I'm a 7mm08 guy. Everyone jumped on the 6.5 creedmoor wagon when the 7mm08 does the same thing with more energy and been doing it since 1980. Love your stuff Ron!

@205jab4

3 жыл бұрын

@Bill Madd lol. Im no B.C. specialist but I do shoot both or I did until my brother took over my 6.5cm and generally you shoot heavier projectiles with the 7mm08 and it generally does better. Dont get me wrong. You can get some 6.5cm loads to out preform some 7mm08 loads. Im just saying that everyone jumped on the 6.5 cm like it was doing something no other round could do with low recoil but yet the 7mm08 had been doing it. They both are excellent rounds its just a case of good marketing on hornady's part.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 205 Jab.

@demetriuscooksey7147

3 жыл бұрын

@@205jab4 Agreed. Some of the best rounds in history were just poorly marketed. (244 or 6mm Remington, 280 or 7mm Express Remington, 8mm Remington, 6.5 and 350 Remington Mag, 260 Rem... Wait a minute, I'm seeing a pattern here).

@205jab4

3 жыл бұрын

@@demetriuscooksey7147 🤣 yes Remington should have put a lil more money in the marketing for sure.

@andy347495

2 жыл бұрын

7.62 is bore size too. So they did the same with it as the other metric designated cartridges.

Due to my age and cancer my doctors recommended if I wanted to continue hunting. I back off on recoil. I have shot a .270 Win. With a 140gr. Accubond for 30+ years. After videos like this. I purchased a 7mm-08 shooting Barnes 120gr. Awesome 👏 killin anything I want in Texas including large Hogs!!!

@matthewknight1910

2 жыл бұрын

Best wishes for your fight with cancer 🙏 Happy hunting.

2 жыл бұрын

Keep it up man, best wishes

@sdriza

Жыл бұрын

Good luck my friend

@NotBOB-81

10 ай бұрын

Have a look at the 6.5 PRC. My Browning X-bolt with 140 pills kicks less than my 308. Has much better BC's and carries that energy out further than 7mm-08, and the longer higher BC bullets enable it to shoot much flatter than any 7mm-08 load. I have a 300 PRC and I'm picking up a 7mm PRC next week. If it's recoil you looking to decrease then look at these newer cartridges with the longer higher BC bullets.

@doubled6595

4 ай бұрын

How is the recoil on 7prc compared to you 6.5 prc? I took have to limit recoil due to blood thinners and wondering how tame (or not,) the 7mm prc will be compared to 7mm-08

All I can say is thank you for being so humble to the hunting world 👍

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ryan. Over the years I've learned that it's easier (and more accurate) to be humble than arrogant. We're all in this together and can learn from one another so long as we keep open minds and investigate new information. What disappoints me are the many folks who seem so eager to belittle others and start silly name-calling fights over information like this. I wonder how many new or potential shooters/hunters are spooked away by such vitriol?

@gregoryfilin8040

2 жыл бұрын

@@RonSpomerOutdoors very many that I've tried to bring in. It's a downright shame to the people who want to learn but find themselves getting belittled or degraded for not knowing. Your content is a lovely change of my pace to my usual content. Thank you kindly for it.

Ron I agree, the .280 remington should be more popular than what it is. It is a fantastic cartridge, capable of sub minute accuracy, shoots flatter than a 30-06, and is absolutely devastating on whitetail deer. My father's Japanese browning A-bolt chambered in .280 remington is his favorite rifle.

I've had my 7x57 from when I was 16 years old. M98 action, can't beat the strength of that one. Thanks for the story.

@gregnoel5366

3 жыл бұрын

Sweet! Well done.

@sinisterthoughts2896

Жыл бұрын

A severely underrated cartridge in this age. Funny enough, it is quite comparable to 6.5 Creedmoor.

@johnkelly9246

Жыл бұрын

P.O. Ackley improved it. he stated that it and the 257 Roberts improved were 2 of his best.

Ron is on a roll and we love it.

@lifted_above

3 жыл бұрын

He fills the role pretty well.

@antycyponek2706

3 жыл бұрын

perhaps you mean "roll" ?

@freeandcriticalthinker4431

2 жыл бұрын

Yea he is on a ROLL alright. It’s amazing how much crap grammar/spelling you see on KZread. Shows us how poor our education system is in this nation.

Once I stumbled upon 7mm-08, that was it for me. I all but retired my 30-06. When I started taking whitetails at deer camp, I won over a few converts.

I think the 7mm rem mag is the perfect all rounder cartridge for deer. It has manageable recoil, decent barrel life, and will shoot a 162gr bullet at 3000-3100fps with very flat trajectory. Once you step up to the 30 cals to get the same trajectory, you need to use 200+Gr bullets with way more powder behind them and you’re talking huge recoil.

After years of hunting a wide variety big game with various cartridges, Jack O'Connor, Jim Carmichael, and Craig Boddington, all arrived at the same conclusion. The 7X57 is clearly one of the most efficient cartridges ever invented.

The 7mm is fabulous in every way. I have a 7mm-08, .280 Remington, and 7 mag.

After watching this video I understand why Lazzeroni Arms called their proprietary .284 cartridge the 7.21 Firebird. Thanks Ron!

Tried several and shot the magnums for years. I finally settled on the 7mm/08. Killed everything without the recoil and usually in a lighter rifle. Favorite caliber in my old age.

@terryhenry8243

2 жыл бұрын

@@LivingBetterOutdoors Works great!! Just keep your ranges reasonable. I believe its a good 500yd. Cartridge, and thats a long poke in most anyone's book.

@curte6062

2 жыл бұрын

much like the 7 mm 08 Recoil is exactly why I switched to the 243 years ago. Been deer hunting for almost 45 years have killed 100s of deer with everything from 222 up to 300 Winchester magnum. I decided I don't like recoil anymore so several years ago I started hunting with a 243 because my son and my wife both hunt with that caliber make buying ammo much easier.

@davidpallin772

2 жыл бұрын

@@curte6062 Curt, May I ask what state you hunt deer in ? I have always felt the .243 Winchester in marginal at best on whitetail deer but I know my assessment on the .243 is wrong. I just feel undergunned using it for deer hunting.

@creightonsmith5333

2 жыл бұрын

In terms of efficiency, the 7x57 and 7mm-08 are impossible to beat.

@ericbarkman9810

2 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t agree more

Great informative video. My old man, God rest his soul, gifted me his 7mm mag winchester model 70 when I started hunting as a junior. He always said with this gun you will never need any other to hunt with, one of the best hard hitting fast and flat shooting cartridges out there.

I have a 7mm08 ,280 REM and 7mm REM mag, love them all, great caliber.

I was disappointed that the "280 Ross" did not get a proper nod. It was a full 50 years ahead of most rivals, being introduced in 1906.

@delbutler885

6 ай бұрын

My Grandpa had a 280 Ross. The action was a bit different. If I remember it was a straight pull with a rotary bolt. I can't remember every thing about it I haven't seen it in 50 years

7x57

I'll stay with my 7mm rem mag.

@rogerparker3558

3 жыл бұрын

Will kill anything, in North America Black Bear Grizzly Bear Brown Bear Polar Bear, and Moose, recomend that you use 175 grain Nosler Parttion Bullet. Its a BAD BOY.

@rogerparker3558

3 жыл бұрын

@Jon Smith Would a 7 mm rem mag loaded with 175 grain nosler parttion Bullets take a large Grizzly Bear.

@MuskratOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

@@rogerparker3558 It sure as Hell would.

@rogerparker3558

3 жыл бұрын

@Jon Smith Thank you Sir, I have herd that it will take any Big Game in North America, and parts of Africa too.

@calvinmilner7103

3 жыл бұрын

Hey y'all have been In great need for ammo and can't find a good reliable place to order for one just visit eliteammoasernal.com and get your different ammo of different calibers.... hurry now and dont miss it got mine already.

I like just listening to these videos. It reminds me of family discussions about rifles

When ever im feeling stressed with the world, I like to sit with a brew and just listen to Ron Spomer.

I Sure am glad that I found this channel! RON IS A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE! To bad I can't give Ron 2 thumbs up...

@RonSpomerOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that.

@d.j.9961

2 жыл бұрын

You definitely earn & deserve every accolade! I love your content & learning from you! Thank you!!!

My dad got me a 7mm08 rifle for my first hunting rifle, and 9 years later I still love it! It's a great all around cartridge for my PA deer hunting needs!

I love the 7mm-08 for mule deer and elk.

@dlc1119

3 жыл бұрын

Knocks whitetails down flat too ;-)

@dlc1119

3 жыл бұрын

@@ronaldm6009 Depends on the bullet and distance. I'd happily shoot anything with it at 'moderate' range. Magnums are of course better 100 + yards further out.

@dlc1119

3 жыл бұрын

@@ronaldm6009 I'm shopping for a Tikka in 7-08 (own an older Rem. Model 7 in that caliber) and plan to work up a load with Hornady 150 grain ELD-X's. Should be deadly as far as I can hit.

@NickFrom1228

3 жыл бұрын

7-08 is an underrated cartridge. Its no barn burner but it has a lot of good things going for it.

@dlc1119

3 жыл бұрын

@@NickFrom1228 I've shot a few deer with it, flattens them just fine.

I believe the 7mm Remington was more or less a commercial version of the 7 x 61 Sharpe and Hart.... both on the ,374 H&H case head..... The S&H round was usually combined with the Schultz and Larsen model 65 rifle....a brute strong rear locker .... long time ago... :-)

The best 7mm is the one I can get ammo for.😉

@jimpeschke3435

3 жыл бұрын

In other words, none of them? :)

@OldSchoolParatrooper

3 жыл бұрын

Amen

@ughighspeedug

3 жыл бұрын

The 7mm wsm I always see.....only 7mm I see in stores for ammo is then wsm

@brians2733

3 жыл бұрын

7x64 is probably the only one you could find right now, mainly because the European manufacturers (Sellier & Bellot, Prvi Partizan) are producing stock normally (as opposed to US manufacturers who are shifting production to premium lines to exploit the current shortage).

@johnkertzman3223

3 жыл бұрын

Just bought a new Weatherby Weathermark 7 mm wby Magnum and haven't been able to find ammo anywhere for it!

I've always loved the 7x57. Never shot any of the other 7mms but I do love that 7x57.

@demetriuscooksey7147

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with 2,700 fps

@charlessexton1719

3 жыл бұрын

@@demetriuscooksey7147 agreed sir. And where I hint. It's actually considered what some would call over kill. 45 yard kill zone.

@8d4o0c4

3 жыл бұрын

Over here (Europe) the 7x57 is not hamstrung by the North American pressure specs, and it really gives the round some more oomph. Great cartridge, one of my favorites!

@mwmcbroom

3 жыл бұрын

@@8d4o0c4 Agree about the sorry state of 7x57 factory ammo here in the states. But if you handload for it, you've got a very effective caliber. 2800 fps easily with 140 grain pills. And excellent long-range results with the heavier high-BC bullets that can be found now.

@robertsims8776

3 жыл бұрын

The 7x57 has become my favorite deer hunting cartridge - had 2 Mauser 98 sporters built in that chambering.

The .284 WInchester was created for the Model 88 lever rifle I think.... and that's a rifle that I wish we could still buy.

Gotta say, if I wanted a primary whitetail rifle, I think I'd choose the 7mm-08.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

That's long been my ideal for an average whitetail rifle.

@jimpeschke3435

3 жыл бұрын

@@RonSpomerOutdoors Thanks Ron, now I feel vindicated. Still, I'm a bear hunter, so .338 Federal for me!

@edwardwells5864

3 жыл бұрын

For an all around cartridge where efficientcy and performance is King, I would have a hard time finding a better choice than 7mm-08. It gives up very precious little to my 7mm Rem Mag as a game getter at prudent hunting ranges. I can only think of a hand full of shots I have taken beyond 400 yards in the last 40 years on game animals!

@calvinmilner7103

3 жыл бұрын

Hey y'all have been In great need for ammo and can't find a good reliable place to order for one just visit eliteammoasernal.com and get your different ammo of different calibers.... hurry now and dont miss it got mine already.

@jimpeschke3435

3 жыл бұрын

@@calvinmilner7103 Yeah sure. A no-name store that wants me to pay in Bitcoin but won't accept credit cards. Hard pass.

My Kimber 84M Montana in 7mm-08 has turned out to be my most used hunting rifle. Deer, bear and 40 pound Catskill mountain coyote all fall to it with one shot. Using Barnes TTSX bullets, I wouldn't hesitate to hunt Elk or Moose with it. My other centerfire rifles have become neglected since I acquired it.

Yes Ron I picked up A 7MM-08 in the Thompson Center Compass with 5R rifling 's nice little gun to be packing around for hunting. I also picked up some 308 military match grade brass and being a hand loader I converted it to 7MM-08.

You need to include the 7x57r and 7x65r - the rimmed versions of the 7x57 and 7x64. Used in a number of European made single shots, break actions and combination guns. 7x64 and 7x65r very popular in Europe.

@skookum_87

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I shoot them both. fantastic

@aithra123

3 жыл бұрын

7x33

@tinepremrl

3 жыл бұрын

I have 7x65R/12 Brno. My first and most loved rifle. From fox season I carry only my Czech sweethart. ;) Bought X-bolt 308 only because of target plinking and training.

@lenzadlberger

3 жыл бұрын

Suhler Drilling Rifle 1962 year of production from my Grandpa (He past away before i was born) was my first Rifle for Hunting here in Germany 7x57R 16/65 22.Hornet plug in Barrel on the second shot Barrel / Zeiss 3-12x56 Scope i have it till today my every Day Rifle for Hunting here in Germany from Fox (when near with Shotgun when more away with 22 Hornet) and then with the 7x57R from 10kg Fawn to 120kg Wildboar to 150kg Redstag this Rifle works and never left me alone the 7x57R is my Favorit for Hunting ok for driven Hunts i have a straightpull Rifle in 308 cause the Rifle i wanted is not cambered with 7x57 Mauser but for the rest the Drilling of my Grandpa is on my Side

I've owned a Ruger 77 target rifle in the .280 Remington caliber since 1987 and I've always loved the way it shoots. I load/reload my ammo for all my pistol and rifle calibers and I had the barrel replaced on the .280 Rem 8 years ago, the rifle will out-last me.

Love the 7x57. By far my favorite cartridge

@GMdrivingMOPARguy

3 жыл бұрын

@John Beige I love the round but have had bad luck in finding a good gun chambered in it. Always have shot out barrels and worn headspace. I'm planning on getting a Rem 700 receiver and building a custom rifle in it

@calvinmilner7103

3 жыл бұрын

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@perryparsons9960

3 жыл бұрын

@@GMdrivingMOPARguy Look into the Swedish Mausers, make an excellent hunting rifle in 7x57 Mauser to this day. Bring your checkbook, while amazingly well built, are a bit pricey.

My favorite 7s are the 7x57mm, 7mm/08 and the 280 Rem. I fell in love with the 280 Rem back when it was known as the 7mm. Remington Express.

My first rifle was a Model 93 Spanish Mauser in 7x57mm, my favorite round was Winchester Western 7x57mm, 175 grain soft point.

I love my 7x61 S&H. First marketed in 1953, in my opinion, it’s the most efficient 7mm magnum HUNTING cartridge to this day based on case size, geometry and modern powders. Ease of feeding/cycling defines it. It’s belted and drives tacks if chambered in a high quality rifle.

@jackrobinson8945

Жыл бұрын

My wife and I both have rifles in this great cartridge. Moose, elk and deer have all fallen in front of our rifles. It's big brothers 308NM and 358 are excellent also.

@michaelshuey1614

Жыл бұрын

@@jackrobinson8945 Fantastic! I inherited my fathers 308 Norma Magnum chambered in a 1977 Remington 700 ADL with a 23.5” Douglas Premium barrel. The gunsmith told Dad that if he was going to install the barrel it would be 23.5” long or he could have someone else do it. To this day it drives tacks using 180 grain bullets of any make.

Love my 7 saum

I love the 7mm Rem Mag! Its the first centerfire I got when I started shooting as a teen. I think it provides a great balance of power, flat trajectory and recoil all in on package! There are better cartridges out there but in my opinion few give as good a balance in performance at an economical price or gun selection.

@charlesmullins3238

Жыл бұрын

My first high power rifle too..700 rem from wal mart dad bought for Christmas for just over $400 I think round 2000..bout to start customizing it as I’ve wanted too for yrs just never got to it..

@Clevelandsteamer324

8 ай бұрын

7mm rem mag is outstanding on Colorado wide open hunting

I think there is a reason there is a silver case in there and rightfully so! 😉 7 rem mag has been a staple in the shooting world for a long time!

I love my 7mm ultra magnum! Bought her as soon as they hit the shelf back in the early 2000s.She has crushed many,many whitetails...with authority! P.s. I'm shooting 140gr@3450 fps

Traditionally, whenever i hear someone mention 7mm they're referring to 7mm Rem Mag. Sort of like calling any kind of soda Coke here in the south :-)

@johnturner5893

3 жыл бұрын

Kleenex?

@TommyboyGTP

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnturner5893 ???

@johnturner5893

3 жыл бұрын

@@TommyboyGTP when were're looking for a "tissue" we ask for a 'Kleenex" At least here in Canada..That's all. But the same way a 7mm is a 7mm RM, unless specified differently. ..

@TommyboyGTP

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnturner5893 Yes, i understand now. I've heard that term as well

@edwardwells5864

3 жыл бұрын

LOL true that!

I wanted to add, the 7mm Mauser in a Spanish Mauser 93, was my first high powered center fired rifle. My first purchase of a modern rifle was a Remington, Model 788, Left handed Bolt Action Rifle, in .308Win. I still own that today. I used that rifle in many a deer hunt. Art

I love my 280 and 7mm Rem mag both! Depends on my mood on which I carry.

@winstonjones7519

3 жыл бұрын

Yep.

@14goldmedals

3 жыл бұрын

T Lloyd I've got them both too. Both Browning A-Bolt stainless stalkers LH with B.O.S.S.

@devinb3397

3 жыл бұрын

I got a 270win and the 7mm rem mag, I like the 7mm more but I know the 270 will kill just as well if I make my placement count

I have hunted deer and hogs in Oklahoma, Kansas, Texas, and Missouri with my 125 year old 7mm Mauser and model 110 7mm-08. They have never let me down. Those two rifles have always got the job done, quickly and humanly. I have been laughed at before at some hunting camps for my choice of hunting rifles. If you listen to some TV experts, TV shows, the manufacturer, the arm chair experts at the gun shows etc.... Apparently you can't do any hunting in the lower 48 unless you have a 6 pound, plastic stock, Magnum short action rifle design to shoot for 1200 yards. It simply isn't true. Ron Spomer is the real deal. When he goes right back to the 7x57 and 7mm-08, that's all you truly need with SHOOTING SKILLS for a well placed shot.

@oldschooldude8370

3 жыл бұрын

Proper bullet for the task at hand coincides with shot placement. Expansion and penetration play different roles at different distances. Velocity is energy but it boils down to what you're hunting.

I love the combination of these two cartridges: 7mm-08 Rem & 7mm Rem Mag.

@shobudski6776

3 жыл бұрын

So do I, that would be the .280 Rem.

@406MountainMan

3 жыл бұрын

@@shobudski6776 that's not what I meant. I like having both those options for different scenarios.

@calvinmilner7103

3 жыл бұрын

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@tylarhaugan7908

2 жыл бұрын

Love 7mm08 with 160 swift aframe

I love 7mm. My personal favorite is 7mm-08

At one time I owned nine rifles from a 30-30 on up to a 7-mm magnum. My favorite was my 280 Remington. That is one heck of a great rifle with less recoil than the 30-06 or the 308; and of course less recoil than the 7 mm Magnum. The best shot I ever made was with my 270 Browning on a mule deer, creeping up a hill 450 pieces away from me. One shot through the heart. That's because I had my rifle sighted in properly and I got a little bit lucky. That thing went down like Frasier when he fought George Foreman. Lol. Thanks for your input I'll be watching a lot of your videos. I also am looking at the 7 mm '08. as I'm older now I like a shorter rifle with less recoil. Recoil was never an issue with me but when we get older our muscles become smaller and our gut bigger. Haha

That 7mmSTW with a 162gr. A-Max has been a deadly combo for me, regardless whether it's short or long range.

@Shifty6BR

3 жыл бұрын

My buddy has an STW chambered around a Borden action. He's running 180 bergers around 3100fps iirc. It is an absolute hammer.

I love my 280 rem in a Remington 700 bdl. I use it for everything I hunt now out to 400 yards. 140 gr accubond nosler trophy will drop deer and antelope pigs and exotics usually where they stand and 160 partition hand load for elk. Never had elk go more than 20 yards with that bullet inside 400 yards.

7-08 all day long, or in a vintage rifle the marvelous 7x57.

@thews9237

3 жыл бұрын

Looking to get my first bolt action hunting rifle. Liking the 7-08. Live in Cali for deer and boar 🐗. (Edit for spelling) Good cartridge? Im new to all this.

@woodstockrifles8215

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!!

@Plainsimple67

3 жыл бұрын

ABSOLUTELY, BUT I JUST ACQUIERED A .284 WINCHESTER CUSTOM BUILT REMINGTON 700 USED, I AM HAVING SECOND THOUGHTS NOW ABOUT THE 7MM-08 AND THE 7×57 MAUSER!!🤷‍♂️

@gregorywalker4997

3 жыл бұрын

@@Plainsimple67 never owned a 284, but if you can get the brass and reload to dial in the velocity so you don't blow up the game inside a hundred yards ( or maybe select a heavier slower bullet for all ranges) you have an interesting and viable cartridge if the barrel is not too worn from sizzling loads. with that 700 action, shouldn't be hard to fit a new barrel if that one has been shot out. sounds like a beauty!

@Plainsimple67

3 жыл бұрын

@@gregorywalker4997 I THINK WHOEVER OWNED IT, HAD IT CUSTOM MADE AND WENT ON A FEW HUNTS AND THAT'S IT!!, CAME WITH A VX 3 LEOPOLD ON IT AS WELL. IF I HAVE TO HAVE IT MADE TODAY IT WILL BE AROUND $2 TO 3K MINIMUM!! I HAD A LOT OF .284 BRASS FROM THE PAST THAT I USED TO OPEN THE NECKS UP TO FIRE OUT OF MY K-31 SWISS RIFLES WHEN 7.5X55 BRASS WASN'T AVAILABLE, THAT WAS ANOTHER MOTIVATION BEHIND BUYING IT, OTHER THEN THEY GAVE IT AWAY TO ME FOR $500.00 OUT THE DOOR!! YOU CAN ALWAYS PLAY WITH LOADS ABD BULLET TYPES BASED ON THE HUNT YOU ARE GOING TO.

7mm Mauser is one of my favorites. Probably second in my book to only the 30-06. Love my 06's.

This guy is the Bob Ross of Ammo. He has a such a soothing voice. Both informative and relaxing at the same time.

A Contender Carbine in 7-30 Waters is a very nice combination. And in a single shot you can use spitzers.

@denismguitar1552

3 жыл бұрын

.30-30 Win ballistics. Good shot placement, works fine.

Great videos!!! Fan of the 7mm’s. Another factor to consider is recoil and feel the 280 and 280 AI are the best of both worlds in regards to recoil and down range ballistics. Not to far below the 7mm mag with significant less recoil with the same weight projectile. In my opinion, these are two under rated hunting calibers.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris.

@fedup3582

6 ай бұрын

One additional advantage of the 280 and 280 AI, that seldom seems to get mentioned, is that along with the good ballistic performance with manageable recoil, you also have increased magazine capacity, particularly over the magnum or short far cartridges. And to a lesser extent, they tend to feed slightly better.

Bought a Remington 788 in 1980 , 7mm08 , it's still the most accurate rifle I own and has taken , Moose Elk , mulie's , whitetails , bears , antelope etc. etc. I've seen thousands of head of big game killed as an outfitter here in Saskatchewan since 1984 , seen game killed with every caliber imaginable ! The only 7mm that wounded lot's of deer was the 7mm Remington mag and the STW ! I had a hunter with an STW , a barrel long enough to be half way there , he shot a big non typical whitetail directly below his tree stand between the shoulder blades ......took 5 day's to find it still alive being eaten by ravens with a basket ball size hole but never made it to any vitals ! Told all my hunter's to never use ballistic tip bullets at my camp any longer ! 7mm short mag never got any love but it is the sexiest looking 7mm to me !

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Frangible bullet at high MV can be a problem, indeed.

@johnwilburn8319

2 ай бұрын

Ballistic Tips,what a joke.If they would have used a Partition that bad boy would have dropped on the spot!

My vote is for the 280 AI. Lack of brass availability notwithstanding. Great video, as usual!

@RonSpomerOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Good choice! Nosler usually has 280 AI brass and/or loaded cartridges.

7mm-08. Best by far!!!

@TexanUSMC8089

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on where you're hunting and what you're hunting. Not the best for hunting elk in Montana, or pronghorn in Wyoming. 7-08 is a great cartridge for most deer hunters in the eastern US though. Not the best choice for hunting moose in Maine. You could do any of these things, but the 7 rem mag would be a much better choice, with a 160gr bullet, for hunting elk.

@MarriedFucker

3 жыл бұрын

@@TexanUSMC8089 yes, no doubt the 7mm REM MAG is better, but the 7mm-08 is lighter on the shoulder and better for an all around. In fact my 12 year old son shot a 116 pound pig last year with his single shot CVA Hunter in 7mm-08. He used a 129 grain Hornady SST with an 18 inch suppressed barrel and it dropped like a rock!

@JAKDRZR

3 жыл бұрын

@@TexanUSMC8089 inside 300 yards any animal you mentioned wouldn’t tell the difference between the 7 mag and the 7-08. But stretch out the distance and the mag wins every time. But as you stated it all depends on where you hunt. Im personally a huge fan of the 280ai. Hand loaded with 165gr bullet and a 26” barrel you can get 3000fps pretty easy. Way less kick and powder then the 7 mag.

For my hunting area and animals that I hunt... 7x64 Brenneke

Thanks for being patient with folks that don't have your knowledge.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

I just hope they return the favor. We're all ignorant in some subjects.

You're an American gem, Ron. Thanks for everything you do.

Another good video, Ron. Thanks! :) I shoot a stutzen 7x57, but if i hunted in the mountains more, a kipplauff in 7x64 or 7x65r would probably be the dream. Short, light and elegant guns.

I love 7mm-08 for hunting just about anything that moves in the mid-west. Effectiveness on your target is obviously essential, and 7mm-08 leaves me wanting for nothing, but I like something that also happens to be a joy to shoot. And if money and availability were of no consequence right now, I would go to the range, or hunt what I could just to feel the pleasure of squeezing off a few rounds of "little 7" every day.

@Jefestephens

2 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love mine. And I think it will be a good first “big boy” gun for my future son since it has nearly the same recoil as a 243 or something similar

@hammerheadms

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jefestephens definitely. My kids are 8 and 6 and are a bit too small yet for a full power cartridge (length of pull notwithstanding), and I think they could probably easily manage the recoil of 120gr. loads in just a few years. Of course that means I would have to hand over MY favorite rifle for the kids on hunting trips. Probably when the time comes they will learn to shoot with little 7 and we can look into something that suits them a bit better later. I have been giving strong consideration to 6.5CM and 350 Legend for a kid's size load with good effectiveness, high availability and value, and an appropriate Midwestern cartridge.

@brianwalker1933

2 жыл бұрын

In my younger days as a professional shooter/trapper in Australia, l used “all sorts” of calibres, yet my “all time favourite” was the 7mm-08. Obviously l had smaller calibres for small game and for my biggest calibre that l found as more than adequate for bigger game, such as Water Buffaloes up in the “Top End of Australia, my .303 British done the job. Bigger calibres were used with great success too but the recoil was a bit of a problem for me, especially when you are shooting dozens in one day alone. The .303 British was good enough for the job.. and it was so much cheaper to reload for as well.

I knew a gentleman who had a custom rifle made for his wife in 7MM Benchrest based upon the Remington benchrest pistol. . His wife got her Mule deer with that rifle every year. He let me shoot it at the range and talk about a sweet rifle! I would have to say that this gun was amazing. Shooting 140 grain bullets at 2700+ ft/sec. it became the equal of a 7x57 but in a rifle that weighed less than 5 Lbs clean and 5.7 Lbs with a Leupold 2.5- 7 scope and with a bolt that cycled in less than an inch and a half. And boy, did it shoot! I watched him shoot 7 -5 shot groups at 100 yards with the WORST one being .61 of an inch and most less than bullet diameter. All this and it barely caressed your shoulder! Unfortunately, a Turd, drunk out of his mind on the wrong side of the freeway, took the lives of this wonderful man, his sweet wife and unborn child. The drunk did 2 years for this, I have trouble forgiving this man. That's my problem....Maybe someday.

The 7x57mm Mauser was a good cartridge at the time and some modern rifles are chambered with that caliber made to handle higher pressure for modern loads. Remington also necked the 7x57mm case down to 6mm when they developed the 6mm Remington in the mid or late 1950s, it was originally called the .244 Remington. I have a Remington 700 hunting rifle in the 6mm Rem and it's a flat shooter.

I sure do like my rem 7mm mag anyway keep up the great work Ron.

7mm Remington mag is always served me well

I own a 7x57R kombi rifle for roe deer. Old but gold for short range hunting

Love the subject matter and especially the relaxed delivery. Wonderful.

Used the.270 for 40 years. Great cartridge. Got a.280 REM in Browning X bolt Hunter 10 years ago. Love it. But may yet go to the.280 Ackley

I picked up 7/30 waters dies the other day in an assortment at auction. Very interested in that caliber now. Also got dies for 280 Remington in that haul... I fear I'm not done paying for that purchase. 😉

Great video Ron! Thanks.

That is a magnificent briefing. So much to learn in 31 minutes. Thank You!

It's funny once I moved off the 30 cals I went with 7mm08, 7mm rem mag, 28 nos in that order. Loving my 28 nos with a 175 grain accubond its just been brilliant. With a 24" barrel (anda 2-3" long brake) I'm getting 3150 FPS MV. Lastly the 7mm SAUM is a highly overlooked round in my opinion. Another good one Ron!

Been using a 7mm stw for years it's a awesome caliber

@johnnyblade3335

3 жыл бұрын

Yep 2 of them myself. Great round, long live the Stw!

@HELLBILLYx88

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnnyblade3335 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@robertbirtciel1408

3 жыл бұрын

I've been using my STW for a long time and I think it's a really cool caliber thanks for sharing I was starting to believe that was the only one I had in STW

@HaydenIngram

2 жыл бұрын

Have one in in Ruger No.1 love it.

@HELLBILLYx88

2 жыл бұрын

@@HaydenIngram cool mine is also a Ruger #1 I have the grey laminate stock with stainless barrel

Wow . Loved this video

Thank you Ron.

I got 1500 plus shots through my old M77 Ruger in 7mm Remington Magnum before it was worn out. My load was IMR 4350 and 160 grain bullet.

@johnnash5118

3 жыл бұрын

Did you let your barrel cool-to-touch between shots?

My personal favorite out of that list is the 7mm WSM. The 28 is fun (I was pushing 195 Berger EOL’s at 3200 fps out of a 28” barrel), but the 7mm WSM is light recoiling, and I’m pushing 190 Berger’s at a nice mellow 2900 fps (in a 22” barrel) with 15gr less powder than the 195’s in the 28 Nosler. I just wish someone made good brass for the WSM. Sounds like Sherman’s mega brass will be usable for the WSM though!

@billbennett9537

Жыл бұрын

The 7wsm is an absolutely great cartridge that gets almost no attention.

Mr. Spomer usually gives very balanced views and reviews, and this is another great one. Thanks Mr. Spomer.

A pleasure as always!

Excellent video Ron! I’ve been shooting a Model 700 in 7mm Remington Mag over 40 years. I feel it’s the best all around cartridge which will effectively take any big game animal in the world. Plus ammo is readily available everywhere at reasonable prices. My new 7mm Rem. Mag. rifle is a Tikka T3X Veil Lite with fluted barrel, fluted bolt and muzzle brake. It is super light and also super accurate! Easy to carry all day in the mountains and deadly at long ranges.

284 Winchester, 7mm Remington magnum and the 7mm ultra mag. My favorite.

@randomidiot8142

3 жыл бұрын

I have a .284 and it will eventually be rebarreled 7 Mauser. .284 is good except it's an in between round for american 2.8 and 3.3" standard actions, and I have an arisaka that feeds mausers and has a 3" mag box.

Very informative Ron thank you

Great video. Alot of choices.

My first bolt action and the first cartridge I handloaded for was a model 70 chambered in 7mm rem mag. Also had an old tang safety Ruger 77 in 7x57.

@johnnash5118

3 жыл бұрын

I bought my Tang Safety in ‘83 in .308; a few years ago I rebarreled with a custom PacNor polygonal in 260AI. Best fitting rifle of them all for me, and having that safety switch right under your thumb can’t be beat, no reaching or unnatural flip movements, just “click.”

Great video! Everybody has their favorite and I’ve always been partial to the 7mm family. Either way, Ron’s videos are the best.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the vote on confidence, John.

Great stuff Ron. Thank you! Impressed you had some of the obscure ones like 7-30 waters and the LRM.

After shooting a hard punching 7rem mag, was looking for similar ballistics in a milder recoil. After talking to a good friend and ACCURATE rifle builder Wayne Chapman, he suggested building me a 280 Remington on a new 270 Winchester he had just sold me. Mated to a Shilen barrel, the new build can easily group 3 shots in 3/8 in. Great hunting rig! Great info, Ron and always enjoy your hunting stories. Well written and light humor make for great reads! Stay well, and good hunting.

Love the big sevens , favorite load is 120 grain tsx at 3300 it really shoots flat and hits with plenty of power way past most shooters range

7mm Express 280 is hard to beat, low recoil very accurate with my reloads

@nmelkhunter1

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome cartridge with the capability of outpacing the 270 Win and the 30-06 with proper barrel length and twist.

Love my.284 Savage lever , and my 7/57 model 70 !

Thank You Ron

Ron I live in Alberta Canada, I been shooting a 280 Remington since is was 23 years old, I am now 56. Have taken moose, mule deer, black bear and whitetail deer. The 280 Remington has never failed me it is an amazing cartridge. I have also owned a 300 wsm and a 308 but have had better results with my 280.

Ron!! You keep these videos up and the sky is the limit. I’m not a dummy on ballistics but you always farther my knowledge! Plus, you covered the 7mm08 and I bought one. I love the .270 Winchester and wanted one for years but I have 2 girl’s so I went with the 08 in a Winchester featherweight. I’ll get my .270 though. Thank you for the video’s!

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rudy.

Hi Ron, A big thanks for making another fine video. Seeing the 7mm title, it piqued my interest. They all work, and it is a good way to pass one’s time as gun cranks with discussion of the merits of cartridge design, historical perspective and influence, and performance characteristics of each. I can tell, based on your previous 7MM Remington Magnum video as a great argument to the most balance and performance in the 7MM spectrum and this video, you are very fond of the round...been shooting one since the mid 70’s myself, and purchased my first in 1980 in a Ruger 77R Tang. I also use and hunt with a semi-custom 7MM RUM at 7 lbs 14 oz all up (no brake) and a .280 A.I. Each cartridge is tailored to the rifle and all have their place in a given rifle platform. If one were to throw all the info into a computer, the 7MM Weatherby just might get the nod for the most performance in initial velocity with manageable recoil to the average shooter in a moderate weight hunting rifle. No doubt, the great denominator in all cartridges is the bullet, as you always point out. Thanks Ron... great job...keep the videos a ‘comin ! Paul in North Central MINNESOTA.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Paul.

Great video! My two favorites the 7mm-08 and 7mm rem mag! Keep the videos coming!!!

7mm08 all the way

Thank you for another great and informative video Ron. I have been a 7mm fan for many years. Thank you for your high praise of the 284 Win. I have a 284 Win, 7mm Rem Mag and a 7mm STW. Love the 284 Win. To me it is the ultimate all around cartridge.

@RonSpomerOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Gordon.

How about the 7mm Sharps and Heart? Until recently it was the #1 custom build cartridge in North America.

Thank you for the best explanation of the 7MM.

Very enjoyable video.