Non duality is the natural state of reality. Separation is no-thing experiencing something.

Every single “problem,” every war, money, taxes, ever horror we see is the result of identifying with the mind, the separate self. Greed, hatred and delusion.

I've gotten into trauma healing, and I think that has helped me understand why our minds create a self image and why so many "seekers" have trouble in what is called enlightenment, or letting go of the mind and going back into the natural state of thoughtless happiness and non-separation. And yes, it is the natural state. The thing is, the mind/ego is mostly a defense mechanism and attachment program created in childhood for the survival of the bodily vessel. The consciousness adopts language, identity, and self-image in order to navigate the survival needs of a child body and, sadly, most of us had neglectful parents and live in malformed societies whose acceptance and survival is conditioned upon adopting a fragmented, complex, and inauthentic self image. To let go of the mind often means re-encountering the feelings of abandonment, neglect, loneliness, anger, bodily danger, and sadness of childhood experiences and living, instead, with a strange vulnerability and trust to have our hearts open, and our bodies unprotected by the mental "survival and attachment" programs of the childhood ego. Let's not pretend that this is easy. Is it true that we're not the mind and body? I'd say yes. But is it easy to let go of the primal survival programming of the body-mind? Of course not, especially if there has been trauma, neglect, parental projections and expectations, etc. “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven." This is the struggle. To regain our innate openness, before we adopted a self image, means somehow transcending the survival instinct of the body in a world that has been feeling increasingly unsafe and unaccepting with every passing year. I'm not saying don't do it, I'm saying let's be realistic about what the ego is (a defense and attachment program) and why it's hard to let go of (to live defenseless and unattached as pure awareness).

@eb9450

11 күн бұрын

This was an excellent way of explaining it. As someone who has lived with a complex form of diagnosed PTSD for the past couple decades of adulthood, it has been the biggest hurdle of abandoning the idea of identity

@jonmustang

11 күн бұрын

@@eb9450 I'm glad it resonated with you. I personally think "instant no-self" enlightenment teachings are irresponsible and out-of-touch, in the sense that many of us haven't even gotten a chance to develop a healthy, balanced identity in the first place. Then these teachers are telling people to destroy their sense of identity without any preparation of the psyche, the emotional body, the lifestyle, etc. To me, emotional healing and balance needs to come first, laying down a good foundation for realization. Good wishes on your path, and I hope healing the PTSD is integrated into it

I'm sad that I never got to meet my 'spiritual' teacher. I'm so greatful for your presence in this world Adya. 🙏

How would I love to recognize by experience, that everything is connected and I am not alone

These days many people with bookish knowledge teach non-duality and land viewers in confusion. When questioned closely they get exposed. Personal experience of non-duality is such a rare blessing that one can never find them on social media.

@jonmustang

12 күн бұрын

Yes, a rare blessing and yet also totally natural. We as babies felt some natural "enlightenment" because it takes 1-3 years typically for the mind to imagine that it is a body and is separate from the mother and the world. How cumbersome now as an adult for the mind to let go of its own imaginary self!

Thanks for all you share🙏

All is one, there is not two. You know it already, you know it’s true. You can look and look but there’s nothing to find The truth’s just been hidden by the chatter of your mind. Oneness is here, now - not somewhere above Oneness is All, oneness is LOVE. See it and a smile on your face will appear Your life filled with JOY and nothing to fear.

@muralidharankv169

13 күн бұрын

Very interesting piece of poetry. Are you a poet? “Your life filled with JOY and nothing to fear.” - Does this line describe your own personal life? The truth’s just been hidden by the chatter of your mind. So what should one do? Do you know that there is a similar verse in the Bhaghavad Gita. It says that Knowledge is hidden by ignorance.

@phk2000

13 күн бұрын

@@muralidharankv169 No I am not a poet - but poetry sometimes manifests. What this body/mind/conscious entity has come to see is that the universe is infinite. If it wasn’t then somewhere out there all that dark space would have to end and become something other than space. What could replace the space? Nothing could replace it so it must go on forever - hence infinity. What’s infinite has no boundaries and cannot be measured (or it wouldn’t be infinite.) Infinity doesn’t stop where “you” start - there can’t be infinity + “me.” So all there is, is infinity expressing itself in different shapes and patterns but all of those shapes and patterns never being anything other than THE TOTALITY or THE ABSOLUTE.

@muralidharankv169

13 күн бұрын

⁠@@phk2000Yes. Very true. “But all those shapes and patterns never being anything other than The totality or the Absolute.”. How can one realise this truth? Your poem says that the truth has been hidden by the chatter of the mind. Is there a way out? Please enlighten.

@phk2000

13 күн бұрын

@@muralidharankv169 The question you ask is posed by the mind. It seeks an answer which is nicely defined and finite so it can contain it. Truth is infinite and so cannot be defined in a way that satisfies a mind. If it could be there would be no seeking of course! It is the unbounded, infinite that contains the mind. Feel the sense of aliveness within and see the infinite nature of it. All is THAT. Put simply: All is ONE! Know this, FEEL this, BE this. The rest is just chatter for the mind (which is also the ONE appearing as the chatter of course!)

@muralidharankv169

13 күн бұрын

​@@phk2000Know , feel and be this. How can the finite mind know the infinite? If the chatter is also this, the mind also must be this! So there is no need for any seeking. One can simply do anything because everything is this! Enjoy the sense pleasures because sense objects are also this!

Belief is the only separation program of the demiurge ✊🏽💙💎 in the present heart moment of reality we are all one flowing source energy together 🫶🏽🌊⚓

Belief imprisons you into the subconscious shadow mind ✊🏽💎

Such a good teacher!!

Power of contemplate. Not thoughts

If we say there is no separation, what should we do with our compulsive thoughts? Or with the negative emotions we experience? Just notice as they arise in consciousness? To what extent are we "the thoughts themselves? Or the emotions we're experiencing?"

@clarkkent3730

13 күн бұрын

i use to have the same questions...until now! through fasting and prayer you will increase the holy fire of God within your soul which will in turn melt the intrusive thoughts away until you are still and quiet with no thoughts....perfect peace!

@muralidharankv169

13 күн бұрын

@@clarkkent3730You don’t have any thoughts! That means you are a Self - realised person like Ramana Maharshi. You must start teaching the western spiritual aspirants without any delay.

@youarewhatyourelookingfor4496

13 күн бұрын

A very good question. Helen Hamilton suggests continuing to turn attention towards consciousness. Over and over and over. When washing the dishes, be aware of washing the dishes. When showering, be aware of showering. When folding laundry, be aware of folding laundry. Nisagardatta concurs. Repeatedly turn towards consciousness, be aware of awareness. It’s called practice for a reason too eh? ❤ As we become more interested in consciousness, thinking slows down and eventually disappears. Not my experience as of yet but thoughts have slowed down and they are less believable.

@mpallim5192

12 күн бұрын

Well, my experience I didn't want to ask my boss for permission to attend a conference since I had attended one just a few days ago. But I really wanted to attend it. I have sent two of my colleagues to seek permission instead. They got the permission. My boss called me and asked why I wasn't asking for permission while all the others who had least interest were going. I said yes its a good one to attend. Immediately he asked me to attend it. Few years later, I had least tolerance to some people of a particular division of people. I thought see i am so helpful and friendly with people but not to this section of people. Maybe I have some lessons to learn and I may need to work with these people. Believe me within two days I got transferred to that division. It's the most horrific experience of my thinking though it was casual. I still don't understand how this happened. Can the universe hear my inner thoughts?