Advice to new players: Play whoever you like. Any and all characters will work fine for the game. When people say "best" or "worst" characters this is in regards to Abyss meta. If you're new or don't want to do abyss then you're pretty much free to invest in anyone. The main game is pretty easy and allows you to use anyone. Spiral abyss will usually lock you into meta characters. Don't get caught up in popular opinions or meta talk, play the game however you like and build whoever you want. You will naturally pull and build different characters over time and you can replace teams to fit your needs so don't worry. People even play Genshin with starter characters so remember to play ur faves and have fun on your journey

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Agreed! This video was just to inform who can give more value to your account as time goes by. But it doesn't mean you are forced to pull them! Like I said in the video, pull for who you want even if they are not on the list! I want everyone to have fun with their favorite characters. This video is just information regarding who will be more valuable to your account with time

@putent9623

7 ай бұрын

Some people enjoy meta. Including new players. When i was new i liked meta.

@RealLordVoldemort

7 ай бұрын

@@putent9623 yes, this is true. It's why people should play who they like :)

@frontified

7 ай бұрын

me personally i want to pull atleast 4 of the most meta supports (like the top 5 in this video) and after getting them ill pull just about anyone i want those supports will make literally any team for anyone cracked, so i can play good teams with my favourite characters

@saahil0855

7 ай бұрын

Yes best advise ever for new players....!!!! don't get baited into pulling these characters all at once, if u r new and just started the game and u r F2P then there is no way in hell u r getting all these characters quickly even welkin won't be able to help u very much, just wait and take it slow and eventually u will get the characters that r meta and help u with clearing the abyss with 36 stars. I know skipping new characters to get these old awesome and meta defining characters can be hard but that is what gacha is all about so don't let urself get baited into it have patience that's it.

getting Neuvillette and kazuha have definitely been my best pull decisions 😍

Pulling for Zhongli and Neuvi is the best decision I made with my constant red pings and skill issues 😂

I feel like it is better to get 5 star flexible support that can fit into many team comp than dps, as dps character can be getting powercrept by future characters. For dps, go for any character you like

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Agreed!! That's why from 6th to 1st place is all supports/sub-dps

@georgesr8979

7 ай бұрын

I disagree, I actually think the opposite, with 4 star supports like Bennet, Sucrose, Kuki, Yao Yao, etc who are just as good as some 5 star supports. I think a 5 star DPS is more important, I mean look at Keqing, Hutao, or even Tartaglia for example, they’re old characters and still relevant in meta today with Furina and dendro. With some exceptions like Klee most 5 star DPS won’t get outdated and will be relevant for a long time. I mean if you tell me Neuvillete will be power crept in the future… Mihoyo needs to break the game to do that lol

@user-bl7rd4tv4b

6 ай бұрын

neuvilette will never get powercrept

One thing Yelan is more flexible than Furina p.s Furina need a healer to maximize her fan stack so for the new player i recommended Yelan more than Furina

@Ms-dk8mf

6 ай бұрын

Furina can be nice for new players too, she can heal she can be a sub dps and she can help you with exploration.

@oliverrk

6 ай бұрын

@@Ms-dk8mf they can end their own character if she play sub dps that why I don't think she is needed for the new acct but having her in little late would be great

@oliverrk

6 ай бұрын

@@Ms-dk8mf but in the end they can pull whatever they want

@oliverrk

6 ай бұрын

@@Ms-dk8mf for exploration,in term of dps I think Yelan excel it

@Kmn483

6 ай бұрын

I pulled Yelan and have trouble using her. Both my main dps are charge attack users and my back up is aggravate. Furina fits with the majority of main dps, as long as you have a healer. Yelan only fits into hydro reaction teams that use autos.

The best advice is get Nahida , xq, kuki, nuevilette, furina * Nahida, xq, kuki (warheads at your disposal) * Nuevilette & furina ( Hydro dragon goes brrrr🗿) The power to annihilate Tevyat at your fingertips

Well when you are new player there a talk about that " When you have character that you like or you don't know what kind of charater you should build, just play Archon and they will do the rest"

Totally agree with the ranking. Also, great video man! You just got a new subscriber!

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!!!! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

I've been using Kazuha in the abyss ever since I've got him, and the CC is very valuable in the abyss.

great video :) you're very kind! I think this is a great place to start! Very good advice.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much!! I'm glad you liked the video! Keep an eye out for the 4* version next week 👀😉

as a player with not so good luck on my side, you can took my advice since I'm also f2p and this advice is the one that good even tho c0, and by no chance I can top up seeing that my luck can bring me to be mona irl XDD 1. archons, seriously, all archons are useful, you can't go wrong with them, even venti is still by far the best black hole and f2p friendly, you can also make him sub dps too :D 2. neuvillette, so far he's the only chara that we can aced in floor 12 on abyss even with cheap build and craftable weapon, you won't regret pulling him, the downside is his best arte can be unlock if you went to fountaine, I guess many charas also like that 3. alhaitham, boy can make easy build and f2p friendly, he also not too hard and his mechanic is unique and pretty good at damage 4. ayaka, she's the best in frozen team, f2p friendly too, even the craftable weapon in inazuma can do if you don't have any other, mine does blackliff tho XD 5. kazuha, like seriously, one of the best support in the game, gogogaga with em and voila your team can killing fast 6. yelan, she's doing great as both sub dps and dps, she's strong and her build is also f2p friendly, can fitting in many comp just like kazuha, won't regret pulled her up this is a basic 5 limited star that I think will definitely helping in all team, the rest can be obtained as you wish, what mine did is the most important one, since if you at least have this with your best build, you can aced abyss at least up to 11 with full stars, this video's choice is also good tbh, all in all it's up to which chara that we wanted and how lucky we can get, even up to this point I failed to get furina, lose rate in that, but I definitely will get her in her rerun XDD

ask if I have any 5-star characters from the Fontaine region still no problem clearing abyss floor 11/12? the list of characters I don't have owned my account such as Lyney Neuvillette Furina Wriothesley. but I have past region characters like Hyperbloom National Freeze on my account.

The only one i disagree with is Zhongli over kokomi. Because Kokomi is as good as a comfort character as him and can also the totm set. You don't have to use clam on her. And she's way more versatile obviously. I think Zhongli and Kokomi should switch places.

@rax6667

7 ай бұрын

It's about buff's and resistance to interruption that matter these coming abyss & moreover the enemies with huge res to some elemental types as well as the enemies becoming more agressive patch by patch , & zhongli being a a character who can provide both of that is good of choice to put him over kokomi, like said kokomi is not a bad character but there's better characters like xq & yelan, as for why zhongli is mostly placed over kokomi is of the dps oriented teams like wanderer, nuevilette, xiao, etc teams who he is appreciated for that resistance to interruption he provide's more than that of heals & that tiny bit of 20% all elemental shred. Moreover we are talking about zhongli here just skill & say goodbye to damage

@Konomidebanshouwashikisesur

7 ай бұрын

@@rax6667 you can't choose the abyss you want just to favour him lol. His res shred is good but Kokomi provides more things overall then he does. Sure you don't have IR but that's only useful for a few bosses who are very aggressive. Also Kokomi is can be placed in Bloom/hyperbloom/Taser or even Vape comps in which she can comfortably clear the abyss. If you're good at dodging then he just falls off in value. You'll always get a better result most of the time if you replace him from his team which is also a problem with Kokomi but since she can abuse Clam and Hydro she isn't as replaceable as him. This abyss is specific is very good for Kokomi more then Zhongli. She's hydro and can literally make you immortal. Insanely good for the first chamber. More over she can use TTDS for support or PA or Inazuma and Sumeru catalyst for support. I say this as someone who has Zhongli and doesn't have Kokomi. I pulled for him just because I'm an Archon collecter.

@adeniyimarvellous8259

7 ай бұрын

Zhongli would always be over Kokomi every day every time, Zhongli forms a core part of the top dps team, is it neuvillette, Zhongli is his best option, is it hutao, Zhongli is the best option, is it lyney or wrioteshley or alhaitham or Yae, or Xiao or Ganyu etc he works and forms a core part of every strong dps in the game except for Ayaka,Cyno,childe or ayato In recent abyss, we see that interruption to resistance is still more valuable than single target healing, if you want to enjoy and play all fointaine dps optimally, you need Zhongli, Kokomi primarily works in Ayaka freeze and nilou bloom teams, and all the things you mentioned about using ttds and totm is only useful for Ayaka, she doesnt work well with hutao, Xiao, every single fointaine dps don’t need her, so I don’t see her above Zhongli

@adeniyimarvellous8259

7 ай бұрын

@@Konomidebanshouwashikisesurenemies in the abyss like concencrated beasts, recent fatui agents, those enemies from the chasm, need interruption to resistance to counter them, a good shield is even good against the coppelia boss, so that she doesn’t stagger you around, and a lot of dps lack interruption to resistance or a good defense that is why Zhongli is more preferred than Kokomi, without Zhongli, lyney is kinda meh, same goes for hutao and other Fontaine dpses, even neuvillette needs that shield at c0, so that his combos don’t get interrupted

@adeniyimarvellous8259

7 ай бұрын

And there are just overall better hydro appliers than her, Furina is better and also has aoe, while providing a long buff and higher damage to the team

I have two account 2 c0 hu taos 2 staff of homas... lavawalkers set is actually really good on her with the right stats. And can be a great double geo and 1 anemo driver

I have arlecchino, raiden and kazuha only. Please suggest some teams to build around raiden and arle for abyss( i have the necessary 4 stars for it like xingqiu, xiangling, Bennett, sucrose). Also should i wait for zhongli in 5.0 or 5.1 or should i pull for furina now?? It is a tough decision 😢

@D1FENIX

Ай бұрын

For Arlecchino you can make mono Pyro (arlecchino / Kazuha / Bennett / Xiangling), vape (Arlecchino / Xingqiu or Candace C6 / Bennett / Kazuha or Sucrose) For Raiden you can make National team (Raiden / Bennett / Xingqiu and Xiangling) or hyperbloom (Raiden / Yao Yao or Kirara / Dendro MC and Xingqiu or any hydro applicator) or maybe a Aggravate team (Raiden / Sucrose or Kazuha / Dendro Mc or Kirara and Fischl) For more teams and understandments on how to play with them, you can check my guides about this characters In terms of pull priority, Furina is way more valueble than Zhongli, and in your case, she could be a replacement for Xingqiu in one of your teams, allowing him to be run on the other half. But you need to remember she needs a healer to stack her buffs. If you seem to be struggling with survivability, Zhongli might be the best choice for you because of his strongs shields. Its up to what you need the most atm, but remember, fun > meta. Pull for who you like over meta, because it will be your love for the characters that will keep you on the game

pulling for zhongli and neuvilette was the best decision ever! the game has become much easier honestly!

I took a 6 months pause of genshin now I am back, the meta has changed so much, thank you for your video very valuable

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Welcome back!!!! Glad you liked it!!!

100% agreed looking forward to 4 star rankings

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Coming next week 😌

strongly agree,my first 5 star was ayaka i adore her and play her everyday,but after i got nahida kazu and raiden the game suddenly provide me with so much teams to do and experiment,abyss is not an obstacle i often manage to clear it (not full stars yet but i still need to work on some artifacts and probably my lazyness and not trying more than 3 4 times is the reason),all regions are at 100% and i enjoy the game becouse after ar56 the game become so much easy to play with those arcons,recently got furina and now will focus on my c2 raiden,wish all of your viewers happy earlys in pulls and stay happy,oh and dont bully paimon too much^^

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

I wish you luck on your C2 Raiden as well my friend ☺️!! Hope you get what you are looking for!!!

hmm out of this list i only have kazuha(was my first pull as im a 3.6 joiner) and yelan. want to pull for some more dps's so will try to get ayaka and raiden in 4.3 and maybe yoimiya as i like her design. nahida and furina are probaby the only 2 supports i still want and maybe zhongli somtime in the future.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Glad to have aboard on this game! I hope you get all the characters you want!!!!

Well, my account literally changed in clearing Abyss after I pulled Yelan and Kokomo.

Hi! I'm a f2p player that started 3 months ago and I'm unsure who to pick between Furina and Ayaka. I don't think I can get 6 5* in the next 7 months - assuming they all run in this period. I really want Raiden, Kazuha, Nahida and Yelan since they seem to be the best for their elements. If I get Furina, then I don't have any dps. Also I won't have kokomi or jean. If I get Ayaka, not only I'll be missing the best buffer in the game, but seems that Ayaka is mostly used in freeze/monocryo and has 7% abyss usage. My goal is to do well in the abyss. I still at floor 4-3 because of the advice to not build too many chars at once. I decided to try to build only top tier chars. So I only built Bennet, Xiangling, Mona and Kaeya (as I had no chars early on). I got Diluc but I didn't build him because it seemed uncool to have 3pyro on the team :) It abyss doable without any top tier dps? Would leveling normal attacks on Yelan or Raiden and having them on field be enough? All those would be c0 without fancy weapons.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Hello!!!! First of all welcome aboard this game and I thank you so much for asking for help! Regarding your first question about who to pick. In the early game a DPS can be more valuable because in the beginning it's hard to deal good DMG. Buffers/supports like furina are also good to have in the beginning but they become more important as you progress to the game. Furina besides being a buffer, actually does good DMG with her pets, but never at the same level as a DPS. So, in early game I would advise Ayaka for you. Furina will eventually get more reruns than Ayaka because archons seem to have reruns faster. And it doesn't matter if you see low usage on characters on the abyss. Sometimes abyss doesn't help some characters in general but most of the times it's because people are hyped with new characters so they decide to use them. And about your second question, yes! It's totally possible to clear the abyss with characters that are not even in the meta. I know people who finish abyss with 4* for example. Leveling up the basics on Yelan will be valuable only if you plan on doing her charge atk a lot. And with Raiden you don't need to because the attacks she does on her burst are considered burst DMG. It's only worth it on Raiden if you somehow are trying a meme physical build (which is not that viable). Thank you so much for asking, I will always be glad to help. I hope I've managed to give you some light on the best decision for you!

@RealLordVoldemort

7 ай бұрын

Realistically, as a new player you should just invest in whoever you like. In terms of "good" or "bad " characters this is in terms of Meta and only really applies to spiral abyss which is more of an end game first. All the characters will do fine for the main game with some investment. This is your game and you should play who you like. Only focus on Meta if you want to do spiral abyss which honestly isn't necessary and is optional

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@RealLordVoldemort exactly! Well said my friend!

@qwertysysysyysysysyzz

7 ай бұрын

Dont level yelan or raidens NA talent, that's a waste of valuable resources

@mathpi2211

7 ай бұрын

It's hard to make that pick for someone else. If you go for Furina, you could always build your free copy of Barbara as a healer if needed. Or you combine her with Bennett, although it will be harder to maximise your fanfare stacks with him, especially at C0. Of course you can also wait for a Baizhu and/or Kokomi rerun to give her that healing boost you need. She works with Noelle as well, so you will find a spot for Furina. Your best Furina weapon is probably a Favonius sword or the free Fleuve Cendre Ferryman (fishing weapon from Fontaine). If you go for Ayaka, you can use Mona, Kaeya, and any anemo character (Lynette is a free option, Kazuha and Venti are the best options) for a team. Sure, you can improve the team with premium characters, but the core is functional. You can even get a bit of healing if you give Mona a Prototype Amber. You have a strong budget version of her team already. Plus, you can craft a fine sword for her: Amenoma Kageuchi. If you pick Furina, she about 2 cracked units worth of buffing, but requires an extra slot for a healer (Prototype Amber does not heal enough). If that healer does more for the team than just healing, your DPS will go up. If not, you could replace her with Xingqiu/Yelan and a buffer for a more well-rounded team. Furina does make your team more squishy as well, so keep that in mind. Furina is amazing, but you don't have to fear that your account is doomed with only Yelan and Xingqiu for hydro, especially since you have Mona as well. Do remember to pick up a Xingqiu from the starglitter shop or the Lantern Rite though, regardless of whether you end up wishing for Furina or not. If you pick Ayaka, you are committing to a cryo DPS for a freeze team (or mono cryo). Know that you can clear the abyss without ever touching a cryo character, and that bosses cannot be frozen (which reduces your crit rate from blizzard strayer). If knowing that does not scare you away from Ayaka, she will not disappoint. There are tricks to do the abyss without top tier DPS characters. Note that I haven't beaten floor 12 yet, but what I'm about to say should be accurate. One thing you can do is run hyperbloom on the floor with fewer enemies. Hyperbloom can be potent enough to clear any single to few target content, even if your team consists of 4 star characters. For the other side there are often options such as Bennett, Xiangling, an anemo character (preferably Sucrose or Kazuha, Venti works too), and a hydro character. to Your damage is dealt through the vaporize reaction combined with swirls. An all 4 star option is Xingqiu, Xiangling, Bennett, Sucrose. Note that the elements that work well differ from abyss to abyss, so you can't always rely on your go to teams. That's why some elemental spread between hydro, dendro, electro, anemo, and pyro is key to success in this game. Note that Sucrose and/or Kazuha should be enough anemo for most players (Venti is an option too). Cryo can be a great sixth element for some content, but it is possible to skip it (from what I've heard). Geo and physical are an option as well, but there's no need for fomo if you build none throughout your Genshin career (other than maybe Zhonghli if you need a strong shielder).

Guys pls help, I am a new player started in mid November now AR 35 (really upset for missing such good banners like neuvillite). Got lucky and got furina in first 10 pulls, but on thr other hand I dont have a single healer except barbara😢. Now I am at 83 pity and was able to save 50 fates in the past 6 days. I am sure of going for raiden but a little skeptical seeing the comments about Ayaka .Pls advice should i just go for raiden and dave the primos for future banners or pull bothe ayaka and raiden.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

My personal advice, go for Raiden, save the rest. Barbara can work with furina so don't stress it too much. And since you are decided to go for Raiden, save the rest for other characters. New releases like Neuvillette or Wriothesley always get reruns before the end of the region.

@krrishraj8867

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX Thanks a lot was really confused, will skip Ayaka, mostly she will get her rerun in next year November December will pull then. Again thank you very much for helping out☺️

a lot of fontaine characters can also take honorable mentions / top 10 , even wriosthely ayaka is hard to recommand for new players espically for mobile

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Fontaine doesn't have that many 5* characters for now Lyney is focused for mono pyro teams, already keeping his potential around Bennett at least (for buff and heal). But you will also need a good shield, something a new player will have a hard time getting. Wriothesley is a character that I have on a new account that I created just to make sure I would get him, forcing me to use a f2p team. And I can say without any doubts that he is not good for F2P or new players. Unfortunately he is someone locked behind constellations (C1 mostly), and his f2p melt team is way harder to play. Making him already not a good pick for F2P or New player. And Furina and Neuvillete are on the list, and even tho Neuvillete is the best DPS on the game, a support like furina will be more valuable while you progress to the game because support will always be more valuable.

@yuvatejaanirudh8282

7 ай бұрын

Lol ayaka is easier and does better dmg than wriothesley

@nonamepasserbya6658

7 ай бұрын

Bad idea to suggest Furina early on when an account only has Barbara for healers. She is Abyss only/Veteran only

@yuvatejaanirudh8282

7 ай бұрын

@@nonamepasserbya6658 she is really very good in exploration No need of kaeya ice bridges No need to worry long range healing Her summons are strong enough to kill open world enemies(just summon them and keep dodging they will take care) And her summons also randomly hit boxes and solves sumeru & Inazuma puzzles She helps in solving Fontaine puzzles Don't underestimate her

@BellaenDuHljodhr

7 ай бұрын

Unless she runs with Charlotte on the banner...

IMO if you're a new player thinking who to get as 1st 5 star I would say Raiden, cause she opens up a lot of strong, easy to play and f2p friendly teams the comfort she gives is just too much. She's also easy to build early on compared to other meta picks since she's from Inazuma, Plus her Artifact Domain is the best domain you should farm early on after getting your NO and VV pieces so building her is also building her teammates like xingqui and xiangling. the 2nd one to get I would say is Kazuha or Yelan depends if you got Sucrose and built her. With Yelan you could run RaidenNational as 1st team and Sucrose Yelan fischl taser team as your 2nd. After that you could literally think who you want to build next go for Kazuha for a better overall anemo support or Nahida if you want to build dendro teams next. This is only my personal take on the best progression a new player could do to make a strong start while efficiently using your resources like your resins.

Kazuha as always been my favourite pull

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

He is funny to play with and extremely valuable. I wonder if Cloud retainer will also be like that 👀

Hey everyone, I'm F2P and I started almost 2 months ago and now I am AR39. Still no 5* yet but I'm waiting for Ayaka and Raidens rerun next patch. Any advice on which DPS to pick please 😊

@sonuyadav577_

7 ай бұрын

Go for raiden, ayaka needs premium team consisting all 5 star

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Raiden will be more valuable in the long run. Ayaka I would just recommend if you are lacking DMG. And with Ayaka you will be stuck to freeze teams. Raiden will be useful in a lot of scenarios

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@sonuyadav577_ it's her best, but she doesn't "needs" them. You can get away with a lot of 4* characters like Diona, Rosaria, Xingqiu, Sucrose and Lynette. And just like I said on the video, you can make her work just with the free characters the game gives you. It will not be her best team ofc, but for the early game it will do just fine.

@freddyman5726

7 ай бұрын

For new player imo raiden is better because she has variety of 4 star teams like National w/ xinqiu bennet xiangling (these three can be purchased on the shop) Hyperbloom w/ barbara dendro traveller collei (full free char) Aggravate w/ fischl lynette yao-yao (fischl on the shop, yao-yao free at version 4.4) Etc. And these teams isn't fixed, you can mixed and match with character you have. But i recommend you to see whose play style you prefer through trial characters, youtube guide, or abyss run and pull for whoever you like the most. Good luck 👍

@AH_125

7 ай бұрын

Ayaka is a little harder and you know but raiden is the best for f2p cuz she has best f2p weapon just by fishing best artifact set that can use for almost all characters emblem and best f2p team national the are all 4* and really easy to lvl up that all is imo ok if you love ayaka most pull for her

Should have included furina along with yelan. Cuz she not does almost equal to greater dmg than yelan but also buffs all ur team. Hu tao , xq , furina , jean teams clears faster than hu tao, xq , yelan , zhongli And also while using bursts or character skills yelan burst cant ve procced so we can get 5-6 sec dps loss every round. But furina summons attack automatically they dont need ca or na atks to proc. This enables her to be in xiao , keqing, nuevelette teams etc.. End of the day it all doesn't matters so enjoy yourselves ❤

100% agreed This is the best characters for F2P like me. I have the same list, I just have to get Neuvi, Alhaitham and Yelan and I’ll have them all

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

If you like them go for it!!! Wish you luck!!

for me 1. nahida 2. furina 3. yelan if ur new player and u see people say xingqiu is equivalent to yelan and yet u get her for free.. trust me xingqiu needs c6 to be even compared with yelan and yelan is super ez to build for new players just slap hp and give her fav

So uh...new players, as you can see on the list, only three are onfield dpses, most are sub-dpses This is a supports meta game, supports always have more value

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

THANK YOU SO MUCH! I respect everyone's opinions but some people don't understand the value of supports over DPS...

kokumi doesn't deserve that spot very much honestly she's still good but her new best team currently requires furina. she was bullied on release because she had no where to shine. her best team was sokukimon/soup which is a very hard and tight team to excute

thanks to ur advice, now i know what characters should i save for.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

No worries!!! Just remember, pull for you like and find fun!!

@clkjhgfdsa

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX i have a question, for f2p like me, is it worth it to c6 my favorite charac or i must build 2 teams for future abyss?

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@clkjhgfdsa focus on having at least 2 teams to easily clear the abyss. Then if you really want to make your favorite character feel free to. If I was a f2p I would never do it, because I prefer having a lot of characters instead of having 1 or 2 super broken. I will end up doing the abyss no matter what. So might as well have fun with a lot of different teams. But that's preferences Pull for who you like and if you dedicate enough on those characters you will do the abyss just fine!

Less than 1 mounth , i got xinqiu /xiangling and fishl (very lucky perma pull (20 pull) ans Noël baner ) so i just need one solid main dps now with good infuse , yae miko was an option but 4 star in banner are not good (i got yaoyao in festival lanterne, Xinjiang 😅...and ninwuang need some constellation to be fine to play , if i loose the 50/50 its dramatic.... I can't take that risk 😂.

My advice is : stay away from Ayaka as far as you can as a F2P. She is the highest investment character in the whole game and represents the second worst element

@ASvGR

7 ай бұрын

One of the best weapons for her is a 4*(and it's free)what u mean stay away

@unknownaccount7874

7 ай бұрын

@@ASvGRher teams probably

@ASvGR

7 ай бұрын

​​@@unknownaccount7874her teams can be f2p too ayaka xinq(mona if u somehow have her) sucrose/Lynette diona/layla

@kaltsit4539

7 ай бұрын

Her teams are not that expensive as you might think, i'm doing fine 36'ing the abyss with just Diona, Kazuha, Xingqiu lol and these characters are the one that you WILL have to get in ur account eventually, It's true that cryo is the second worst element in the game but the fact that she's still a top tier dps character despite having that element is just crazy, She shreds bosses like butter even with no reactions if there's a support that can apply consistent pyro status on the enemies for her burst to trigger a consistent melt reaction she would be alot more insane if only the other element is equally as good as Dendro and hydro... i despise how these 2 element are just completely on another level it's unbalanced and unfair

@SyrFlora

7 ай бұрын

Ayaka pretty fun to play.. but c0 on floor 12 abyss.. u will be struggle a bit to get full star clear . Depending on how strong ur artifact and .. support. Meta wise if u want full star clear abyss quickly as new player.. hyperbloom is the cheapest team. National team is also one of the team to consider as for the other side.. but if u get stonk hypercarry like Neuvillete.. u will be fine also. If hoyo keep buff HP mob in floor 12.. she will fall off but right now.. c0 she still doing fine. Also depending on enemy... dont put she against coppelia or copelius.. that boss got pretty high cyro and anemo res.

My current team is keqing, jean, furina and bennett. I will swap jean with nahida once i get her since i have guarentted pity and i got ayaka in her last rerun

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

I advise you on switching Bennet instead, and then you do a quick bloom team with Keqing, Nahida, Furina and Jean. Just my suggestion tho, play with who you like the most!

top 5 is really subjective. hard to say who's better because they are really strong. but i think nahida and furina is top 2 and 1. for me kazuha's worth slightly( i mean slightly) fell off after dendro was introduce. yes, support characters are reallt valuable but for me my top 4( not in particular order) are nahida yelan raiden and furina. i have them on c2 with r1 weapon except furina.

F2p plyers must have charecter - Zhongli Wanderer /xiao/xianyun Raiden Yelan Kazuha Or any good 5* dps

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Xiao and Wanderer are not worth it. I have played with both of them and Faruzan C6 makes a good difference, without her they are worse than the DPS I mentioned Xianyun is still impossible to say The rest of the list is acceptable

I think you forgot someone with a big hat...

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Klee is super cute but I don't think that's enough 🥺 And I have Scaramouche myself and he is nothing special hahah

@lisaextracool

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX i only got him cause he can fly and somehow became my main, probably gonna do that to nahida too since she can collect items immediately 🤣

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@lisaextracool I got wanderer at 20 putty without being guaranteed on his last rerun. And I mainly use him for exploration. But I will try him on abyss once I get my faruzan and Mika built since I'm going to use him with Furina, but if I don't like it I will just go the original wanderer build with Bennet Faruzan and Zhongli

@lisaextracool

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX i use wanderer with furina and it undoubtedly goes amazing, imo pyro and/or electro go really good with them

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@lisaextracool if I'm not mistaken his best team now is exactly the one I said: - Wanderer, Furina, Faruzan and Mika But I just don't know if I will like it because wanderer really needs a shield or else he is always getting interrupted hahaha. But I will try once I get those 2 leveled up and built. Mika is already in the work since I already have everything pre farmed for Navia (so I have 2 weeks to focus on him and other characters)

Ocean artifact set + Koko. All you need lol

It's really fun to play hutao in C0 coz C1 is a cheat code and no struggle

there should be exploration chatacter too new player and for vtrean

Great Video! I have some opinions on the placements if you don't mind me ranting in your comment section. 1. Personally I think that Ayaka should've gone into honorable mention.Especially for new players, Blizzard Strayer isn't the artifact set I'd recommend them farm, and unless they've completed Dragonspine, they are unable to farm the artifact set in Co-op. Also, she suffers from wanting 2 hydros (similar to hu tao) when many people end up only having two and wanting one on both sides of spiral abyss. I, for one, didn't get Xingqiu until I bought him at AR 50 and I still don't have bennett coz my bad luck. Also, new players won't have the free Lynette and Anemo traveler is not the best cc - especially for freeze teams. This forces the only cc character new players will possibly have (sucrose who I also don't have yet I have c6 collei and xiangling) onto Ayaka's team. 2. Kokomi should've gone much higher in my opinion. There are an abundant of dps characters, but it's much less likely for Kokomi to get powercrept, and she literally has one of the most convenient freeze teams in her and Rosaria 3. Zhongli should've been lower. His shield is convenient and all, but is going in the wrong direction with Fontaine's hp drain, and healers just become so much more relevant.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

I understand some of your points, but let me defend some things: - Even tho your point on the artefact is valid. I do believe most players are going to dragon spine before other regions, and even if they don't, you can actually get away with other set like berserker or even use random pieces, they will just nedd to focus on more crit rate. The only downside of Ayaka is the Sakura blossoms being on Inazuma. And about the other points, Ayaka actually prefers 1 cryo (for battery), then 1 hydro and 1 anemo. Because her DMG comes more from the ultimate so a cryo battery will help. And about the Lynette, every new player gets Lynette for free at AR25, no matter if you started playing last month or next year. She will always be free for new accounts at AR25 (which is not that hard since in the beginning you gain a lot of XP). - About Kokomi, I think her value for a player account will be way higher than most dps on the game. Healers and supports will always be more important for someone to have on an account. And someone like Kokomi, who can fit in almost every team, is way more valuable than most dps of the game. - And about Zhongli, he is at 6th specially because of the same thing you mentioned. Shields are getting more and more oppressed and healers are getting more value. That was the main reason why he is only on the 6th Anyways, I'm glad you expressed your opinion and I actually admit you are right about Ayaka regarding the artefact set. If I misunderstood something you said (because it can always happen) feel free to tell me!!!

@user-xo9zl7yb5d

7 ай бұрын

How can you be AR 50 and not have bennett? The 4.0 event handed a free copy and you can also get him from the shop twice a year.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@user-xo9zl7yb5d some people are just unlucky on Gacha, and don't have time to do the events and save starglitter for even more pulls. Idk if that's what happened but we can't judged. I am AR59 and I don't have sucrose and Chongyun still

@user-kw3de1np1j

7 ай бұрын

​@@user-xo9zl7yb5d XD I missed the event due to HSR hype and being obsessed with it, and I don't like using my starglitter in case I need to use it for extra wishes on a character I really want. Also I'm banking on the fact that I could still always get him with decent rng.

I strongly disagree with 2nd place. Going for Furina isn't a good choice specially when you're talking about new players. Furina is meant to be a buffer for end game players (Ar 55-60). It's really hard to get her fanfare stacks without an AOE healer and almost impossible at low AR. Honestly, everyone her will prefer going for Yelan cuz she fits in so many different team comps, works as a buffer and is very easy to play.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

That is a good point, but don't forget that we all get a free AOE healer, Barbara. And furina is useful for new players as well because she can provide good dmg with her pets, make exploration easier, and she can allow you to only farm one set in the early game. So you can save your resources in farming different sets after you reach ar50

@WanshiLucidDreamer

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX No one will ever recommend to build Barbara, her healing, she doesn't generate energy for her team (unless you have a Fav Codex) and is least optimal choice. Baizhu, Jean and Charlotte are the character with whom she really shines for stacking up fanfare easily. Farming set can be a good choice but this won't be as optimal as Emblem domain cuz most of the character in game can use and not to mention Shimenawa 2 piece is also very universal since most of the character in game still scale off their base attack.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Barbara in some cases will be the only healer for some accounts, so she is not completely bad. I never built Barbara because I got lucky and Bennet was my first 4*, but here in the comments I saw people already saying that Prototype amber + Er Sands does the job on her. The emblem is good for sure, but for new players what they will look for is DMG, because that's what will be lacking in the beginning, so a domain that helps any on field DPS is probably the better choice for those players.

Just lost my 50/50 to a qiqi😂😂 but I did get ayaka before sooo eh

Imo Ayaka is no 2 after Neuvillette. Her 4 pc blizzard set gives 40 CR so it gives you leniency She herself ascends with CD, giving you CD 88.4% at level 90 That's significant! She literally has a forgeable weapon as one of the best suited, which gives Atk % and Energy recharge, so more freedom on artifacts If you can farm a decent Blizzard set then go for her. Apart from that, she can freeze enemies when paired with hydro. Exploration bonus! What else do i need? Anyway, this is just my opinion.

You show Furina in your video but she is not includ in your top (:

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

She is on 2nd place wdym?

Iam an f2p started the game 30 days back my only 5* is furina and iam in ar 45. My current team is Furina,Kuki, Traveller dendro and Barbara. I feel like this team is not enough to advance more levels in the game can u suggest me which character to pull in upcoming banner. Seriously iam stuck in ar 45

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Early game a DPS is needed, so I would recommend Ayaka and if you can try to get Raiden too

@realblueshark

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX Yeah sure i will pull ayaka if i got her in less wishes i will pull for raiden too

@realblueshark

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX Bro should i pull navia or ayaka now navia seems so powerfull

@realblueshark

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX Btw i lost my 50/50 to keqing in navia banner but only with 10 wishes. Should i save up for raiden or pull navia?

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@realblueshark navia is a solid character, but Ayaka is more powerful

I think zhongli, neuvillet, yelan, furina, kazuha, nahida, Raiden should own for player

Honestly I agree with this

Hello im rank 46 rn im a f2p i got dehya (lost 5050) and Furina as 5 star and i honestly dont use dehya my team is c2 xingqiu , c1 xiangling , c0 furina and c2 fischl and as you can see i am lacking a lot of dmg I wanted to pull ayaka because yk she can do lots of dmg and i got literally 0 dmg etc but when i read comments people somehow dont like her i still dont know why but anyways i really need a main dps because i cant do any domains/bosses without borrowing help from my friend and its kind of embarrassing And i probably got enough for one 5 star pull (if i lose 50-50 im dead) should i pull for ayaka or raiden or if i cant get both who should i go for? Thanks 🫢 my current team is the only ones i built btw but if i get a main dps i'll be happy to build other 4 stars as long as i can get dmg

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Ayaka is a great DPS in general. People are just hating on her because she is stuck in freeze teams, and freeze only works in mobs and not on bosses. Raiden is an amazing support and sub DPS. She is the best battery of the game while having a decent sub DPS capability with her burst. Ayaka will be super hard to use on bosses, but Raiden doesn't have the big damage you are quite looking for. For these reasons, if you just can pick one of them I recommend Ayaka if you are really lacking DMG. And if you somehow get both you have your best scenario hahaha And for Ayaka try to build an anemo character like sucrose/kazuha or Lynette if you really don't have her. And since you have furina you can use Charlotte as the healer for that team. So my recommendation for the Ayaka team is: Ayaka - Furina - Kazu/Sucrose/Lynette - Charlotte Thank you so much for leaving a comment and I hope I was able to help you!!! Good luck with your pulls!

@SuiChan

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX thanks a lot for your help!!! I will try to pull ayaka then ^^ 🫶🏻 i should start building 4 stars you mentioned today have a good day!!

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@SuiChan I'm glad I could help! I forgot to mention that Raiden has a good team you can do with your characters, rational. Raiden/Xingqiu/Bennet/Xiangling But, since you seem to be looking more into Ayaka I recommended her more. Remember, pull for characters you like first, no matter what, you need to be enjoying what you are playing or else you will not like the game 😉

@SuiChan

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX yeah you are right! Thanks again :p

you forgot to mention that raiden’s f2p weapon is locked behind the absolute worst demonic trash mechanic in genshin… fishing… there is literally only one place you can get the fish for “the catch” and you cant farm it in one day.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

That's true, but it's not an excuse tbh. Furina's best f2p sword is also from fishing, and you also need to wait for it to be fully refined.

@AwolRemains

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX oh and her too

@AwolRemains

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX yes it 100% is an excuse, i am not willing to spend days fishing for her weapon and i believe a lot of people will agree with me here, the sheer fact that her weapon is just a pain to get should be considered when picking a 5 star character. but then again i can see why you would think its not an excuse given how much free time you probably have to actually farm the weapon

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Technically Furina's best f2p is Fastering Desire, but I'm glad you understand what I was saying hahaha. The fishing weapons have one thing that any other weapon has. They only cost your patience and time to refine, no billets or pulls for that like the others. So as long as you are dedicated and have patience to fish you will have a solid weapon without wasting wishes or resources.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

I wish I had the time you imagine I have hahaha. Believe me, if I didn't have a life outside Genshin, my videos would be posted way quicker. But unfortunately a man needs to work and sometimes needs to play the basic 30 minutes only for day because there is not time for more. You are free to do whatever you want with your account. If you don't wanna fish don't. But if you are trying to get the best from your character as an f2p you kinda don't get to pick and choose. So you need to play with what you have. And having a cracked weapon completely for free that you just need to fish is a win for me. Also, you are not forced to rush it. I took my time way before getting her. Because as a total F2P at the time I was not going to ignore the fact that I had one of Raiden best weapons for free. You don't need to rush for the weapon and refinements right away. Take your time, but saying that needing to fish for the weapon is a bad thing instead of saying that you are getting a cracked f2p option is kinda exaggerated.

Ganyu charged attack is boring but neuvillete's charged attack is not boring because he's strong and hydro🤔

@Konomidebanshouwashikisesur

7 ай бұрын

Yeah because Ganyu can't move around as quick as Neuvillette in his charged attack and his charged attack is beam which can hit multiple enemies. Plus his animations are way cooler.

@anisongs3441

7 ай бұрын

"Ganyu can't move around as quick as Neuvillete during his charged attack"... meaning that now moving around quickly is equal to 100% not getting hit...and thus his charged attack gameplay is not defined as boring...🥲

@Konomidebanshouwashikisesur

7 ай бұрын

@@anisongs3441 it's much easier to not get hit and he also has more IR then Ganyu.

@anisongs3441

7 ай бұрын

@@Konomidebanshouwashikisesur again what's with not getting hit? Just cause you're not able to get hit more often his charged attack is not boring? Wtf man 😐

@Konomidebanshouwashikisesur

7 ай бұрын

@@anisongs3441 yes? You telling me you would have more fun with a character who has 0 IR or a character who has a little IR. Also he has more freedom of movement and way cooler animations 😐

Do you know when nuevilette will come out again?

@D1FENIX

5 ай бұрын

We still don't have any confirmation from hoyoverse. But normally characters get their reruns until the end of the region, so I would guess around 4.6 or 4.7 But we still don't know

@roronoazoro19624

5 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX so about how many months from now....? I just wanna save for him🥲 a rough guess would do

@D1FENIX

5 ай бұрын

@@roronoazoro19624 each patch is around 4/5 weeks if I'm not mistaken. So you would need around 12/15 weeks, totalizing 3/4 months. But don't forget, I don't really know when they will give Neuvillete a rerun. Just keep saving your primos with exploration, events and dailies and you will be able to get him

@roronoazoro19624

5 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX okay thanks...

@D1FENIX

5 ай бұрын

@@roronoazoro19624 no worries! Anything you need feel free to comment or ask on my discord server

You forgot Bennett (the secret 5*)

@D1FENIX

Ай бұрын

He was so unlucky that he forgot to appear here, but made sure to be on the 4* video hahaha.

We need 4 star video too❤

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Next week 😉, stay tuned!

man i don't have any except nahida

@D1FENIX

4 ай бұрын

Remember, these are not mandatory characters. They are just characters that will help you more than others. But with the right amount of dedication and time you can make everyone work!

Yelan and Alhaitham are 2 of my best pull decisions.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

And you are right thinking like that. Yelan will never disappoint and Alhaitam is the best dendro DPS of the game, and does everything amazingly well at C0! The only thing that can make people regret them is just the play style

if its ayaka, i will rather choose Ganyu or Wrio, because they are flexible and very easy to use. also Ayaka's best team consist of 5stars in the game, it will be difficult for new players to catch up their reruns or worst they could be confused which to choose since its double banners.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Finally, you use the right term. "Ayaka best team". Yes, her best team requires 5*, but she can work with 4* perfectly for new players. Ganyu is straight up easier to use but also comes at the cost of more boring gameplay and other demands. Wriothesley I would not recommend it, as someone who created a secondary account just for him, I can say that he absolutely needs C1 and a good team to work well. Or else you will have a hard time playing him.

@kingdoom5022

7 ай бұрын

That before furina release , after furina her best team is ayaka furina Charlotte kazuha , and yeah this team have 3 5 stars but those 2 5 stars are recommended to get anyway

@r.d.6290

7 ай бұрын

I regret pulling Ayaka. So much dependence on good artefacts and 5star swords, and is very clunky to play with that burst of hers.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@r.d.6290 with 4p Blizzard you just need to focus on Crit dmg, atk and ER. And for swords you don't need 5* swords you have 2 craftables amazing for her.

@humantacos9800

7 ай бұрын

Ayaka is fun to play when you get her built right and her OP weapon.

I was down with where you put ayaka and nuvi until you mentioned cons. With cons in mind ayaka should be above him due to her c2 and c4 making her more versatile. You can use her as a cryo enabler at c2 and then any team that wants defense shred wants to use her at c4.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

But at C0, Neuvillette is the best DPS in the game. So new players or F2P ones that won't go for constellations will find him more valuable. And each constellation for Neuvillette improves his DPS role even more. So even if we consider them both at C6, Neuvillette will be the best pick always. But thank you for explaining your opinion!!!

@Lily-cd6gu

7 ай бұрын

At c0 and with cons neuvillette is better as a dps

@MrJayslayerjay

7 ай бұрын

@@Lily-cd6gu do you have cons?

@MrJayslayerjay

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX sorry but a one trick pony isn't good for new accounts lol. Do you have the cons and experience with them?

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

no I don't have any constellations for neuvillette. And he is super easy to play no matter if he is your main character or not. I will eventually go for C1 just because of the possibility of not needing to run 4 different elements on the team. But I've been using him on basically every abyss and he is not hard to play.

My ganyu is hitting more dmg than my ayaka lol (solo )

so your reason for leaving out Baizhu is that he is dendro focused, but Alhaitham and Nahida make the list even though they are also dendro focused? And also, you called Dendro the weakest element in single target. Such misinformation earned you "Don't Recommend Channel." Have a good day.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Alhaitam is the best DPS for dendro teams, nahida the best support. Baizhu is a healer focused on dendro teams, and totally focuses on it since his passives boost dendro reactions. And while Alhaitam and Nahida are pretty much irreplaceable, Baizhu is not a must because you have other dendro healers/shielders, he almost only becomes a must if you plan on doing an dendro team with furina. And regarding the single target, I don't remember what I said because it's already a while since I recorded this, but what I meant is that dendro is the weakest solo element. I don't remember what I said, but I thought I said correctly, anyways, thank you for noticing that! Have an amazing day my friend!! Edit: I said: "and even tho dendro is the weakest element in solo DMG", so yeah, I never mentioned single target, I was referring to the element in a solo comp (mono dendro for example)

BS. Xing Qiu is all you need for Hu Tao and while she's not even on the list Ayaka is?!? As for Raiden especially at C0 call me crazy but even putting her in the honorable mentions may be too high, she does no dmg and electro is only usefull for dendro making even Kuki at least on par with her as at least she can heal.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Hutao prefers 2 hydro, both for more hydro app and for hydro resonance. For some reason her best teams are either: -> Xingqiu - Yelan - Zhongli -> Xingqiu - Furina - Jean And it's preferable for Xingqiu to be C6 Like I said on the video, Ayaka can have a team already based only with free characters. And regarding Raiden, if you think people only use her for the element you are wrong. Raiden at C0 is not a DPS, it's a fact. But archons have their kits focused towards support capabilities. If you think a good characters needs to have good numbers you are wrong. Characters with good support capabilities will always be way better than any DPS you may find, thats why you don't see Neuvillette better than 7th place. If you like to only see DMG on your screen it's fine by me. But the best characters are not define by a big number but more from what they provide to the whole team.

@qwertysysysyysysysyzz

7 ай бұрын

​@@D1FENIXlmfao ayaka is even more money hungry then hu tao atleast hu tao got f2p options unlike ayaka

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz Ayaka best team may be full of 5*, but this doesn't mean she needs that team right away. You can perfectly get away with characters like Diona, Rosaria, Xingqiu, Sucrose, Lynette. And like I said on the video, Ayaka gets already a functional team with only F2P characters. Kaeya can serve as a battery and sub DPS, Barbara for healing and hydro app, and Lynette for VV. Meanwhile Hutao? The only 4 stars you see her running with are Xingqiu and sometimes Thoma. Even tho she can also get away with some 4*, you will barely see them with her

@qwertysysysyysysysyzz

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX because ayaka optimal team is with shenhe kazuha kokomi, 2 of those characters are not even that valuable lmfao but hu tao her best team only really wants yelan or kazuha this is an "or" not even an "and", And hu tao already shines with just xingqiu ayaka cant even single rotate a overworld boss unlike dragonsbane hutao + xingqiu duo lmfao Hu tao f2p team can go Hu tao xingqiu sucrose amber Hu tao xingqiu barbara fischl/bennett Hu tao xingqiu is the core, that's it others are extra

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@qwertysysysyysysysyzz you are saying Ayaka "optimal team" is full of 5*, but by your logic Hutao "optimal team" is also full of 5*. Second, Ayaka's best team is no longer that one. - Ayaka/Shenhe/Furina/Jean - Ayaka/Furina/Kazuha/Charlotte Are her best teams now, and the second version is full of good characters that will work in various different teams. Second topic, the 4* you selected for hutao are some of the worst decisions imo. Hutao plus 2 healers? Amber? Only Fischl from all you said can work but is still not recommended unless you wanna use more stamina running around enemies after overload. Hutao will need 2 hydro and a shielder, Zhongli is the best one. But Thoma is not a bad pick because it also gives ATK due to pyro resonance. And your argument of only using Hutao and Xingqiu may be valid in some abyss, but normally unless you have cons for both of them, it's almost impossible to do it with only those 2.

Well well , i gave top 3 and yes i do clear abyss quick and easy, So now that I've seen this I'm gonna wait for raiden instead of pulling for ayato

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Raiden is on the list with a more supportive role. She is the best battery of the game and she has 100% uptime on electro application. If you have C2 she will also be a burst DPS instead of a Burst Sub dps. But if you want her I do recommend her!

@doishyu

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX i don't have her i have playing since march , so at first i thought let's pull ayato , then raiden would be a good pic, but i love both cahracters

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@doishyu Raiden must be reruning soon since last time she had rerun with Ayato. And archons normally have more frequent reruns than other characters. But in terms of boosting your account value, even tho ayato fits every team, Raiden is more valuable

kinda funny: hutao not on list cause need 2 hydro but then started with ayaka and says..she just need 2 hydro XD

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

You misunderstood what I was trying to say. Hutao needs 2 hydro, Ayaka can use 2 hydro. But Ayaka is top 10 because you can already use her with f2p characters and even tho her best team is 5* she will work with a 4* team.

@Red-io7jg

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX so Hutao cant work with 4stars?

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@Red-io7jg she can, but not as easily as Ayaka for example. For hutao, Xingqiu is a must. Then you have some okay options like Thoma, sucrose, Fischl (probably some more). But while Ayaka can work well just based on the elements and on the functions, hutao really wants the characters in specific. That's why Ayaka is more f2p friendly even tho her best team is full of 5*

@Red-io7jg

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX so me doing just fine with Hutao not using vape was wrong🤔

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@Red-io7jg hutao is supposed to be played as a vape DPS . But if you are having fun with the team comp you are doing feel free to continue. What matters is if you are happy playing with her!

No doubt everyone needs neuvillate to solo the abyess 😂

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Neuvillette straight up the best DPS in the game. But he is still not as valuable as other supports haha

@Saptarshi_impact

7 ай бұрын

Who cares about because he solos so he doesn't need support

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@Saptarshi_impact then who's the one doing the other half of the abyss? Signora hahaha? Neuvillette is good yes, but you will always need support in case you want him to do his best numbers possible or to buff and help other DPS characters. Remember that when Natlan launches the abyss will probably be mostly with hydro and cryo enemies, and Neuvillette will not help that much. Supports are always going to be more valuable than DPS

For new player furina is not good until u has a strong team healer her buff filles less

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Barbara. 2 hydro gives more HP for both of them. And Barbara also has nuke healing and healing over time for the active character

@Saptarshi_impact

7 ай бұрын

But she bad for furina because u need everytime her burst

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@Saptarshi_impact that's a good argument yes. But that's also the problem for almost every healer. Just Baizhu is saved from that. Besides, since both are hydro, furina helps Barbara with some particles too.

@Saptarshi_impact

7 ай бұрын

Itz mean u need anethor battery in team or maybe mono hydro i means barabar energy regeneration is bad compair to other healer

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@Saptarshi_impact I don't play Barbara personally because I got Bennett since the beginning, but I suppose building some ER on her would help. Or someone in the team could use favonious About furina, my furina has 174 er (HP sword, ER Sands) and I have my ult relatively soon even with her being the only hydro

I'll get nuevilette ...

Here's my opinion: 1. Kazuha 2. Nahida 3-6. Yelan or Childe or Neuv or Alhaitham 7. Furina 8. Venti 9. Baizhu 10. Koko

Meanwhile me using: Hu Tao, Kazhua, Xingqiu, Zhongli .....

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

It works, but she prefers Xingqiu and Yelan for the hydro resonance and the DMG buff Yelan gives on top of the extra hydro app

MONSIEURR NEUVILETTE

I will never regret pulling Alhaitham instead of Kazuha. Al was my first 5 star dps and helped so much in dealing damage. And while Kazuha could help a lot too, he also made fights boring in my opinion. Now if only I could pull Tighnari reliably...

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Alhaitam is amazing for anyone that is lacking damage, especially at the beginning of the game. Kazuha is for someone who is looking to improve their DPS damage even more (if he works with them ofc).

@gamershubham5

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX and also kazuha is helpful in the abyss cause he can suck almost all the characters at whatever place we want

@jgmoney

7 ай бұрын

​@@gamershubham5 ayo 🤨

@N1CKczemN1CK

7 ай бұрын

Bro you obvious didn't play Kazuo, I love Haitam but Kaz is just build different

@ralesidtparrot9334

7 ай бұрын

@@N1CKczemN1CK I did, that's why I'm saying I find him boring, suck and kill, Makes combat trivial instead of fun. He would be my top prio pull for Abyss for sure if I cared about it though.

I agree with the list. Simple rule: Archons are great (Venti is great just not higher floors of the Abyss anymore). Ayaka is the best cryo DPS in the game right now. Alhaitham is the #2 DPS in the game - and best dendro DPS Kokomi is such a good healer and hydro applicator. Nahida is a game-changing dendro applicator. Zhongli is still great for surviving content. I think he's almost a must have for some weekly bosses like Raiden Shogun, the Guardian of the Oasis, the Celestial Narwhal and Scaramouche until you're super at dodging everything. Neuvillette - I still don't have him, but anyone who can solo clear the Abyss is alright in my books. Yelan's hydro application is amazing. She's even a decent DPS. Raiden Shogun is probably the best electro character in the game. Raiden National is still one of my best Abyss teams. Furina - I'm still getting used to her. I know she is great on paper, I just don't have the most practice with her. Kazuha is my first 5* and he was game-changing. Crowd control, shield/resistance shred, and damage bonus, I almost never leave home without him.

I put off Yoimiya for like a year or more. She’s one of my favorites now. Yelan, Kazuha, and Yae Miko too. I’m really starting to like Furina a lot. Still can’t stand Itto and Cyno.

7 ай бұрын

My dream is to make Cyno a good character for my abyss team where he needs to do damage less than 75 seconds but it is hard

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Are you using him on Quickbloom or just aggravate? I don't have him unfortunately but just because of bad timing, I will eventually pull for him. And since his first day I thought he would be better in quickblooms. So if you are not trying this it's worth giving it a shot And for what I'm aware of, his best team atm is: Cyno/Nahida/Furina/Baizhu Did you try this?

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX C4 is my aim My team is aggravate, the fun is seeing him doing damage, I love oonga bunga!

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@ on Quickbloom you will do damage both from aggravate and from hyperblooms. That's why his best team is the one I mentioned. Idk what C4 does tho, so I will not it is his best team forever

@humantacos9800

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX I barely use him anymore. I'd rather use nahida/yae or yae/alhaitham. Her off-field damage is unreal with dendro. Right now I'm using Furina/Jean/Yae/Nahida or Yoimiya. It's massive off-field damage.

Slight changes to the list: 1. Kazuha, nahida, furina are a must pull no questions asked 2. If you pulled for nahida, alhaitham becomes unnecessary, yes he's good, but nahida does the same job in dendro teams and provides em increase on top of that, alhaitham may make up for the difference in dmg, but you can implement nahida in teams other than dendro like reverse melt and what not 3. The strongest solo dps in the game is Nevillette no doubt, but he still has a problem getting staggered... Plus when paired with a team, hu tao may be a pain to build and play but the reward is so massive it's not even funny, especially against boss enemies, and ayaka may be as good, but she needs a strong crowd controller and may not work against enemies that can't be frozen, but she excels against crowds if you have a good crowd controller (the best is kazuha)

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

I understand some of your topics, but I wanna clarify some things. 1. Yes you are right on that, that's why they are top 3 2. Alhaitam potential gets even better with nahida. He is not necessary, but she is a support for him. So, in my opinion, if people like to spread teams and already have nahida, Alhaitam will never disappoint 3. Neuvillette gets interrupted only by big enemies and big attacks (ex: Ruin Guard) and since he has range and moves around you are going to be safe from it normally. But ofc, having a shielder or C1 gives you comfort

@fengsanlian6514

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX for beginners, i believe nahida is a better choice since she's easier to build, but i can't deny how good alhaitham is in dendro teams late game, nahida may be more flexible since she doesn't require on field treatment all the time, but alhaitham is just a better dmg dealer no doubt In the end, you can pull both of them and build a perfect team no problem, but ofc i was talking about efficiency in early game pulls

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@fengsanlian6514 I was someone who skipped nahida at 3.2 and got Alhaitam on his launch. I can guarantee he was a legend even without nahida. But after nahida he was my best DPS until I got Neuvillette. But yeah, nahida is way better for new players that's why she is at 3rd place hahaha

@fengsanlian6514

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX same here as well

Why nobody mention about the audio?

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Some people did mention my voice is a bit low. And I heard it by myself, but I also noticed that it changes depending on devices. In my phone for example I can hear the video without headphones and I will hear it perfectly. But on some PC I can't

For me I'd put Nilou on 10th. Very underrated. Nilou bloom is very f2p friendly and easy to build compared to ayaka. And it will work so much better than forcing an f2p ayaka team. Saying she's niche is not valid anymore. You can beat any aoe content with Dendro Traveler+Barbara+collei. If u go for the other 5* in this top 10 like nahida and kokomi she gets even better. Can even beat ST too if u go for alhaitham or nahida cons.

@ASvGR

7 ай бұрын

It's f2p friendly but her max dmg potential it's locked behind her weapon and that 4* weapon who gives hp which is sad but works

@Sanatic14

7 ай бұрын

i got nilou as my first 5 star and she is still level 30. ik im dumb but i dont understand her hydro plus dendro team synergy. can you explain? thanks

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@Sanatic14 after you use nilou skill (E-E-E or E-NA-NA-NA) every dendro core created by the team will explode almost instantly for a period of time. But for that to happen you need only hydro and dendro on the team. And the best thing about nilou is that you just need to build her with HP and you don't need to level up talents. So, if you have her with a lot of HP and you fulfill the condition of only having hydro and dendro on the team, she will turn every dendro cores into literal bombs hahaha. Just be careful with survivability, you will need a healer because who ever is onfield will be taking DMG as well

I can agree for the most part except Zhongli. He's easily replaceable once you get a proper healer and debuffer.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

That's why he is only in 6th place. And even tho healers are more important nowadays with Furina, Zhongli will give you more comfort than any other character

@hypwhoknowsanything3551

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX Replaceability and low character strength aside, i can see a lot of newbies preferring to be invincible more than dealing maximum damage so i can see where you're coming from. I personally pull for characters that are more comfortable to play.

@humantacos9800

7 ай бұрын

Cough Furina Cough

raiden better than yelan, haitham and neuvi are three of the takes of all time

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Supports > DPS Yelan is just behind her because you can get Xingqiu easily

@IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIX

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX Yelan is a support dps, she gives 40 dmg% for your on field dps. Plus c6 xingqui is not "easy" for a new player and yelan c0 is massively superior to pre c6 xingqui.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIX all you said it's true, but Raiden still more valuable than them

@IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIX

7 ай бұрын

​@@D1FENIX How? As a dps: c2 raiden does less damage than c0 neuve. She's no better a hyperbloom trigger than kuki. As a support: Fischl is excellent if you need an electro battery. Raiden is pretty mid in all her roles :Shrug:

@ASvGR

7 ай бұрын

If u use raiden yelan/xinq xiang bennett u have 1 of the strongest teams in the game, 1/2 5* 2/3 4* cheap team and good dmg overall neuv c0 can be better than raiden as dps but she is more valuable as sub dps support but even hypercarry raiden c2 is still very good

I refused to pull for Neuville cuz im enjoying to much Childe gameplay, also Childe>Ayaka easy.

Barbara is the best

My expectation 10th place Shogun 9th place Lyney 8th place Neuvillette 7th place Kamisato Ayaka 6th place Venti 5th place Zhongli 4th place Kaedehara Kazuha 3th place Nahida 2th place Yelan 1th place FURINA, THE QUEEN Who need Kokocopium if Furina does everything and being optimal in everything, Charlotte has support and healing capabilities better than Kokomi and she is better to Furina, most deserved f2p 1th place! Edit, when I saw your video: I will keep my 10 best characters for F2p, but Kokomi in this tier list is meh for me, I agree with the rest, Shogun being out in the best f2p characters as being very weird in my opinion! This is accurate with some hard thoughts for me accept that!

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for expressing your opinion!

7 ай бұрын

I just edited my opinion, I am copium about Raiden, a million of apologies! This is meta view, if you don't want that, just pull for character that liked more

your voice is too small bro

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Small? You mean low?

@Piikaachuu1203

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX yes, your voice is very quiet and hard to hear in this video - I had to turn up my volume very high

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@Piikaachuu1203 I've noticed some problems with that as well. It seems to be different from device to device. With headphones the audio seems fine. With one PC speaker I tried seems low, but with my phone the speaker is actually great. Idk what's causing this :/

Hellooo❤

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Hello! Hope you enjoy the video!

@Cudoviste24

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX it was a great video but no ayato in it 😭 but it had another character i like (ganyu) Can i ask if u think we should go for who we want and then after that get them supports, or get the "necessary" versatile characters first? I really like bow characters and i kinda wanna collect them, and im thinking of getting yoimiya too thats why!

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@Cudoviste24 even tho ayato is my boy I need to be real and in my opinion, for someone who is tight on primos or just want the best account possible, he is not a priority. Regarding your question. In my opinion you should always prioritize fun over meta. This video was more towards new or f2p players that just want to have the best account as quickly as possible. I will always advise people to pull for characters they love even if a super good character is reruning after. In resume, if you want to have a strong account asap, prioritize characters on this list. If you don't care about meta at all, take your time and pull for who you like. If in the future you want some characters on this list, then you go for them! And about yoimiya, she works just like hutao, but she is a bit weaker unfortunately. But if you like her go for her without even questioning or listening others saying it's not worth it.

@Cudoviste24

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX i respect your opinions so much because its so non judgemental towards newbies and different types of players :) I'm not really that much into meta but i definitely want to fight with the characters i like i hope i can make yoimiya work then!!

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@Cudoviste24 yoimiya best team if I'm not mistaken is: Yoimiya, kazuha, Bennett, Yun Jin (C6) But she gets interrupted super easily and she can do decent DMG with vapes, a more new player friendly team you can use is: Yoimiya, Bennett, Yelan, Zhongli (you can replace Yelan with Xingqiu and with this, since xingqiu provides resistance to interruption, you can switch Zhongli or the shielder for an anemo support like Kazuha/sucrose/Lynette for example) Thank you so much! You are right, I will never judge new players, specially those who wanna know more from the game and are not afraid to learn. I will post a best 4* characters version next week, so keep an eye out for that as well! I'm sure it will help you! Never be afraid of asking for help, because from my side I will always try to help!

1. If you want to save primos go with the 4stars National team 2. Yelan is MID 3. Furina’s kit makes your artifact farming friendlier. This alone makes her the best hydro support in game + her massive minion damage. 4. Just pick one 5star per element, get their cons build them up instead of building a lot of C0s. 5. Get the C2 or bust mentality, if you cant pull for C2 dont pull…why? Because most 5star powers are unlocked at C2… 6. No need to watch a 10minute video over this matter.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

1. Yes, that team can work, what about the second half? 2. Yelan is a buffer and another Xingqiu, making her useful. 3. That's why furina is top 2 4. For meta mentality, that's a bad decision for sure. 5. Going for constellations is good in most cases but that's a luxury 6. If you don't wanna watch the video don't! There other people who want

@Zerocyxone9

7 ай бұрын

@@D1FENIX watching a video which spreads misinformation is bad. This is the reason why so many peeps are lost and cant even 36 stars abyss. Because of this kind of reviews. If you are saying that yelan is good then this means that you are playing only til 4.1. She has nowhere to go in today’s meta. A jack of all trades but a master of none.

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

@@Zerocyxone9 that is why most people actually believe she belongs to the 1st place. If you think Yelan is mid, I think that's a problem you need to solve with yourself because you are giving her hate without valid reasons.

Kazu is overrated

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

It's your opinion, everyone has theirs

7 ай бұрын

It's not best than Yelan of course

I need Kazuha 🥹😔 any idea when he might come back?

@D1FENIX

7 ай бұрын

Kazuha seems to have a preference to get reruns before we go to a different nation. So maybe around 4.8? But there is always the possibility of him reruning early.