Another great video. I have to say, you are one of the very best channels in RC tech talk. Intelligent, unbiased, objective focused, and honest. In my opinion. Always welcome smart information.

@philthyco1

Жыл бұрын

#agree

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks!

@thatoneguy2756

Жыл бұрын

@@RazorRC skeeter for the win!! Just had to say that again. Do you have a video on typhon,radix 6, and another buggy comparison in that class?

I know whats up with breaking the Arrma 4S V2 chassis, I have one too. The suspension comes out of the box not set up to do jumps hardly at all. Its the softest suspension setup that I have ever seen on an RTR basher. Literally, when I floor it on the street and then hit the brakes, the squat and nose dive honestly resembles that of a Traxxas UDR. Its THAT soft. I believe what happened is Arrma simply re-used the spring rate and shock oil from the 3S trucks thinking it would be a good idea to have it a bit softer under the larger truck. On the one hand, they do have a point - this 4S Kraton handles better than the 6S one, and the shock travel over bumps is simply INSANE. However, even 3-foot high jumps will bottom out the suspension and slam the chassis on the ground. So whats happening to you is: When you jump your Kraton 4S V2 15-20 feet high, the chassis is literally taking 90% of the force from the impact, while the suspension does next to nothing. To do jumps higher than 5 feet, you gotta add a bit of extra preload to the springs and use some thicker shock oil for sure.

@Kuduce

Жыл бұрын

which shock oil thickness would you recommend? I am quite new to the hobby and the kraton is my first car

@wallacengineering8096

Жыл бұрын

@@Kuduce Which Kraton? 6S or 4S?

@Kuduce

Жыл бұрын

@@wallacengineering8096 4S V2

So what you're saying is I need one of each...sold!

Great video. I got the Sketer for my daughter and have put the 4S backflips on it and the M2C 5mm extenders but would still like it wider as it rolls extremely easy. What did you use to make it wider? Is there a wider Hub I could use with the M2C? Cheers..Mal

I wait so long for this thanks a lot for your perfect review...

Love my Maxx v2 a lot. Got the outcast had one good run with it. Now the radio is bugging out. Gets stuck in reverse. Lucky was able to get it to stop before it crashed. I need to rebind it see if it fixes it.

Excellent video! I know not everyone is going to agree (no surprise there) but I think you nailed it 👍 I typically place handling ahead of anything else and think the Sketer is the best. However, in this case, I think I would lean towards the Kraton, mostly for parts availability and support. Thanks!

Great and honest review as always from you, we really love your style. We would choose the Maxx though because of the durability, we have lots of trucks that drives well, we just want an extreme durable “send it” truck 👍

My Maxx is a beast and i have not broke anything yet, knock on wood. I saw both the Sketer and 4s Kraton in the hobby shop and the Sketer looks like a much stronger and beefier car then the Kraton. Thanks for doing these videos love watching them

Great video razor!!

Brilliant video razer rc nice truck love ❤️ the traxxas Xmax

Which one the best for driving in flat surface?no jumping.

I have been thinking about getting a Maxx for some time now. I keep watching videos and reading reviews on the Maxx, and I just can’t justify owning one. I have a few 2x4 Traxxas vehicles and they are ok. But… I love my Arrma Kraton.

So Maxx is $570 over there but is equivalent to $689 here in Europe! While Sketer is $490 there, $482 here and Kraton 4S v2 is $470 there, $494 here. Traxxas is very evidently giving their European customers the shaft!

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

yeah, guess they really don't want to sell any cars in Europe!

@sambagogo777

Жыл бұрын

@@RazorRC Seemingly so! Sledge is equivalent to $874 and Xmaxx is equivalent to $1253. Hilariously overpriced.

@LosihoTTT

Жыл бұрын

Maxx V2 is a thousand dollars here in Australia

@sambagogo777

Жыл бұрын

@@LosihoTTT USD or AUD?

@LosihoTTT

Жыл бұрын

AUD

I`m not into massive big jumps or stunts. Would the Kraton be a good choice? I know that the chassis it looks like the power and handling is very good.

Latley I've been really enjoying the fast ground huggers, pretty cool what these cars can do now days. Oregon has a huge team corally dealer

Agreed 100% bro, the Value, handling, and durability give the Skeeter the win.... And my LHS has plenty of Corally parts.... And I don't live in a big town.... Kinda medium

Would you have this same view now . My mind leading toward arrma 4s. Buying one

hey razor have you tried a bash bar the krton 4s check m2c chassis they legit 7075 aluminum ones and i think u can get different thickness

When you’re speaking about the Traxxas warranty is that with filling out the warranty card? Great job on the review

Love your comparison videos! I recently bought the Kraton 4s V2, I love it but I've had some issues with it. Also the Mojave 6s shocks are the exact same size if anyone is looking to upgrade 😉

@Onlinechatbuddy495

Жыл бұрын

​@@ryanmartin8105 I haven't had it for very long but I love the thing just smacked a curb today drag racing my brothers granite lol wasn't paying attention but I was going abt 40 and only need a sway bar and a chassis but the chassis could go thru more easily it just won't let me connect My a arm again lol

I like the Skeeter, I've broken the arms on my 4s outcast so many times with just a slight rollover. Used GPM arms and so far ok. The shocks leaked all the time so used alloy aftermarket. Great comparison, the Skeeter is next for me.

Dude I really like your videos.

Are the A-arms, driveshafts and shocks a big improvement on the V1 and 3s trucks? How about Corally plastic's quality. Corally fastest around a track?

I built a bash bar for the 4s kraton like the m2c racing one and it's super tough now. I also think the kraton is the best looking truck imo and it has bigger ring and pinion diffs😎👍great review and video 🤙

Love the comparison vid! I would like to see how much $ was spent on repairs as part of the value too though. Being cheap doesn't mean much if I'm replacing a chassis every 3rd outing. Keep up the good videos!

Love my Maxx. Definately agree that the best part is it’s durability. Gonna check out the Skeeter next thx to your recommendation.

Hey Razor Rc. Great review. What bmx park did you film this video at?

@plam408

Жыл бұрын

What was the bmx park when you were filming the Sketer?

Awesome video! I have the Sketer and agree with you 100%. I’m glad this is the truck I have. Just recently built the mt410 and am still tweaking it but enjoy it tons too. I really appreciate you giving your honest opinion. I may own the v2 kraton at some point if the right deal comes along. Personally don’t care for the max but it is an amazing contender. I do wish there was better support for the Sketer in the U.S. I think I personally would buy another Sketer “brand new” full price before gettin one of the others. Just can’t get enough of this Sketer. Thanks again for the awesome review and honest tested opinions. Keep it up bro!

@philthyco1

Жыл бұрын

RC hobby explosion has parts and no tax..Fast shipping out of Texas

@jeffaltman1900

Жыл бұрын

@@philthyco1 thanks Philth I'm going to ✔️ them out for parts for the sketer. HRP can be a bit pricey

@philthyco1

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffaltman1900 For sure..I've been buying stuff from RC hobby explosion for nearly 3 years never had an issue.. fast shipping from texas and also no tax.. They have lots of TC parts also HPI stuff ..Have a good one my friend

Which has the highest top speed out of the box by chance? The Kraton?

Do you have a link to the parts you recommend for the krayton?

@paulclancy2404

Жыл бұрын

Stick some phoam or rubber under motor call it a day

HI SIR GREAT TRUTHFUL VIDEO THANKYOU. THE SKETTER IN 🇬🇧 IS £30 CHEEPER AND PARTS ARE VERY EASY TO COME BYE. KRATON V2 AND OUTCAST HAS BEEN PUT BACK UNTIL DECEMBER ☹️. FOR ME ITS THE SKETTER. OH AND SKETTER IS £160 pounds CHEEPER THAN THE MAX.

@RCvapor

Жыл бұрын

Agree fully like you say here in the U.K. team Corally is so much cheaper than Arrma and traxxas 👍

@mikebird8290

Жыл бұрын

@@RCvapor TOTALLY 🇬🇧👍🏼

@jerryvolpini7987

Жыл бұрын

You live in Europe where parts support for the Sketer is much better. Not so, in most of North America 👍

CustomaRCupgrades in UK Carey loads of aftermarket parts for the Corally cars now, as shock standoffs in titanium, hindge pin holders and Ackerman (maybe more)

Did you break the chassis on the new Kraton 2.5 five times? I know you broke the chassis on the earlier version a number of times.

great videos! I want to buy a MAXX, what's better V1 or V2?

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

Get the V2, the V1 has been discontinued

Everything is tuff on the 4s arrma just the chassis is weak. A little bash bar that goes under the ski plate ro skid plate by 2mm thick could do a lot for it. I always felt their composite is too hard

IMHO i think the MAXX is easiest to work on though the fun is in the Kraton 4S v2, the Sketer 4S would be a great addition to any collection.

So……buy all 3?

I just don't understand the Corally bumper design. On my Kronos V2 its the exact same. So much stress is put on the wheels and front suspension with any kind of hit. Wish they would put an actual bumper on it to provide more protection since the overall durability (IMO) is behind the others. Aside - Perhaps the shock oil needs thickening on the Kraton? Although I find every RC needs new Shock oil if you are doing any kind of launching and sending.

I am selling my Kraton 4s V2 sealed in the box. Definitely buyers remorse. The only one I didn’t research enough. Bring back team associated quality like the sc8e. I still have my Team Associated Nomad. Now that’s a beast. Shame they were only a limited run.

@RazorRC

4 ай бұрын

throw the updated chassis on there, and it should be good 👍

DEFINITELY GETTING MYSELF THE OUTCAST V2. ALREADY PAID FOR 🇬🇧. CAN'T WAIT. JUST HOPE ITS NOT PUT BACK ANYMORE. DECEMBER PLEASE 🙏

@patmarcus172

Жыл бұрын

Im getting the outcast v2 but will install a CRCU motor mount in it before I even run it the first time as I really cant be doing with swapping chassis. I recently swapped my Big Rock chassis which only broke after a full speed crash into a concrete block. It only took about 90 mins but I never want to do it again. Perhaps CRCU will also release a titanium bash bar and that'll help too.

Have you seen the maxx mod we're they put rear slege shocks on the rear of the maxx?

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

I heard of it, but I'd have to try it out. Shocks might be too long.

@nickmoe16

Жыл бұрын

@@RazorRC that's why people put fuel tubing under the piston. But I way thinking way not just buy the sledge shock body and spring instead of having the longer sledge shock shaft.

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

that would be my suggestion, I hate fuel tubing on shocks, I'll make a video why one day...

Razor - the Associated MT8 didn't even make the contest ? I still consider it a 4S truck, not a 6S

did anyone else have overheating problems with the Keaton 4s?

I can't say much about the Skeeter. But I do own a Maxx V1 stock & a Maxx V1 modified. My buddies went the other direction with the Fire team, Notorious and a Krayton. Has a lot to do with driving but I will tell you this they definitely spend more time broken than I do. And it's not due to lack of parts it's cuz they break more often.

@VetteWay2Fast

9 ай бұрын

If they went with the 6s line on the Kraton and Notorious, they may break a little more if not upgraded but those models are heavier and considerably more powerful than the Maxx. The maxx can’t do half of what a 6s Arrma can do, especially in the air with their much larger tires for rotational mass (spin control) and power systems on 6s. I’ve had just about every rc over the past 20 years and have the most fun with the 6s Kraton and Outcast off ramps. Things can basically rotate in a half a second are are crazy durable with a few particular upgrades

Your right about the maxx the beating it takes always makes me laugh 😂 handling on the other hand 🤭🙄

Ditto on Rocks DBlocks words. Hit it on the nail. Always very professional in all means. But I have to disagree with the out come. I think derability comes in the fact that all cars break, but you will be waiting on parts probably 2-3 times longer and that means it becomes a shelf queen. Not by choice. Arrma's parts are within 2-3 days. So even if it breaks, I could have the parts within 2-3 hours local. Thanks for your honesty and thoroughness. Have Fun

I wish Corally would release a 4S stunt truck, that would be my personal favorite!

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

that would be awesome!

@davidsomeone6839

Жыл бұрын

Arent the Dementor and Jambo similar to an Outkast? I see you specifically said 4s, while these support 6S. Based on my experience, with the Kronos V2 and the Punisher, these trucks are better setup from the factory for 4S.

Excellent video. My MAXX is such a goofy and fun monster truck that makes me and others laugh cause it's always on the verge of being out of control. My Kraton 4s is more of a precision basher that's stable and fun at skate parks hitting big gaps. I can't live without either of them. They complement each other when I go out bashing. I'm going to have to try a Corally. I've never owned one. I'll have to order one for Labor day as they might have a sale somewhere. Even so, it's not that expensive. I made my own bash plate for the Kraton V2 as I have broken 3 chassis at the skate park from chassis slapping.

@paulclancy2404

Жыл бұрын

So when you getting a grown-up rc haha jk all good rcs . I thought this after I bought Maxx now outcast why my buying these . Try piece stainless steel the width of the skid plates ,use those 8 screws. I just got a piece to try myself, not so much strength but also acts as a skid . The tc seems like good truck it's basically thier buggy turned into a truck .

I guess I'm a rebel. I have the Maxx V1 and I've always loved it. I don't even have the Widemaxx kit- to me it's fine as is. Yeah, it's not as stable and as easy to handle. Maybe it is a brick compared to the Arrma. But I can take it out every day and not worry about breaking something. And even when I do- if I don't have the part I have two stores within 15 minutes of my house that have pretty much everything for it. And the prices for parts, especially the basic type parts is just way better than everything else. People can rip on Traxxas all they want for using plastics and cheaper materials, etc- but there is no need to overengineer everything if it doesn't break. It boggles my mind how on one hand they rip on Traxxas for being built cheap- yet admit to their vehicles being highly durable. Bashing is about durability first and foremost- and if the thing is capable of taking 30 foot jumps, why are we complaining? I don't care if I take a digger now and again- that's part of the fun.

Thunder Tiger MT4-G3

I feel like i have to go with whats more in line with LHS. In that case Arrma. I own 4 Arrmas, and usually getting parts isnt that bad. I buy parts from JennysRC, but if out of stock, deal with LHS prices :(

the maxx is durable as all hell, but the terrible handling and electronics made it not a fun experience for me. I love my arrma 4s v2 rigs. would love to try corally, but no dealer nearby so would just have to order everything I suppose

Considering you can get parts easy now after the kraton has been out. You could up that one point. It would be the winner lol.

In short, get the Arrma Kraton 4S V2, the only weakness is servo, so get a goog Savox Servo ($149), consider the M2C Bash Bar & Motor Mount ($141). So real Kraton cost with upgrades $760 and is a beast, and will tread water on the 6S Kraton with these upgrades....Done :)

@surfside75

6 күн бұрын

Even better deal for the Kraton as it now ships with the upgraded chassis and a center differential❤

@creditrazer981

6 күн бұрын

I bought early, and got the model with Slipper Clutch. Didnt really bother me, easy to maintain, and cheaper to replace if needed. But agree the center diff in a 4S is nice. When time comes will get the newest model, and give my son the upgraded 4S 2.0, when daddy gets the 2.5...Upgrades cost $$$ so will be a hot minute for me.

Great, fair comparison. Having watched your videos of the Sketer i recall you saying that it was about $100 for the widening plus of course the extra for a bigger pinion (which a lot of reviewers feel it needs) and another chunk for bigger wheels. So you could easily put $200 into it to make it "right." That makes its value less of a cert, in spite of all the nice metal and high quality engineering it features. Im really hoping that the Kraton (and Outcast) JUST need a better motor mount and potentially something cheap and absorbing under the motor and then theyre as durable as the Sketer or even the Maxx. No doubt you'll let us know. Sadly, us guys in the UK will have to wait til Christmas to test out the hypothesis.

@billyhighfill

Жыл бұрын

Install sorbothane under your motor and esc. I’ve done it on multiple rigs with GREAT SUCCESS. This material is hydrophobic and dissipates impacts and vibrations wonderfully!! It’s a shock obsorber for your electronics. It’s not cheap. But you don’t use much

@billyhighfill

Жыл бұрын

Look up impact mitigation foam.

@patmarcus172

Жыл бұрын

@@billyhighfill I know the stuff - used to isolate hifi components. Great suggestion.

@paulclancy2404

Жыл бұрын

@@billyhighfill is that a rubber like substance ? Used on circuit boards ? I usually just use piece of a pitmat or yoga mat .

@paulclancy2404

Жыл бұрын

You could just use cheap wheel extenders .like 10 bucks .

I just could never fall in love with Maxx... I wanted to like. I really did, but I recently sold it. Plenty durable for me. Just lacked the power that the Arrmas packed.

@qzf809

Жыл бұрын

All you had to do is put max8 ESC in it and it transforms it massively.

Maxx strong 💪

Sketer for sure ..Maxx handles like a brick even with the wide kit lol

@philthyco1

Жыл бұрын

I told everyone before the new 4s came out that it was going to break chassis..The horizon built 3s rigs break chassis and the new 4s is pushing a 3s chassis to its limits and beyond..Arrma dropped the ball big time by not using the Typhon 6s chassis imo.. Influencers will say its the best most durable rig arrma has ever made but its just not true..My buddy Chris was super mad at me because i told him not to preorder one saying how the chassis wont hold up.. People think i come off as a arrma hater for just speaking facts lol..I like arrma i always have..Im not a fan of horizon though..The 6s line is still great and getting good updates but the 3s/4s uses inferior plastics every since Horizon took over..In my old v1 outcast 4s video i compare the chassis to the hobbico built Senton and its easy to see the difference.. Another good video my friend

Hello Razor😎🥇

I predict he picks the Skeeter

Im not into launching my RCs with unrealistic expectations 20+ feet in the airlol😂, so i say the kraton 4s is best for me. Easiest to drive, best looking, and awesome electronics!!! Kraton for the win!!!

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

They should change their motto to “don’t try to blast it, only bash”

@rexracer7192

Жыл бұрын

@@RazorRC ikr 😂

My Maxx v2 is king at bashing Kraton v2 king on a track Outcast v2 king of Stunts The team Corally I don't own but it looks to hold up good and awesome review .

That's what I don't like about Traxxas is that they say that hobby grade but it's really borderline on toy line everything is plastic and I've never liked the fact that Traxxas uses plastic driveshafts I always seem to break those

Arma outcast 4's

I mean.... 20-30ft jumps landing on flat surface and you complain about the maxx slaping the chassis ? 😅 really ? (Not a traxxas fanboy here but man....)

Best 4s? Tekno Mt410 all the way. Hobbywing max8, Dboots Backflip Lp’s, Futaba radio, Savox servo and a Chevy C10 body. Best 4s ever.

@offthehook8989

Жыл бұрын

Sure...built lol. These are rtr 4s

@letfingerswalk

Жыл бұрын

Love my MT-410, Beast Mode!

@philthyco1

Жыл бұрын

This is a RTR comparison..MT410 is a builders kit of course

@hyster16t

Жыл бұрын

Video title... Best 4s MT. The tekno mt410 is the best 4s MT.

@philthyco1

Жыл бұрын

@@hyster16t Again,The MT410 a kit and guess what? It's not on this list because this is RTR 4s trucks..Sketer might give it a run for the money if built from kit form with diffs/shocks and gearing tuned running the TC 6s system on 4s..But that is here nor there being this is not a builders kit segment

These big ass pricey cars need to come with head lights and rear lights I hate rc cars without lights shit just so plain

Traxxas Maxx is definitely an Untouchable Beast

To me, the extra 100 dollar price tag for the comfort knowing durability is almost a non issue for the Maxx v2. And if it does break, parts are a dime a dozen.

@paulclancy2404

Жыл бұрын

Durability not everything if you're type to improve your skills but one of the only rcs I let anyone use . 💯

@VetteWay2Fast

9 ай бұрын

@Voice - Durability is nice but bottom of the list to most rc enthusiasts. Performance in the particular area they’re going for means more. For me, air control and stunt performance is more important than durability as one can have more fun doing tricks and the occasional broken part is half the fun. I enjoy fixing things, rather rewarding.

Hello. I have a very stupid question... What is the name of the place you drive? I mean is it RC tracks, Motocross, BMX etc? I want to try to get my local politics members to make a similar "track" 😅🤦‍♂

The Arrma 3s is exactly the same vehicle but with a 3s brushless esc and motor. We have 4 3s Arrmas in our group and every time they break. Driving performance is so bad. I hate these cars. The Maxx v2 drives like a boat but is durable. Dont know the sketer in real life.

Going to go ahead and solve the 4S monster truck debate.......Tekno MT410 blows all others so far out of the water its not even close.

kaiju

Lol max!

That thing broke 5 chassis within 3 weeks? Nah, I'll pass. Then I don't trust slipper clutches either. My ranking would be Sketer 1st Maxx second and the Arrma 4s third. But that's just me hehe. Thanks for the video 👍

Seems like there should be an outline for how hard you like to bash and high ridiculously high you jump. I think you’re inadvertently giving the wrong idea on what is the “best” by giving so much to handling in the air. I like jumping and tricks as much as the next guy, I grew up doing this. But how much of the life of the rc is spent actually in the air under control? Maybe 1/4 of its lifespan. Dinging an rc cause it can’t hold up to 500ft scale drops is immature. And I’m a Traxxas maxx guy, I know it can handle some thrashing. But I get more pleasure from getting results I can repeat and see consistently, I know a big part of the market of rc is pointed directly at the guy that loves breaking something every time they drive. That’s just the way they do it. I love watching them, I just can’t do the same to mine.

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

The Sketer handles the worst in the air and the best on the ground and won, so I don’t quite see what you’re saying.

Mt8 is best.

I’m getting a O4 as soon as $400 appears on its price. Skeeter is not in the same zip code to the Kraton or Outcast in performance or smile factor.....

@paulclancy2404

Жыл бұрын

It's alot closer to the performance of a dirtbike lol 😆

Even though Corallys are pretty available including spare parts in the UK, quite a few bashers tried them but broke them to easy. This was mainly the Kronos XTR including the 2022 version, plus a few Sketers. Corallys are not that popular in the UK due to durability.

@philthyco1

Жыл бұрын

You dont own one.. Come on guy.. Saying a few sketers broke then saying they aren't durable is horse shit..The maxx breaks also..Is is also not durable? Smh lol..The UK bashers like Talbot and his flock have a personal vendetta against TC because of Claire fighting with the customer service rep at TC.. Similar to how they all hated Arrma for many years and used to break them on purpose and then call them junk lol

@Luke-en2tk

Жыл бұрын

the Sketer is gaining popularity here in the UK, Custom RC is now doing some really good upgrades for them. I think with some bigger wheels, wide conversion CRC do, plastic links and titanium shock stand offs it's probably as durable as the Maxx then. As Razor RC says you could also put full 1:8th electronics in it. Looking forward to seeing some future builds of these, maybe some different body styles and a wing could look good as well

@philthyco1

Жыл бұрын

@@Luke-en2tk Wait,bigger wheels and wider stance makes it more durable????? Lol..JK man i understand you.. it will benefit from upgraded links and stand offs(small potatoes)..The wheels and wide kit helps for stunts thats for sure..Just changing the wheels on mine and backflips are a breeze..I never changed my standoffs tho..What i did was run foam taped under the body shell ..Works like a cushion no breaks

I want a Team Corraly. One of the only major brands I don’t own a vehicle from. The Skeeter matches what I want the best - but my goodness that body is ugly!

dude do you realize that over 90% of all rcers don't jump there trucks 20-30 ft in the air and do 62 flips. your tests and reviews are solely for the less the 10% of us. plus most bashers have been in the hobby for over 10 yrs +

@RazorRC

Жыл бұрын

you don't have to jump them 30 feet high, that's why I talk a lot about how they drive on the ground, i.e. the Sketer has better handling than the other two. "most bashers have been in the hobby for over 10 years+" -- OK, cool but what does that even have to do with anything?

LOL. Arrma claims the best for tough!

Man I typically love the standard nature of your reviews and comparisons etc. This one not so much. Re value - Re access after a month of part replacement on the others lol. After market for maxx is also huge. I wouldn’t have that Kraton. And that skeeter just isn’t very durable either.

@philthyco1

Жыл бұрын

Sketer is a tank..Buy one you will like it for sure