These young tennis background players are joining Pickleball will push the game to another level, keep up senior Pros!

Thanks PPA for sharing this game today instead of a day or two later.

@jcardenas6585

2 ай бұрын

"BIG DONG" Quong is the new man on campus now - Ben Johns has been lucky for quite a few years that no real elite athletes have played pickleball really...You got some part time people who tour half of the time and either just coach or have regular jobs to pay the bills, and then a bunch of old has-been tennis players like old man Rettenmaier and others... PPA is now getting real... more BIG DONG's to come!!! Just the beginning!

Unreal, Quong entered superman mode! Best ATP ever... omg! WTG congrats! Great match both players

@nchambers007

2 ай бұрын

Second best. Pappa Jimmy had the best one. Same shot but backhanded.

@jcardenas6585

2 ай бұрын

"BIG DONG" Quong IS SUPERMAN! he's the new man on campus now - Ben Johns has been lucky for quite a few years that no real elite athletes have played pickleball really...You got some part time people who tour half of the time and either just coach or have regular jobs to pay the bills, and then a bunch of old has-been tennis players like old man Rettenmaier and others... PPA is now getting real... more BIG DONG's to come!!! Just the beginning!

Quong has the best 2h backhand ground drive and counter right now, which generates a huge advantage just like what ALW does on the women’s side. He is very quick in footwork. Without injury, he will likely be top 3 in the singles by the end of this year, and challenge Ben’s top seat next year. The kid is really good.

@dackerman123

Ай бұрын

His ground strokes are insanely good. He can literally put the ball anywhere from any angle

Ben didn't have a bad game, he actually played really well. But man did Quong have some amazing gets, hard hits and a great game all around. He came into this one ready to play hard and fast. Well done!

@nn-NeuralNetwork

2 ай бұрын

Ben did have some uncharacteristic missed returns, but I still think Quang beats him regardless.

@ericrodriguez5458

2 ай бұрын

You can't say someone didn't have a bad game with such a bad return percentage.

@gambler213

2 ай бұрын

Ben made lots of of uncharacteristic unforced errors in this match. It was obvious he was off his game.

@MajorBrev

2 ай бұрын

I’m not a Big Ben johns fan, but this was definitely not a “good” game for him. Idk what you were watching

@jcardenas6585

2 ай бұрын

Bye bye Baby Ben in 2025 - "BIG DONG" Quong is the new man on campus now - Ben Johns has been lucky for quite a few years that no real elite athletes have played pickleball really...You got some part time people who tour half of the time and either just coach or have regular jobs to pay the bills, and then a bunch of old has-been tennis players like old man Rettenmaier and others... PPA is now getting real... more BIG DONG's to come!!! Just the beginning!

I saw Quang play for the first time on the “No Audio” upload of the North Carolina cup against Ben Johns. Literally the second point into the match, I said to myself “this guy is the future of pickleball.” He is an absolute beast.

23:20 that ATP was the equivalent to Steph Curry shooting a 3 from 40ft on the move. The ball placement was impeccable.

Quong Duong puts 100% intensity into every shot. Just amazing groundstrokes. His serve is insane too, made Ben miss a handful of times serving straight down the line with speed, accuracy and topspin. One of the most exciting players to watch. Ben Johns is winning 5 -2 against Duong after this game but I think Duong is going to even it out sooner or later.

@riman1212

2 ай бұрын

I think some of the missed returns can be blamed on the ball as well. Out of round balls can have a high or low bounce especially with a high amount of top spin. Watch how high the ball bounces on some of Ben's missed returns that he sent to the moon compared to the returns he got in. Its bouncing up to waist level or maybe a bit higher. On the other side, a bunch of the returns he sent into the net were bouncing around knee height. Not the only reason, but having experienced similar issues with Duras and hearing Vulcans are an even worst Dura it can result in making aggressive returns difficult if you are not extra focused.

@millisock

2 ай бұрын

Even if the ball bounces unpredictably, it's still the player's fault for not adjusting.

@danieljhoward002

2 ай бұрын

​@@millisockkey word "unpredictable." That is not on the returner. You can not possibly adjust to something you can't predict. The ball is bad and takes funky hops. It affects play negatively.

@danieljhoward002

2 ай бұрын

​@riman1212 you are correct. The ball takes bad bounces. That makes a returner miss.

@iTheGeek

2 ай бұрын

@@riman1212I’ve read a ton of bad reviews about the Vulcan ball. Why is it still being used?

Fantastic match. We’ll be seeing a lot more of this emerging rivalry.

This announcer guy is great, love the enthusiasm and hype he brings (the raspier, movie-trailer sounding guy)

What an Avatar phenomenon. So much fun and sportsman ship. Love it.

I love how Quang’s serve is so good people are like- “That’s illegal! 🤓” 😂

@ruthau7999

2 ай бұрын

So true! I play 4.5 or better they NEVER complain about my serve. It is always the lower 3.0 level that do ... how pathetic!

Young QUONG is a real champion; Great player; Active Aggressive' swift; Very Articulate; Intelligent Player. QUONG is areal Champion LIKE Anna Leigh Walters..! Pleasure to watch them play; very Entertaining.

When was this game? Final is on Sunday , right?

Congrats, Q!!!

Sketchhhhh shoutout!

Love to see it

23:13 You came here for the ATP

There is always someone better!! Insane serves by Quong😮😮😮😮!

Quong dong plays at a totally different pace than ben. Ben's honeymoon period in pickleball is over. Talent is coming. Good for the sport but bad for ben.

@Will-ib7ok

2 ай бұрын

People have been saying this every time he loses for the last 3 years. He tripled crowned last weekend and won his last 3 singles tournaments before this one

@anuraagkumar978

16 күн бұрын

@@Will-ib7ok People want to see dominant players fall but he's number 1 for a reason. He's had essentially at least 6 years of being number 1. He has the power to continue being the top guy. However, it is nice to see athletic tennis players enter the sport.

23:20 🤌🏾 🔥

Quong Duong just became my favorite player

Thank you brother. Sorry for cussing here. ☝️😂

IMO Duong and Alshon are the 2 guys that will be the challengers to BJ. Both have the foot speed and shots and power to give BJ trouble.

Quang makes me want to play Western 👍👍 What's his backhand grip?

Quang is the goat! I'd love to see him play doubles

Correct name is Quang (not Quong)

Am I watching TENNIS... Fun!

he dropped the Special teams special plays special players line at the end LOL so random but that vid is hilarious

Best casting we’ve seen. Miles better that that old annoying guy.

@millisock

2 ай бұрын

Agreed that this was better, but these casters were still biased towards rooting for Ben.

Must be the new Joola Gen 3 Paddle!

Pickleball is changing man… a lot more tennis strategy involved now with western grips and monstrous ground strokes. As a former tennis player I’m so excited to bring my knowledge from tennis to pickleball while learning the fundamentals of pickleball.

Quang playing tennis :D

Great match, I thought you weren't allowed to wear yellow clothing?

@nchambers007

2 ай бұрын

If a player complains the refs can require them use a different shirt so there's decent contrast vs the ball.

5 years from now all American pickleball players will be expectator only

He shouldn’t have problems finding doubles partners now.

Fast is always good

Is this his second win over Ben?

Quong Duong's serves are so good, they're practically illegal! 🎾😂

Ben didn’t play great , I do think that some of those serves were illegal with the paddle above the wrist but he still would have won , he was on fire and his ground strokes on fire. You can’t deny them, his backhand was outstanding. That ATP was unbelievable. Give the kid his due he played fearlessly.

Asian player will dominate pickleball 2 years from now

Get his name right!!! Every time..

Sketch has infiltrated every sport

Why did they blot Diongs face out?

Interviewer: “Reiherating” Duong: “reierating”

Obv. Duong played an phenomenally mobile game with massive power / topspin game and that's what it takes to have a chance against Ben. Ben did play well but it was certainly B game not his A game ... he's played worse at times, that's for sure. He was slightly off on some his split step timing, and he couldn't quite figure out the timing against the heavy topspin - he caught the frame about 6 times on returns and during rallies, which is very un-Ben-like.

Ben just defeated Quang 5 days before this match, and he won gold the day after that. He was clearly off in this match.

what shoes does quang have

@Lucky83...

2 ай бұрын

Same question

@williamduval9856

2 ай бұрын

Looks like bowling shoes to me

24:01 was out

That dude thought he was playing tennis hitting them hard drives and servs all day 😂😂😂

LOL @ the grunting. Really?

for those that dont follow tennis duong was a blue chip player. won the orange bowl in 2021 which is one of the most prestigious jr tournaments you can win. (federer won in 98). crazy thing is, he would not be able to make a living playing tennis. smart choice converting to PB

Banging at its best. Time to get a spiny paddle and switch to semi-western grip.

@WadeGraves

2 ай бұрын

Go for it! Whatever gets the win.

@2musiclover534

2 ай бұрын

What paddle does QD use?

@chubun6631

2 ай бұрын

I believe it's a Vanguard Power Air Epic

@2musiclover534

2 ай бұрын

@@chubun6631 Thanks. I wonder what his shots will be like with even higher spin paddle surface that lends itself to shaping the ball/spin such as the Proton etc.

@chubun6631

2 ай бұрын

Can't speak for others, but for me the main advantage of the semi-western grip is that you can apply the windshield wiper much easier with this grip to generate top spin. I switched from a SLK Halo with a spin rating of ~1700 RPM to a Ballr Pro at ~2000, and it makes a noticeable difference (meaning I got comments from my friends/opponents not just my imagination!) in my banging shots. If you watch QD in his first meeting against BJ, he actually had too much topspin but not enough penetration on his FH drive and got destroyed by Ben. His dad/coach did a good job flatten out his banging. IIRC he did much better in the second meeting, and beat BJ for the first time on the 3rd meeting or something like that.

Wait I thought there isn't a let rule anymore. 15:40 they let

@jisforjoy3314

2 ай бұрын

PPA and pro division.

Was Quong’s serve legal? The arm needs to have UPWARDS motion at contact. His was side sweeping motion.

@zachcarmichael699

Ай бұрын

I call it the 3:30 serve. It's like Tyson McGuffin's. Legal, but just barely.

No way Quang’s serve is legal

Changed out 2 bad balls in the first 11 points. Vulcan sucks.

Not into pickle ball, first watch. The score calling is really obnoxious on this though.

☝🏼Whatzup brother!

Spell his name right smh

@cdpham

2 ай бұрын

It's Quang, not Quong!

@cdpham

2 ай бұрын

Quang (Wan) Duong (Zuon)

quong serve seems to be barely legal, its almost like he is hitting ball dead on, isnt the ball contact point suppose to be below the waist line.

@smilesrykee7067

2 ай бұрын

He's dropping it at the waistline. It's his grip spin and power that let him get away with it. Tyson Mcguffin serves from his nipple for years and no one bats an eye but this is illegal? 😂

@Orangepie86

2 ай бұрын

PPA service rules are different than USAP that everyone else uses. In PPA they only look at arm angle 📐 of the arm holding the ball.

@patrickderyan7403

2 ай бұрын

so in PPA, you can sidearm serve with paddle not in upward motion? Watched more in slo-mo and it is illegal. Cheaters will ruin PB unless this is stopped. Tyson stopped, Ben stopped, Deckle stopped. The Dongster needs to be stopped!

@smilesrykee7067

2 ай бұрын

@@patrickderyan7403 complain to the ref next time you play him

@patrickderyan7403

2 ай бұрын

@@smilesrykee7067 I just might... In the meantime, shouldn't you be getting another booster...? Hey - YOU decided to go there...

I don't think the serve is legal.

@veritech1773

2 ай бұрын

If he is droping ball at waist or below height contact point is at waist or below. Not above

The worst part of tennis has made it to pickleball. Had to stop watching because of the grunts.

Quonq played AWSOME! BUTT - his serve is SO illegal! C'MON ref - that paddle is WAY above the wrist AND half the serves were NOT upward motion. Ridiculous!

@jah.5.

2 ай бұрын

Watch his serves in slow mo. He holds the ball with arm outstretched at waist height and when he hits, the paddle swings up and over his left shoulder. Looks like he complies with the rules. He just has a very fast, low and straight look to it it in real-time, but it is very effective and has some nice spin and drop to it as well.

@patrickderyan7403

2 ай бұрын

@@jah.5. I watched in slo-mo and almost always a portion of his paddle is above his wrist when striking the ball - illegal.

@razrgu3838

2 ай бұрын

If it had been illegal , ref or john would have complained. It’s ok until rules change again.

@bigbear8216

2 ай бұрын

If oppenent serve is really good ppl starting to complain about it.Cmon just play the game ref and Johns find with that

@jah.5.

2 ай бұрын

@@patrickderyan7403 Same with Ben's serve. He also has a portion of the paddle above the wrist when he makes contact. Seems that rule is almost impossible to enforce.

Pickleball needs to part ways with tennis and ban this groaning. It’s obnoxious and annoying.

@danieljhoward002

2 ай бұрын

Athletes grunt when they exhale and exert energy. It's not excessive, it's normal.

Sorry, can't stand to listen to grown men moan in racquet sports

Quong does a beta gay moan when he serve. He also have gay body language movements. It would not surprise me if he was actually gay.

@williamduval9856

2 ай бұрын

Why worry about anyone’s sexual orientation who cares if he is or not, just enjoy game.

@willcollins5660

2 ай бұрын

@@williamduval9856 With all due respect, I can't enjoy the game if a man makes beta gay moans and grunts throughout the match.