Regarding the bidet -- I have tried the Culo Clean and the Holey Hiker, and I like the Holey Hiker better. Better aim, better cleaning pressure, and a much smaller size. I find it to be more effective and less cumbersome than the Culo Clean. I can easily use the Holey Hiker on a regular toilet, too, making it great for not just outside use. The Culo Clean is a little large to strategically place when using an actual toilet, due to the seat's hole restricting reach.

What I find most interesting is that you have a "2021" poop kit. It's kinda like an album release.

@robbyirwin4846

3 жыл бұрын

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@DanaMcClellan

2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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I'm going to try out that bidet this year as well :) Being a women I think it will be helpful if I'm out during my period as well.

I just use wipes and pack them out in used snack zip lock bags. Also in my kit; Gold Bond powder, sanitizer, and Calmoseptine ointment. I think this bidet is a game changer for many.....hope it becomes "mainstream" for those who would use it if they knew about it. Cheers

My poop kit is pretty much the same as yours but I'm using Dr. Bronners soap instead of hand sanitizer. I keep the hand sanitizer on my pack strap for other uses.

I love the little travel towels....first saw these on an RV living channel couple of years ago. Great for backpacking, car camping, and much more! I use them for bathing in the backcountry!!

Important backpacking issue that should be discussed. I do bring a lot of t.p. because I am a lady nearing senior category and seem to go 3x more than anyone I am hiking with. Used my hiking pole for digging but finally got one of those trowels about a year ago and is a game changer. Also on east coast use some soft leaves behind t.p. to lessen paper amount. Especially find spice bush and white birch plentiful. Lastly always take in a separate zip top baggy flushable baby wipes. You can leave them out to dry out and then rehydrate with a splash of drinking water. This helps greatly with the cleaning effort. I have also gotten decomposing paper from a local marine store that is typically used on boat with portable toilet. Really enjoy your content John! Thanks

I brought a bidet for the first time last trip. It worked great, but be sure to give it a try at home first. I tried a few different kinds before settling on the CuloClean.

Added the backpacking bidet This year to my kit. Have used it the last three trips. Its well worth having

I carry the main 3 that you carry but I like my TP to be the tight compact backpacking rolls hiking stores sell. I do own those Wisy Wipes but always thought they were a waste compared to cloth, but now you have given me a use for them that may allow me to stretch my TP use. Hand sanitizer is for after poo while I save soap for back at camp.

A bidet is great because toilet paper doesn't disintegrate very fast. I think a mix of bidet and those tiny towels is pretty good Edit: thank you for the video!

Bidet #2 is great! I love mine (and love it enough that I am giving up TP on the Trail)

I have a walking stick with one end shaped like a trowel. It works pretty well and it's dual use!

Hey John man how's it going man. My poop kit it's kind of the same but I used dissolve boat tissue that way it dissolves in the ground. I was told that was one of the best to use. I do carry bottles of sanitizer with me just for that & I have another bottle of sanitizer for other use. I keep myself sanitized. Great video man. This is very important information.

I love my bidet it’s a game changer ! the wysi wipe brand is biodegradable and compostable. I use the bidet then one wipe to check for dirt then back on trail to enjoy my day.

Mine is the trowel, toilet paper and wet wipes, both of them just in case I run out of hand sanitizer or it's really sensitive down there, soap and pretty soon a portable bidet as well to see if I can take some things out

I'll have give a bidet a try. Tim Watson will love this video! 😅

I have yet to crap in the woods after backpacking for years. Last hike I went on I had to go so bad but couldn't get it to happen 😂

You can’t bury toilet paper everywhere. It decomposes at different rates depending on the soil. It’s usually ok east of the Mississippi, but many places out west require it to be packed out. It’s always good to check the regulations where you’re going. I bring Dr Bronners soap. Sanitizer kills the germs, but it doesn’t necessarily remove the stuff. 😯 I want to try a bidet, and have one just like the cheap one you showed. I understand how they work for cleaning yourself, but haven’t wrapped my head around how to avoid accidentally getting your pants wet in the process. Seems like between your ankles is prime real estate for where some water could land. 🤔

Deuce of spades (3 years, well-used, and mine still looks great too), T.P., baby wipes, a Ziploc for used T.P./wipes, and hand sanitizer. Just saw that black bidet on Garage Grown Gear website, but on my next trip am trying out a small squeeze bottle I already have on hand - so I'm not carrying a lot of extra water and have a dedicated #2 bottle. Should be interesting!

Another good video. I thought you were going to include the clip of your daughter about being a real hiker when you were talking about becoming a real backpacker. I know it wasn't #2 but that was adorable. Double duty trowel - can be used in the campfire to move coals for cooking/heating food, move ashes around. Realistically, digging the hole and filling it back in, the trowel doesn't touch the 'pile' unless you accidently uncover someone else's. Even if your aim is bad and you miss the hole, you can use a stick or rock to move the matter into the hole and not 'dirty' the trowel that you will be putting back into your pack. TP - some people just use more than others. 'Natural' TP - leaves of three leave them be. ;-) I take some castile soap with me. Either a small amount of liquid or part of a solid bar. Although it's in my poop kit, it's not actually for #2 clean-up. It's just in case I get into some poison ivy. I want to be able to get the oils off me as soon as I know I've been exposed.

I use a smooth rock. 😳😳

"The Deuce" is a pretty good tool. I've had a different brand trowel break when... I really needed it to not break. It was not a great situation. Y'all don't get something fancy. Get something that won't break. I like the Sea to Summit wipes as well. Gotta pack them out, but they are nice small packages.

I ha e the 3 pack of the soft bidet nozzles and if you squeeze for good pressure. It wants to blow out of the bottle. I’m curious about the other design.

I carry a repurposed lime juice bottle for washing up. It has a plastic insert at the top which converts it to a squeeze bottle. It could probably be used as a bidet. It can definitely be used to wash hands. I much prefer real handwashing with soap rather than sanitizers. One thing most people don’t consider is that water weighs more than wipes & TP. Yes, I am carrying water anyway, but my drinking water is separate from my hygiene bottle. Even if it was not, that is more water that must be carried. While a bidet is probably better for the skin and the environment, I would not switch to that solely for weight reduction.

@SemiMono

5 ай бұрын

Yes in some sense it's not a weight reduction, but in another sense, you already need a means to refill water, close to daily. If you're on a longer trip, having the whole trip's worth of TP or wipes might weigh about as much as a day or two's worth of washing water. But yeah, overall not really a weight savings, if not a slight weight gain.

"Dude Wipes" and I pack 'em out.

I got some of those wisy wipes from amazon after seeing them on one of your new gear 2021 review videos awhile back. I was fully bought in until the moment i used them! Lol it was like i was using sand paper to wipe. Haha

Wow! You lost a lot of weight. You look great John!

So do use a separate water bottle or the dirty water bottle or the clean water bottle????

I have never felt right burying my TP. I always pack it out. I have a ziplock inside my ziplock for the TP and wipes I use.

Hey John- do the Wysi Wipes come with “aloe” or anything similar that are in baby wipes, or are they just plain with nothing extra?

@maggislayton

3 жыл бұрын

I bought regular ones and love them. I'm not sure if they come with alone or anything like that but the regular ones are fantastic.

Travel size Gold Bond powder is good for freshening things up

same kit I carry but i have 2 extra zip lock bags to pack it out. Stay safe my friend and don't step in it. POOP POOP POOP

Great video JK, thanks for sharing. Started to experiment with a bidet this year as well. I’ve has good results.! The higher the pressure the better the results. For those thinking of trying, add a bidet to your normal kit and see how it goes. That’s what I did. First time used TP and Wissey Wipes. After a few times, I’m getting ready to leave TP home. Bonus: less occurrences of monkey butt after “rinsing”. Remember, more pressure better results.

@gregpatterson134

2 жыл бұрын

which water bottle did you find works best. regular bottles are krinkly and little hard to squeeze, need something more pliable. thank

@NinerK

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregpatterson134 I used HydraPak 500l soft bottle.

@NinerK

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregpatterson134 weird…I keep trying to post the REI item number but it won’t post. Anyway the bottle is kind of a flask looking soft bottle, works well with a bidet

As a bushcrafter, I use feather sticks to wipe my two. and burn it at another controlled fire pit.

I bring a travel bidet. there is sometimes back splash and fecal matter sometimes rebounds onto the bidet. I do not want my water bottle part that operation. a bidet is a bidet and it is awesome and a water bottle is a water bottle. each has it's own purpose. saving weight is not worth getting sick. I finish the job with one or two sheets of TP and then pack out that TP, it is 99% of the time clean. I used soap to wash. sanitizer does not remove fecal material. however, i do bring sanitizer as well, before meals. more is better. great videos

I'm seeing a lot more people using portable bidets. I've also just got a portable urinal so you don't have to leave your tent in the middle of the night.

TP and wipes. Ya think a water pistol would work?

I am late to the game on this video - just started watching John Kelley a month or so ago. In case anyone does peruse these comments, one thing I bring has not been mentioned here. I bring a few dark color doggy poop bags to pack out my moist wipes. When done with my business, I'll use a wipe as needed and then put into a single doggy bag. I'll tie it tight, then fold over the top and tie it again - effectively double bagging it. Then put in a small ziploc. Now I don't have to look at a soiled wipe and I can open up that disposal ziploc multiple times without having to expose my previous wipes either visually or by odor. The weight is insignificant.

I started carrying "soap sheets" after learning that hand sanitizer doesn't kill some bacteria, such as norovirus. Plain soap & water does the job though.

I bring about 3 or 4 of the cheap fold-top sandwich bags(the ultra light ones with no zipper).....I hav e them so I can put the used wet wipes in one to help carry them back to my backpack and trash bag, cause I always forget to bring my trash bag with me and hate carrying used butt wipes with my bare hands,, with me back to my pack

Awesome video! My poop kit: duce of spades, toilet paper and Summit Suds (for obvious reasons 😉). I love the idea of a bidet because you're leaving less "trash" in the backcountry. I'm just afraid of getting back splash on water bottle, shoes etc. For those of you that use only a backcountry bidet, how do you get "dry" when you don't bring toilet paper?

@nancyalmeidacrocker7618

3 жыл бұрын

Air dry for number one and baby wipe for number two

@pikaoutdoors7414

3 жыл бұрын

@@nancyalmeidacrocker7618 Good to know!

Hey John, We are heading out west next week, Mt Whitney and some miles in the PCT JMT, and they require you to carry a wag bag to pack out your poop while on Whitney. I’m kinda looking forward to the experience….strange, yes.

Huh! The WYSI Wipes say they're biodegradable and compostable from the link you provided. Cool!

I really like your down to earth but funny way of discussing these types of subjects. I actually have a couple questions for you about proper etiquette on the trail. The experts say not to cook at your campsite, and all smelly products go in a bear bag, all to prevent bears and other animals from bothering you and seeing humans as food dispensers. But I see in AT videos people are cooking at shelters. Also, many thru hikers dont bring extra clothes, so what are they sleeping in? Not only for bear safety, but also to protect your gear, I have always been taught to NOT sleep in the same clothes you wore while cooking, as you dont want your clothes to smell like your food. You also dont want to sleep in the same clothes you hiked in as all the sweat dirt and moisture is bad for your gear (sleeping bags, hammocks, etc). I have also read you should store your toothpaste in the bear bag too. But when you brush your teeth, where do you spit all that foamy paste? Same as the cooking, it should not be near where you sleep. But what do all these people at the shelters do? or while dispersed camping around the trail? Thanks for your input.

Buy a bidet for your toilet at home. It's a little weird in the beginning, but I am always disappointed when I don't have one now.

I like Wet Ones , Baby Wipes , Cottonelle or even the Tucks medicated pads in the small reseal packs. Carry out in a Freezer bag , zip lock. They can also be used to freshen up ( Affectionately called a Spit Shower ). My trowel is one of the orange plastic ones from the dark ages. Florida is 90 % sand. My wife got me one of the UST U-Dig-It Stainless Steel Folding Shovels with pouch. It's to heavy and stays home it's the thought that counted. I'm wondering if anyone who try's the Bidet would ever report they got it confused with their drinking water bottle. My concern would be using it during the winter.

@nancyalmeidacrocker7618

3 жыл бұрын

I carry a lightweight separate bidet that does not require attaching to the water bottle

Once you try the bidet, you will only need the bidet, 1 ply of paper towel and hand sanitizer (for just in case) for every poop sesion. Even at home I installed a bidet on my toilet and never used toilet paper again. One ply of paper towel is enough. Cheers.

I take a culoclean instead of tp and I love it. Wysi wipes are a godsend, been using them for a year now. thanks again for the recommendation

The red one works much better.

I shopped around on Amazon and found biodegradable " wussy wipes" I also got that 3 pack of bidets

Biodegradable wipes and hand sanitizer always works for me. I tried the bidet once and didn’t like it. I just can’t get used to it and pants kept getting wet. But to each their own. Let us all know how it works out for you.

Baby wipes for me. 👍

Thanks for talking about this topic

I switched to the Vargo Titanium trowel and I have never looked back. Lol. No, seriously it is easy on the hands because the edges are rounded and it is serrated which makes cutting through roots a lot easier. I can dig my cat hole much easier and faster then with the Duece. And sometimes it is very important to dig fast. I doubt I will try the bodet.

@JustinOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

I can't go back to a Deuce after using the Vargo DigDig . Those serrated edges are phenomenal if you encounter rooty soils.

@MagooHikes

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustinOutdoors I was thinking about it, and I believe it was one of your videos that convinced me to try the Vargo DigDig. Thanks!

And to save on weight it can also double as a spoon!! WHOOHOO!!

@john_kelley

3 жыл бұрын

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@kimberlymayo9951

3 жыл бұрын

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Encourage people to pack out ALL TOILET PAPER - DON'T BURY. The fact is, TP on the trail is extremely gross. It's not that hard - just devote a ziplock to the task. Especially in sensitive alpine environs, burying your TP is not acceptable IMO.

So, question on the "BIDET". You just strip down from the waist down? Think'n even maybe my shoes?? HELP?? lol

Is there really such a thing as “too much tp?”🤔 Thanks for sharing how people should poop responsibly! It matters🤙

Bidet problem Xtra water bottle Carrying the xtra water in the water bottle. Not going to save any weight unless you were carrying 2.3 lbs of toilet paper. 1L of water is 2.2 lbs.

@deborahhill3105

3 жыл бұрын

This! Either you’re carrying extra water or using your drinking water. Wouldn’t want to do that on certain hikes.

Unscented baby wipes has been my all purpose do all companion for years. Note: also, non-biodegradable, must go out.

Well, this is one of the subjects I don't have to think about. We are not allowed to do anything in the woods here (not even pie) or we will get a hughe penalty.

Never can have enough TP.

@halfpinthiker6568

2 жыл бұрын

Some people just don't get it. Ghost poop vs .......

@HuckOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

@@halfpinthiker6568 or pack out the TP you hiked in.

Don't bury TP. Pack it out, please.

When I tell non hikers that I have a poop kit i always get strange looks until explain myself

Good content but ALWAYS PACK OUT YOUR PAPER…. sorry to be so abrupt but just came out of the John Muir wilderness and found old poop paper an animal had dug up, no bueno! Other than that, keep up the good content ✌🏻

No need to buy a bidet. Just repurpose a nozzle from somewhere else. Mine came from a bottle of Sriracha. (Be sure to clean that REALLY well!)

@DanaMcClellan

2 жыл бұрын

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I like the idea of the bidet, I use one at home with my toilet but in the woods where sometimes you are limited in water supply wasting the water on my butt hole...I don't know about that, I would most likely use the toilet paper or the pills. But hey that is indeed a good idea and if I know I am going where the supply of water is not limited sure I will give it a try.

4:20. I like to use those big hogweed leaves.

Trowel, bidet tip, sanitizer, and three of those same dehydrated wipes…. but only for cleaning emergencies. Once you’re used to using bidets at home using just tp is freaking gross, especially for days on trail. LNT all the way.

I use the monkey method and fling it at the nearest person.

Milosh kit have include pinecone for tough jobs of scrape and "Brrrrllltttt, Brrrrllltttt!" (sound she make when the scraping)

Sooooo you don't bring "poop" in your poop kit???? I've been doing it wrong this whole time!!!

Burry it and forget it, if your ever in the woods digging, don’t do it in a really good spot to “2”

You don't bury your TP .. You pack it out.

Do NOT bury toilet paper. Regardless of what you use, you need to pack it out.

I bring something to dig, toiletpaper, a can with holes and a fire steel/bic lighter. Dig a hole ;-), do your business. Wipe, clean and put the used paper in the can loosely, cover up te hole and ignite the paper. Walk away swinging the can like some catholic priest giving last rites to your dump. Smelly? Just a bit and no more than carrying it out. Why not bury? Well when teepee gets wet (so not dissolved and rain doesn't dissolve it) it dries up hard and stays there, so it doesn't break down. So never bury it. Fire hazard? No, not when you make small holes in the can. Nothing ever escapes but smoke, which does keep the stingy critters away btw. The end result is fine white ash which can be scattered when the can is cold to the touch. Bidet is better? Bidets can be more hygienic when you have enough water to use it. But more often than not I tend to have to cope with minimal amounts of water. Since I sweat a lot I need to drink 4 liter (about a gallon) of water when I,m not doing anything active. So when I hike I need to drink a lot and water is not always abundant. BTW a single wet wipe can burn away too as long as it's combined with enough toiletpaper. The can is extra volume? Yes and no, yes it outer size is bigger but you can fill it with other stuff. Can't do that with a bidet. Also I use the can as support, tiny table or a wood burner is needed.

TP goes away much much faster than biodegradable wipes./ c'mon man use the creek.