Bent Lamination
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This brings back memories of when I was a young apprentice. Laminating curved skirting boards, curved staircase strings. I remember we once made curved doors with raised and fielded panels. It’s been a long time since i did any of this so it brought back happy memories. Thanks for the video.
There are benefits to either technique for sure. I've done a bit of steam bending, and if you want the resulting piece of wood to be homogeneous it's definitely an unbeatable method. Though, it does require a bit of overbending as the springback of the wood will make the form different from what you need if you're not careful. Nailing the correct form can require quite a bit of experimentation. With lamination the form you hold it while the glue dries is the form you get, so that's definitely a plus. Great video! Very comprehensive!
Instead of using a compass to lay-out the 1.5" gap / cut line; cut a plywood or sheet-metal circle with a 1.5" radius, and use it to draw the cut line. This eliminates the need to keep the compass perpendicular to a curved line.
Excellent video Marc. This opens the door to using my CNC router to make the bending fixtures quickly and accurately with only my imagination being the limit. I appreciate the information!
BRILLIANT ! On offsetting for the material . I am going to build some nets as Christmas presents , most net builders don’t seem to be thinking about this with sizing the culls. I will be steam bending but I dry clamp for am hour or so then glue up is easier as the pieces are well on their way to holding the new shape. I have learned SO MUCH from you over the years Mark. Big Thank you.
Great video! Have wanted to bend the wood at least one year, but did not know how. Many shows how to bend in steam. You show in an easy and understandable way. Thank you for sharing your skills.
Typically thorough and useful counsel. Great stuff!
5:30-6:15 Thank you so much for showing the other options. So many videos leave it to the novice to either figure out how to make do with their home set-up or bite it and invest in the tools. It can be discouraging when the whole point of searching for a video was to learn how to do something for yourself. Thanks for also not dragging on with endless exposition. Nice, crisp tutorial. Well done.
you are really great at explaining and showing techniques, Marc. hats off. thanks for sharing
Seriously, these videos are awesome and really help me out with my projects!
Very good info on bent lamination Marc! Thank you!
Love this idea! Ive been looking for an alternative to steam bending for bow making. This looks like it could work! Thanks!
Great information Mark!
Always a great teacher!
Great tutorial Marc. Thanks for sharing
awesome, thanks for the tutorial.. hope to try this technique one day.
Great tutorial Marc, thank you.
Great video, Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the advice, I'll try the torsion box idea.
Great video thanks for sharing
As with all your vids - super clear, super helpful. Thank you.
Great work, I always appreciate your skills.
Excellent Video!
Great video Marc. Would be interesting to see trimming and finalizing dimensions on that piece.
Fantastic video. Thank you!
Thank you for making all that effort to make the wonderful video sessions and working at the same time. You're a legend mate. I would love to see a complete working on a Sam Maloof's chair or a rocker. But once again, thanks for your help.
@woodwhisperer
7 жыл бұрын
Like this? thewoodwhispererguild.com/product/sculpted-rocker/ :)
I like parchment paper for preventing glue sticking - I know it isn't always an option, but a nice thing about it is that it is reusable. It is also easy to remove if any of it does stick, though it doesn't stick often, in my experience. Always enjoy the learning, thanks!
Very helpful, thank you!
Awesome video as always, Marc!
thanks! this really helped me on my dt exam!
really interesting thank you !
Great video on bent lamination....thanks
Nice job Marc. That is a cool process. Douglas
this technique is diy friendly, i like it
Great video, thank you!
Brilliant, thank you.
Great Video!
Thanks for the excellent tutorial Marc! Yes, steam bent wood and bent laminations are both wood working techs that I wish to learn more about. However, contrary to the characteristically thorough nature of your video content, GROWN FRAMES didn't even get an honorable mention. A wood forming technique that was once thought by the shipwrights of antiquity, yea! "the ancients", to be the only way to "bend" wood to a shape that should suit the will of it's master' . Of course, it takes a really long time do this. Like, WAY longer than a KZread advertisement. Still, somebody, somewhere has got to be producing "Grown Frames".
@carlosbourdet5415
2 жыл бұрын
don't Grown frames run the risk of creating reaction wood?
Very easily read and understood video, thanks
Thanks a lot man really helped me out!
awesome video , thanks
Great video! Used to watch David Marks do this on Woodworks. Yet to get round to doing it myself, really want to!
@woodwhisperer
9 жыл бұрын
ThisWoodwork DO IT!!! It's actually incredibly fun. Though incorporating those curved parts into a project then presents itself with all sorts of fun challenges. :)
Very useful clip!
thanks for sharing man.. you're good
a good woodworker recognized by the fact that he still has all 10 fingers
Great video. What type of wood are the strips?
How am I not already subscribed to this guy!?! Lets fix that right now!
thank you
Man, your so young and you know so much imagine yourself in 30 years get into everything else if you can inlay, binding, carving(if your aren't already) you got the skills.
how would u clean the edges to flush after removing from mold?
Thank you .
Great inf
GET BENT! wood laminated. You are awesome sir
nice technic, what do you do afterwards to remove all the dry squeezed out glue?
Great video Marc. I really like the packing tape tip. Would appliying the tape to the cleats as well improved the release?
@woodwhisperer
9 жыл бұрын
Michael Olsen Yup. look closely when I'm attaching them and you'll see the light reflecting off the tape. I taped them up before attaching.
Hi great video! How much wood is wasted with the cutting and the planing of the strips?
Thats awesome!
Wow I never thought about lamination, always took my pieces to a larger shop for the steam method, thanks for sharing Mark, have a happy and safe 4th everyone.
I'm a fan from syria,, i have been following your advices for long time. keep it up curly hair
Muito bom parabéns!
It's great tutorial!
Very cool!!
Hello; what wood did you use to make this?
very nice
Question: how much more bend does one need to create to compensate for the , euh, “un-bending” the laminated wood will naturally want to do?
Great video bro
what kind of stop block do you use on your table?
Interesting, I have been thinking about making a lamp with a bent laminated arm. This should help out :)
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I have to say if there is such a thing as a 'sexy' tutorial on wood this way it. I am not even sure what that means, it just had me captivated. Well done.
Brilliant
Great video. A small omission in the discussion of glues. Your coverage of the relative safety of the glues, but did not mention that of the glues you've shown, only the PVA is subject to creep. For a shallow bend like the rocker, this might not be a big issue, but for tighter bends, it can become a problem. You can reduce the problem of gluing the workpiece to the cleats by coating the cleats with paste wax first. In fact, you can use paste wax instead of tape over the whole mold. Finally, for sharper or more complex bends, you might want to use cleats on both faces of the form and on both pieces, so they interlock and keep the two form pieces aligned.
what do you do to get the sides cleaned up? The squeeze out will obviously need to be removed for beautification. I can think of a few methods: sander, planer, band saw, radius the sides. Is there a method you prefer to get your favorite finish?
@georgecrown684
7 жыл бұрын
have a wet /damp rag handy and as soon as you have clamping pressure and squeeze out wipe off the excess...unless you like scraping grinding and sanding off excess glue...then leave it like he did
Good video : sound advice & to the point. I also use packing tape to keep the glue from sticking, but additionally I like to give the tape a thin coating of vaseline oil to reduce the 'sticktivity' further. Just a veeery thin coat, mind ! I apply it with a sponge and wipe it off with some paper so there's just a hint of it left. Works a treat :-)
Great vid marc! Have you tried making laminated drum shells or similar tubular shapes? Also, what band is that in the intro? Sounds like Tower of Power. Funk!!!
I wood use epoxy, but I'm a boat guy. keep up the great work!
Hey Marc, any comments on spring-back? Did you allow for that in the form, or do you not see it that much? Do different glues act differently with that?
@woodwhisperer
9 жыл бұрын
wordsnwood It's something to be concerned about, but it's also very project-specific. Sometimes you can't afford any springback so you cut your laminations thinner. Sometimes the final shape isn't quite that crucial so you roll with what you get. In the case of this rocker, we can tolerate a little springback. And from my experience, the springback is affected more by laminate thickness than glue. But the laminations I've done using the heavy duty glues do seem to have a little less.
@georgecrown684
7 жыл бұрын
it's species dependent too....I do curved wood handrail for a living and the outer piece of the lamination has the detail on it and is much thicker then a 1/4 inch.....we definitely allow for spring back....but if i told you how much you might want to compete with me so you figure it out for yourself with 200-400 dollars worth of bent rail laminations...oh and did i mention you need to allow for how tight the circle is to so you can stay with in the building code tolerances and still have plumb balusters
How long are the rockers you are working on. I am making a semi-maloof style rocker and I have not yet put rockers on a chair. I have made 9 other sculpted chairs, but not a rocker yet. Thank You
Is it possible to Join multiple lamented pieces together side by side?
Really well done video Marc - Is there any advantage to leather over cork ?
@woodwhisperer
9 жыл бұрын
The ShavingWood Workshop hmm...probably not, if you happen to have access to leather that you don't mind sacrificing.
@woodwhisperer
9 жыл бұрын
The Wood Whisperer though the more I think about it, the leather would probably last longer and hold up better.
@TheShavingWoodWorkshop
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marc
@plavix2215
7 жыл бұрын
Why did you wrap the form with foil? To keep the moisture inside?
@SuperChuckRaney
7 жыл бұрын
to keep glue off the forms
great videos, thanks what technique did you use to clean up the sides and excess glue?
@woodwhisperer
9 жыл бұрын
Yannick Pouret I usually use a putty knife to remove the excess before it dries. Anything left after the cure time is sanded roughly with a random orbit sander. From there I joint one side and plane the other.
what clamp did you use?
Great video, the cork looks like a good idea. How would you handle wider boards? I am doing an arch that uses 16 inch wide 1/8 plywood with three layers.
@woodwhisperer
9 жыл бұрын
Michael Bowers I would just build the form higher. You can keep layering plywood or MDF, flush-trimming each layer as you add it to the stack. 16" wide is pretty substantial though so you might need to go with a form that's constructed of ribs instead. So you'd have almost a torsion box style rib structure that provides lots of strength without using tons of material.
What is the stop block called attached to your table saw at 6:05?
Awesome video, I would like to see the full rocker build.
@woodwhisperer
9 жыл бұрын
Justin Martinez Hey Justin. We have the build available in 24 videos over on the Guild site: thewoodwhispererguild.com/product/sculpted-rocker/
Is your workbench banded in purpleheart?!
Good tips Marc have a great 4th.
@woodwhisperer
9 жыл бұрын
Backyard Woodworking You too!
Great information, Marc. Thanks for sharing. On your forms you can also use a center mark across both forms before applying the packing tape to assure they are seated in the correct position when the clamps are applied. I have also made sliding dovetails utilizing plywood cut at 45 degrees to guide the two forms to the correct seating area as the clamps are applied. On a form this size, I would typically use two sliding dovetails. This sliding dovetail method is easier than some would think, but you need to apply wax to the dovetail area each time you utilize the form.
@geometric5103
8 жыл бұрын
+Fine Woodworking of South Carolina Excellent idea; I never thought of that.
Cool new tats Mark.
@woodwhisperer
9 жыл бұрын
***** Thanks Joe. A work in progress. :)
Ok..I admit I didn't watch all of this before I'm going to ask this question, but the 1 1/4 off set. Is that the thinckness of your piece or pieces to bend or is that the eqation to the 42" Circle? If a quation is involved how do I find out the radius factors of equation? Thank You
Would it be worth putting wax paper on the 8 strips?
Nice! I want to build a compound curved slip form for an Aircrete dome home and thought about doing it using bent lam, but I think cutting the pieces out of MDF and using a CNC router would work best to achieve the accuracy for what I'm looking to do. The trouble in paradise is I don't have a CNC! Lol Maybe a CNC company will hook a hippie up.
Woooowww Thank Very informative
I was really excited to see what u did with the wood next and then the video ended!
@woodwhisperer
9 жыл бұрын
earlydawn81 Here's what I did with it. :) thewoodwhispererguild.com/product/sculpted-rocker-bundle/
@earlydawn81
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!
Hola! Do you know how to bend wood on a yoga wheel. I guess you have to overlap the wooden sheets? Sorry my English, it's very bad. Amo estos videos! 🖤
Hi marc will you have the process in which you will clean up this bent piece you have made? Thanks again
@woodwhisperer
9 жыл бұрын
whitewolf8758 No. But if we do a bent lamination on a future project, I'll certainly show the entire process from top to bottom.
Good method of bent laminations. Another, perhaps "dumbed down" version is to approximate the thickness of your material for your negative. When I was building a lot of traditional bows, I did not have parallel laminations and the thickness of the limbs on the bows weren't always the same from bow to bow. So what I did was approximate the thickness and add about 1.25" to it. Then I got 2" fire hose, plugs and an air tip and inflated it to about 60 pounds and that gave me enough pressure to laminate the limbs successfully. That's using Smooth-On EA-40 epoxy though. It's a slick set up for a quick lamination.
Have you seen the Morgan car company where they do this with the rear wheel arches?
Damn!!......some interesting stuff!....