I've owned a dozen or more chainsaws and have always found the Stihl and Husqvarna's to be the best and they performed well in your tests. Another important factor for me is the ability to get parts, shops that can fix them and how good they are after they break and get fixed. Another important reason to go with the two mentioned...

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@jasonpatterson8091

Жыл бұрын

This was exactly what I was thinking. There are multiple Stihl repair shops in my area - the Salem Master did well, but I can't see a plastic chainsaw holding up long term, and it's going to be more or less disposable at that price point.

@GordyBro

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarmmy dad has owned a Husqvarna 455 Rancher for about 13 years now. Every year we’ve used it to cut all of our wood for the winter, here in upstate New York. The saw is an absolute beast, and has never gone up against something it couldn’t cut. The new Husqvarna saws just aren’t built the same as they were.

@jayss10

Жыл бұрын

That is an excellent point that I wish folks would consider more often than price point. Service after the sale is HUGE with something like a chainsaw. If you have a really good Stihl dealer nearby you buy Stihls which is what we did. I would suspect people that have good Echo or Husky dealers would do the same. I can't tell you how many times as a kid growing up on a small farm that we would be out clearing fence lines etc and we would have a problem with a saw and Dan would take it in and have it going again within a day or two (usually a gunked up oiler or contaminated fuel). A saw is one of those tools that for most folks it sits idle in the shed/garage for 99% of the time. But when you need it, YOU NEED IT...

@7eis

Жыл бұрын

For some reason most people ignore cost of ownership with garden tools and only focus on mpg of their SUV 😅

As a former professional rural lineman, I must tell you that the little points have another purpose. When cutting larger demension material there is a trick with the points. Let the chain pull the barbs into the wood, with a little added force, then gently pull up on the rear handle rotating the bar and chain into the cut, let it rock 20 degrees, then slide the bar/chain back a couple of inches, then stab it in again. Keep the bar rocking as you go thru--try it.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@garyny4073

Жыл бұрын

Jeffrey - " u are the lineman for the county, and u drive the main roads , searching in the darkness for an other overload , I hear u singing in wire , I can see through the vines and the Witchita lineman is still on the linnnnne " ! Glen Campbell - Witchita Lineman

@joetroutt7425

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I was going to mention that but I figured someone else did.

@garyny4073

Жыл бұрын

@@joetroutt7425 🤣🤣, did I beat u on that one J ? One of my all time favorite classics of all time 🚬🥃👍Glen C RIP

@sterlingroberts6240

Жыл бұрын

I get the impression he knows that, but doing all that might introduce another variable in the form of user skill. Every extra bit of manipulation he does creates more play in the final results. Maybe if he devised a way to measure the angle in real time. That might keep it fair.

Biggest factor for me is being able to consistently start the saw and long term reliability. I've watched my dad go through 3 Homelite/Ryobi chainsaws having them break and be un-repairable while I've still have my one home grade Stihl MS171 which hasn't let me down yet.

@qwertyui90qwertyui90

11 ай бұрын

Go the old homelite XL 12 / super / auto model. Better than anything else, extremely torquey, doesn't let me down at all. Still use it 50 years later.... Doesn't flop around like these new plastic ones, in the video they flop around so bad when you pull the pull starter haha.

@drewway9599

7 ай бұрын

@@qwertyui90qwertyui90 thats called anti vibration mounts old man lolol

@alexandercopeland2849

2 ай бұрын

​@@qwertyui90qwertyui90bet you sing a different tune if you bought a new equivalent to the home light. I have used a homelite 925xl and bought a stihl ms880, never touched homelite except for mill work now

@rorynelson7548

2 ай бұрын

Stihl runs in my bloodline.

@viperstrike3827

2 ай бұрын

​@@alexandercopeland2849Im a home gamer. I got an old ms440 it is the last saw I will ever need.

Running a Husqvarna 460 Rancher for my land. Works like charm, and the 24" bar is incredibly useful for some of the huge logs I have to work with.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@Estusstew

Жыл бұрын

Can’t go wrong with Husqvarna. Good quality equipment.

@Beijingbiden

11 ай бұрын

24 inch bar for huge longs Your not from the northwest are you

@arentol7

11 ай бұрын

@lenardruterbories6742 I am from the PNW, and 24" does the job for the stuff I have to work with. There are bigger trees around, but the trees on my land aren't too big for it to get the job done.

@user-jk6qj2su9v

9 ай бұрын

I love my husqvarna chainsaw, leaf blower, weed wacker. I use the 50-1 vp and every time I need my tools they fire up.

Your tests are in a league of their own! Great job once again! Your no BS approach is more and more refreshing in these times of increasing Phoniness. Please continue to keep it real for those of us that truly appreciate your efforts.

@mrtree1368

Жыл бұрын

Only problem is in the real world you wouldn't put a 18 inch bar on a cs 400 . You would want a cs 490 or a 4510 for that

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

@j.r.777

Жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for all of your videos! In the past I have asked for an all USA made video for tools or whatever else you do a video on. I was curious though if when you do these videos if you could also include after the initial test where each item is made? I know you say in the videos but when compiling my data from your videos I want to avoid anything made in China. I can then eliminate all of those and then go off of what offers the best option for stuff made outside of China. I have a good friend who is from China and she has told me about the atrocities she has seen out there first hand by the Government. She escaped from there and from things that she has told me I don’t have any desire to ever give China any of my money. Plus their stuff has the worst longevity and durability.

@SpicerStephenD

Жыл бұрын

Always Excellent videos without bias, thanks!

@madisonhadley7906

Жыл бұрын

@mr Tree I got a cs400 with carb limiters and muffler screen removed and it pulls the 18 no problem. Even stock it did fine

I bought the Stihl MS180 16” about 12 years ago because I kept seeing them on the professional landscaper trailers. I managed to clear 1.5 acres of property with that little thing, including cutting down eighteen, 26-30” diameter trees. It is still on the original spark plug and air filter and still starts on the third pull even if it sits for a year or two between uses. If I ever have to replace the saw, I’m going with another Stihl.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@Mike-sy6oy

Жыл бұрын

I've currently got the Husqvarna for my property. Clearing strawberry guava is a nightmare but the saw has been holding up perfectly. I would've preferred the Stihl, as those are the saws my brothers wildfire crew run and I've become familiar with them, but couldn't find any on my small island.

@rydplrs71

Жыл бұрын

You’ll be putting a fuel line in is before to long. It’s well worth the repair when it comes due. With small needle nose you don’t have to take the whole saw apart.

@boiledelephant

2 ай бұрын

​@@Mike-sy6oy your life sounds fascinating, you should do a video about your situation/work!

@jameslacey858

12 күн бұрын

The best saw is the one that starts when you're in need, and I find angle of cutting teeth dictates how well a saw cuts 😅

Have an Echo. Years old,no problems,starts every time. Great saw !

@i1bike

Жыл бұрын

They are made a bit weaker, to survive wear and tear and to save engine. BUT, thats why they can be ported to crazy numbers. Echo is amazing !

As a certified arborist of 27 years I have used both Stihl, Husqvarna medium sized saws above but small Echo's as climbing saws. All 3 are extremally well built & Long listings machines... Great Video !!

@Fr3sh-Kush

Жыл бұрын

Husqvarna equipment is just as nice as Stihl. I prefer them for concrete saws because 90% of the time it takes one pull starts almosy every time😁

@1crazypj

Жыл бұрын

Good to know as I need a new chainsaw (still cleaning up from Hurricane Ian last September 😒)

@chayetsylvain1837

8 ай бұрын

I haven't tried the gasoline powered Stihl yet. However the battery powered Stihl M5A 220C with AP 300 battery is incredibly efficient. I'm not a professionnal however I was instructed by a Stihl professionnal. I've had it for 5 years now, not a single problem.

@candyman9635

7 ай бұрын

I'm guessing firewood, the occasional coppice in a field, general garden work ? if so, stick with the electric, they're quiet, they're efficient and if you keep the chain razor sharp the 220c rips. @@chayetsylvain1837

@rbtree

7 ай бұрын

@chrissartain4430 27 years? Cool. I got certified in 1997. Took my test at Whistler Mt. PNW ISA conference in Dec 1996. As I'm mostly retired, after 47 years aloft, I let my cert lapse about 18 months ago. Now the PNW chapter pays my way to the training conferences in exchange for my photography. I have used many saw brands. In order of use and preference, Husky, Stihl, Dolmar, Jonsered, Echo/Shindaiwa/Solo, Homelite, McCullough. I've also run many fully wood-modified saws as they run cooler, cut up to 50-70% faster, and last a long time.

A couple of my friends who've worked as wildland firefighters consider the stihl the industry standard-- so the result wasn't too surprising ;)

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@batchian1

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm Please review DIY HVLP paint sprayer. Homeright super finish max, Graco 360vsp, Wagner flexio Yattich.

Another tremendous test run. In all truth, Todd, I'd trust your testing results over anything that a manufacturer said as far as results go. Although my chainsaw slinging days are long over, I was really stoked to see you test the gas saws. If you have a lot of wood to clear, gas is the way to go for sure. Thanks again for all you do, and for staying true to your no-sponsorship stance. It means a hell of a lot to us.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Love the hard work and dedication that goes into your videos. Keep up the good work. I love my Echo saws! Most saws need their carbs tweaked from the factory due to altitude etc. I gained huge rpm after retuning my saw from the factory settings. This includes my cheap Chinese arbor saw which is now a beast for $100!

Great test! My father and brother are both foresters and they only use Stihl saws, also all most of the lumberjacks they work with. My father still has 20+ year old Stihl saw and using it regularly. The premium price comes back if you plan to keep it and work with wood every year.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

I bought a Stihl MS 290:Farm Boss about 13 years ago and have been impressed. Have used it thru several hurricanes and many hours of property clearing and cleanup felling trees, cutting branches, etc. and it’s never failed me. Just did it’s first tuneup last summer and she’s still plugging along perfectly. I’ve owned half a dozen different brands over the years but only the Stihl and a little 10 year old Homelight with a 16” bar have lasted and continue to perform. Excellent test, thanks for the video. Top shelf content as always! 👍

@JohnDoe-df2zz

Жыл бұрын

Wow I forgot about Homelight. I remember my dad running Homelight saws when I was a kid before he switched to Stihl. Brings back memories...

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

@masoncole5834

Жыл бұрын

Homelite huh, I bought a gas leaf blower that was a homelite and to be honest it was pretty trash lol

@wesmeyers8190

Жыл бұрын

I have the same MS290 and it has never let me down (except once when I got some bad gas). Glad I spent the extra $ on a Stihl.

@REDBIRD-95

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-df2zz My Dad still has his old Homelite XL1. Talk about a VERY loud saw😆Those old saws had no chain brake, no vibration dampening, not much in the way of safety whatsoever, but they were all metal and built to last with very few plastic pieces.

I currently use a Stihl MS 290 and an Echo CS 590. They are very close in specs. Over my nearly 78 years I've used a lot of saws including other Stihls and Echos. My experience has been that Stihls are very well made (maybe less true now of the base consumer models), but so are the Echos. My Echo starts much more easily than my Stihl, cuts faster and seems to have more power--but it's also newer, and that may explain a lot. My son has one of my old Echos that must be almost 40 years old now. It still runs. He has an old Stihl of mine too, maybe 30 years old, and it runs fine. I think the takeaway is that any of the high-end saws--Stihl, Echo, Husqvarna, Dolmar, etc. are worth the money--they last, they have high resale value if you don't want to keep it, and they are much easier to live with. Which is best? I really think it's just a matter of personal preference and how you prioritize the fine differences in details.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@terrysoule8441

Жыл бұрын

Someone else who knows what a Dolmar is!

@derrick9653

Жыл бұрын

@@terrysoule8441 Sachs-Dolmar

@andrewmohs4734

Жыл бұрын

Love my 590. Been using it very heavily all year without issue. There have been days where it's running 6+ hours of hard cutting. No issues so far.

@googleuser3760

Жыл бұрын

I really really miss the old Homelite’s you couldn’t kill those things.

BE CAREFUL WITH SALEM MASTER! No slight to PF, your reviews are great. After this review we ordered a Salem Master from their website. They billed us but never sent the saw. Despite repeated contact attempts, we were ignored. Their Facebook page is full of complaints of their not answering email and call inquiries. Their website has inexplicably kept the Salem Master title, but is now featuring some sort of exercise bicycles. If you do purchase a Salem Master, I'd recommend doing it through a legitimate dealer where you are assured of the integrity of the seller. How Salem Master will handle subsequent warranty and support problems is anyone's guess. Thanks again for a great channel, PF!

@ProjectFarm

5 ай бұрын

You are welcome!

I've had a Husqvarna 445 18" for years and always starts quickly & cuts extremely well especially with a sharp chain .

@ProjectFarm

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@baddad3469

Ай бұрын

The Husky 445 is has a 50cc engine vs the 440's 40cc engine and is one reason I bought the 445 as well. This test should have been run with the Husqvarna 445, not the 440. The Husky 445 is closer to the price of the Stihl in this video than the 440. Not quite apples to apples in this test.

I've owned about every brand there is and nothing compares to a Stihl, I love your observation on the gas caps in regards to preventing contamination in the tank, I carry a small paint brush in each of my saw cases to clean the cap areas off before refueling/reoiling. I hope the manufacturers take note of your critique on this.

@rydplrs71

Жыл бұрын

Having a couple husky xp saws I will say when looking at top models husky still holds its own. It does offer low tier models that do make the company reputation sink though.

@velvanae

Жыл бұрын

I have a 30 cal ammo can with all my chainsaw maint. items, extra 2 cyc oil mix, and spare parts. You can bet the farm I have a paintbrush in there! That was something I learned a long time ago.

@kylekinkade9211

Жыл бұрын

I only use husqvarna saws. Fluid refill contamination has never been an issue with a small utility brush on hand. Husqvarna seem to be my ideal saw. Not heavy. Easy fluid fill and chain change is quick. Most saw stores carry Husqvarna parts as well as the other popular brands.

@user-nh3gu1ge3d

Жыл бұрын

Similar experience to you. I went through three lowes Husky's before I said ENOUGH of this crap and got a nice 261CM. Best saw ever. Not the most powerful saw in the world but the features, ease of use, reliability, weight to power ratio, etc. are lightyears beyond anything I got from lowes. Granted it may not be the fairest comparison, I'm sure Husky has great stuff at the top end, but I'll never buy anything but a Stihl again. Husky sells too much low end junk at lowes for me to bother with them anymore.

@elonmust7470

Жыл бұрын

I fell timber professionally for 16 years and can tell you that "oil contamination" on pro saws is all in your heads.

I think DeWalt, Echo, Makita, EGO, Stihl and Husqvarna all owe you a lot of money for the increases in sales they have all undoubtedly experienced from your two battery chainsaw vids and now this one. Hopefully you're making enough of an impact to inspire all of the others to step up their games as well! That's exactly why we need more of this in today's world... Fair, unbiased, thorough product comparisons.

@BuckingHorse-Bull

Жыл бұрын

there are some things better than money

@jman079707970

Жыл бұрын

Everything is linked in the description. He’s getting paid through affiliate marketing when people purchase one of these products after following his link to the site. Also KZread pays creators. Im sure he’s doing just fine for himself.

@bluerisk

Жыл бұрын

Over 1 million views by the target group.

@bidenstoletheelection9116

Жыл бұрын

He's making more than enough $ by making these videos as KZread pays him for the views and subscribers

@jameskrahn8355

Жыл бұрын

weeellll Makita is the old school Dolmar. one of the best

Thank you! I have been buying Stihl for years, but was hoping there was a cheaper alternative. Apparently not without sacrificing serious benefits.

@cantbuyrespect

Жыл бұрын

yea there is look up holzfforma

@jimm1819

7 ай бұрын

@@cantbuyrespect Where do you get parts for it?

@cantbuyrespect

7 ай бұрын

@@jimm1819 you can use Stihl or Husqvarna parts depending on which model being that they are clones of them.

I went and purchased a Stihl MS250 because of this video and it's been amazing. I had a Poulan Wild Thing 2375 I got for free (still overpaid) that was causing me to spend more time working on the chainsaw than working on my land. I'd be down 20 minutes for every hour of work--and that was on a good day. It was awful. The Stihl has been great. Thank you.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

You always go way above and beyond when you perform product tests. Great video! A++

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! This means a lot to me!!

I've always owned Stihl saws but have used Husky, Jonsered, etc. One thing I'll say about Stihl is that they are super easy to work on. You can basically take the whole saw apart with the two tools that come with the saw : the scrench and the L-shaped torx tool. Plus parts are easy to find and readily available.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@1crazypj

Жыл бұрын

I agree with that, did a lot of Stihl motors when working at a hire company. I still have the extra long Stihl torx in my tool chest (and the carb adjusting screwdriver that came with them new), found it again a few days ago looking for something completely different (don't get into tools much since retiring)

@ttommytom

10 ай бұрын

@@1crazypj #27

@user-no2po6ur3v

7 ай бұрын

Which best chainsaw machine your choice

@jeffhanlon6956

Ай бұрын

I’ve burned wood for over 40;years. Most of these saws are throw away saws. If you want a saw, buy a professional grade saw. It might cost more, but you will not regret it! Stihl never fails.

I picked up the Poulan pro on sale last year and was a little disappointed with it out of the box. Opening up the air box and muffler and retuning the carb made it much much better though!

As a professional horticulturist/arborist - I do a lot of tree work, but not as much as a full time dedicated arborist who carries an entire arsenal of different sized saws. I needed a single saw I could do everything with including light enough to climb a tree with, but robust enough to drop a 36” tree if needed. When you’re up a tree, the LAST thing you want is a saw that takes more than 3 pulls to start… one pull EVERYTIME when warm. A lot of stop and go when climbing/pruning/removals. I went with the highest end professional saw I could get, a Husqvarna 550xp - LOVE that saw… watching these homeowners models trying to cut through a piece of wood in this video is like torture. 😂 If you can afford it, and if you use a saw more than once a month, I’d go for professional model Stihl or Husqvarna.

I've used several chainsaws over the years and ended up purchasing a Stihl Farm Boss a few years ago. The first time I used that thing I was blown away. Hands-down more power and speed than anything I'd ever used before. I also feel more safe using it because I'm not fighting it at all, just comfortable letting the saw do the work.

@northeastslingshot1664

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Husqvarna has nothing on Stihl in last 15 years. I clear land with my 210.....things amazing. Stay safe!

@natethegr8230

Жыл бұрын

The anti vibration system on Stihl saws is second to none. All around the best saws out there.

@alexreid4131

Жыл бұрын

Also have the Farm Boss. Took it in last year and basically needed to be rebuilt. I enquired as to whether I should look at replacing it with STIHL’s modern equivalent of the Farm Boss. The shop owner was adamant and replied immediately with, “Oh no! Never get rid of this. They don’t make em like this anymore.”

@deanhawes5088

Жыл бұрын

my x dun did buy me my 039 farm boss 20 years ago for me birthday . she sed they are the best ... the thing still runs strong i guess i have to eat my undies nextime me x and i meat

@alexstromberg7696

Жыл бұрын

Stihl doesnt make a model named "farm boss"

The Stihl is definitely in a league of its own, but the electric echo did better than I expected! Very impressive

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@batchian1

Жыл бұрын

@ProjectFarm Please review DIY HVLP paint sprayer. Homeright super finish max, Graco 360vsp, Wagner flexio Yattich. For sprainig furniture wall and cars

@briananderson7497

Жыл бұрын

Electric saws have come a long way. Especially for homeowners. They have a long ways to go to match higher end Pro saws, but for your average homeowner who cuts and bucks a few trees a year, electric seems to be the way to go.

@RickJohnson

Жыл бұрын

@@briananderson7497 I went this route for that very reason. Corded because I inevitably use it so rarely that the batteries lose capacity due to age before they do charge cycles.

@TgWags69

Жыл бұрын

Won't ever buy a Husqvarna again. B ought one from lowes. Never would run right from the second year i owned it. Spent so much time working on it. New carbs everything! Just would bog and wouldn't run once warmed up. Ended up buying an electric one that fits the same battery as my wife's weed wacker.

Great video. I have a 18inch Craftsman I bought 3 yrs ago for $125 (before inflation) and its still running strong. Its used for light duty and 8-12 inch trees. I also have a Husqvarna 455 Farm Tough for the bigger trees and that thing is a beast! Love your videos. Keep up the great work!!

@ProjectFarm

11 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do! Thanks for sharing.

Being just a self-employed gardener, I don't use chainsaws that much. Still have my first chainsaw, which is a small Hitachi , it still runs and cuts relatively well, upgraded a few years ago to a Husqvarna 455 Rancher. It's quite heavy, but does everything I need!!

@internet_internet

8 ай бұрын

Nice choice in upgrade

Stihl and Husqvarna make great saws, their pro ranges are the choice of professional users (logging teams etc.) so that says a lot about their quality, longevity and customer support. A brand that is quite popular here in New Zealand is Shindaiwa (Japanese), they make really high quality outdoor equipment.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@hornetdt

Жыл бұрын

Hey Mark. Shindaiwa and Echo are functionally the same brand. You'll occasionally find a tiny difference between the two brands but fundementally the products they produce are identical other than being different colors.

@RobertWCrouch

Жыл бұрын

When I worked at a rental company, we exclusively used Shindaiwa for chainsaws, polesaws, power brooms etc. They held up pretty well and I only had one go down due to the customer using straight gas for an extended period (we did get it rebuilt though). Don’t miss the sound of 2 strokes on a daily basis,😅

@onecookieboy

Жыл бұрын

@@hornetdt I didn't know that, interesting. Shindaiwa have always been a bit of a niche brand in NZ, but I always liked them, they have a very unique sound. Echo always seemed to be aimed more towards the home owner, and Shindaiwa more towards the commercial user, but that's just my impression and perhaps just a marketing thing.

@grominwithrob1339

Жыл бұрын

@@hornetdt Spot on. I'm a small engine mechanic and factory trained on Echo equipment. Good reliable value equipment that are easy and cheap to work on.

Absolutely awesome test! I love the inclusion of the electric chainsaw to put it in perspective. Just once I'd love to see a behind-the-scenes video that goes into the making of your reviews! You've got some serious gear holding those logs and the attention to detail in maintaining consistency during testing certainly would be interesting to hear about how you maintain it for your testing. Top stuff, as always!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Thanks for the suggestion.

@camro210

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm I'd love to see a video on soft shackles - maybe a couple of the most reputable off-road brands (e.g. Warn/Factor55/BubbaRope/YankumRopes), couple less-reputable off-road brands (e.g. Smittybilt/Rough Country/etc), Harbor Freight, and a few popular/cheaper Amazon ones. 👍

@jamescampbell4313

Жыл бұрын

@@camro210 yes! Great idea! Test the ropes too!

Thanks as always. Although this is a rewatch of older video, I think I figured out a test for your channel- chisels. either wood or concrete chisels- came to mind while using a chisel to help break up a concrete slab and notices my tip wearing down and loosing some material. I found that my wood chisel set from HF work very well, and curious on both types does brand make value worth the spend. Have a good one! Cheers

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

I was a Stijl salesman and owned a few. Nothing will ever make me switch brands. The parts support, ease of fixing, and durability that I’ve seen throughout the years is wild. Should see some of the stuff those climbing saws go through and still run fine.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@j.elliottcole9506

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. My current Stihl is a second hand 039. I think they stopped making those in 2002. I use a 28" bar and it still runs great. My Husky is a 455 Rancher. I like them both.

@allencrider

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the professional tree people in my area all use Stihls.

@maxharter5716

Жыл бұрын

Main reason my family only ever buys Stihl. We have a MS180 I believe is between 15-20 years old. It's a bit cantankerous to start but it still runs.

@patrickbateman4148

Жыл бұрын

You were a STIHL salesman and you still cant spell the brands name correctly?

Had my Stihl Farm Boss for 18 yrs, it’s always been a rockstar. Currently using the aggressive rapid cutting chains, just rips through jobs😁👍 If it ever fails, would never consider anything else.

@warped2875

Жыл бұрын

@no name Was it the M-Tronic computerized carb? My local independent Stihl dealer won't sell them unless the customer insists on one. I guess the issue with the early M-Tronics was a failure to re-start when hot/warmed up, that is supposedly not a big issue now.

@quiksilv81

Жыл бұрын

I have a newer farm boss and it has worked flawless.

@toddfry7861

Жыл бұрын

I've had a farm boss for 22 years. It has been such a good saw I bought a sthil 391. The new bigger saw has had problems running since day one and can not keep up with the old farm boss.

@Charlie-ub2jf

Жыл бұрын

exactly old stihlc saws last and keep performing over the years and iive been offered almost has much has i paid when it was new but cant sell my baby ,

@markwithers7790

Жыл бұрын

My dad had a Farm Boss for 5 years. After he died it sat unused for another 3 or 4 years.. I didnt even put in new fuel..!! It started on the 2nd pull..!!! Its been doing all my heavy work for the last 6 years without a hitch. I wouldn't have a different saw.

Thank you so much I really enjoy all of your content. You should consider doing some test between the makita hypoid gear circular saw and the skill worm drive circular saw and possibly include as some some other rear handled heavy duty competitors used by framers. I would be very interested to see which gear design provides more advantages.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.

I learned valuable lessons with my MS261: (a) pay attention to chain tension. (b) inspect chains for burrs. (c) HARDWOOD (maple, oak, ironwood, ash) isn't kind to saws.

@ProjectFarm

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

As a former Stihl salesman, I agree with these results. But don't sleep on Husky, they build some amazing saws. Both companies guarantee at least 15 years of parts availability and as such, these are lifetime purchases.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@Kmangod

Жыл бұрын

Try contacting Husqvarna.... I had trouble with my chainsaw and it was new. Couldn't get person on the phone, and there were no reps close. Since it was a year old I couldn't take it back to Lowe's either. I wound up taking it apart and reassembling it which seemed to fix the starting issue. Later bought a Stihl, a superior chainsaw I must say.

@shalala4571

Жыл бұрын

@@Kmangod i’ve never had issues with contacting them, but maybe it’s because i’m in Sweden where husqvarna is located

@insanospaz

Жыл бұрын

I've owned a Stihl since idk when ( at least 10yrs) but if it's ever non-fixable(doubt) I'll give Husky a shot. Chainsaws really do seem to be the "You get what you pay for"

@Kmangod

Жыл бұрын

@@insanospaz My recommendation is to stay away for Husq. I have one and a Stihl. There is a huge quality difference. If you're an average Joe then go for it. But if you want something well worth the money then its Stihl forever.

Your reviews have become the GOLD STANDARD for product testing! Keep up the awesome videos!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@HaroldCombs

Жыл бұрын

+1. You’ve managed to put consumer reports out of business.

@Bob_Adkins

Жыл бұрын

They were from the very beginning.

I bought an Echo cs-310 brand new two years ago and it’s been a great saw the entire time. I’m no arborist or contractor but for the medium trees I have at my house it cuts great. And always starts easy in the cold. For the bigger projects I have my MS-250 Stihl with an 18” bar, which seems to do better against thicker logs on bigger trees. Together they make a great pair.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@darkskies6564

4 ай бұрын

Love my MS- 250

I got the Poulan because the price was right (before watching this video). It has trouble idling, and I'm not the only one who experiences this. I've heard other people say that it bogs when the throttle is opened. My saw runs fine wide open. For a brand owned by Husqvarna, they don't seem to have very good QC. We shouldn't have to adjust a brand new saw just to get it running.

@ProjectFarm

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

I did not expect the two top gas chainsaws to be on opposite ends of the price spectrum like that! Stihl is in a league of its own and is the best hands down. Salem Master put out a great showing for the price, well done on their part. Thanks again, Todd! 🐺🔧

@rudyjanke5942

Жыл бұрын

If stihl would fix their oil and gas caps they would have no competition, those twist lock caps just plain suck

@bryce340v8

Жыл бұрын

Stihl corporate customer service absolutely sucks!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@jimbo3615

Жыл бұрын

The best gas trimmer I’ve owned is (still) a Stihl. But it started with the dealer taking one off the shelf, putting some non-ethanol gas & oil in it, starting it and giving it a quick tune. Big box stores don’t do that…

@crandonborth

Жыл бұрын

@@rudyjanke5942 The Husqvarna ones let tons of dirt in as well, and my saw the oil fill is behind the handle. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

I have a Stihl MS250 and it has performed flawlessly for over 10+ years. Well worth the cost

@tubastuff

Жыл бұрын

I've got an 032AV and it's performed well for, um, 40+ years... There have been some great old saws. I still occasionally use my Homelite XL. McCullough used to make some fine saws before they went down the drain. Sachs-Dolmar also.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@steveb6103

Жыл бұрын

30 plus here.

@thedude8976

Жыл бұрын

I have 3 290's actually one is a 029 same saw just older. Best saw for the money hands down

@markshort9098

Жыл бұрын

I have a ms170 and despite it being a cheap home gamer saw I've beat the hell out of it for almost a decade cutting Australian hardwoods and it still runs perfectly

I have an Echo CS-590 that starts on the 3rd pull every time I use it. It’s a beast of a saw, but, it’s too big for brush cutting the yard. I just bought a Stihl MS-170 today. I’ve burned a full tank of fuel with it and it’s been a joy to use for small stuff. Highly recommended!

Excellent review, as always. I would like to see a Chinese Stihl clone added to these tests. I think most of us know that the Poulan is always going to be a bottom of the barrel choice. I'd prefer to see the Farmtec ect. saw compared than the Poulan saws. I wonder how a rebuilt 25 yo Stihl would compare with modern saws? I just completed a total rebuild of an 046 that out preforms my newer Husky 372 by bunches.

I know it would probably be really expensive to pull off, but if you did a side by side comparison of a bunch of truck winches, that would be an epic testing video.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion.

@rbhe357

Жыл бұрын

Ditto. Funny how these videos always seem to inevitably appear as I'm considering buying something.

@davidscott5903

Жыл бұрын

Great idea!

@dannymccraw4841

Жыл бұрын

I second this

@MrMjwaggoner

Жыл бұрын

Yes, this!

I'd love to see a final showdown with homeowner, ranch grade then pro grade and see how they compare. Certainly a price difference. Love the channel, always innovate ways to test stuff I'd never think of.

@python3574

Жыл бұрын

The Stihl 500i would also blow away the rest of the competition

@s.whitaker1120

Жыл бұрын

I would think the pro saws would only shine in weight at first, but stand alone in the long run.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

@valdman123zxz

Жыл бұрын

Husqvarna 560 would be rather good for this

@billpanop383

Жыл бұрын

@@valdman123zxz I own the Husqvarna 560, it's a great saw. My neighbor owns a Stihl 311, although a little more expensive than my Husqvarna, it's a better saw. At retail price, I'd pay the extra money for the Stihl. You can occasionally find a Husqvarna on sale, but never Stihl. At a sale price, the Husqvarna wins out.

I have a Stihl MS250 for years. I love it. I had a Poulan and it was junk. Lasted for extremely short time until the compression went out.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

I have an older model Poulan Pro, and they really haven't changed their design much aside from where the chain tension screw is located and the tool being in the handle. No bumper spikes on mine either. I actually came here because I'm looking to get a bigger saw and definitely needed the comparison review. love your channel

@ProjectFarm

5 ай бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

With the top three saws, the chain makes a HUGE difference. The Husqvarna/stihl/echo would probably be more evenly matched if they all used the same chain.

@ChrisGilliamOffGrid

Жыл бұрын

Well the Stihl is also a 45 cc saw, the Husky a 40cc, but you're right.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@bigpardner

Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisGilliamOffGrid The Echo is 40.2 cc., although they make a 45 cc model.

@haneyoakie14

Жыл бұрын

The Salem Master would be an excellent choice for someone who just had storm damage, needs to clean up, and my never need a saw again. Or as a loaner saw to relatives that you don’t trust enough to loan your Echo, Husqvarna, or Stihl saw to.

@ChrisGilliamOffGrid

Жыл бұрын

@@haneyoakie14 Possibly, but I had to use my Makita 7900 with it's 28 inch bar a good bit after Sally. These oaks and pecan trees down here get pretty big. $1000 saw more than paid for itself tho.

I have a 18" Husqvarna that's over 20 yrs old, farm and ranch use. Had a bunch of storm damage this past year, and switched over to the newer Xcut Husqvarna chain. What a difference. It's easily cutting at the speeds you're showing for the Stihl, and most of my cutting is Bois' Darc /hedge apple. Can't argue with 20yrs usage and still going.. Thank the Good Lord!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Stihl chainsaws do require lots of torque to pull over, but fortunately for the consumer they offer an alternative method on some models called Easy2Start. This system utilizes two springs, one is the traditional recoil spring, and the other, when the rope is pulled, is put under load until the point where the strength of the spring overcomes the engine compression. What I would recommend, if you wish to make a video about this feature, is buying a model MS180 and a model MS180C, the two have some differences, one being Easy2Start vs a traditional pull start. But otherwise they have the same size engine and bar and chain. Love your videos, keep up the good work!

@ProjectFarm

11 ай бұрын

Thanks, will do! Thanks for the video idea.

@silverbackag9790

3 күн бұрын

Get a Stihl pro model; they have compression releases at all sizes except the tiny arborist saws.

I worked with a logger in high school and all he used was Husqvarna. I bought a Craftsman chainsaw bigger than what I thought I needed but I was cutting Osage Orange/Hedge wood and I had to upgrade and put out the money for a Stihl. I was working with a farmer in Kansas and all he had were Stihl and the dealer was in the same town. I don't regret the purchase and it has paid for itself a few times over. We burn wood and I cut and sell firewood.

@ProjectFarm

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

I like the fact that you included a very budget friendly saw. The fact that it turned out to be a decent saw was a bonus. After this review, I bet the price goes up.

@GianmarioScotti

Жыл бұрын

Based on construction quality (as reported here), I doubt it. About 100% of people buy chainsaws looking at long-term durability and reliability. You do not want to have plastic piece fly off while you're on location.

@volvo09

Жыл бұрын

@@GianmarioScotti yeah, those saws have been around and reviewed for a while... They work, they are great for a homeowner, but not of high quality. More of storm cleanup and casual use... I wouldn't buy one to cut firewood with. I'd buy one over a poulan if I had to, but not over anything else.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@legallyfree2955

Жыл бұрын

@@GianmarioScotti Yeah, even good quality chainsaws are still complex machines that break down often enough, when travelling some distance to go wood cutting we always pack 2 medium sized chainsaws, a small chainsaw and an axe with wedges (usually to rescue a stuck chainsaw). It's very unlikely we will get through 2 days worth of cutting without a single chainsaw going down. However this is also in Australia with some pretty hard hardwoods that love to gum things up with their finer dust.

@muddybadgers5205

Жыл бұрын

The Salem Master appeared to be a Zenoah 5800 clone saw. A lot of them exist in the $150-200 price range. I doubt the Salem Master price will go up due to competition. I actually have a different brand of the "same saw" and it's been 100% reliable. It's very strong and pulls hard with a simple muffler mod and base gasket delete. And some pretty light port work wakes it up even more

Another excellent review. For me durability is huge a factor. I had a Poulan Pro unit and after two years I grew impatient with its issues. For my next chainsaw, I went with Stihl and that was more than a decade ago. It is yet to let me down. It was certainly more expensive to begin with but as you duly noted, buy once and cry once.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for sharing.

@666dynomax

Жыл бұрын

good choice, nothing more frustrating than a saw that won't start. homeowner, but i don't have time to fiddle with things that don't work properly or well. Stihl 362 going on 12 years countless chains, and still works like a top, AFTER i got rid of the bosch plugs... for some reason that year or that dealer stuck a bosch plug in it, damn thing would never start... got talking to a different dealer one day on a different mission asked me what kind of plug was in it... all he said was "theres your problem"

@JasonFrankenstein

Жыл бұрын

After using borrowed Homelite and Poulan saws, I went out and got a Stihl. Turned out to be a great decision! Got the little ms170 and it's one angry little beaver! 🦫

I'm just a home owner so I do not need a " Pro " saw. However I buy quality as the need arises. I have the Stihl MS 250 and I love that saw. It will last ME a lifetime as I am now 70. But that was very interesting that you included the amount of pulling force to get those saws started. I have advocated from day one that Stihl should have installed a compression release on the 250. That little bugger is snorty, and has a ton of compression. But I love it all the same !

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

I was helping with cleaning out houses after hurricane Harvey, I removed a STIHL chainsaw from a garage to the street as trash because it had been flooded. I asked the owner of the house if I could take it to fix and return, he refused and said to just take it. I did, disassembled and cleaned down to the carburetor. And the 10 year old STIHL started firing on the 3rd pull. That was 4 years ago. Twice a year I start it to help remove some brush or cut some wood, it has started every time. I also own a STIHL weed eater, 8 years old. Starts every time. Echo I have had some experience with, they are good. STIHL is great. No biases, just proven quality. STIHL is the Toyota of chainsaws

@ProjectFarm

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

As always great video! Another thing to consider is the availability of replacement parts. Stihl, husqvarna and echo are probably the only saws with readily available parts.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Good Point!

@wildbill23c

Жыл бұрын

Very true. Although anymore, people don't really fix anything, it breaks they throw it away because it ain't the newest latest model.

@kayak_homie

Жыл бұрын

@@wildbill23c nowadays newer model usually = lesser quality

@AdmiralDG

Жыл бұрын

@@kayak_homie And yet most people dont care, like the other commenter said, they just throw it away. I read a review for an unrelated product, where the customer liked the item but said it was difficult to clean. I qoute "but its so cheap, I just throw it away after its dirty...". People have no respect for the planet, or themselves anymore. Or so it seems from my small sample data :/

@unimog401

Жыл бұрын

You can get most parts from oregon

I found that upgrading the chain on cheap saws made a huge difference. Most come with an Oregan chain which isn't too bad, but changing to a good Stihl chain would really help.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@jeladsnikpoh1289

Жыл бұрын

I found that the Oregon chain was a huge upgrade from whatever junk came with my Ryobi! It was the best value for the $, based on my interpretation of Project Farm's testing in another excellent video.

@1one3_Racing

Жыл бұрын

@jelad Snikpoh Oregon do make a good chain, they also make a cheap chain! Same for Stihl. It's possible to match the wrong chain with the wrong saw too. I'm pretty bad with maintenance and looking after things so I used to buy $70 saws and take them into a shop to have good chains made. They would be ok for a year or so! And when I bit dirt I still had the factory chain as a backup

@ElementofKindness

Жыл бұрын

Stihl chains, for whatever reason, have proven absolutely superior to all other brands, in my experience.

@risajajr

Жыл бұрын

Interesting. I find the Oregon chains to be as good as the Stihl ones. What matters most is whether they are full chisel or semi-chisel and, of course, whether they are sharp. Brand new, both perform extremely well on red and white oak. After some usage, performance comes down to whether you have sharp chains.

I'm a long time Stihl customer. Glad to see you agree it's a good investment. I got a Ryobi brushless 18v 12" for the little trimming jobs and brush too big for loppers and haven't been disappointed. Lightweight and strong enough for me.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

I bought the echo cs400 last year. Every time I use it I’m more and more impressed with it. Take some material out of the mufflers cat and the thing will be an animal. After using it the saw gets better and better each time as it breaks in. I was very very impressed with the cs400. Never gave me a problem starting either. Thanks again for the testing!

@ProjectFarm

8 ай бұрын

You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

To anyone buying their first chainsaw, I'll add this bit of advice: Part of your decision should include what shop you are going to rely on for future maintenance and repairs. For my money, Stihl and Husqvarna are both awesome products and the choice between them is often subjective preference. However, my preferred local shop is a Husqvarna shop, so my most recent purchase was that brand.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@TheDwightMamba

Жыл бұрын

Solid advice. I don't cut often, so I went with the 18" EGO. Oregon replacements for the bar and chains. 16" & 14" compatibility. 3 years in and nothing has broken. Not so much as a chain skip. An old friend has a Husky and the thing starts on every 1st pull. I don't miss the noise though.

@Kiowan918

Жыл бұрын

The crazy thing is, when i needed a chainsaw, the Stihl was the best deal, it was only $200 Canadian for the MS170 and that included set up and tune up, the chinese saws were 150-300+ for things i'd never heard of with no support or reviews, one of the few no brainer purchase decisions i've had to make.

@kylekisebach3966

Жыл бұрын

Good advice for most mechanical equipment

@sureshots8155

Жыл бұрын

100% agree. Both stihl and husqvarna are great saws.

I've had my Sachs Dolmar 120 for over 18 years, never did any major engine rebuilds. As a matter of fact I got it from my father back in 1998, back in his day he used it 10-15 years, it still has the factory 49mm piston(68cc)! Apart from the scuffed/banged up paint works great! I use it 2-3 times a week, does what it's supposed to do :). Truly a saw to pass on to generations.

@smileysun9212

Жыл бұрын

Sachs Dolmar‘s gets my vote & my Dad bought one in the 80’s. Only thing that got replaced was ignition coil besides bar & chains. I was hoping to see a Dolmar/Makita in this test.

@AutodidactEngineer

Жыл бұрын

@@smileysun9212 same :(

I worked in the bush for years as a landing bucker man, and i would put a Husky up against any saw on the market,, they are tough , fast and just an all around great chain saw for anyone who uses one for a living in a hard work environment ..

@mauricenault4837

11 ай бұрын

I was a logger for 36 years & I have to go with the husky also

Never gets old, I love the comparison videos, thank you good sir for the excellent work

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

I have a smaller and older echo and I’ve put that saw through hell and it refuses to quit. It might not cut as effortless as my newer and larger stihl but the abuse it has taken cutting wood larger than it should be has made it a good buy. Maybe I got lucky with this one but that little echo has impressed me. Can’t go wrong with a Stihl though if you have the money.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

Stihl chainsaws have been my favorite saws for my entire professional and personal life. You can't go wrong with them. But if you're just using them occasionally and don't want to spend the money for one then I would go with the Echo. They've really stepped up their saw game over the past few years and are way easier to start than either the Stihl or Husqvarna.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@lestermullen3248

Жыл бұрын

Watched the video, but already knew that Stihl was the king of chainsaws!

@thedude8976

Жыл бұрын

I agree STHIL all the way their farm/ ranch saws are superior husky box store saws. Those are orange pouland's absolute garbage..

@grominwithrob1339

Жыл бұрын

Agree 100%.

@silverstar4289

Жыл бұрын

If a person doesn’t use their saw often, then the battery powered saw is the best option. No worries about failure to start after not running for four months.

I have a little older version of the Stihl MS250 and I've found that I just barely need to pull the string to start it vs. yanking the whole string out. Tremendous saw. Chainsaws are one of those things where you get what you paid for. Generally, the more expensive the saw, the better quality and longer lasting. However, the results of that Salem Master are very impressive for the price!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

Thank you for preforming a vary thorough and EXPENCIVE test . Ontario Canada .

@ProjectFarm

11 ай бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

You sir, have done a wonderful job of reviewing these chainsaws. Very professional, informative, and helpful. Thank you for taking the time to do the review.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome!

Most of the Husqvarna manufacturing facilities are concentrated in Sweden and other Scandinavian countries. They also have subsidiaries in France and Germany. Next in line are the USA and China, each with 6 production plants. Brazil has one Husqvarna manufacturing plant. It’s most likely that your Husqvarna chainsaw is made up of components sourced from more than one of these countries. For example, the wildly popular Husqvarna 455 Rancher is made mostly in Sweden. The power head is manufactured in Sweden and then shipped to the US where a locally manufactured Oregon bar is fitted. Even then, no one can be sure whether some of the components are manufactured in China, possibly even Brazil, and then sent to the European or US plants for assembly.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@amoeb81

Жыл бұрын

People expect from a brand to have consistent quality.

@SolidStateWorkshop

Жыл бұрын

I have a mid level Husqvarna battery trimmer (225il). Made in Vietnam. Don’t really care where it’s made, but if a company moves to Vietman or India these days, that means that they are chasing lowest possible labor costs. (i.e. China is too expensive for them!) Doesn’t mean the product is bad, just gives an idea about the company’s mentality.

@davenhla

Жыл бұрын

@@SolidStateWorkshop Vietnam's economy is growing rapidly and their labor cost might be low but it affords them a comfortable life due to cost of living differences. I suspect this will change over time and I hope companies invested over there will stick with them even if costs go up. Related, they also don't seem to share china's "me first" attitude in regards to money and tendency to do as little as required to make sure profit is maximized. In short, if you don;t spell out EXACTLY what you require from china they will screw you over, whereas Vietnam seems to have at least some sense of pride in their work and desire for their customers to be happy with what they get. I think they are more related to Japan's economic mindset then china. I can't speak to India. Seems to vary by industry. So I guess I wouldn't rule out a Vietnam product right off the bat. I prefer stuff from the US when I can, but "not china" has become my second criteria when looking just because of quality and reliability and consistency reason. Vietnam doesn't make me second guess.

@SolidStateWorkshop

Жыл бұрын

​@@davenhla​The only reason companies are moving there in the first place is because labor is cheap...cheaper than China namely. They will leave Vietnam just like they left every other country whose manufacturing industry they built up, and then left when wages rose as a result of improved quality of life. I am wary of trying to relate the culture of a people to quality of product. Generally, a good quality product can be made anywhere, given a well defined specification, quality system, and so on. There are plenty of high end manufacturers in China who do great work. And there are crappy ones too. Same applies to the Vietnam, US, Germany and so on! Like I mentioned, not that concerned about where it was made. Rather - if a company is constantly chasing the lowest possible labor market, what does this tell you about what they value in the first place? Sure, you can argue that they want to keep labor low so that they can use good quality components/materials and sell at a reasonable cost. Possible, yes. But, not my experience (usually).

That Stihl is one of the best performing saws for the money. I had one for over 10 years and it was flawless. Only upgraded for a bit more power. Wish I had kept it.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@commonsence8223

Жыл бұрын

My 250 has cut close to 50 cords in the last 6 years. Thing does not quit!!! It does struggle on bigger logs in terms of cut speed. I just grabbed a Ms400 to get the job done a bit quicker and keeping the 250 of course!

@Wittyusername82

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm love your videos!

@Wittyusername82

Жыл бұрын

@@commonsence8223 nice upgrade! I grabbed the MS261. Similar size and weight to the MS250 but more powerful and less vibration.

I've owned chainsaws for 45 years and I have never found anything that out performs or last as long as Stihl. I have a little 020 AV that is 30+ years old and starts first or second pull this day.

I love my Echo. It's a larger one (CS 590) with a decompression switch and no fuel primer. It starts with just a handful of pulls and I always drain the ethanol fuel, run it dry, and drain the oil after each use and before storage. I had a bad storm drop a huge maple, taking out my electric supply. 30 secs earlier and it would have crushed me and my daughter in our car as we drove away. On returning, in the chaos, I filled the chainsaw with pure gas from the wrong can. I used it for 20 minutes in the rain and it then stalled. Not sure what was going on, though that was odd that it stopped. I restarted it and ran it again for another 5 mins, when it stalled again. I then realized what I'd done. I refilled with 2-stroke fuel and continued to use it. I thought what the heck, I'll need a new chainsaw anyway! Next day I inserted a borescope and saw just some minor scuff marks in the cylinder. I ran it and it performed perfectly with good compression. It felt the same as when new when pulling to start with the decompression switch deactivated. No issues at all during operation. I was amazed. That was all 3 years ago! I've used it to fell and cut up several large and small trees since. In fact, I just used it. Never lets me down despite my earlier abuse! Only needed to replace the bar and chain and air filter to-date. 😢

I have used stihl for years. Yes they are expensive but well worth the money. Great video!👍

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

i love your tests . i love the way that no matter what the product is you manage to find the right tools and testing equipment to test them thoroughly and fairly . no one else seems to cover quite the range of things tested as you do . keep up the good work .

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

I have had my beloved Echo chainsaw for 40 years or so. One of the best purchases I ever made in my life. Still it's good to know about the Stihl should the day ever come.... GREAT and SUPER review! Wow! Ya done good PF!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.

Thanks for the great comparison. I had a Poulan Pro and always had a hard time starting it. I bought an Echo professional series chainsaw and love it. It starts usually by the 4th or 5th pull and it cuts better than any chainsaw I have ever owned. I liked it so much that I bought an Echo string trimmer also, and it usually starts by the 3rd or 4th pull.

@ProjectFarm

10 ай бұрын

You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

I had that Echo and that stihl for years. The Stihl was indeed faster and "funner" but the Echo seemed more durable. They both made lots of money for me as a pro landscaper but I grabbed the Echo when a windstorm and wildfire struck and I came to the aid of friends and neighbors. I ran it along with my big Echo 620 for hours and hours. and both were unrecognizable, coated in pitch and debris, but the tanks and air intake were clean as new when I took it apart for maintenance. As you would say, "very impressive!"

@slasher9883

Жыл бұрын

I have used Echo and Stihl extensively over the years and have always found Echo to be be more reliable and better made, but Stihl generally has more grunt. I do prefer Echo as I have had lots of issues with modern Stihl equipment, mainly due to Stihl cheaping out on a lot of parts (like carburettors).

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@mrtree1368

Жыл бұрын

The cs 400 is a great saw for its size but I wouldn't put an 18 inch on it 16 at the max really if you wanted an 18 inch chainsaw you'd want atleast a cs 4510 or a 490 and you can get those for under 300 on ebay

@tavv17

Жыл бұрын

I have ECHO chainsaw and Husqvarna trimmer/brush cutter, all good, but i liked legendary husqvarna 254 until it got too old to find spareparts. Even sthil 261 was very good after my best after husq got retired. Now its ECHO time and im not dissapointed it peformace, CS-501SX its its name.

@waterbourne9282

Жыл бұрын

@@tavv17 Me too on the 501. Was initially keen on the S261 because I have lots of other Stihl gear, looked at the H550, but in the end went with the E501. Beautifully lightweight and torquey.

Thanks for the work you do as always! Any chance you could do a video testing heat guns? It'd be good to know temperature control, area, loudness etc.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video idea! I'll do it if there's enough interest.

@Jonathan-ei7vp

Жыл бұрын

Great suggestion

@danielcarlson8321

Жыл бұрын

Heat guns are vital in heat shrink, soldering wires with solder-shield splices.

@batchian1

Жыл бұрын

@@ProjectFarm Please review DIY HVLP paint sprayer. Homeright super finish max, Graco 360vsp, Wagner flexio Yattich.

@GOAT_GOATERSON

Жыл бұрын

@@batchian1 dude, calm down, he need some time to react to all the reactions lol

I worked for an equipment rental store. I'm a 28 year 2 cycle mechanic, Currently working for a Stihl dealership. I have worked on just about every saw in this review. And I can tell you, If you read the user manuals and follow the instructions as far as maintenance goes, all these saws will last, some longer than others. Now with that being said, I would only recommend two saws on this list, the Stihl and Husqvarna. last note... as far as starting goes, Stihl have saws with an easy start recoils option, a 87 year old dead man with one arm and rigor mortis can easily start it.

@ProjectFarm

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

Hey Project Farm liked the video I'm looking to buy a chainsaw we had a bad storm come thru Oklahoma and lots of tree damage. what type of chains did you use with the saws? because that can make a huge difference by far because there is more aggressive chains on the market thanks

@ProjectFarm

8 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear!

I have been using Stihl for over 30 years now. I have used many different saws over time; Husky, Echo, Homelite, Jonsered. The Stihl has impressed me time and time again. Not always the best, but the most consistent and easiest to repair in the field. Also, most professionals I know use Stihl or Husky, all for good reason.

@MichiganMitch23

Жыл бұрын

If you cut heavy and hard the stihls clutches go out I’m a husky man and wouldn’t ever buy a rebranded piece of shit 440 everyone who knows saws knows that this want fair that’s not a real husky that’s like buying a John Deere from Lowe’s and calling that a real John Deere it’s and MTD

@Echowhiskeyone

Жыл бұрын

@@MichiganMitch23 I have had an 044 for a long time, my favorite saw, heavy as ever and has never failed. The newer Stihls are hit and miss. I have a 10 year old 390 and a newer 180, both are good. Also have a 290 that is one of the biggest pieces of crap, gonna find something to trade it for.

@willmiller9631

Жыл бұрын

@@Echowhiskeyone that's sad to hear.. I have a 290 that absolutely rips. Starts first or second pull every time. Eats wood for breakfast lunch & dinner

@willmiller9631

Жыл бұрын

@Echo Whiskey however I did end up buying a husq 372xp with a big bore kit so it's 76.6cc now instead of 71. Quite a difference between 56.5 and 76.6 lol.

@markshort9098

Жыл бұрын

Having worked on many huskys and stihls, I think the huskys are easier to work on.. they are both very good saws though and most of the repairs I've done has just been cleaning carbies out and the occasional full rebuild after 20 years of almost daily abuse in Australian hardwoods

Would be interesting to see this test with saws at the 60cc level. I think that's the sweet spot in terms of size between pro and prosumer.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion.

@mikewest712

Жыл бұрын

Cs600p would make quick work of that test.

@mrtreevis

Жыл бұрын

@@mikewest712 you miss spelled the 562xp ::P

@BLOODnVALOR

Жыл бұрын

But that STIHL ms461 is $1200. Lol. That would be an expensive test.

@G19Jeeper

Жыл бұрын

@@BLOODnVALOR362 is 59 CC and would be the comparable saw there. One of the best power to weight ratios out there. I have an old 036 PRO and that thing runs like nothing else at 26 years old

Just popped back in to refresh my memory on this review. Quick note on the Salem Master. The 58cc is almost identical to the 62cc, slightly bigger bore. I have the 6220H model. That Full Chisel Chain they supply is a terrible chain choice. Its to aggressive for the Saws with their lower rpm operation. I run Semi-Chisel and almost exclusively cut Hard woods for firewood. I couldn't ask for a more dependable chainsaw for the price. After initial break in I stuck with 25:1 for several gallons of mix and just recently switched to 40:1 . The saw definitely liked the change and a slight tweak to the High setting really woke it up. Upgrades to a 22" bar/chain and its tackling Oak to 30"+. Whatever Chainsaw one chooses, taking care of it is Key to it taking care of you.

Well done comparison as always

I don't have brand loyalty for many companies, but Stihl is the exception when it comes to chainsaws. I've used tons of different saws, and the first time I used a commercial grade Stihl I was legitimately blown away at what a fantastic machine it was. Look at what professional lumberjacks use for their day-to-day work, and it's almost exclusively Stihl chainsaws. As always - fantastic comparisons and analysis!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@Centermass762

Жыл бұрын

I really don't even consider it brand loyalty. If somebody built a better saw, I'd buy theirs. I just so happens that Stihl makes the best damn affordable medium duty chainsaw on the market. I'd call it "good product loyalty." 😁

@Deere2154D

Жыл бұрын

@@Centermass762 even professional grade stihl is the best

@peterburkey3740

Жыл бұрын

stihl is the best saw by far, hands down. If you want to cut wood. :)

@Centermass762

Жыл бұрын

@@Deere2154D that's good to hear. I've never used their larger commercial models so I couldn't comment on those.

A few years back, I went to help one of my sisters with storm damage after a hurricane. Wanted to buy a Stihl due to past experience, but money was a little tight...so went with the Echo. Overall, very impressed. The only issue I had was with the restrictive muffler system they were required to install, really slowed down the response time. Once I 'corrected' that issue, it ran great. Very easy to start and fairly strong. Should've never gave away my Stihl to my BIL out west.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@ryanfarthing8434

Жыл бұрын

Our farm echo sits alot and it never takes more than 5 pulls with old gas! Best starting saws hands down!

@robertthibodeaux4435

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanfarthing8434 my neighbor says the same thing about his echo!

@hawks2252

Жыл бұрын

I have an Echo CS 590 about 3 years old. I have cut about 20 cords so far and felled a few large trees. No problems so far (knock on wood). I heard about opening up the muffler system to really make it go, but don't want to fix something that is working well.

@tomparth3398

Жыл бұрын

Ya, I bought a echo, timber wolf.Great running saw,56cc lot of power.I have a smaller stiel.that one works good too...

It'd be interesting seeing you do the 9ich cut off saws. I've had the dewalt 54v flexvolt for a while now mostly cutting concrete and clay roof tiles and would be fascinated how others on the market compare, excellent work.

@ProjectFarm

11 ай бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.

Cool video, great production value. All info no garbage. Thanks

My personal preference is Echo and Stihl saws for their long-term dependability and power output. Overall, loved the video, keep up the good work.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

After owning about 4 different cheap saws I broke down and bought a Stihl 271. It was like holding onto a dragster compared the other others that I had. Love it.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback.

@bradb_in_Iowa

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more. Turned to Stihl 8 years ago and haven't turned back. If you haven't discovered the carbide tipped Duro chains, I highly recommend them. More expensive to start but stay sharp a LOT longer --- only downside is you need a diamond tipped sharpener. My local shop does it for $8

@lloydnewman5285

Жыл бұрын

I've got a 271,hate it, want run, about had a heart attack trying to start it. Oyea it's only about 2 years old I hate it 😢😢

@bradb_in_Iowa

Жыл бұрын

@@lloydnewman5285 Sorry to hear this! Sounds like there may be something wrong with your carb if it isn't starting. Stihl's predictably start on the 3rd pull after priming, so what you're experiencing doesn't seem right. I would have it checked out. The non-stop pulling is awful, so I definitely empathize with you.

@lloydnewman5285

Жыл бұрын

@@bradb_in_Iowa Thanks for the information, ℹ️ worked on Cummins mechanic for 40yrs, that was what I was thinking the carb, a friend of mine owns the shop I bought it from I talked to him about it I had it with me so he wanted to see if he could get it running he did after about 10 pulls, it was blowing alot of fuel out the exhaust he said I had gotten it flooded it had been sitting for 12hrs can't believe he didn't say leave it with me and I would check it out, he said nothing, I tried this morning it tried to start I took the choke off still nothing about Fed up with this 500.00 dollar saw, I still think it has a carb problem.

Great video man!😄I understand this is all for testing purposes, but thought I'd mention pushing on the cut is a sure way to burn up a piston cylinder, especially if your chain is dull..

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

Thanks for the comprehensive review. Amazing depth and super helpful while I shop for my next saw

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

You are welcome!

For smaller saws, lower weight is an important feature to reduce fatigue. Next I'd be looking for anti-vibration features and durability - I'd either for the Stihl or Husky too.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

@Dawid0912

Жыл бұрын

anti-vibration features are very impornant, for pro's who can get Vibration white finger and even for regual people who just use it only for thier own fireplace. My professor who was in 40s already had it and he is not phisical worker. There is no price for your health

I had a friend who had 3-4 Stihl saws, after he used my Echo a few times and saw how much easier it was to start, he trades all his Stihl saws in and got new Echo saws! And I recently inherited my fathers 30 year old Swedish made Husqvarna and its the best saw I’ve ever used!

@markkus1134

Жыл бұрын

Yep my 1998 Husky is the best saw

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@XxTWMLxX

Жыл бұрын

I have a 91 Swedish made jonsered (now Husqvarna owned) I got for free it was sitting atleast 10 years. All I got in to it is 10$ for fuel line and a good ol' disassemble to clean. It starts and runs but I cant get it to start in cold or idle very long. It's not set right after I took apart and rebuilt carb. I have it's service manual but can't get it right. No primer and a hell of a lot of compression.

@DonnieDarko727

Жыл бұрын

Very impressive!

@padraicmcguire108

Жыл бұрын

I have a 25 yr old Husky 55 Rancher...made in Sweden. It is was a beast for its day and still runs very well. My only complaint about Husky these days, is its gotten hard to find dealers for the Pro and semi Pro Saws. Tons of dealers for Husky's consumer grade saws. Not so sure of their biz strategy here.

First time watching your channel and I'm so impressed!! As a woman in her 50s, chainsaws aren't in my wheelhouse, so your extensive break down really helped me understand the qualities that I need to pay attention to. Muchas gracias

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

Not surprised to see Stihl on top, even after testing this thorough. I've always owned Stihls but this test just makes me feel really good about my last purchase. Great job as always, Todd. I can't even begin to talk about how much money and time your channel has saved me over the last few years!

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@charlesmanary2936

Жыл бұрын

We use hardwood to heat our house and my dad has owned the same Stihl saw for over 20 years with no problems cutting in either extreme heat or cold.

@em4703

Жыл бұрын

Yea and it's even one of their homeowner "cheapo" saw lineup, not their pro models. Still very good and reliable saw, just harder to repair/work on due to the clamshell design and plastic case compared to the pro line.

@wildbill23c

Жыл бұрын

I think Stihl has always been the top dog for chainsaws....followed closely by Husqvarna, and 3rd being Echo. Those box store saws just don't last long....and in my experience those Poulan saws are pure garbage don't even waste your money and time with one.

This just proves again, that Stihl is really a Brand you can put your money behind. My Dad has two of them Stihl Saws, a small one that by now...has got to be at least 20 years old, the other is a a bigger one, from their Farm Boss Series, and is about 15 years old, both run as smooth as the day they came out of the factory.

@ProjectFarm

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@KreemieNewgatt

Жыл бұрын

Stihl is the brand most of the pros use, which tells you a lot

Great video, I always learn something from watching your videos. Thanks

I’ve had my 62cc Salem Master for over 4 years now. I’ve been running a 24” bar and chain on because of the size or Iron Wood, White oak and Pecan trees I’m cutting. The only thing that has stopped working is the on off switch, easy to replace but why when the choke works just as good. This winter I’ll be doing a carburetor tune up, new spark plug and air filter. For the $68.00 dollars I paid for this thing it has more than paid for itself. I’m sure as long as I keep up with the maintenance on it, this thing will easily last 10 plus years. I also own a 32cc Echo that I’ve had for over 10 years and I haven’t used it at all since I picked up the Salem master, there’s just zero comparison between the two.

@ProjectFarm

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing.

My dad bought a Homelite XL12 back in 1978 when we got a woodstove and it's still running strong to this day. It's really an incredible saw.

@richardchase4019

Жыл бұрын

Early homelights were torque kings and throttle responsive. Excellent saws

@marklindsey4668

Жыл бұрын

@kram that's my name too! Does the home light have a little switch on top. My mechanic going some old abandoned chainsaws and the. 1982 home light cranks up with a minimum of work

@C-Culper4874

Жыл бұрын

@Richard Chase Yeah, they were. I have an XL that is blue. It will cut with any of them, but I after several hours, I will take my Stihl 026 pro or 066 mag.

@waynejohnson9855

Жыл бұрын

@@richardchase4019 homelite made good saws but tried to go cheap in the 80s and soon were out of the competition.

@philipjohnson2652

Жыл бұрын

I owned one for years; didn't use it all that much but it always started and ran well, even after sitting for a long time with old gas in the tank. My son still uses it today.