$100 Knockoff vs $550 Stihl Chainsaw? Let's Settle This! Cutting Speed, Horsepower, Cold Start, RPM
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Let's settle this debate! Genuine Stihl vs a couple of knock offs. Chainsaws compared for weight, fuel efficiency, pulling force to start the saw, cold temperature starting performance, torque, no load sprocket speed, cutting speed on manufactured log, cutting speed with 5 pounds of weight on the bar, cutting speed through hardwood. I purchased all of the gasoline / petrol chainsaws and supplies used to test the chainsaws to ensure an unbiased review. So, thank you for supporting the channel!
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Пікірлер: 5 700
Am I in the market for a chainsaw? No. Did I still enthusiastically watch the entire video? Yes. I’m blown away by the frequency of video releases you do! They are thorough, well edited, I don’t know how you do it so frequently.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@garyandtricia1
Жыл бұрын
I would bet that he's recording multiple tests at a time.
@joegroom9837
Жыл бұрын
@@garyandtricia1 he still does many many tools each week must do around 2 a day the time these would take to make
@garyandtricia1
Жыл бұрын
@@joegroom9837 He puts out a video every Sunday, typically.
@johnlincicum6390
Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm would you please test name brand chainsaw company, farm store brand and generic brands of winter, summer and general purpose bar oils? Husqvarna, Stihl, Mystik, Poulan Pro, Echo, Tractor Supply Company and others?
Would love to see hand cleaners compared to other products like dishwasher soap.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video idea!
@cblock81
Жыл бұрын
YES, Gojo, Lava, Fast Orange....
@brianellison3525
Жыл бұрын
Dawn for the win. And, it's good for ducks.
@markmonroe7330
Жыл бұрын
I like this suggestion.
@13slot28
Жыл бұрын
Yes! Like waterless hand cleaners!
I bought a Stihl MS 290 (precursor to the Stihl in this test) about 15 years ago. I heat my home with wood and live on/manage 40 acres of woods with trails running everywhere so I use the saw quite often. It still fires within 5 pulls, even in the dead of Minnesota winter and cuts great as long as you keep a fresh chain on it. Stihl makes the best chainsaws, hands-down.
@DeathValleyDazed
Жыл бұрын
Love my Stihl saws too.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@tomrutherford4907
Жыл бұрын
I agree. What makes Stihl saws the best is not the day you buy it. It's how well it runs and cuts 15 years down the road.
@mantvydas8810
Жыл бұрын
Dad still uses a husky 254 xp from 1995. It never let him down except one time when the crank end near the clutch broke off and the engine continued to run without turning the chain. A couple years later without replacing anything but the bearings and crank since you have to split the case it still starts up better than our newer 2010 ish jonsered. 5 ish pulls.
@scottschlemmer4787
Жыл бұрын
@@tomrutherford4907 Just like a wife.
You've become my go to guy when I need to buy something. Your demonstrations are always free from bias. Thanks. I've got a suggestion for you. I'm considering attempting installing a water heater and was looking at the "Pro-Press" tools for solder free pipe fitting. An analysis of these tools would be helpful.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
Todd is an amazing human being for those of us who are ‘do it yourselfers’; the time and money he spends on these comparison tests is incredible insofar as he is not compensated by the manufacturers…quite a contribution to America, this is what social media should be used for and I can’t thank Todd enough for his contributions, his tests are the only evaluations I rely on when purchasing a new tool! Thanks Todd!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@mstrpth287
Жыл бұрын
I do the same. I come here first to see if he's reviewed the items.
@nobodyuknow4911
Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm I want to thank you as well, you've really helped to dispel a lot of myths and sales hype around many products and I'm sure the community (and your much-deserved subscriber numbers) all agree that your real-world apples-to-apples testing helps really settle the question around what's worth your money and what's not. Please keep up the great work and I look forward to your next video as always ^_^
@clinkerclint
Жыл бұрын
I agree!!!!!
@h8troodoh
Жыл бұрын
I've gotten the impression he's nothing but a good guy. A good neighbor type guy... with a awesome shop...lol
You can't beat having a video like this show up when you're in the market for something! Project Farm spoils us like always.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@silent1967
Жыл бұрын
Just split the difference and buy a Husqvarna.
@sminthian
Жыл бұрын
And don't forget about used. I see $550 used Stihl's going for $100 all the time, just because someone always wants a brand new one.
@twistedhillbilly6157
Жыл бұрын
@@sminthian Someone gave me a badly abused Echo,, A little shopping on EBay & Home Depot, A new bar, chain, air filter, & cover, plug, oil & gas tank caps (40 bucks total) I have good saw..
@brockbaker3able
Жыл бұрын
For a homeowner, I recommend Echo. Literally just finished cutting with my Echo cs400. For the price and five year warranty you can’t beat it. I cut 5 cord of wood min per year. It’s never let me down
First thing first, I do always check your videos before to make any purchases. You are truly helping a lot of customers like me. Appreciated your amazing work and effort.
Isn’t there budget saws that are identical copies to namebrand saws like Stihl and Husqvarna? You should test those compared to their identical counterpart.
@jbw7346
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but you gotta build them+ some machining to get them running correctly… Farmtec, Holtzfarma…
@Macaziod
Жыл бұрын
@Jb W you don't have to build them. They have assembled ones for sale. I have the 660 clone. Runs really well for less then a 1/3 the cost.
@TheLegendBrolySS
Жыл бұрын
@@Macaziod what brand?
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@ericharris893
Жыл бұрын
Andy enters the chat
It's one of those situations where the Stihl's difference in performance isn't in line with its difference in price, but I have a lot more faith that the Stihl will continue to perform for years to come, unlike the two bargain chainsaws. Awesome review! Thanks! :)
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
@rcnelson
Жыл бұрын
You're likely right. The Chinese saws are built cheaper and would likely not last as long. I suspect the typical buyer would say "so what, when it breaks I'll just toss it and buy another." More throwaway junk, and for those who wish for better quality and longevity will find themselves out of luck.
@lk9456
Жыл бұрын
If you work with it daily or professionally it’s cheap, if you can do in 5 days what the budget takes 7 to do you start to feel like could hundred $ is nothing
@adamnagy1439
Жыл бұрын
The price is not only for the performance. It gives you repairability, good design, so easy reapir. And also, longevity. I doubt as a home owner, you wouldn't need to touch the stihl besides air filter, and bar and chain maintenence. While those other cheap saws would start running funny, mught leak gas, the seals of the crankshaft might wear out, and it could cook itself. It could be repaired, but it's a lot of work on the saw, and not much with it. I had cheap saws/ brushcutters, and not one lasted more than 2 years without getting some serious problem. I have a husqy brush cutter, and stihl saws. No problems yet, only wear of the components. In my opinion, if you are on a budget, get someone who knows these things, and buy a good condition, and proven used stihl, or husqvarna.
@justpassingthrough3166
Жыл бұрын
This is what we pay the premium for. I've got a stihl climbing saw that I've had for almost 7 yrs. In that time I've purchased cheaper climbing saws from Echo, Poulan, and a few other knockoff brands. The stihl still starts everytime within 3 pulls despite being worked in all kinds of weather, dirt, sap, sawdust, etc. You don't buy a stihl because it's revolutionary or cuts wood differently from cheaper brands. You buy a Stihl because it will still cut the same on day 2000 as it did on day 1.
Keeping the big boys honest. Love it.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@usernameisusername
Жыл бұрын
@Don't Read My Profile Photo I won't. You have my word
@LCol718
Жыл бұрын
@Don't Read My Profile Photo Cool story bro.
@mikeb3167
Жыл бұрын
Lol the big boys are anything but honest
I would have concerns about running the Topteng year after year, but the price difference between the Topteng is so great that you might as well forget about buying replacement parts for the Topteng when it breaks -- just buy another saw and keep the old one for parts. Thanks for the video. Good luck with spring jobs on the farm.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome!
@JohnSmith-yv6eq
10 ай бұрын
It probably would be the same part that would break on the second saw. Now you have two broken saws. If the part that broke only cost $20....would you now buy 4 of those parts...repair both saws...and still be ahead? You will have spent 100+100+80=$280....in X years. A friend ran a Stihl 044 for years and then made the mistake of lending it to someone who ran it on straight gas. The cost of just the parts to repair the Stihl was over half that of a new comparable Stihl...and it was a 20 year old saw. . He took a chance and bought a $400 Chinese knock off as he needed to cut firewood.. For the last three years he has cut hardwood blue gum eucalyptus firewood by the cord...using Stihl chains and bars on the knockoff...with no problems. He can't see the Stihl ever being repaired unless he just wants to have a play at repairing it himself....
@wadewilliamson7994
9 ай бұрын
I think the big takeaway there is... Never lend out your saw.😂
@jschlesinger2
9 ай бұрын
@@wadewilliamson7994 Good idea. Maybe hold onto your Stihl and lend the TopTeng to your brother in law?
@Garde538
9 ай бұрын
Last thing i want to do is waste time repairing Chinese equipment
I would love to see some of the HART power tools tested against other tools in previous tests. I was recently looking for more power tools and just realized how extensive their lineup really is. Very impressive coming from Wal-Mart. Thank you for taking the time to go through as many comments as you do and giving us all the content that you do!! 😊
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
@zachjones2678
Жыл бұрын
Flex as well
@jordanalexander615
Жыл бұрын
Harts new cordless tools are actually very powerful compared to their older cousins. But the price is higher of course. Still glad to see smaller brands making waves.
@RocksNRuts4
Жыл бұрын
i bought a 62v green machine, it wont cut butter!!!!!
@wayneanderson1230
Жыл бұрын
Lol.hart tools from Walmart. Best thing to do with them take it home give the tool to your worst neighbor and burn the box for heat.
Great testing as always! Stihl sure does make quality equipment, but if you can't afford one, you showed a pretty good much lower cost option. Thanks for the video!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome!
@xingtheiflightinsider
Жыл бұрын
But always keep in mind, you pay a Chinese knockoff company that didn't have to spend money on R&D, neither takes care about all the details to a good chainsaw. When Stihl sells less or goes out of business, the development of new chainsaws will slow down or completely stagnate since the Chinese have nothing to copy from.
@jamesgoens3531
Жыл бұрын
@@xingtheiflightinsider Even with the knockoffs available, I really don’t think that Stihl will be going out of business anytime soon. In my rural area, Stihl is the leading saw. The Deere dealerships around me sell them as do Rural King and several OPE dealers. Of all the folks I know with saws, exactIy none are knockoffs. I think anyone who needs a 20” bar is probably on the more experienced side of using a saw, at least I hope so. I certainly don’t want to be around someone with little experience who buys this knockoff to try their hand at taking down something with an 18” trunk. 😯 I’m fine with my Echo and its 20” bar unless it’s a sketchy tree I’m not comfortable tackling.
@kobselzea176
Жыл бұрын
@@jamesgoens3531 echo makes a pretty decent saw for homeowner or firewood people
@mike-pm6xn
Жыл бұрын
@@xingtheiflightinsider But in the real world when lots of American people are struggling and just don’t have money, they resort to buying foreign-made products because they need to get a tool to get a job done, even if they know it might not last. Kind of like why some DIYers buy from stores like Harbor Freight - overall cheaper products that are good for smaller jobs or less frequent use… But it’s a nice surprise when a cheap product - whether it’s made in the States, China, Taiwan, wherever - actually is just as good as (or sometimes better than) the big brand tools. And then there’s the consumables of course…
I would like to see electrical tape tested to see what kind sticks the best, most resistant to heat, chemicals, etc. and how well it works in the cold. love your videos!
@spdergod
Жыл бұрын
You'll have to go way back but he did do a video on that.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video idea!
@tommytron2000
Жыл бұрын
Supper 33 That’s the only tape you’ll ever need
@brandonmee-lee1695
Жыл бұрын
For years I had used the harbor freight 10 pack for 5 dollar tape and finally bought myself some real 3M stuff and oh man the difference made me believe in a higher power
@pinrod1
Жыл бұрын
3m super 33
I started heating with wood in 1994 so I needed a chainsaw to cut the wood. Having grown up in a household that heated with wood and ran Stihl saws exclusively I naturally went to my local power equipment dealer and he recommended an 036 Stihl for wood cutting duties. After years of heating with wood and using the 036 to cut all of it I am amazed at how reliable and durable it has been. Other than replacing bars, chains and a drive sprockets I have not had any other problems with the saw. I’m getting too old to cut wood like I used to so I’m going to give my 036 some maintenance and give it to my son for tree removal and storm damage use. I have no idea if Stihl’s newer saws are as good as the older ones because I have never had to replace mine.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
One factor that I really wish you would add as a “food for thought” is the hidden safety cost of cheap knock offs. 2 quick real life examples: A pilot friend who championed using harbor freight grinders so he didn’t have to swap discs … due to the power switch shape and force required his hand skipped right off the switch and right into the disc cutter. (Hospital bill $2000 + $250 carpet cleaner bill & 1 week mandatory time off cuz he couldn’t safely fly passenger airlines with his hand torn up and stitched) Myself while using a cheap Ryobi Hedge trimmer, the carb throttle would stick a little even after letting off the trigger keeping the blades moving (albeit slowly) for a good 10 seconds afterward. While pausing to clear cut branches out of the way I kept my left hand on the D Ring handle while using my dominant right to reach in. Fatigue caused my left hand to relax slightly which caused the back heavy engine to drop and the light blades in front to pop up right into my outreaching hand. Severed 3/4 of my thumb (tendons/nerves/vessels/bone) Hospital + Reconstructive Hand Surgery for the Thumb ($15,000) plus 3 summer months out of commission for my construction job. You can definitely find Chinese imports that will demonstrate great cost performance characteristics but as soon as you encounter a single injury and get that hospital bill you instantly will wish you could have paid $450 extra. When we are talking chainsaws safety is something you don’t screw around with (plastic bar tensioners and flexible clutch lock let’s see how that holds up to a 11,000 rpm chain that comes flying back at you cuz there was more than just a sprocket to grab it after the bar tension fails) I guess you can just buy 5 more replacements when that happens … assuming you still have all your limbs in tact to operate those masterpieces of recycled plastics, chinesium and leftovers that failed quality control.
@realist9311
9 ай бұрын
THIS comment right here… there is no price on life and limb, these budget options are an accident waiting to happen
@nathanielskiba6366
9 ай бұрын
Both of those "real life" stories were examples of stupidity.
@TradeWorks_Construction
9 ай бұрын
@@nathanielskiba6366 You’re absolutely right and the one thing we can absolutely count on in this world is everyone (even the best) will make a stupid choice. The point though is if the people in the story had put more emphasis on quality than price they both could have avoided the painful lesson. And if you would like I would be happy to share the pictures from this “Real Life” Story 😉 and the subsequent hospital bill too. I keep them as a reminder to not cheap out on equipment.
My arm cramped up watching you cut that log SO MANY TIMES! Great job and great video as always!!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@klobe9
Жыл бұрын
for real my man has true functional strength
My father has two stihl saws that are over 35 years old and have seen HEAVY use (one was used to clear the forest site for their house). They both still see occasional use and perform very well. Testament to the quality of Stihl, I doubt many others would still be in use that many years later. Great video!
@remingtonwingmaster6929
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if the budget saws experience mechanical issues about the time the chain needed to be replaced. I use Stihl but Husqvarna is also right there (some would argue better). Either way when it comes to longevity, you get what you pay for.
@kyle1758
Жыл бұрын
That is something often missing from his analysis that I wish he would emphasize a little more. More often than not I'm sure the longevity/durability of the cheaper or knockoff products don't come nearly as close to their more well constructed counterparts. Obviously he can't do long term results for these videos, but there should be a disclaimer that just because a cheapo product performs close to or on par does not make it better in the long run.
@scottyellis3442
Жыл бұрын
Yes Stihl is a good product, I have saws, blowers of stihl but I think Husqvarna is just as good & I bought a Echo saw about 3 years ago & I think it is a little better. My family is in the logging business & switched over to Echo "that's why I bought one" & it is a good saw.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
@em4703
Жыл бұрын
And to think the Stihl is the video is just a plastic homeowner category saw of their line. Their pro saws are stihl are made to last 30+ years easily.
I really like your unbiased, analytical approach to product reviews!
@ProjectFarm
11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Love the comparison! It really shows in this video how much effort, prep and organization you invest in your videos, and that is awesome! I think the real proof in the pudding would be years from now which one is still kicking. I've worked as a volunteer FF and now municipal maintenance, and both jobs always had Stihl saws around, and they kicked butt for years and years. Many of which looked like they shouldn't be working but still were. And now, if I can't breath some life into an old freebie Poulon Pro which (I believe) just needs fuel lines, then it's going in the trash and I'll be saving for a Stihl.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
@shannonwhitaker9630
9 ай бұрын
This is a laugh. These Chi Com 5200 52cc saws are not Stihl clones or knock offs and have never been advertised as such. These are copies of Zenoah 5200 Jap saws. So much for analytic thorough precise research.
Thanks again for another quality video. I still say project Farm is the hardest working channel on KZread. I was happy to see that you are pushing 3M viewers!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
This channel is now our “Go To” prior to purchases for our channel and personal use now!! Thank you for all the through testing. Just purchased and installed the ZECK 13000k winch after your winch review 🏁
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@bixby9797
Жыл бұрын
This channel is a first stop before any purchase of tools, goods or anything you use to do stuff. "I need a grinder, wonder what Todd has to say about that? Oh, of course he tested that"!
You know one of the biggest debates I can think of in the “what oil is best” world is that of the 2-stoke snowmobile engine! I sure would love to see your tests and results on what oil protects a 2-stroke sled engine the best. Categories like cleanest burning, exhaust valve buildup, piston scoring and long term lubrication could be explored…. People would love that! I think you’re just the man for the job!!!!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@johnosczakiewicz9740
Жыл бұрын
Yup" would really like to see that !!
I have a larger version of the 58cc saw and, for the price, have been very pleased with it. In particular the cutting torque under heavy load has been good. I have found the carburettor adjustments are critical to obtaining good performance, but these adjustments are effected by travel vibration. Out the box the saw exhibited the same lack of power seen in this video but came good with a bit of carby adjustment to provide good idling and fast enough top speed. Therefore, if I am taking the saw for a long trip over rough roads I always adjust the carby before cutting. Also, I found the same starting problem seen in this video where around 10 start pulls were required. The trick to avoid this and get my saw started in 1-2 starts is to do two pulls per start. The first pull is incomplete. The second pull is complete and if the saw idle speed is correctly adjusted the saw starts fine. My version of the saw used an E-start system where the energy of the first partial pull is stored and released in the second pull.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
Another baller video , man cutting up that $$$ lumber like it's 1999 hahaha Great video mate. Really enjoy and appreciate all your effort . This channel went from goofy lawnmower torture to THE tool review channel , without ever selling out. Guess a proper goofy video is in order for 3 million subs any day now !
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@thenoblehacker9111
Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm that wasn't a suggestion lol
@Kangaroojack1986
Жыл бұрын
@@thenoblehacker9111 😂😂😂 dudes a Robot
@amarildo988idrizai6
Жыл бұрын
@@Kangaroojack1986im dying to see a reply where he doesnt say “Thanks!!” Must be a robot
@ryanschaff2507
Жыл бұрын
Like it’s pre Biden prices.
Always appreciate your time and effort in bringing us awesome content
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
Thanks for a great test. Interesting to see the big difference between the 2 clones. One thought about the trunk test: you would decrease significantly the effect of progressive variations in trunk diameter on averaged cutting speed for each saw if you were to alternate saws while doing cookies, like 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 etc vs 1 1 1 2 2 2 3 3 3 and then averaging, since tree trunks tend to narrow down in one direction.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
Thanks! Always interesting tests.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it!
We've been a Stihl family since 1985. We still have the first saw. Still runs great, but has had a couple things replaced. My dad and I, have 5 Stihl's between us. 😄
@misfire88
Жыл бұрын
My dad bought a 041 Farm Boss in the early eighties. We heated with wood, so it got worked a lot in the summer and winter for decades, until around 2010 when we got another Stihl. It slowly was relegated to backup status, but the amazing thing was, while he kept up on maintenance, he never once change the sparkplug on it. He'd take it out, clean it, check it and it'd go back in. He had one ready to replace it, but never did. We have five saws between us as well now.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@DetroitMicroSound
Жыл бұрын
@@misfire88 Worth every cent! We also have Stihl trimmers, and blowers. Yea, plugs basically go forever, if you mix properly, and it's still set up by the tuners at Stihl. I also run ONLY Amsoil Saber in everything. I also run Saber in my tuned Moped - Puch E50 engine, with a 70cc DMP cylinder, etc. Imho, works extremely dependably in ANY two-stroke, at 80:1. .........Hmm... has Project Farm covered Amsoil Saber?
@DetroitMicroSound
Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm 👍Many Stihl users have similar stories I think, too.
@codygooch510
Жыл бұрын
You mean you stihl have the first saw. Thought you were a stihl family 🙄
Great video. I don't think anyone realistically expected the Stihl to lose...but it does provide valuable information. As a home owner that may trim up a few fallen trees or do a little cutting the cheapo models might just be the ticket. For anyone else that needs their saw to perform and has the allowable budget we will see a better value sticking to the good brands.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
I bought one of the 52cc Chinese 20 inch saws about two years ago. Every time I grab it it fires right up and it sounds amazing. I never expected it to last very long for $80 but it is exceeding my expectations so far. I never owned a Stihl brand saw but every one I ever used was nearly new and they were always difficult to get started.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
I was actually curious myself! Thank you for the video! Good quality content with lots of detail!
I think it's also great to illustrate that you don't need the top tier tool to handle the job unless you are a professional who uses it all the time. The ~20%-30% uplift would definitely be a big difference, but only if you happen to use the tool all the time.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Great point! Thank you
@TriMarko
Жыл бұрын
It also, however, illustrates that when you are going for unknown brands even at the same price point that performance can vary wildly
@anonym3017
Жыл бұрын
just buy the stihl anyway. its additional lifetime more than makes up for the higher price. after all the things last for years even when used by logging crews.
@rogerhodges7656
Жыл бұрын
Parts and service on the off brands scare me. I can get my 30 year old Stihl serviced anywhere.
@onecookieboy
Жыл бұрын
If you were doing a one off job and nothing more, the cheaper saw might be a good option, but if you wanted something which you could use year after year for a decade or more, go for the quality product.
Another neat series of tests. How about a test of various brands of trash bags? You always do an amazing job on these!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@ac.creations
Жыл бұрын
Yes please. Similar to the glove testing.
@imhooks
Жыл бұрын
Best household trash bag is the HDX Home Depot bag. I'd love to see a test but I won't buy another brand. For it's cost and durability it outperforms any other name brand bag I've used.
@FLINTmitten810
Жыл бұрын
@@imhooks do you ever buy the hdx paper towel
@imhooks
Жыл бұрын
@@FLINTmitten810 I haven't. They any good?
The thing I love most about this channel are the honest reviews. It makes selecting new products much easier since I feel informed. The thing I hate most about this channel are the honest reviews. It makes selecting new products much easier by removing my indecision, leaving my wallet much lighter. At least this time I have escaped unscathed and more confident that I made the right decision buying my MS261 a few years ago!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
I would just like to say I bought a stihl After trying many different chain saw. The reason; I have rumitoid arthritis is both hands. The pulling and the vibrations in the other saws was so bad 👎 😫 it really hurt and could not go into the woods to get wood with my kids anymore. However to me the stilh is easier to start and a lot less vibration in the bar and chain. So I can now enjoy 😉 gathering firewood with my kids again. Thank you Stilh, you folks are awesome. Your saw may cost more, but part of my life I thought was gone forever. Is back.
@ProjectFarm
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
What I love about Todd's tests are how comprehensive they are. I might have a specific use in mind for the item tested, so with the variety of tests you do, I find what will work best for my needs. Thanks so much for what you do!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@chadm6805
Жыл бұрын
With spring coming. I how about a test on best sawzall pruning blades?
I’ve cut dozens of cords of firewood with my Stihl saw. Runs like a top. The chain brake is an important, perhaps life-saving, safety feature. This is one of those instances where it’s worth the extra money to get the better tool because the risk of harm is so great. Thanks, Project Farm!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
@bixby9797
Жыл бұрын
I've got 2 fingers sewn back on after a run in with a Jonsered 92cc without a chainbrake. Be very careful out there and wear eye protection, gloves for grip, chaps and steel toed boots. A saw will tear you up faster than you can react. Trust Me.
@B_Van_Glorious
Жыл бұрын
I own 35 chainsaws. I have an entire rack with 6 shelves for them in my shed. They all run, I've rebuilt them all. I have a gamut of Homelite, from the super 2, 350, 925 and more. A couple old sears saws (with the most aggressive cutting profile I've ever seen), an old Montgomery Ward, a couple Pioneers, and 6 or 7 Stihls. From wee little guys like the 192 to my monster 111cc 075. Most of these saws have been ported. Some have oversized jets because of which. I have to Locktite every bolt on these saws. They are fun, aggressive saws. Especially that Super 2. Of all my saws, 2 have chain brakes. A ms192 and a ms181. The only saw to ever kickback on me is the Super 2. Chainbrakes ARE helpful. but besides knowledge, being the biggest and best safety device, the penultimate safety feature is in the weight. Heavy saws almost never kickback, not that they can't, but if you've spent a week using an old 041 farm boss, you should know enough by then to mitigate this factor. So for my money, I'll take the old all metal, non chain brake, heavy as sin, saw all day. Stand up and buck (shout-out to Buckin!). Let the saw do the work for you. Ymmv I understand the subjectivity of the topic. Safety police surely are incensed. I look forward to their vitriol. I bet they think aliens built the pyramids as well, cuz ppl, ppl just cant do something they cant do. Unimaginable, preposterous! Whether that stems from their over abundance of caution, lack of utility from underdeveloped arms, ignorance, naivety, fear, or maybe they're simply virtue signaling, who am I to say, I'm just speaking from experience, take that how you may and use yr own discretion.
@D-B-Cooper
Жыл бұрын
@@B_Van_Glorious don’t underestimate the number of morons out there. I find a longer bar is safer. I have recently bought a new Stihl $1,200. Just broke in after a couple of cords, really nice.
@Nathan-cx2wg
Жыл бұрын
@@B_Van_Glorious You had me rolling sir. Much like large caliber pistols not everyone likes them. Some just cut firewood once a year some just do some tree trimming from time to time. Buy according to use and skill level. Go wood cutting with friends see what they like to use. chop half a day with theirs with them fueling it. And never borrow a chainsaw!! Any problem that happens will be your fault.
Your videos are so thorough!! Thanks for all the great content. I'm in the market for a jigsaw and I've heard there is a huge difference in cheap ones and quality ones. I'd love to see you test jigsaws!!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
As always, your videos are great. I think you get what you pay for and the one thing you can't demonstrate is durability and how long something will last. I had a Stihl chainsaw (sorry can't recall the model) that was still working after 20 years of hard use (lived at the 4,000 foot level in the Sierras in California and heated my home with wood stoves and bucked about 6-7 cords a year). Retired and moved to Oregon and don't heat with wood anymore but bought a Stihl MS251 a couple of years ago since I have about 100 oak trees on my property and still need a chainsaw. I imagine this saw will outlive me.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@shannonwhitaker9630
9 ай бұрын
Stihl saws are awesome, especially in the Pro Series. If however you only have $80-100 to spend these 52cc Zenoah clone saws do work well considering the price. It’s luck of the draw because you could get a bad one that is a POS out the box.
Durability wise the stihl is gonna outlast both by a significant margin. But for people who need a saw once or twice a year its probably a bit much. Great test! Love the T-shirt, definitely gonna pick one up soon!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@gorkyd7912
Жыл бұрын
I think if you need a saw once or twice a year maybe a battery-powered. Keeping the gas tank, lines, carbs, and spark plugs all clean and working is a big task regardless how expensive your saw, so with batteries you get to ignore most of those. Buying a cheap gas saw just seems crazy to me. May as well get a used Stihl, at least it will have resale value.
@lordred7462
Жыл бұрын
@@gorkyd7912I bought new cheap Einhell gas powered saw in 2009. Today it still probably dosn't have more than 20 working hours. Only thing I changed on it is chain. I drain fuel after every use and let it run until it uses fuel from carb. No issues. Last time it ran was more than 1 year ago. Cheap gas saw is not bad deal if you rarely use it as long it's cleaned and maintainted.
@RobCalhounPGH
Жыл бұрын
@@lordred7462 "as long it's cleaned and maintained." And there's the rub. That's not likely to happen with most who just need it occasionally. But if the homeowner uses a $100 saw to cut down a $200 tree, then never again, they still come out ahead.
@John_Redcorn_
Жыл бұрын
@@gorkyd7912 yep. The battery powered saws are so good now theres almost no reason to buy a gas saw unless you use one for work
One thing to add to the test should be parts availability and service support. The Stihl you can buy parts or get service and have it warrantied. The other two won’t have anything and if there’s any issues you gonna have to toss the saw.
@RustyZipper
Жыл бұрын
I love my local Stihl dealer, I know everyone by name. Not because I have repairs but because I have so many. Like anything, a bad dealer experience means you’ll never buy their brand. That’s why I don’t buy off car dealerships nor let them touch my vehicles 😆
@1pcfred
Жыл бұрын
Considering how crappy it can be to work on chainsaws tossing it might be the best option.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback!
@gorkyd7912
Жыл бұрын
Yep, this affects resale value more than anything. No one wants to buy a used saw when there's no parts available. So even though you pay less up-front, you can't even get half that back in resale. Whereas you buy a new Stihl and lightly use it you can recoup a big chunk of that when you resell, so if you just keep it for 5 years you might actually pay less overall for the Stihl. My theory anyway.
@1pcfred
Жыл бұрын
@@gorkyd7912 what do I care about resale value? I'm not in the used saw business. If I buy a saw it's because I need a saw. And no used tools ain't worth jack. Ten cents on the dollar, maybe. Unless you're selling to a fool.
Thank you very much I live in Colorado. I do a lot of logging and I’m glad to see that a top tang is such a good saw. I have huskies and stills, but I would like to have a top tang just as a throw around saw and one my neighbor could borrow, but anyway, thank you so much for the extensive scientific evaluation of the saws.
@ProjectFarm
Ай бұрын
You are welcome!
Can you test hiking backpacks? Too many fall apart too easy. Love your videos! Best KZreadr
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for supporting the channel! I really appreciate it! Thanks for the suggestion!
Gotta say that $100 Topteng was pretty impressive. I doubt it would match the durability of the Stihl, but if you just needed a saw for one time use it seems like a great option.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@gorkyd7912
Жыл бұрын
Nah, it's a bad deal even if it's much cheaper. Even for one use and even you're broke, get a loan and buy the Stihl. You can resell it when you're done and you'll end up paying the same as the Topteng overall. Except, for that one time use, you'll have a better saw, safer, and you won't have to add more trash to the landfill. Trust me, i am as frugal and penny-pinching as they come, I have been there. For a 1-time use the absolute best idea is to get a used Stihl that works, because that you can resell for what you paid. But if you can't make sure it works, a new Stihl or Husqvarna is a close 2nd best deal.
@allenwilliams1376
Жыл бұрын
@@gorkyd7912 😂😂 dumb, but you won't understand why
@PsychoticBovine
Жыл бұрын
@@allenwilliams1376 Why is he dumb? buy once, cry once. It might be 5 times the price, but with Stihl you can get parts for it, has local support and repair, and it's more durable. As you get older, you will understand that durability and support trumps everything else.
@MicahGourde
Жыл бұрын
@Allen Williams is dumber than a hemlock stump and incapable of understanding why. I can buy a Stihl Farm Boss or similar saw all day long for $150 - $250. If you buy a dirty one in good shape, you can easily clean it up, tune it, and replace the spark plug. You can then resell it at a small profit if you got a good deal on it.
I rarely buy anything anymore without checking here first. The best part is, the tests you do here reflect exactly what I find out in the field. Keep up the great work Todd... we all appreciate it more than you know.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Just bought a MS271 last week to clean up storm damage. Great saw.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Nice!
I recently bought a Stihl MS 250 based on one of your videos. I’m loving it! Thanks!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Glad to hear!
Did the hand impact screwdrivers get any support?
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
I only saw the communication between us and was hoping other viewers would give the request a like. Maybe there will be more interest this week.
@coolbreezeatp
Жыл бұрын
I would like to see that myself. Good suggestion
@rusty2248
Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm you have seen the recommendation for the tool right?
As always, an excellent test! Your work is invaluable! 🙂 I was kind of hoping I'd see a Holzfforma/Farmertec clone here to get the numbers . I got their G660, which is a 1:1 clone of the Stihl MS660, and I love it. It's great for both milling and bucking, and hasn't let me down yet! Paid $250 shipped from China a couple years back, took a few weeks, and after some basic checking for loose bolts, it started right up and is still kicking ass!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Thanks for the suggestion.
@bceltics121
Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm I second that. Holtzfforma and Neo-Tec vs the real saws. Though I realize this would be a pricey test considering the saws are clones of pro saws.
@mikemaddy6710
Жыл бұрын
Another vote for neotec. They make a ms380 clone also (72cc I think) only 200 bucks
A plunge cut would have been a interesting test. That tree you cut down, looking at the rings, looks like it was once 2 trees side by side that eventually grew into one tree.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@youtubeisawesome2487
7 ай бұрын
the double heart was at the limb split at the top not the butt
It would be cool to see engine compression before and after the final tests. Cool video!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
Let's all take a moment to appreciate how fit Todd is! These were kinda intensive tests (many of them are) and he handles them with ease 💪🏿
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@makattak88
Жыл бұрын
Those forearms are a big tell that he works with his hands daily.
@kingmarz3635
Жыл бұрын
He’s work tough And his hard work is paying off
@coreyfrasnelly7364
Жыл бұрын
Farm boy tough!!!! Only way to be 🙏
@kingmarz3635
Жыл бұрын
That’s the toughest of tough
*i love these knockoff reviews so much its unreal. tnx PF*
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
Thanks for the video. It would have been interesting to tune the saw and see if that improved it. Even if bringing it somewhere to have them tune it. But maybe that's for another video, tuning the carb, and then opening up the airflow and tuning it again. FWIW, the chain, brake, and chain adjustment are similar to what are on my big and small Huskies.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
Your videos are aways informative and helpful. Please don't stop .
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome!
Awesome video! Would love to see a review of chisel sets for woodworking ranging from budget to higher end.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the video idea.
great test. I'd be curious to see how the internal construction of the $100 saws compares..... they had to cut corners somewhere build quality of things like the ignition system, the piston/rings/con rod and crankshaft would be interesting to see.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video idea!
This is good stuff! Thanks for all the content you create!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
This just came up my mind, i think it would be really interesting for people who work with machines that have micro vibrations. Can you test anti vibration gloves. Like wichones are the best at reducing it etc. I think this might be even really interesting
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
Love your videos, educating someone is not something easy to do and you do an outstanding job representing the various tools. Awesome work PF
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
Whenever you upload a new video it makes me smile... Thank you! 😊
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! That means a lot to me!
When felling trees, the reliability of the saw is of paramount importance. Once you have started cutting into the trunk, you have passed the point of no return. If the saw then breaks down or stops, you have a problem. If only bucking or limbing trees, it will only be an annoyance if the saw stops.
Dude, you go all out on your videos. Keeop up the good work.
@ProjectFarm
8 ай бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome!
Would have been interesting to include a mid priced saw such as the equivalent Husqvarna.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
I'm a lifelong diehard Stihl man, that being said I think that 52cc saw would be great for homeowners! It would outperform most of the cheap saws I've seen like the poulan wildthing or the generic homelite they sell at the big box stores. Great video Todd!
@bixby9797
Жыл бұрын
my opinion isn't worth much but after better than 40yrs of saw use I think a 52cc is the sweet spot for general all around use for homeowners and even professionals except for the larger stuff. If you need a bigger saw than a 52cc as a homeowner you probably should consider hiring someone. Someone not doing it day in and day out should not pick up a 60cc or bigger saw for any reason. A 40cc with a 16in bar for occasional use will get the job done, too. It's what I carry in the pick up.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@uncouthboy8028
Жыл бұрын
Sad thing is Poulan and Homelite used to make very adequate saws.
A friend has a cheap knockoff and surprisingly performs well. I also bought a knock-off ms381 for an in-between as my ms 661c was too big at times, and my ms251c was too small at times. For a knockoff in between saw, it's pretty good, and I would recommend it. Just don't think you can have a knockoff as a stand-alone saw. Each to their own I guess.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
Awesome comparison! I actually bought a 52cc Chinese chainsaw from ebay a while back and never used it, still in the box. Thank you for doing this video! Makes me feel a little better about actually using it.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
I would really like to see a comparison on compact cordless routers. For example craftsman, ryobi, bauer, Dewalt, and rigid. Thank you, I hope you see this message. I have been watching for a few years now and really enjoy how in depth you go with the products. And your honesty is always much appreciated.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
Interesting results, great testing, and well edited video, big thumbs up from me!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
Hey! I've noticed on recent videos you've stopped mentioning where each product is made. It may seem small but that was one of my favourite parts about these videos just because pretty much nowhere else documents country of origin and I feel like that's valuable information that deserves to be preserved. I may be in the minority here since I haven't seen any other comments mentioning it but just wanted to give my two cents. Regardless, thank you for all your hard work and for the service you provide by making these videos.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
I’d love to see a comparison between automotive creepers (the things with the caster wheels that you lay on and use to go under a car to work). I have a Kobalt one that is very sturdy, but not very low to the ground and doesn’t allow much range of motion for your arms. I’m in the market for a new one and would love to know what Todd finds out!!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
I can say that the Stihl will most likely outperform the knockoff before watching! My dad's personally put his Stihl (forgot the model name) through a lot of use over possibly 6+ years now and it's still working just as good! He only had to get the wires on the ignition coil fixed once, the rest has been changing bars/chains and cleaning it after each use. I will be editing this once I watch it, for now I just wanted to say thanks for still making these and big props for always having some amazing ideas! I loved the folding chainsaw vid! If you ever want to do something april fools related, a suggestion I have is test some crocs. I have one pair of thick rubber crocs at home which have saved my toes from some falling firewood (ok, not from head height, somewhere around waist height) and you could compare it to something as funny as barefoot or regular shoes. Edit: The testing methods are genius as always! As for the "knockoff" one, I meant the 58cc Saw which looks like a Stihl. I didn't expect to see the Topteng perform this well too!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
@bixby9797
Жыл бұрын
The higher RPM's are the thing. Another is a metal bottom vs a plastic like on the cheaper model saws. My Jonsered Pro 52cc runs 13,000 rpm's and that makes all the difference. Had a Husky 41cc for 20 years and cut 8-10 cords a year with it. Finally gave up the ghost but I sure got my money's worth out of it. Stihl, Husky, Jonsered, Echo, Sachs (now Makita). Take your pick but make sure if your serious to go to a saw shop not a box store and get the higher end saws. BTW: you will see more Huskys than Stihl's in my woods with Stihl catching up now adays although I'm a Husky and Jonsered fan.
I work in a in a stihl dealership and I sell and work on these saws all the time, I always watch these videos because it helps me compare brands and explain what’s better or worse, I always recommend anyone who’s interested in power tools like this one to watch this account, you always make a great breakdown
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Thanks for sharing the channel!
Just bought the topteng 52cc for home use it works just fine 4th item I buy just by watching your video reviews. Good job keep up the good work. Would you happen to know where I can buy a replacement carburetor or parts to have on hand for this saw ? Do you have a link for the topteng parts ?
The Chinese knock offs actually seem to have a lot in common with the Japanese Zenoah G5000/5200 if I look at the general construction of the saws. Also sold as Redmax, Hitachi and Tanaka. Some of their newer saws are even sold as Husqvarna. A comparison between the Chinese and the original would be nice to see, as I also understood that the Zenoah is like the blueprint for the Chinese chainsaws. A lot of parts are even interchangeable.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
Great comparison! While the knock offs may be cheap, the Stihls are by far a better value. They will last for years. I Stihl have the one I bought in the 90’s even after years of heavy use. It’s a back up saw now but just used it yesterday. It’s a lot heavier than the modern Stihls but that works in its favour when bucking firewood from large diameter logs.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@christianzaccone4347
Жыл бұрын
Steel products now are nowhere near what they were in the nineties. Unfortunately They're built just like everything else now. Engineer to work for a specific length time. Ask any pro and they will tell you that we'd rather have the old 80s & 90s o series Then these new saws. Had a steel o84 for 24 years. Worked every time like the day I bought it. Till the date some scumbag stole it.
@tannerhartl5175
Жыл бұрын
@@christianzaccone4347 Dumbass geezer opinion
@dufinsmrts
Жыл бұрын
@@christianzaccone4347that's sad he must have known it was a good saw.
@tri2brite313
Жыл бұрын
@@christianzaccone4347 why are old sthil saws better? Because they are louder, heavier, vibrate more and burn fuel less efficiently? It's pretty hard to CONVINCE people that what they own is always NOT the best BECAUSE they own it. Just saying....
Your videos always make my sundays thanks Todd ! Your work is appreciated more than you know
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Happy to hear!
For firewood processing used years 1800-2000W electric saw only, they cost about $30-50 a piece. In the woods is different but Stihl or Husqvarna is a good choice and they last forever! My favorite Husqvarna 42 Special is from 1993 and still good as new, small, light and powerful!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
I really like how thorough is this one. I appreciate that you have included the cutting tests with no weight, just with you operating the saw. Although there is human there, I think it is more accurate since stronger motors can be pushed harder.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
Good test, Commander and it went about like I thought it'd go. When I went looking for a mid-sized saw I ended up getting a new one because all the ones I found were really too big. I got a 261 or a 26 in the older number because they were recommended by my pal that ran the saw shop at the ACE and then got his own shop. He did all the repairs for the electric co-op and said that their 26's or 261's were the toughest he'd ever seen so that's what I got. They're a commercial grade saw and a SCREAMER like my old Super 45 was! The son-in-law finished cutting up all the logs here with it and a maple was very close to 36 inches through with a 20 inch bar. The tests you ran on these 3 were as good as there is and could be, no problem. The proof is in the cutting and no way around it. Hope yall are doing o.k. with all the big blows down around there. Thanks again and BLESSINGS to the whole Farm!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Hi Lewie, Thank you for the positive feedback on the review! Great decision on the saw you purchased! That's a nice saw that'll last a long time! It's always a pleasure to read your comment! Wishing yall many BLESSINGS!!!
@lewiemcneely9143
Жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFarm Yall too and I always try and get stuff based on the performance angle of it all. Price is in there too but what it will do and what it needs to do is almost foremost in the back of my balding head. Happy early spring and remain as calm as need be and God Bless!
Amazing comparative!! Thanks for sharing
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome!
Great video as always. Thank you. I was given an ms290 right after buying a 346xp. It’s a good saw. I usually run the xp just because it’s lighter, although I did just use the stihl for 2 maples that were about 20” round. I am considering a 372,ms440 or a holtzforma clone of one or the other. Putting those used against their clones new would be an episode I find entertaining and useful instead of mostly entertaining like this episode. Putting the ms250 and ms290 in the mix would help see how much advantage any of those options it. Edit:I have no hesitation spending your money for the episode. I might even be willing to buy the second place saw off you so you can keep the winner. 🎉
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
@bixby9797
Жыл бұрын
I ran a 272xp for years cutting softwood logs and pulp with firewood (maple, yellow birch, beech) for home use on the side. Saw was a workhorse.
Stihl is the only saw in this household and it runs year after year. It would be interesting to see the long term of maybe over 3-5 years to see if the knock-offs are still running and are usable. A year by year update if possible would be nice.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@lt.lasereyez8891
Жыл бұрын
Owned a few budget ones in the past, they don't last long but didn't want to spend a 1000 on a Still so bought a second hand Husqvarna from the 90's from a dude who threw his back out, best tool in my shed and has been for years.
@megaluckydog1212
Жыл бұрын
... if they haven't torn your leg up, lol.
@bjjohns
Жыл бұрын
Only one note. Always drain the fuel in a Stihl if you only use it occasionally.
@CbrF4i600cc
Жыл бұрын
For 1/5th the price.. 5 knock offs will out last 1 stihl
Drill pumps I would love to see a portable drill pump showdown! Does anyone else feel like they are all junk? The notion of a drill pump is so awesome but usually such a let down in practice. I'd suggest testing maximum suction lift heights, dry run testing, maximum discharge pressure, various viscosity fluids and of course include the perfect commentary on build quality, price point, etc. Thanks for your consideration. You have built an amazing repository for the common man.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
I noticed when I check compression on something with those small 10mm spark plug threads that the adapter throws off the result by 50 PSI. This is be a the piston and cylinder are tiny and the adapter adds like 50 percent more volume to the cylinder. Could you make a video proving this and test all kinds of the compression tester thread adapters on different size cylinder
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
Another great, educational, and well done video. Always interesting content. Thanks for going to all of the trouble to make these fantastic videos.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
It would be interesting to test the effectiveness of the air filters, because that would have a significant impact on the longevity of the saws. Great clip though!
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
I wish this video would’ve came out before I bought my 58 cc. Mine has been pretty good to me though. I’ve had it for about two years and still running strong with the same chain but next time I will go for the 52.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
Husqvarna is a good mid range saw brand that deserves testing. The 450 Rancher is similar in power to the MS291 with a street price of $380-420. It has a primer bulb and compression release, so it starts in a couple of easy pulls. This is what I have and it keeps up with the Stihl in all but the most demanding use.
@ProjectFarm
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
Video Idea: I would be really interested in calipers. I think that there's a lot of different options out there and I always want to know whether it is worth spending the extra money for them. I need precise measurements, but sometimes I don't want to break the bank if something would work for cheaper.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video idea.
@AustinDemeyere
Жыл бұрын
Second this, that would be a great test
@galaxywide6760
Жыл бұрын
If you need precise measurements, you need a micrometer rather than calipers. Even a cheap mic is vastly more accurate than a set of calipers.
@joesikkspac7904
Жыл бұрын
@Galaxywide what a machinist considers accurate is usually a smidge or ten different than the average bloke.
@joesikkspac7904
Жыл бұрын
The biggest difference between cheap and expensive calipers is the build quality. A couple of guys at work are on their third fowler brand calipers that aren't IP67 rated, while I'm still using my 17 year old Mitutoyo IP67 8" caliper. If you work in an environment where you use cutting fluids or you will be sweating, you absolutely must have an IP65 or IP67 rated digital. Dials are obviously liquid proof except for when they get submerged and the dial numbers are ruined. Dust and dirt are the big enemy of dial calipers. Vernier can withstand everything but bad eyes.
Another great video. I liked the fact that you tried the econo saws with a Stihl chain. Personally, everything I have owned from Stihl has had a negative impact on my mental health so I was rooting for the underdog. Looks like you have a slow hydraulic leak in that front-end loader.
Loved the comperson of the saws would like to see name brands like Johnsred steel ect But I would like to know on fuel additives which one's really do work or even burn for if in the fuel tank they should burn like fuel but I have found most don't even the ones that remove water how do they work ? Just thinking
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
Hey Todd, just became a Patreon supporter. Thank you for everything that you do.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks for becoming a Patreon supporter!
Another great video. I also wonder how how the knock off saws would hold up long term compared to the stihl. I have 2 stihl saws that are over 10 years old and they are still running great and cutting wood good.
@dad1432
Жыл бұрын
Knockoffs get the job done but easily break if you drop them, like I often do.
Great video as always! Would like to see a comparison of tool belts, such as comfort, storage in each pocket, resistance to normal wear and tear, and overall construction.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for the video idea.
@ac.creations
Жыл бұрын
My advice as a tradesman; AWP bags are quality, but the Husky ones are cheap and with a shoulder strap addition quite comfortable. If possible, don't wear bags. If you have to for your job, consider finding a different one.
Another great review. Many thanks! Hey...an idea for a review. Seems kinda simple and even stupid, but have you considered doing one on can openers? (If it hasn't been done already.) Between the ones I get for my various outings and properties, I end up buying more than one a year. I'll buy the more expensive ones when available, but often I'll have to get a cheap one, if it is all the store has. The problem is that none of them really seems to last much longer than the others.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
I bought a UK import chinese based saw about 8 years ago for around £120, 58cc 20" bar, (timber pro I think) as I couldn't justify the ~£300-400 for a stihl, to my amazement, it starts 2nd pull most times, cuts pretty well and is still running strong. It might not cut quite as fast, but its been amazing value for money. Only think I have replaced is the chain and pull cord.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
Would love to see a video on (framing) hammers, ranging from cheap basic hammers all the way to something as high end as a Martinez M1. Curious about how brands like Estwing and Vaughn would compare to the Martinez and even basic $10 Home Depot hammers.
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@bixby9797
Жыл бұрын
That's one I'd like to see. I've used an Estwing for years but I've wondered if Martinez or Stiletto was worth the price.
@willemveldhuizen704
Жыл бұрын
@@bixby9797 I swung a 20oz steel Fiskars but bit the bullet and got the 15oz Martinez M1. What a hammer. Hits way harder than the Fiskars yet feels 50% lighter. Basically does the work for you, an absolute joy to use. Can not recommend it enough. Not trying to get anyone into serious financial trouble but if you’ve been doubting getting one, this is your sign. Get one, you will not regret it.
Another excellent product show down video PF! Stihl products are great. However, for the minimal amount of cutting that I would be doing with a chain saw & the monetary consideration, that Topteng would be my choice! Thanks for all of your videos! 👍👍
@ProjectFarm
Жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.