phones without some kind of vibration dampening whether they are in a QuadLock or not. It could even happen in a tank bag. It’s a shame they still didn’t fix this error.

Thank you so much for re-tackling this topic. Well done.

Man this video is so great on so many levels. The hilarious script, set, and props for the segment starting at 7:10. And I ever expected to see a reference to the great POWDERED TOAST MANNNNN in a KZread video!😂 Keep up the awesome work guys!

This! This is what we have come to expect from F9! I'm going to stick with my quadlock and vibration damper, but thank you for the thorough testing!

important thing for the RAM mount - for users of specific phones that have power/volume buttons in the wrong spot, the RAM mount squeezes on them and makes your phone unusable unless you reposition it weird. For that reason I use the QuadLock and im happy with it besides the fact that I don't know what wizardry it takes to put it on the mount with one, ungloved hand.

@DJPTEXAS

7 ай бұрын

And it is much more secure than the Quad Lock......@@sys-administrator

@Rocky_Hill_Iron_Works

7 ай бұрын

@@sys-administrator Totally agree, the Quick-Grip is the best phone mount ever, I don't know why they even still make the X-grip.

@-TheRealChris

7 ай бұрын

@@sys-administrator Yep Quick-Grip is the best, mine is on my dirt bike and I've jumped it, smashed into big ruts i didn't see in the shadows, pin-balled down rocky single track, hopped logs, you name it, it's never moved. Works with my phone in its bulky waterproof case and is the fastest/easiest to remove and replace the phone from, it's perfect, their X-grip however is terrible, I don't know why they still make it and don't know why it was in this review.

@ZenoLee0

7 ай бұрын

There are options for mounts that reposition the arms to accommodate buttons. The ecosystem is huge

@DownhillSnail

7 ай бұрын

@@-TheRealChris Another vote for the Quick-Grip, it's the best, another thing to note is it lets you move the pins around to give access to your phones button layout and avoid unintentionally pressing them, unlike the X-grip.

Another great video, it's great that you reposted an edited video with additional information

Bar mount redux is great. Thanks to the f9 team for caring enough to retest things for their viewers. Shows so much respect for the moto community.

Team Peak Design here. I have two of their motorcycle mounts. Hands-down the best in my opinion.

@magaudion

7 ай бұрын

Agreed

@csn583

7 ай бұрын

And how many of the others have you tried?

@TazawaTanks

7 ай бұрын

@@csn583 like 4-5 various brands/mounts. PD, QL, Ram, and a couple of Amazon types.

@iamacheezit

7 ай бұрын

Agree +100

@adiohead

7 ай бұрын

Sold out in the UK

I love the Quad Lock, have them on my motorcycles, mountain bike, road bike, and cars. Crashed while riding on the track, and the phone stayed in place, same while mountain biking.

Reuploading to correct your methodology is why you're trusted. Thanks.

Thanks for doing this, immediatly liked the video after the updated section.

I love the X-Grip for its ease of use and quick attachment to any phone with any case, plus the wide range of Ram Mount accessories you can use it with. I use it on my DR650 and it has never let go of my phone, (and I don't even bother with the extra rubber holder), both on rough pothole filled roads, and dumping the bike while offroad and pretending to be riding a 250cc dirtbike. It has, however, killed the optical image stabilizer in two iPhones, so there definitely must be some decent vibration going on.

@shhmule

7 ай бұрын

The iPhone is your problem. And how do you manage the RAM having rubber bands over the screen? It looks like they strap directly over where the Back and Apps buttons sit on the screen, so you'd have a hard time navigating thru menus.

You don't have to use the Quad Lock case, there are stick on thingies too. I don't mind the case though. It feels pretty tough without adding much bulk and the ring thing is useful for the 99.99% of the time that it isn't mounted to something. I think my favourite feature is that the common components are actually widely available and the less common parts ship quickly within Australia.

@TonySims888

6 ай бұрын

I'm a Quadlock user, but I see Peak has an adhesive mount too.

@voxaeternus1157

4 ай бұрын

Not to mention you have to use the sick on mounts if you don't have supported phone like Samsung or iPhone

Me: "I'm not a kid anymore!" Also, me: "Haha. Big rubber cone funny"

😂 love the video, funny and informative at the same time. JOB Well done 👏

I bought an X Grip because I don't have an Iphone and I couldn't find a case for the other mounts that require one. I was not much of a fan of the X Grip, because it's a bit of a pain to get the phone mounted up. I ended up buying the Quick-Grip phone mount they make and it's WAY better! Quick one hand install, grips hard, never came close to falling out. No idea how the X Grip gets so much attention. The lesser known mount is superior.

I ride a unicycle, what Mount would you recommend?

@muddywater6856

7 ай бұрын

Gender?

@krinos1

7 ай бұрын

@@muddywater6856unisexual

@csn583

7 ай бұрын

Probably something in the same aisle as that big black silicone object. Preferably non-vibrating, and hold on tight.

I’m liking the content variety keep em comin

That was funny! Good work. The best channel on youtube atm.

Love the content as usual. Would have been cool if you had also tested Mounts from Mous. Easier to mount than the some of the listed competitors.

@brianhaygood183

7 ай бұрын

It shouldn't matter. No sane person should be buying any product from someone whose entire marketing campaign is screaming as loud as they can while they throw things.

@dw3drey

7 ай бұрын

@@brianhaygood183 Mous products actually work as advertised if you bother to filter out the screaming and just focused on the results.

Ram has the “quick grip” which while bulky, is my go to. I’ve put them in all my work trucks and most my motorcycles.

@KevinSmith-qi5yn

7 ай бұрын

I use the quick grip as well. I don't worry about vibrations on my street bike that isn't a Harley. The main issue with it is that you need to readjust it for a different phone. This usually isn't an issue for most users.

@csn583

7 ай бұрын

​@@KevinSmith-qi5yn Only if they have different button positions I suppose, and you can probably find a position for the side pegs that fits multiple devices. Only need one per side.

@tron121

7 ай бұрын

i flip the quick grip over, so that i push the phone down to insert it. This is easier, and does not push the sleep button my my pixel on the mount's side post when inserting!@@csn583

@furiousgeorge00

7 ай бұрын

I have no idea why you guys used the old X-Grip and not the newer Quick Grip from Ram Mount. That said I can confirm that the Quick grip damaged not one but 3 iPhones before I clued into what was breaking the cameras. (Warrantied the phone) Funny enough my Yamaha FJ09 did not damage the phone but my DRZ did. Same mount was used on both bikes. I now live with a damaged iPhone 11 camera. Good news is that once broken it doesn’t get any worse.

I used a Peak Design with my new 14ProMax this season. No issues, no damage and MEGA easy on/off.. All the best from Calgary!

Normal, IL? That's one of the last things I expected in a video from FortNine. I grew up not far from there. Oh, and the video was awesome as usual. Keep up the quality work, fellas!

You're still claiming that the quad lock vibration mount is an extra 60 dollars investment, when your own screenshot shows that it only costs CAD$25

Not Tested: RAM Quick Grip - 100% phone retention, no required after thought rubber band of the RAM X-Grip, and doesn't require a specialized phone case so there's easy access to the buttons.

@glennbukac7533

7 ай бұрын

I own two of them on my Klr650 and tiger 900 rp. One handed install or remove from mount.

@Mrcool179

3 ай бұрын

This is best one

Funniest episode in a while...love the comedy...this guy is comedic gold.

Other videomakes and reviewers can learn a lot from how F9 handles critique. Well done once again.

Have used the SP Connect on my Triumph for years now. I wanted something secure but not obtuse in terms of design. All machined aluminum to boot.

I'm little disappointed that Peak Design and Mous Case still not make it to the test part of this remake video, they both have vibration dampening build in their mounts and their cases feels a lot nicer too

@MahsinurRahmanLava

7 ай бұрын

did you watch the video? Peak design was their recommendation

@CKfaro

7 ай бұрын

@@MahsinurRahmanLava Did you read the message? I said test video

@_Makanko_

7 ай бұрын

@@CKfaro They did test the Peak Design for the vibration accelerometer thing. It's the fourth in the list of their data shown. It's true they did not do a MTB run with it though. Still no love for the Mous case.

@MahsinurRahmanLava

7 ай бұрын

@@CKfaro bro it was on the chart,,,, its a edited together video they did the best they could

Thanks for the re-upload! Was confused when seeing the original video (because as you said: both face the issue). Curious for the results :)

Thanks as always chaps. Having used my Quad Lock for some years with no discernible damage to my camera I bought a damper anyway for only $25au and continue to be happy but with greater piece of mind. And definitely Zed...

I bought a TACKFORM and can't recommend it enough. The vibration dambing is stock. Custom service is awesome as well. There is nothing to attach to the phone. The mount is incredibly secure.

Having the SP-Connect with the regular vibration module(which you can just order here in the Netherlands BTW) I like it, it works well, simply, reliable, very adjustable.

@jorelplay8738

7 ай бұрын

I used SP connect bicycle phone mount (bought for 30€) and I already clocked over 25.000 km on the street. Zero problems, no broken camera (yet)

@lucamarcspieletv

7 ай бұрын

@@jorelplay8738A bicycle does not vibrate like a motorcylce. Why would ur camera be broken :D ?

What legends! Great testing!

Less than a minute in and I'm obligated to give this video a thumbs up, all because the great humour. Great job!

We're ready for a new motorcycle review!

Been using the ram mount for almost 8 years and never had any issues with vibration damage or screen visibility from shaking, plus its been compatible with the 3 different motorcycles I have had over the years as well as compatible with the different phones I have had. with the ram mount I can buy a less popular phone and not worry if the mount company is going to make a case for it. While I agree that the ram mount is a bulky solution that's not necessarily going work for everyone I think the video severely under values the high universal fit of the ram x mount along with under estimating the value of a buy it once and use it for 8 plus years solution the ram mount can be.

Awesome video as always

Damn, you guys not only value us but you guys also answered all the issues we had!

Perhaps this guy will grow on me over time……..

Out the the couple I've tried and used, quadlock is by far the best, I added the ($25) vibration damper and I've never had an issue with camera damage. The buttons at least on all of the galaxy phones I've had have never felt mushy, they've always been super tight and snappy.

You two are the best 😄 great team and good sense of humor together

Yay you included the peak design one! Well done

What happened lol.. we want a re-retest 😂

Any difference between the previous one?

@veeeeheeee

7 ай бұрын

past 7:09 they do more vibration testing and add an extra product that does the best

Love the new hosts. Well done team.

Thanks for the retest lads!

As someone who lives in Denmark where there's a LOT of bicycles, and not a lot of motorcycles, it's awesome to see cycling-usable content here too!

Phone goes in your pocket. Eyes go on the road.

The video I needed for so long. As it happens I bought the SP connect before watching this as it was a good deal on Black Friday. So I watched this with fear that I’d bought the wrong product. I bought it because it looked well built, sleek and subtle on the bars. Now I’m yet to try it as it’s winter and I’m not that brave. Thanks F9 - another great video.

Never thought I’d need to ask a motorcycle channel to make motorcycle videos

U already uploaded this

@emmettturner9452

7 ай бұрын

No, they uploaded a deeply flawed test that forced them to retest.

@gigajames

7 ай бұрын

@@emmettturner9452 oh

@emmettturner9452

7 ай бұрын

@@gigajames The same thing happened when the other new guy did the gloves video. ;) Glad they are willing to do things like this.

11:59 Can someone please explain to me how you can have (on average) 218% less of something? This would entail negative vibrations... The data itself is not intuitive either. Why are you comparing standard deviations as the main variables instead of averages? Why do you have one value of standard deviation even though you tested multiple RPM scenarios? What do the numbers and relations in the table actually mean? What is the test based on? That is excluding the million different variables that would change because you don't have a controlled environment. I really appreciate that the previous video was taken down and retested, but this still feels inadequate support.

@LukasHalda

7 ай бұрын

I was also thinking that the amplitude may not be the killer for the camera, but rather the acceleration. (Or jerk/shock? I'm not up to date on my physics, I mean the force pulling stuff faster in a different direction than its inertia.) You could expect the higher the amplitude, the higher the acceleration, but what if multiple smaller vibrations were dampened into one with higher amplitude but smaller force exerted on the camera? Edit: I may have misunderstood the video at first, thinking he's saying more deviation = bad, while actually his claim was more deviation = good. I'm still unsure what their conclusion really was though, and I replayed it couple times. The methodology there isn't very clear to me.

@CaptainChrom

7 ай бұрын

​@@LukasHaldathats exactly what the vibration dampeners do. Especially the one from quad lock. Its translates the many high frequency vibrations into höher frequemcy vibrations. This causes the mount to actually be more shaky causing the phone to wobble around more, but protects the OIS from the high frequencies which would destroy it. The OIS itself is a mount for the camera lens, which can be magnetically controlled to change the direction oft the lens. When it is exposed to very high frequencies the shaking caused by them cause it to move too much until it breaks. You can think of it like a bridge breaking itself apart due to strong winds in the right frequency, or a washing machine disassembling itself when a stone is put inside it causing it to vibrate uncontrollably.

@LukasHalda

7 ай бұрын

​@@CaptainChromYes, that's what I meant, not sure I explained correctly. With that in mind, how does "standard deviation in the change of angle over XYZ axis" say anything about damage protection? Meaning the more wobble (deviation), the less high frequency vibration and the more protection? Can't it still get into resonance and actually exert more acceleration on the OIS mechanism?

@abhibeckert

3 ай бұрын

Pretty he meant 218% *more* on the SP Connect, but flipped around... so the Peak has about half as much vibration compared to the next best one they tested. Matches the charts as well. But really, why nit pick this stuff? Just get the one with the least vibration. And maybe pay for accidental damage cover as well.

Love the production, great video in every aspect :) 4.36 LOOOOOOOL🤣

I love this new guy I've been watching for a while as a mountain biker because these videos are so good 👍

May I suggest a re-re-test, mounting the mounts to a trial bike?

i went to the apple store with a broken iphone camera. The guy at the desk says "what kind of motorcycle do you ride?

Awesome work boys!

This is brilliant content. Please do more frequent videos.

Good job updating with new info. I use QuadLock, I don't think it should come standard with the vibration dampener. If it did, the overall cost would increase and you don't always need one. I have a mount in my car, mountain bike and motorcycle, I only need damping on my MC. I do prefer the look of the Peak design option, however, they don't offer wireless charging for the motorcycle yet. As I'm already into the QuadLock ecosystem it's unlikely I'll change.

@csn583

7 ай бұрын

*damping

@fen2453

17 күн бұрын

Exact same belief for me too.

If you accidentally splash a few drops of fuel on your quad lock while refueling, it will melt in about a minute, and your phone falls off. Ask me how I know 😕

Thanks for the re-review, it didn't answer the issues I had, but at least it was a good follow up. And I hope the host didn't take it personally or get crap for it, I don't think it was really his fault and he is a good presenter.

I have the quadlock mag case for the iPhone 15 Pro Max, and it actually has improved buttons that aren't part of the case so they don't feel mushy at all. I don't know if it's a design they're going with for newer phones, or if this is just how the mag cases come, but I haven't had any complaints about the case other than it being kind of thick and heavy. Quadlock is pretty expensive, but like RAM its an ecosystem with different mounts and accessories to choose from. I have the windscreen car mount with the mag charge head and it's straight up the most solid car mount I've ever used. You can also get the "ponchos" that are like a clear second case that snaps onto the front of your phone to give it more protection.

@pocketlint82

7 ай бұрын

One major benefit of the poncho is that rain doesn't cause your screen to go haywire nearly as bad as having no poncho. Even though the phone is waterproof, I use the poncho in the rain for that reason

On the subject of fixing mistakes, the quadlock vibration damper is $20, not an extra $60 as stated in the video at about 7:00

@jonathond.1120

7 ай бұрын

This is a Canadian channel, perhaps it's $60 CAD which is sadly about $20 USD with all the exchange fees all the purchase platforms tend to add on for funzies. Also extra thumbs up for being the only person not using the incorrect term "dampening".

I've been through the gamut myself and bought most of these mounts at some point over the last few years. the ram mount was too big and bulky, and the rubber thing is super annoying to put on. But ram ball mounts are by far the best. I've settled on the quad lock BUT I hate the default arm they sell. I ended up getting ram ball mount and arm (metal version) . then quad lock sells a ram ball that bolts directly to the back of the wireless charging motorcycle head (with the vibration damper). They now sell a 12v one, but I wired mine through the battery disconnect that also runs my fog lights so it will turn off automatically with the ignition, with an sae 2 pole adapter to female USB, then ran the waterproof type A to type C cable the charger comes with up under the tank. One big thing for me as well is that I have the same mount in my car so my phone mounts to both easily and charges just by being on the mount.

Back at it with another video 🤘

Super happy that bicycles are on the channel now too

Déjà vu

The quad lock button feel is actually much better with the newest version for Iphone 15. That doesn't rescue it in this case but it is a note. Also I think the reason that the vibration dampener doesn't come with it, is because when it first launched, optical image stabilization wasn't the norm on most phones. It shouldn't be that expensive tho.

@mt09madness

7 ай бұрын

In Australia the vibration dampener is $20

Thanks for redoing an already great job. There's two generations of the SP Connect System and when I was riding 1200 kilometres in 4 days on the old one, without vibration damper, it did indeed kill my iPhones optical stabilizer, so taking pictures was, ahm, strange afterwards. The new system looks different and is built differently.

Wow, I like the revisit with more data and now wish you linked the peak design!

Again?

Bike on back over to motorcycles¡

I’ve had a TackForm mount on my Africa Twin for years, never has my phone come loose or fallen off, lots of off-road riding and drops. Should do a review of that one.

I have a cheap one by oxford, were you stick the second part just to your phone or the case you want to use and it works pretty good. No idea about vibrations though.

Side note. Riding 30+ years. My phone lives in my pocket. ANY distraction can kill. Riding = 100% focus. Good luck. Long time sub.