Best BUDGET 308 Rifles - Are They Worth The Money?

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Welcome To Ron Spomer Outdoors! In this episode, I dig into three of the best budget 308 rifles and try to answer the question, "Are they worth the money?"
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  • @alexfortin7209
    @alexfortin72096 ай бұрын

    Tikka T3x is the only “budget rifle” for me! I’ve lost so much time in money trying to “save money” that I’m sticking to “value rifles”.

  • @kevingipe8242

    @kevingipe8242

    6 ай бұрын

    The bergara b-14 is also a good option, I have one in .270 and it’s an absolute tac driver

  • @boksteve

    @boksteve

    6 ай бұрын

    I bought a T3 in .308 on the recommendation of a close friend that was thrilled with his in .30-06. I'm a taller guy and had to add the buttstock extension. Once I had that sorted there has been no looking back. It performs consistently with a Leopold 3x9 using Hornady whitetail in 150gr. The only improvement I would make would be a double stack magazine to get to 4 or 5 rounds. I agree that 3 is all you should need but more is still better. I have the 5 round mag but don't like how it extends because it is so close to the trigger guard. But that's is just me whining. If you are in the market for a new rifle, this should be high on your list for consideration.

  • @frankkee8709

    @frankkee8709

    6 ай бұрын

    Sako or tikka is all I’ll buy the bean counters have ruined the rest

  • @michaelhill6451

    @michaelhill6451

    6 ай бұрын

    @@kevingipe8242 I have a B-14 HMR in 308. Accuracy is 1 MOA-ish for 5-shot groups with the best handloads I could work up for it. Like in Ron's previous video where he shot the B-14 HMR in 308, it's extremely picky on the bullets it likes. I've seen plenty of great range reports for the B-14 HMR in other calibers but I don't think they are anything to write home about in 308. Also, it turns out the threads on my bolt shroud are flattening out and I believe it is causing ignition problems. My Tikka CTR on the other hand averages under 0.5 MOA for 5-shot groups and I never had any issues whatsoever with it. Anyway, My B-14 HMR sits in the safe because it's no fun to shoot compared to my Tikka.

  • @blingbling574

    @blingbling574

    6 ай бұрын

    Most big game hunters in my area have expensive rifles and scopes. They have zero range time. They even scoff at a .22 for practice.

  • @tahoe829
    @tahoe8296 ай бұрын

    That Savage 110 .308 tactical that was featured last night really seems to be one of the best rifles shot yet!

  • @jfess1911

    @jfess1911

    6 ай бұрын

    @@TheMasada05 I have always appreciated the Savages for accuracy, but am not so fond of the way the action feels. The Tikka feel better to me. I got spoiled because my first couple centerfire bolt actions were Lee Enfields that were butter smooth. Nothing else has quite measured up.

  • @xxdizannyxx

    @xxdizannyxx

    6 ай бұрын

    U just say that cuz u bought one

  • @robertbach9376

    @robertbach9376

    6 ай бұрын

    I got a savage 110 308 bull barrel and it's a great shooter. It's too long of barrel, over 10lbs, gross stock, front heavy, disgusting action but its trigger is okay and it's very accurate

  • @shannondavis6571

    @shannondavis6571

    6 ай бұрын

    The Savage has shot best so far. However, I think the Bergera got cheated. Ron didnt realize it had to sling studs when he was shooting and threw off the accuracy.

  • @CB-ck6ze

    @CB-ck6ze

    6 ай бұрын

    @@shannondavis6571if my bergara ridge 300wm is any indication, the bergara didn’t get shorted. I’ve put 7 different factory loads through it and one has shot sub moa at 100. About to test handloads and see if that helps the situation. Meanwhile my $450 Ruger American predator in 308, like they tested here, is well under MOA if I do my part. My handloads have printed 1/2” groups when I was having a good day.

  • @bwatt529
    @bwatt5296 ай бұрын

    You should test the Howa 1500. Definitely a great budget rifle

  • @MrLordromanian
    @MrLordromanian6 ай бұрын

    the tikka t3x performs better then most "expensive" rifles, even though at 1300 for a new t3x in canada, I would say it is more on the mid tier then budget. By far the best rifle on the market atm imo. My custom t3x in .308 will shoot .325 inch 6 shot groups with handloads....

  • @Adam-dn1vp
    @Adam-dn1vp6 ай бұрын

    I got a savage axis gen 1 at chinamart several years ago for $250. Shoots great groups with anything under 170 grains.

  • @chevyon37s

    @chevyon37s

    6 ай бұрын

    I think I’ve still got the receipt when I bought mine. $199.98 after tax. Unfortunately it doesn’t shoot worth a damn.

  • @elliottbutts153
    @elliottbutts1536 ай бұрын

    The Ruger for the money is hard to beat. Enjoying the series

  • @Jeff-re1gp

    @Jeff-re1gp

    6 ай бұрын

    Except ruger safety is so darn loud it's worthless as a deer. Gun

  • @jimmyholliman7103

    @jimmyholliman7103

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Jeff-re1gp I have taken a lot of deer with my Ruger American 308win. And wouldn't take a dime for my Ruger

  • @rediron44

    @rediron44

    6 ай бұрын

    I love mine. Hasn't missed a beat.

  • @michaelwilson9986

    @michaelwilson9986

    6 ай бұрын

    Nice to hear 2x that about free floating vs full bedded. They both work depending on the rifle itself

  • @michaelwilson9986

    @michaelwilson9986

    6 ай бұрын

    Yep Having Too Much Fun... Shame on Ya... Carry On

  • @jimfields9491
    @jimfields94916 ай бұрын

    I have the same Ruger Predator in .308. They seem to like ammunition in 165ish range. I paid about $400 new for mine. Best deer buster for the money. And the Tupperware stock , I ground out the channel and used some filler. Stiff as a board. The free float is literally enough to slide cardboard through.

  • @jimyeats

    @jimyeats

    6 ай бұрын

    Yeah I took my Ruger American in 270 and trimmed back the inner top edges of the polymer stock towards the end as it would often kiss the barrel with any pressure, and then I added filler/epoxy at the base of the barrel and a little bit into the stock to stiffen it up.

  • @ManFlaver
    @ManFlaver6 ай бұрын

    I'm loving this series. I hope you keep making videos like this. Keep it up gentlemen!

  • @shawn_ten_toes
    @shawn_ten_toes6 ай бұрын

    Im really enjoying the .308 content. I think it's a great performer, and just as important to me is that it's available, affordable, and has a ton of choices in loads and rifles. Add it all up, and it's a great choice.

  • @boksteve

    @boksteve

    6 ай бұрын

    Agreed! Ron doesn't hesitate to share what he finds to be shortcomings compared to more modern rounds but I do appreciate that he doesn't dismiss it completely. He operates at a different level of precision that is beyond what is necessary for me to attain, if I even could. In the end, he's informative and fair about the round I use.

  • @ca2129

    @ca2129

    6 ай бұрын

    Totally agree, however, the cost saving’s on ACCURATE .308 ammo for my rifle wasn’t as big of a savings as I thought it would be. But still feel it was the right choice for me because my next bolt gun cost of ammunition will not be considered (as heavily). 7mm PRC, 7mm Rem Mag, 28 Nosler, 6.8 Furry.

  • @shawn_ten_toes

    @shawn_ten_toes

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@ca2129I'm tossing around getting a 28 Nosler as well. Not that I need anything else, but that's not the point. 😂

  • @blingbling574

    @blingbling574

    6 ай бұрын

    To make the most out of your .308, get a .22 for practice on paper. Even get a coach for an afternoon. With enough practice you wont even need a scope for your .308.

  • @brandon1910
    @brandon19106 ай бұрын

    so far I'd go with the savage 110 tactical. Not overly heavy, great accuracy and features.

  • @matthewspeller

    @matthewspeller

    6 ай бұрын

    Just avoid the savage with the bolt release in front of the trigger guard. Seriously limits your aftermarket stock options. Great rifles otherwise.

  • @hunterayers2371

    @hunterayers2371

    4 ай бұрын

    My savage 110 tactical is like carrying a 50 pound bag of concrete in woods.. heaviest gun ive ever owned.

  • @joshh5853
    @joshh58536 ай бұрын

    I’ve always thought the Savages are ugly and clunky to operate but every one I’ve shot has been more accurate than I’m capable of doing! Chase got pretty lucky over all with his selections

  • @AussieInCA11

    @AussieInCA11

    6 ай бұрын

    I wish the actions were smoother on them, bolt lift is always heavy but they shoot!

  • @pan8a

    @pan8a

    6 ай бұрын

    The Savage 110 Storm and Hunter are good looking rifles, especially with the Accu stock

  • @robertbach9376

    @robertbach9376

    6 ай бұрын

    Same exact experience for me

  • @lrharner

    @lrharner

    6 ай бұрын

    i have a 10fp in 308 i catch crap for the looks (bedded a thumb hole stock) but have not found its "pet load" my savage 17HMR shoots under .5" at 100yd no problem best 5 shot group to date .331

  • @walkercustoms

    @walkercustoms

    6 ай бұрын

    I was a Remington fan until I started shooting Savage rifles. I've had excellent accuracy vs price with them. For bolt guns I turn to Savage. Though I'm probably going to try one of the Mossberg rifles in the future in 375 Ruger.

  • @michaelwinckler3211
    @michaelwinckler32116 ай бұрын

    This video desperately needs time stamps

  • @zayacz123
    @zayacz1236 ай бұрын

    This is a great idea for a series! Thank you for sharing!

  • @rickeylahey2152
    @rickeylahey21526 ай бұрын

    Howa 1500 seems to be the best budget rifle imo. You can get one for under $500 that comes with a threaded barrel and they’re pretty lightweight

  • @donwyoming1936

    @donwyoming1936

    6 ай бұрын

    Been packing a HOWA in 308 Win for 20 years. Definitely the best of the budget rifles out there.

  • @Getoutside308

    @Getoutside308

    6 ай бұрын

    Agreed!

  • @cooper_tx

    @cooper_tx

    6 ай бұрын

    I've got a Weatherby Vanguard (Howa 1500 barreled action) for 550 bucks with a decent 3-9 scope. Its an awesome shooter. Hoping to drop a buck when the season opens this weekend!

  • @rickeylahey2152

    @rickeylahey2152

    6 ай бұрын

    @@cooper_tx The vanguards are great looking rifles. Weatherby does a great job with the cerakote and color selection on those rifles

  • @gurpreetgill3197

    @gurpreetgill3197

    6 ай бұрын

    Can’t compare to tikka the action and barrels are second to none made by sako hows is garbage compared to tikka

  • @MkadinA01
    @MkadinA016 ай бұрын

    My first gun I still have is a Mossberg hunting rifle in 30-06. Basically the same gun as the first 2 except the barrel is fluted and free floating. Same 2 stage trigger. I was hitting 3-4 inch groups at 600 yards. That’s is WAY more accurate than I’ll ever need to be but man is it fun to do. I’m hesitant to try a target rifle cause that’s good enough for me.

  • @james2982
    @james29826 ай бұрын

    I feel like y'all are not letting the barrels cool off long enough in between shot strings for these tests. I will usually do 8-12 min between 3 shots groups, if I am shooting for tightest groups. the 150 grain always seems to shoot best and it is always the first one up to bat. HMM... Anyways thank you for all the amazing content, absolutely LOVE your youtube channel and podcast. I am a die hard viewer/listener.

  • @camonly849

    @camonly849

    5 ай бұрын

    Honestly I think shooter error is bigger than the barrels being to hot in this instance.

  • @rollercam351
    @rollercam3516 ай бұрын

    After dragging my CZ 550 varmint 22-250 around for many years I found the ligher weight standard stocked rifles to be the way to go!

  • @BourbonPrepper
    @BourbonPrepper6 ай бұрын

    I won't say I'm shocked on the Remmy but I'm sad. I worked for them, I love everyone in Ilion, and I was rooting for it to perform. The Hogue touches the barrel and I always put my SPS Tactical AACSD units in aftermarket stocks from Stocky's or Magpul. I did hope Ron was going to run a 700 Police or 700 LTR, which would have been a massive performance gain. And as expected; Tikka is the rock star of the day. Sako Finland is exceptional stuff.

  • @SEOKLADUCKIN

    @SEOKLADUCKIN

    6 ай бұрын

    When Remington retooled around 1999 or so we bought several SPS stainless rifles , 300 rum , 7mag, and a few more. They all shot GREAT with the 300 rum and 7 mag at top, my buddy kept the 300 , I kept the 7mag , my 7mag will put 3 - 140 Nosler BT into a .226 hole , 1st load I tried, 65.5 of RL-19. Both rifles just are amazing and all that was done to them was Trigger, and firing pin systems.

  • @Kman31ca

    @Kman31ca

    6 ай бұрын

    Ya, Remington has that classic look and feel, but from my experience it's a crapshoot to find one that shoots good. Could get a sub moa gun or it's shooting just like Rons was.

  • @BornAgain2019

    @BornAgain2019

    6 ай бұрын

    I have the 2016 limited edition Rem 700 CDLSF in 35 Whelen. Fit and finish are exceptional. No problem cloverleafing 3 225 gr Sierras @100yds. Awesome rifle in a much under appreciated cartridge.

  • @45-70Guy

    @45-70Guy

    6 ай бұрын

    @@BornAgain2019one of my top favorites.

  • @randallunruh
    @randallunruh6 ай бұрын

    I got my wife a 308 remington 700 ADL. It was very picky on the ammo and would consistently shoot 1.75 - 2 inch groups. I free floated the barrel and now it is sub moa to 1.25 inch groups at 100 yards consistently and typically around the 2 inch mark at 200 yards

  • @barnetts9812
    @barnetts98126 ай бұрын

    I have an SPS Remington rifle, it doesn't have a true Hogue stock, it's empty composite and can twist with light hand strength. Changed mine out, helped 150%

  • @masone4589
    @masone45896 ай бұрын

    There is no reason to buy a new Remington right now. I wouldn’t trust them to water my plants while I was out of town

  • @mikewest712

    @mikewest712

    6 ай бұрын

    I have seen videos of new Remingtons with the new tolerances. Too many other rifle to consider, Ruger has definitely taken their spot with the American.

  • @chaseacklam6174

    @chaseacklam6174

    Ай бұрын

    You're completely irrational. Brand new leadership and retooling every manufacturing plant isn't a reason to try new Remington? Those are the most significant changes that can be made in a firearms manufacturer.

  • @BabaBlueJay
    @BabaBlueJay6 ай бұрын

    What a wealth of knowledge to learn from. Fantastic content 😁

  • @JamesJones-cx5pk
    @JamesJones-cx5pk6 ай бұрын

    I bought a Marlin XS7 .308 about 20 years ago. It has the barreI nut, the floating bolt-head and accu trigger from Savage and pillar beaded. $300. I cut the barrel off to 19'. I filled the butt stock with expanding foam and glass bedded and floated the barrel. It's a sweet shooter. 👍

  • @squez861

    @squez861

    6 ай бұрын

    bought my wife one for 400 with a hawke scope on it and it shoots cloverleaf groups at 100 with core lokts and american whitetail hornadys. bargain moa to say the least

  • @nathanhickey2430

    @nathanhickey2430

    6 ай бұрын

    Wasn't it built by Howa ?

  • @sergeantdwz5783

    @sergeantdwz5783

    6 ай бұрын

    19 feet is a long barrel lol

  • @JamesJones-cx5pk

    @JamesJones-cx5pk

    6 ай бұрын

    @@nathanhickey2430 They were made by Marlin in Connecticut.

  • @tracker208

    @tracker208

    6 ай бұрын

    I had one in 243Win, bedded, barrel lapped, 3-9 scope and was a tack driver...sold it to a friend for her son's deer rifle. Hope he has it a long time. I took a dozen Pronghorn doe with it too.

  • @adaleparker1956
    @adaleparker19566 ай бұрын

    I love the Tikka I have 3 of them and the action is as smooth as butter. Accuracy is great for a hunting rifle.

  • @aethertech
    @aethertech6 ай бұрын

    I think the Savage Axis II should have been included in the budget rifle roundup for 308. With the one caveat that the oem polymere/plastic stock is to flimsy and should be repalced ($150 ish). You can often find the Axis II in 308 for under $400 easily.

  • @bernzie717

    @bernzie717

    6 ай бұрын

    In canada they were 400$ now it’s up to 650$ for axis !!!

  • @Kman31ca

    @Kman31ca

    6 ай бұрын

    @@bernzie717 Remember under our last PM when our dollar was on par with the American dollar for a few years. Now 1$ Can, is worth 0.75$ USD... Miss those days.

  • @erroneous6947

    @erroneous6947

    6 ай бұрын

    I had one with a wood stock and a scope cost me 400$ from the store. That was five or so years ago. Great value though.

  • @Leif1963

    @Leif1963

    6 ай бұрын

    If you are shooting an axis II and hate the flex stock like I idd. Stiffen it up with some expanding foam. Be careful to get the right kind so as not to inject more than the void can hold. I drilled a small hole in the comb down by the butt and put the foam straw in- slowly backing it out as the void filled. Filled the grip void with some two part epoxy. The stock is stiffer, with no wiggle and doesn't sound like a drum if it gets slapped by a branch. Cost less than $25 and adds no significant weight.

  • @aethertech

    @aethertech

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Leif1963 interesting fix, I'll have to think about that. Its mostly the foreend of the stock that needs fixing though.

  • @fenwelder2474
    @fenwelder24746 ай бұрын

    Love Ron doing the "Price is right" Rifle modeling especially barrel length.😄

  • @chancelavin2493
    @chancelavin24936 ай бұрын

    Great video series! i really appreciate these!

  • @BornAgain2019
    @BornAgain20196 ай бұрын

    I mentioned last evening that I had a B14 in 6.5 Creed and a PA10 in 308 with the 18" bbl and was pleased with both. I also have a Ruger American in 308 that shoots MOA with many different loads. Great value.

  • @sneakinguponit

    @sneakinguponit

    6 ай бұрын

    How’s the magazine in the Ruger?

  • @BornAgain2019

    @BornAgain2019

    6 ай бұрын

    @@sneakinguponit it's a cheap plastic rotary mag. With that being said it has functioned adequately at the range and in the field. Would I want to go to war with it. That's another story. But it is a budget rifle.

  • @sneakinguponit

    @sneakinguponit

    6 ай бұрын

    @@BornAgain2019 I’m familiar with the magazine. Just seeing about other’s opinions. Mine is unreliable after stripping the first round. I wish there was an alternative. Thinking about ditching the rifle because of it.

  • @BornAgain2019

    @BornAgain2019

    6 ай бұрын

    @@sneakinguponit Magpul replacement stock with AICS magazines?

  • @sneakinguponit

    @sneakinguponit

    6 ай бұрын

    @@BornAgain2019 I’ve thought about modding to use AICS mags. That’s probably the route I will go. These guns are decent shooters. Hard to let them go.

  • @NelsonAdvisors
    @NelsonAdvisors6 ай бұрын

    The Tikka T3X still the king of sub $1000 rifles, one of the smoothest actions on the market, shoots sub MOA and it comes in a bunch of configurations. The biggest issue that I see is the lack of threaded barrels. I have a Superlight in 7mm-08 that is an absolute tack driver!

  • @johnisabeth2504

    @johnisabeth2504

    6 ай бұрын

    I love tikkka's. Been a fan for a long time. I do however hate the mag. Not comfortable to carry the way it sticks out. Which is why I changed to sauer xt 100, being cheaper, as accurate, faster cycling action, 3 position safety and flush 5 shot mag. Lol took a lot of thought and agonizing before I took the plunge. Don't regret it.

  • @murhapuro86

    @murhapuro86

    6 ай бұрын

    I think it's some marketing/importing policy , because all Tikka's sold in Finland are threaded

  • @jonfrost3878

    @jonfrost3878

    4 ай бұрын

    Bergara 308 is a good rifle

  • @Jon-us1bx

    @Jon-us1bx

    3 ай бұрын

    In many European countries, suppressors are allowed or even mandated. In north america they are only allowed in certain places and usually only after getting a special permit.@@murhapuro86

  • @lanejohnson7656

    @lanejohnson7656

    2 ай бұрын

    I’ve owned a Tikka. Yes the action is smoother than a Savage or Ruger the Tikka I had was in an equally chitty stock.. The TIKKA trigger is better than Ruger, but can’t really say the same for savage. The smooth action of the Tikka is its only advantage in my opinion because I have Rugers and Savages sling just as good of groups. For the same money as a Tikka you can buy a Ruger or Savage and throw it in a decent stock or either buy a scope or be $100,s ahead into a scope.. I’m not that much of an action snob to warrant spending $100’s if not double the money for a smoother action and have a comparable accuracy.. But then again I’m just a hunter.

  • @Michael_Rega
    @Michael_Rega6 ай бұрын

    My t3 out of the box was .52 moa w/ 5 rd. I think with the really good elevation he had it was a shooter and wind issue.

  • @StuninRub

    @StuninRub

    6 ай бұрын

    100% a shooter issue. This guy is a terrible shot, you can watch his older videos, you could give him a custom benchrest rifle and he would still not group below 1 moa.

  • @benwinstanley101

    @benwinstanley101

    6 ай бұрын

    Tika simple

  • @camonly849

    @camonly849

    5 ай бұрын

    I thought the groups were that good as well. It did look like shooter error. Not trying to talk down, I'm not amazing either, but feel the guns had more in them with the same ammo.

  • @222andyburrows
    @222andyburrows6 ай бұрын

    As I'm sure you know Ron, those Tikkas are built to such close tolerances you can get prefit barrels and stay in headspace if you wanted to swap out.

  • @johnl5974
    @johnl59746 ай бұрын

    Very enjoyable presentation, the back and forth. Just like when I shoot with a friend.

  • @sparky_-mf2cs
    @sparky_-mf2cs6 ай бұрын

    Give it another year or so and ron spoomer will be hunting all his game with a 308 😂

  • @davidmackee8575
    @davidmackee85756 ай бұрын

    Great video Ron like the comparison thing you you have going there between the rifles its fair because its same ammo in them all 👍👍

  • @lmbear
    @lmbear6 ай бұрын

    List price quoted on that Tikka was wrong. Keeping in mind, these are "budget" rifles. I see them for less than $800.00. The other rifles tested can't compare.

  • @mikekempin7917
    @mikekempin79176 ай бұрын

    Would have been interesting to see the barrel twist rates. Ive found 1:12, 1:11, and 1:10 for 308 bolt action hunting rifles. Browning introduced a new short barrel 308 hells canyon with 1:10 twist this year which has my attention. The X bolt and AB3 have 1:12 twist. I guess 180 grain and below wouldn't really matter but interesting to see if it's correlated to anything in your test

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes65076 ай бұрын

    Great video,.. honest too, which is what I do appreciate. I couldn't help but think that here in Canada, a Tikka would never be thought of as a "budget rifle" My next rifle will be ( hopefully ) a Tikka CTR,... I just have to build up the piggy bank a little more.

  • @michaelgray2571
    @michaelgray25716 ай бұрын

    I have a stevens model 200 in 308. It has been a good one! All of my buddies have tried to buy it from me over the years.

  • @sloth_e
    @sloth_e6 ай бұрын

    I lived in finland for a year and now find it funny to hear people say teeka and sayko. I was on a few farms for my time there and talked about hunting and rifles more than we hunted, but ive heard both names said in thier native tongue 1000s of times. Although i found coming home to Australia that people here are starting to say sahko which is closer but still not there. I get funny looks and "corrected" when i say them like a fin would 😂.

  • @renegadegreg6428
    @renegadegreg64286 ай бұрын

    Maybe at the end of this you could talk about the scopes you were using. Love this context.

  • @myrthjt
    @myrthjt6 ай бұрын

    Ron, great video. I bought my wife her first hunting rifle just a bit over a month ago. Tikka T3X walnut in 6.5 Creedmoor. I love my 308's, a Browning Lever Rifle and a Henry single shot, but she wanted something a little softer on the shoulder. Beautiful rifle for the money, easily shoots 3 hole clover leafs touching at 100 yards with Barnes 120 grain TTSX hand loads. Factory of the same is only a little bit larger group. Still under .5 MOA. I would love to see you redo these with some quality mono copper ammo!

  • @chrispike8879
    @chrispike88796 ай бұрын

    My ruger american predator 308 18" is a tack driver.

  • @jdrollason
    @jdrollason6 ай бұрын

    My RAP 308 shorty is very accurate. Threaded barrel with a decent trigger makes for a really good time

  • @sammartinez8084
    @sammartinez80842 ай бұрын

    Good show and thanks for the info 👍👍👍👍👍😄

  • @daviddavey1727
    @daviddavey17276 ай бұрын

    Bought an new Remington model 788 in .308 back in the early 80s for just under. $150. Most accurate Rifle I own!

  • @jeffbuskirk9371

    @jeffbuskirk9371

    6 ай бұрын

    I had one, drove tacks with Winchester 150 grain silver tips. Just couldn’t take the rattling clip

  • @daviddavey1727

    @daviddavey1727

    6 ай бұрын

    @@jeffbuskirk9371 Easy fix, and I actually preferred the detachable box for quick loading.

  • @Scumfrog74
    @Scumfrog746 ай бұрын

    Well Ron, thank you for this review. I am looking for a new left handed Whitetail rifle and I’m from Pennsylvania and tight woods, and I can’t see spending $1000 when that $500 Ruger American varment comes in left handed which I need and was darn accurate love your reviews keep up the great content and keep it coming.

  • @KrKr_FL
    @KrKr_FL6 ай бұрын

    Great info, really helpful. Like the Fn video ppl.

  • @arthurshingler2025
    @arthurshingler20256 ай бұрын

    Nice maple tree in the background, BTW!

  • @wessmith4776
    @wessmith47766 ай бұрын

    My Savage Axis 308 is a tact driver I performed a little trigger work and topped with A Vortex Strike Eagle scope.

  • @jasonbyassee7541
    @jasonbyassee75416 ай бұрын

    I laughed out loud when you said special purpose. I haven’t thought about that movie in awhile. 🤪

  • @crazyeyes1533
    @crazyeyes15335 ай бұрын

    I purchased a tikka 308 in the CTR model / version and I'm so happy with it!

  • @DeadMonkey16
    @DeadMonkey165 ай бұрын

    One of the best true budget bolt action 308 rifles is the T/C compass 308 at $399 currently (i got it on sale sub $300 a few years ago). 22in floating AND threaded barrel, 1:12 twist, 5R rifling, adjustable 1 stage trigger, 60 degree bolt lift for better scope clearance, 3 lug bolt, and 3 position safety. 1 moa out of the box. Wish i bought more than one back then!

  • @benjaminbradley3009
    @benjaminbradley30096 ай бұрын

    Ive got the Ruger American standard, with the longer barrel. It's sub moa and smooth! It's my go to hunting rifle.

  • @7.62x51mm

    @7.62x51mm

    5 ай бұрын

    Same thing here!

  • @GlennHa
    @GlennHa6 ай бұрын

    We've pretty much settled on Howa rifles for my two sons and myself. We have several in multiple calibers including 308, 30-06, and 6.5 Creedmoor. They are plenty accurate for the price, all have very good triggers. The ammo has a lot to do with accuracy. We were shooting "Brand F" 308 factory ammo and got a 5-inch pattern at 100 yds, at first we though the rifle or scope was bad. Next trip to the range we used handholds, a decent charge of IMR 3031 (less than max) behind a 168-gr Hornady BTHP Match bullet and got under 1-inch at 100 yds. Also got under 1-inch using Hornady 165-gr SST bullets. "Reloads Rule" and we take little special care in making them up. Howa and Hornady make a great combination.

  • @10-4CodyWade
    @10-4CodyWade6 ай бұрын

    I got a good chuckle out of your comment about the special purpose. That movie is The Jerk with Steve Martin. I will never look at a Remington SPS the same again!

  • @Wildwestwrangler
    @Wildwestwrangler5 ай бұрын

    Bought my Ruger American 308 for 375 OTD. It shoots Remington corelokt 150gr best. Consistently it's under an inch with that load, but the best group I've measured is 5/8ths of an inch, but I tried several others and they ranged from 1 to 1.5 inches. Hornady whitetail was my worst at 1.49 inches.

  • @11ccom1
    @11ccom16 ай бұрын

    Learned a lot about 308. Thanks

  • @combatcurtful
    @combatcurtful6 ай бұрын

    I did a load workup for a buddy of mine for his dpms LR308 and it was one-holing 3 shots at 100 yards with several different loads. We had a 5 shot froup with IMR 4064 and 150gr acubonds almost a quarter inch.

  • @jasonlopez4855

    @jasonlopez4855

    6 ай бұрын

    DPMS LR-308 likes the 165gr to 180gr one moa rifle but the barrel is stamped 7.62x51 and the lower receiver has 308win and I've seen more like that. I just shoot 308win.

  • @combatcurtful

    @combatcurtful

    6 ай бұрын

    @jasonlopez4855 the 308 has higher pressure than it's nato equivalent

  • @TNBikers63
    @TNBikers636 ай бұрын

    This series is great!

  • @05Hogsrule
    @05Hogsrule6 ай бұрын

    Hi Ron. Have you ever done a segment on the Winchester 1908, Model 1907 Rifle? If you have, i cant find it, but i thought it would be an interesting one for you to do; the cartridge and the history seems legendary. Thank you in-advance.

  • @sylviajones3355
    @sylviajones33556 ай бұрын

    I don't even know if the Mauser is on this video yet, but they need to bring back the old controlled feed action.

  • @reynaldogonzalez6071

    @reynaldogonzalez6071

    6 ай бұрын

    get a Winchester!

  • @jeepjeep4921

    @jeepjeep4921

    3 ай бұрын

    Winchester model 70, new ones from Portugal are as fine as my pre 64’s, maybe better.

  • @awsomedude12345678
    @awsomedude123456786 ай бұрын

    My tikka t3x in 22-250 shoots 1/4 moa groups. Action is like glass

  • @duanesamuelson2256
    @duanesamuelson22566 ай бұрын

    A long time ago had a sporterized mouser (7mm) that was full bedded..accuracy sucked (poi changed with the weather and each shot would string). Floated the barrel, weather quit changing the point of aim, quit stringing shots, but groups opened up to 3" or so. Put a shim at the end of the stock (piece of teflon or bakalite as i recall) and the groups settled down to between .75 to 1.25 moa at 100 depending on ammunition. 45 years ago sub moa was not common without work. The things which affect accuracy can be surprising.

  • @stinger4583
    @stinger45836 ай бұрын

    I've got a Stevens model 200, 22", sporter barrel in .308. I have it in a Coate Ultra Sniper stock. I have a rubber "barrel deresonator" on the barrel. It has a 1:10 twist. I load 168gn bullets and Varget powder. Makes a nice clover leaf at 100 yards.

  • @imru3533
    @imru35335 ай бұрын

    Love my Tikka T-Light's... My collection is 22-250, 7mm Rem Mag, 300WSM and 338... Everyone are extremely accurate!

  • @bneaclab1
    @bneaclab16 ай бұрын

    Gotta let those barrels cool down between groups.

  • @NickFrom1228
    @NickFrom12286 ай бұрын

    I'd really like to see the Weatherby Vanguard synthetic in this mix.

  • @johnnewcomb5162

    @johnnewcomb5162

    6 ай бұрын

    I got the Cabela's made real wood engraving stock model high gloss blueing barrel. That this is a tack driver with 165 grain ammo. You can still find them on GunBroker cheap sometimes new. The wood stock not the synthetic wood seems to be a better gun, barrel ,bolt all the way around and can be had cheap.

  • @keithruf-nu3gs
    @keithruf-nu3gs6 ай бұрын

    Im sure you know that when you change ammo especially with different powder that first shot is essentially a fouling shot that will definitely open up the group.

  • @jonathanmitchell3733
    @jonathanmitchell37336 ай бұрын

    You would like the Tikka with the Wood Stock better. The Flat bottom on the wood feels just a bit nicer in the hand. Going from a round fore-end to a flatter one for hunting takes some getting used to, but you really feel the advantage when you actually hunt with it. You just naturally keep it level.

  • @tombeyer375

    @tombeyer375

    5 ай бұрын

    Agree. Have an older Remington 700 ADL, wood, with the same kind of bottom, that gets wider at the bottom, that just sits there perfectly!!

  • @kylehorender2824
    @kylehorender28245 ай бұрын

    I have a tikka t3x lite in a 30-06 and right out of the box I shot 3/4” group after sighting it in. Since then I’ve shot even better groups. Love my tikka!

  • @johng6221
    @johng62214 ай бұрын

    Love your channel, thank you

  • @cbo1395
    @cbo13956 ай бұрын

    I would love to see his opinions on the CVA Cascade in .308. I have heard really good things for it being a "budget" rifle, unless that'll be in a different category.

  • @waynemensen4252
    @waynemensen42526 ай бұрын

    I have several Savage rifles. All of them shoot and function. I got a ruger american 223 amd it is a dandy also. I love the pre-threaded barrels. I don't shoot without a suppressor anymore.

  • @freedomlover425
    @freedomlover4256 ай бұрын

    The real winner here is the Hornady 150 load. Best group out of every rifle. Or, maybe we're seeing the effects of barrel heat.. one good group and then they open up.

  • @blackbirdpie217
    @blackbirdpie2176 ай бұрын

    I've heard great things about the CVA Scout, maybe next time, for a different chambering?

  • @rexhinlo3398
    @rexhinlo33986 ай бұрын

    The second and third rounds on the second load (Hornady Match), impacted on the same hole.

  • @daviddavey1727
    @daviddavey17275 ай бұрын

    I have an old Remington 788 in .308 Win. Considered the cheapo of it’s day at $142.00 in the early 1980’s, it turned out to be a tackdriver and still works great to this day. Taken more than a few deer with it.

  • @user-by2zl3vk5y

    @user-by2zl3vk5y

    4 ай бұрын

    Same here, picked up a marlin 30-30 some time ago 😊and certain that I put just as much meat on the table as your 308 and 06 😊❤

  • @TMFShooting
    @TMFShooting6 ай бұрын

    Great Video 💯 Thanks Ron💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

  • @QuincyCrawford-im4rz
    @QuincyCrawford-im4rz6 ай бұрын

    Have to keep the rifles more stable the front keeps jumping around every shot.Those light Seven pound rifles could use a hand on the handguard for more stability.

  • @TuyenQMai
    @TuyenQMai6 ай бұрын

    Great videos Ron. I am interested in getting a new riifle but i am perplex to pick between 6.5 prc or the old 7mm08 and 308. Can you do a video on that?

  • @stevennewman4778

    @stevennewman4778

    Ай бұрын

    Are you gonna be reloading? PRC using magnum large rifle primers has kept me from getting one. So that’s one thing to consider if you reload.

  • @guardianminifarm8005
    @guardianminifarm80056 ай бұрын

    Thank you all. I am a bit surprised the match offering isn't printing better in any of these rifles.

  • @brunoterlingen2203
    @brunoterlingen22036 ай бұрын

    PLEASE try a Howa, you will not be disappointed. Probably the most under rated rifle out there.

  • @jerrylong801
    @jerrylong8015 ай бұрын

    Luv my savage axis. Super accurate

  • @jisa5995
    @jisa59956 ай бұрын

    Great content 🎉

  • @johnbicknell8512
    @johnbicknell85123 ай бұрын

    My favorite is my remington 700 heavy barrel 308, 24 inch barrel . What a shooter .

  • @stainlessspartacus7699
    @stainlessspartacus76995 ай бұрын

    Id really like to see Ron's opinion of the CVA Cascade. From other channels I've seen talking about it, its about the same price as the ruger american with more features and still as accurate.

  • @martyphillips83
    @martyphillips836 ай бұрын

    The browning x-bolt is probably a fairer comparison to a Tikka. The Remington and Ruger are really more fairly compared to savage and howa.

  • @combatcurtful
    @combatcurtful6 ай бұрын

    Is it just me, or does a 10:00pm air time seem out of the norm?

  • @combatcurtful

    @combatcurtful

    6 ай бұрын

    I totally called it

  • @InTheYear

    @InTheYear

    6 ай бұрын

    An hour before Mr Who Tee Who ya silly fella!!!

  • @mncrawlerscompscale4631

    @mncrawlerscompscale4631

    6 ай бұрын

    7pm in Minnesota

  • @rom14141
    @rom141416 ай бұрын

    Too bad they don't make the Stevens 200 anymore. I paid less than $300 NIB .30-06 about 12 years ago (can't believe it's been that long ago) put a Nikon 3×9 w/BDC. I was out hunting elk and deer in NM for in the $400's. Had to debur the injection molded seams here and there, put a giant kick-eez sissy pad on it because it's so light and kicks above it's caliber. Heck, I even got a little range finder for free with my scope. Everything's still going strong and it's always shot dead-nutz...better than my ability. Can't believe we're talking "budget" rifles at the +/-$1000 MSRP range! (I'm officially an FOG after this statement😂) The other rifle I considered was a Weatherby Vanguard which I think they still make. Good video BTW

  • @dave9116
    @dave91166 ай бұрын

    I do like the 308. I have 4, my Tikka is a T3x Tact A1 so it would fit in with your heavy weight. It shoots sub MOA all day with my handloads using 175 gr SMK. As far as budget, my Ruger Predator 18" 308 shoots 125 gr TNT and 178 ELD-X handloads sub MOA all day as well and it also likes 150 gr Core-Lokt, pretty consistently sub MOA but not quite always. Hope when you take a second look you see the potential. I have a Vortex Razor LHT 3-15 sitting on top so I have a bit of an advantage over what you are shooting as well as a scope 3 times the value of the rifle. Great lighter weight hunting setup, but maybe not really budget.

  • @camonly849

    @camonly849

    5 ай бұрын

    Between my dad and I we have 4 tikkas as well. A stainless in .243, which shoots sub moa. Two of the UPR's (.308 and 6.5). And the tac a1 in 6.5. All shoot sub moa. I got some 130 and 140gr in 6.5 from berger. They make factory loads and in my upr first time I shot a .25" group at 100. I high recommend berger. Their hybrid bullets are one of, if not the best on the market. Very forgiving, good bc. Try running those through your tikka and see if you notice a difference.

  • @lanejohnson7656

    @lanejohnson7656

    2 ай бұрын

    I’ve owned a Tikka and currently own Savage and Ruger. The Tikka I had came in an equally chitty plastic stock and about the only advantage I would give it is the smoother action. The Savage and Ruger I have sling just as good as groups as the Tikka did. I don’t warrant a smoother action and comparable groups to be $100’s if not double the price. I can put a Savage or a Ruger in a better stock and be money ahead, something the Tikka needs as well in my experience. Or those $100’s will go quite a ways on a good optic. Tikka makes a nice rifle that’s for sure. However I don’t see the accuracy difference to warrant the much higher price.

  • @DullAntler
    @DullAntler6 ай бұрын

    Shoulder's getting hammered.

  • @davesparkz
    @davesparkz6 ай бұрын

    The first rifle I ever bought was a tikka t3 30.06 as my deer hunting rifle about 15 years ago. I still have it and it's my favourite rifle that I own. If I was starting out and had a tight budget and wanted something well built, accurate and reliable the gun I would go for would be a howa 1500.

  • @allenhunt9818

    @allenhunt9818

    5 ай бұрын

    I just bought a t3x lite in 30-06 about 3 weeks ago and bagged my first buck 2 weeks ago absolutely love it and love I was able to get it left hand glad to hear it stands up to the test of time hope all is well !

  • @bobtowncarguy82
    @bobtowncarguy824 ай бұрын

    Ive always shot savage rifles, had pretty good luck with accuracy. I will say the ammo wieght makes a huge difference. Ive had the best luck with the 165 grain. 150 was all over the place. The new Ruger American in 7 prc or 270 might be my new rifle. Never owned a 308 though and I always thought i should.

  • @jameseroh6544
    @jameseroh65446 ай бұрын

    I own a variety of bolt action rifles. Savage Axis 2, a couple of Ruger Americans, and a Tikka T3x Lite. But when it came to the .308, I did not buy budget or bolt action. I got a Desert Tech MDRXCOM with several barrel kits. It came with the .308 kit, and the others collect dust. I probably should get a budget rifle. When I got shooting with a few of my friends the MDRX is the "cheap" rifle in the group. But with most people I go shooting with, the rifles in this video are more common.

  • @Scott_Hauck
    @Scott_Hauck6 ай бұрын

    ill have to agree with some of the other comments out there. Would love to see a Savage in this line up.

  • @nekminet1315
    @nekminet13156 ай бұрын

    From my experience, when changing bullet types, a fowling shot is often required. I believe the different jacket material can often throw that first shot off.

  • @K-bob_45

    @K-bob_45

    6 ай бұрын

    My thoughts too. Changing ammo I’d fire a fouler or so. I know you need a fouler after pulling a bore snake

  • @Kingzall

    @Kingzall

    6 ай бұрын

    What is a fowling shot?

  • @heremyjogan

    @heremyjogan

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@Kingzallit's when you shoot at a bird

  • @mawill999

    @mawill999

    6 ай бұрын

    @@heremyjogan I thought it was an illegal shot

  • @malinkifox2011
    @malinkifox201113 күн бұрын

    As for Remington 700. I got the sps tactical and it came threaded. I got the ghillie green version

  • @StumpkillerCP
    @StumpkillerCP6 ай бұрын

    Great video . . . but you have not convinced me to trade-in my "old" Savage Model 11 Sporter weight. Three shot 100 yard groups I can hide with a quarter when I do my job. After that they start to open up; but it's a deer rifle so that's OK. But I forked out the coin for a 19 oz. Leupold VX-5HD FireDot 3-15x44mm FireDot Duplex (Bee's knees in early dawn and twilight). BDC dial instead of a "Christmas tree" reticle. I love the scope and it carries the rifle. A friend of me has the Tikka as you show (in 6.5 CM) and I watched him hit, not just move, two consecutive golfballs at 300 yards. If I lost my Savage in a boating accident I would look at one of those. The new Savages (Apex) don't call to me.

  • @markbucher7609
    @markbucher76095 ай бұрын

    I shoot a Tikka M55 Deluxe 308. I bought it in 1984 at the Rod and Gun Club at Rhein-Main AB, West Germany. I run Remington Core-Lokt 180's through it, am always sub MOA. The gun always has been more accurate than I'm capable of. If I do my part, the rifle's always done it's job.

  • @camonly849
    @camonly8495 ай бұрын

    Tikka is just so good. Used factory bergers I'm my tikka upr and held a .25" group. Insane!

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