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@slaineyme3531

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. It was really good👌🏾

@samuellee8018

2 жыл бұрын

Is there a way to provide artificial gravity on the surface (or subsurface) of Mars with some kind of spinning habitat? It seems fraught with problems.

@davidmacphee3549

2 жыл бұрын

@@samuellee8018 Not really, unless we catch a UFO

@livewellherenow

2 жыл бұрын

Not a video I would share. However, I typically enjoy your videos.

@davidmacphee3549

2 жыл бұрын

@@livewellherenow Yeah it's a little too real.

Mars is one of those places you might want to go to just to say you've been there, but within a few days you just want to go home.

@supertramp6011

Жыл бұрын

A bit like Blackpool…or Las Vegas…..🤣🤣🤣

@Ultra_Ego_Putin

Жыл бұрын

Don’t know who wants to visit a dead hostile rock, earth is a trillion times better

@icadoriogorgeousiano9454

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's like going to Las Vegas.

@daviniarobbins9298

Жыл бұрын

Except once there you got a 8 month wait for a window to open to return to Earth.

@markharmon4963

Жыл бұрын

Mars at the least, is a rest and resupply stop on the way to the greater universe...kind of like San Francisco was a gateway to the Pacific.

Okay, comeback in 20 years and checkout the comments section.

@jcwiggens

2 жыл бұрын

You mean when Elon is still lying about Mars?

@davidmacphee3549

2 жыл бұрын

@@jcwiggens Elon is not lying. He is just really focused. I look out my window Downtown in a big city and think. "Tiny little Humans" made all that.

@jcwiggens

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidmacphee3549 Really focused on lying thru his teeth about colonizing Mars. Those humans made all of that on Earth, BTW. And it's real. Unlike the fake CGI visions of Mars being presented to know nothings.

@brandonhanson9358

2 жыл бұрын

@@jcwiggens bruh what scientific basis u basing your bullshit on ?

@livewellherenow

2 жыл бұрын

@@jcwiggens , credentials please. With photos.

Thank for giving earthlings a good dose of reality❤

@morganangel340

3 ай бұрын

Such a shame... 🥺 I would love to ship all the Elon Fanboys and their Daddy to live on Mars. 🙃

@colinguo5855

Ай бұрын

But do you really need to kill interest in space exploration this early? It's not a bad thing to imagine and think about it. I would argue after we fix our society and planet, we should try space exploration and colonization.

I read the National Geographic for the Moon Landing. They were talking Mars missions in the 1980’s. They got to the Moon so fast, they didn’t realize how difficult not to mention expensive space travel is.

@jackgoodell5574

7 ай бұрын

Chicken Little won't be going Mars. I'm sure you,with free energy and AI ,as smart we already have. I can sure you I do know free energy that good enough to power every on earth ,Mars or Star ship . Robots that can pick up 40 lb on Earth on the moon 240 lb. 1000 robots and 20 humans cresselia 1000 robux that smart as humans 20 humans in one day the robots can work 24 hours a day.. and yes my free energy devices small enough that could a thousands a years of life for the robot . And the robots would be pretty strong Mars 120 lb . I could see about a 200-acre people living on the rim of the dome in there individually pressurize hones caves like structure with their individual gardens connected to their own house . Maybe the dome would have a 50 acres of lake maybe these lizards crawfish frogs. but maybe have a hundred acres of forests maybe about least fifty acres of grassland . Rabbits and squirrels and chickens and goat sheep birds and bees. I'm pretty sure we could get to 300 ft long or 500 ft long manufacturing ships. I know you going to think I'm foolish or for sure it's lie. I think I have come up with a way to to get to Mars in 3 days at 1G gravity. 😂

@jackgoodell5574

7 ай бұрын

I don't want to spend three months 6 months in a Coca-Cola can called a spaceship NASA or Russian might as well not leave the Chinese space can off this list.😂 .

@jackgoodell5574

7 ай бұрын

I think Ganymede it's going to work for me epic Jupiter and the other moons. Mountains I think with the mountains to crater land of ice and rocks .Ganymede would be a pretty crazy place and beautiful. Maybe a thousand acre dome and an artificial sun. Might as well make three artificial suns . I think it would even have a light Blue sky. But with different colored LEDs purple pink yellow skies but I think blue would everyone's favorite . I think 1,000 lb gold vest long way adjusted to Earth's gravity and help stop radiation.

@thothheartmaat2833

4 ай бұрын

YOU DONT TALK MUCH DIFFERENT FROM A BLACK PERSON IN THE GHETTO.. TALK TO THEM ABOUT LIVING LIFE THROUGH CHALLENGES.. MAYBE THEY CAN HELP YOU SOLVE YOURS.. @@jackgoodell5574

@AerospaceEngineering

11 күн бұрын

@@jackgoodell5574 Accelerating at a mere .01g to the halfway point (and then decelerating by the same modest amount) would be enough to go from the Earth to Mars in a few days, not a few months. This is why Elon's stubborn insistence on using chemical rockets is silly - by using a propellant hungry drive, he forces the need to coast almost all of the way and that's where those long travel times come from.

1900 there was a article from "scientists" that humanity will never achieve powered flight :)

@johnbockelie3899

2 жыл бұрын

Mars will be the home of the Borg. Yea, sure ya bet cha.

@wisdomleader85

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have any source as a proof?

@WWeronko

2 жыл бұрын

@dražen g Arthur C. Clark made an applicable quote concerning doubters: "If an elderly but distinguished scientist says that something is possible, he is almost certainly right; but if he says that it is impossible, he is very probably wrong."

@ailfawka6278

2 жыл бұрын

@@wisdomleader85 I was surprised you asked that question. It ain't exactly new knowledge that through out history we have had a fair share of naysayers who insisted humanity wouldn't make it in a variety of ways.

@wisdomleader85

2 жыл бұрын

@@ailfawka6278 Why would you be surprised by my question if you already knew naysayers weren't "exactly new"? It sounds like you're contradicting your own logic.

Perhaps we should try the moon first. At least it's only 3 days away

@CyberJellos

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, having a base on the moon would likely give us a better understanding of low gravity effects on astronauts. It seems nuts to me that anyone would want to go to mars without knowing what the low gravity would do to them. We should definitely establish a moon base before going anywhere else. Astronauts on mars would be stuck there for a minimum of 2 years without any help.

@arthytales9568

2 жыл бұрын

@@CyberJellos better understanding of low gravity dude we have machines that can kinda simulate that.

@informatimago

2 жыл бұрын

There's a big difference between no atmosphere, and some atmosphere, even tenuous. A lot of industry will be easier on Mars than on the Moon. It is even conceivable to adapt some plant or lichen to live on Mars surface, and thus help transform it. But otherwise, indeed, this is an exercise in establishing a entirely artificial living environment. Again, doing that on Mars will be easier than doing that in space station. For one thing, material resources are available on the surface that are not in the empty space where everything would have to be brought in. Mars is the ideal place to do that!

@kanski9

2 жыл бұрын

Artemis Program *Cough*

@IkilledColMustard

2 жыл бұрын

@@informatimago so explain if we do colonize Mars, communication between the two planets are going to be problematic and if you disagree let’s debate, and I know I will win.

Never say never. The outward urge is a very deep yearing. Do not underestimate it. There will always be people who will try. If it were made a national priority, the limitations could be overcome.

@BroadwayRonMexico

Жыл бұрын

The low gravity and complete lack of magnetic field make long-term human habitation of Mars pretty much impossible. Even if the atmosphere, water, and energy issues can be solved, everyone will die of blood clots (due to the low gravity) or cancer (due to cosmic radiation) within 10 years. Without even factoring in gravity, just the radiation alone would make living deep underground the only option, and at that point, we'd be better off colonizing the bottom of our own ocean than Mars (it's more hospitable and at least getting supplies and people there wouldnt take 7-9 months) A manned research facility on Mars (akin to Antarctica) might eventually exist, but not a colony

In Arthur C Clarke's books any humans born on an off earth colony could never visit earth. I think the first challenge to overcome should be creating a propulsion system that could get us there in days or week rather than months. Wouldn't like to get into trouble and the nearest help being a year away.

There is a difference between establishing a permanent base and "colonizing" a place. Look at Antarctica. We have permanent bases there, manned year round by rotating crews. That, however, is not colonization.

@bazzadebear8012

Жыл бұрын

Yes. And it does not take 4 months to get there.

@HansDunkelberg1

11 ай бұрын

You remind me of those people who in the earlier 20th century have depicted helicopters as unthinkable.

@Mrz-sb1hw

7 ай бұрын

Make wormholes send droids to other planets, then send humans to get gold and other minerals.

@stlchucko

6 ай бұрын

@@HansDunkelberg1 Yeah… But are we to ignore that people would have flying cars by the year 2000?

@HansDunkelberg1

6 ай бұрын

@@stlchucko Some, of course, always miss what's going to happen when, in their predictions. Flying cars have been built shortly after WWII, and now at least, one can already buy really interesting types of them. When Freeman Dyson, Arthur C. Clarke, and others of their milieu foresaw manned flights to Jupiter and Saturn in the later 20th century, those men thought of nuclear propulsions and of cabins which in the later 20th century have indeed already been realized, just circling only around Earth, for corresponding durations. One decisive building block for Mars outposts which around 1960 was often still grossly underestimated in the quickness with which it now has arrived has been the progress of computing. This progress is decisive because it enables robotics, especially robotic surgery, so that small outposts become feasible even where one from them cannot speedily reach a big hospital. Also living quarters for specialized personnel of other fields can be saved, with the help of robotics. You'll altogether perhaps become able to radically scale down the size of a population required for autarky, with a help of robots. On Earth, the specialization of technology in its combination with human manufacturing currently requires about a hundred million people for autarky. Building a humanoid robot, though - a robot especially with _hands_ like the ones of a human being - and planting into such a device the outlet of a good-enough computer, it becomes possible to let one such creature do things for which one on Earth until today still needs thousands of different experts.

As Neil deGrasse Tyson said: "If we were able to terraform Mars into Earth than why not terraform Earth into Earth?" (for all here who don't get it: this is meant concerning climate change 😉)

@JFrazer4303

Жыл бұрын

Earth is the planet we'll terraform, removing heavy industry and pollution and restoring a biosphere.

@notayoutuber3518

Жыл бұрын

Earth’s societies don’t have equal goals or rights to do this in a short timeframe. We have more responsibilities here on Earth. Ideally, Mars won’t have the same societal hinderances.

@roberthicks1612

Жыл бұрын

Earth is the planet we need. It does not require us to alter it. Mars is too far from the sun and does not have enough atmosphere. We can and should change that. Venus is too close to the sun and has a sulfuric acid ice cloud 15 miles thick. We can move it and get rid of the sulfuric acid in the clouds. That would make both planets habitable.

@astralclub5964

Жыл бұрын

Antartica at its worst still isn’t as deadly as Mars at its absolute best! And how many humans live in Antartica at science bases? A handful!

@badmonkey2222

Жыл бұрын

I've always said we have the perfect planet right here why not spend all this money and fix it rather than going to some cold dead rock. Elon Musk has always had this weird fetish with Mars. He's going to find out it's going to be a lot harder than the hardest things he could imagine it to be. Just building a space vehicle that that will be safe and efficient enough to get there and back is going to be hard enough. And as hard it is it is for us to even find a planet that's remotely even anything like Earth in anything that we've discovered so far in the universe tells you how rare our planet is and how special it is, every aspect of biological conditions to support life are mind blowing, just watch some DNA or microscopic animations will completely blow you away.

THANK YOU! Finally a sane voice regarding Mars colonization/terraformation. The sad truth is that Mars, despite being the only planet in the Solar System that will not immediately kill you, is thoroughly uninhabitable. And no, it is also not terraformable because it is simply too small of a planet for humans to function in the long term...

@raymondfloyd9046

Жыл бұрын

Send whomever wants to go there. Natural selection. lol

@ericgolightly8450

Жыл бұрын

If it was terraformed, it wouldn't function as an earthlike paradise for billions of people, but rather a hub for travel, science, and would be like a giant space station. The population could live in artificial gravity habitats.

@ebonaparte3853

11 ай бұрын

@@ericgolightly8450 We may not need artificial gravity. We don’t know.

@ebonaparte3853

11 ай бұрын

It is terraformable, actually. And we may be able to function there in the long term. Scientists aren’t sure.

@videowatcher0975

8 ай бұрын

Even a pleasant voice.

I've always said this.. People imagine the worst desert on earth and its infinitely worse than that

@samr.england613

11 ай бұрын

And it's not a hot desert, but a radically, freezing-ass cold desert! With no atmosphere to speak of, no atmospheric pressure (may as well be on the Moon), the "soil", regolith, is a toxic cocktail, and roughly 1/3 earth gravity to boot! Oh yeah, let's all go live on Mars.

@ebonaparte3853

11 ай бұрын

@@samr.england613 Nobody said we would live in the open. We would live in pressurized habitats. There is research underway to see if Martian soil that has been filtered of toxins can be useful for farming. And the lower gravity might not have as much of an effect on humans as microgravity does. Exercise and medical supplements might be all humans need.

@samr.england613

11 ай бұрын

@@ebonaparte3853 Hi Ebon, I never said we'd be living in the open on the surface of Mars, but in pressurized habitats. Problem is, is that the colonists will be imprisoned in those habitats 99% of the time, and when they do go outside, yep, the pressure suit. As far as the Martian "soil" goes (regolith), to detoxify it of the lethal and deadly perchlorates as well as the equally if not more lethal lead, arsenic and mercury, it will take A LOT of water, something that Mars doesn't have readily available! And finally the roughly 1/3, partial earth-gravity problem. This is an unkown, because no one, nobody, has ever lived long-term or EVEN short-term in 1/3 earth gravity. People want to believe that it, "won't be a problem", or will say, "I'm sure humans will be fine in 1/3 gravity", but that is wishful thinking. Remember how the Apollo astronauts had to locomote with that hoppity-hop, side-to-side motion? It's because they couldn't efficiently move forward or back, or to side to side like they could on Earth. They adapted to the 1/6 grav on the Moon. It will be similar for people on Mars.

@HansDunkelberg1

11 ай бұрын

@@ebonaparte3853 What I don't understand is how little the possibility of a production of gravity through rotating, bowl-shaped habitats is mentioned. Would a construction of such habitats have to be too expensive? Don't platforms rotating trains, don't huge merry-go-rounds already exist on Earth, since decades? Has not an MIT professor Dennis Whyte recently achieved a breakthrough on fusion, with a most probably effective plant now being built?

@ebonaparte3853

11 ай бұрын

@@HansDunkelberg1 Maybe we need to research that field more. We may not even need them, if Martian gravity is enough for humans with regular exercise and medical supplements.

Glad to finally hear someone with a realistic view of Mars colonization.

@richardwalker6004

Жыл бұрын

I’m all for exploration but when we start to change what a human is and cross the line to something is , I can’t support that … shit you see how society is today and giving ppl the power to play nature/god is just wrong to me .

@whichgodofthousandsmeansno5306

Жыл бұрын

To some people the most "realistic" view is that the earth is flat. I see it as we can get probes to Mars. We can get people to the moon. Granted the technology has changed so much since the days of Apollo. The least of the problem will be finding volunteers to go. But it makes the most sense to colonize the moon first to prove we can colonize another celestial object. Then, the main problem only becomes a matter of distance. We should be focused on seeing if we can even get humans to Mars but as far as colonizing anything other then earth would it not make sense to try it on the moon first? Screw Elon Musk, he is just a creepy scammer and just takes credit for others pie in the sky ideas even though most of them are implausible epic failures. But he might be able to raise funds and/or expedite the process of colonization or even just going back to the moon for tourism intents. Might as well exploit that if possible.

@getyourgameon1990

Жыл бұрын

I didn't hear anything realistic, he has points BUT they are ALL stuff we can easily overcome and I think we will have the first baby born on Mars in my life time

@ScottBFree

Жыл бұрын

@@getyourgameon1990 there is no practical reason to colonize mars. No matter how bad earth gets, it’s will still far easier and less expensive to live here.

@getyourgameon1990

Жыл бұрын

@@ScottBFree okay practical doesn't mean we won't we would do it just because we can

I will stay on this gorgeous planet called Earth and will never leave it nor will it ever enter my mind to do so. Be my guess, you can have Mars, I’ll take Earth. Thank you.

@antiseize11

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, same here

I think the challenge of going to Mars is much much larger tech problem than going to the Moon in the 60's

@tw8464

5 ай бұрын

Yes it looks to be many orders of magnitude more challenging

The biggest problem is economics. First you have to find an economic reason to go there. The reason I think it is important to have a colony is “Humanity shouldn’t have all its eggs in one basket” as Heinlein said.

Thanks for making a realistic Prorail of science in space; perhaps our energies should be concentrated in making life more bearable on Earth

@thothheartmaat2833

4 ай бұрын

THE ONLY PERSON NO ONE CARES ABOUT.. AMAZING.. HEY EVERYNE.. LETS MAKE THE PLANET WE ALL LIVE ON ABLE TO BE LIVED ON.. I SWEAR THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL SO STUPID..

Guy tells it like it is. Finally someone with a brain

@hyperionzii5889

Жыл бұрын

So this KZreadr is smarter than Elon Musk in your opinion huh? bold statement lol Yea this guy and his computer can definitely see how impossible it is. Elons legion of scientists and astronauts, engineers definitely are wasting their time...they should watch this video and educate themselves lolol!

@millenialmusings8451

Жыл бұрын

@@hyperionzii5889 forget about this KZreadr, I myself am 100 times smarter than Elon musk. The only thing musk is better than me is at conning people, being a psychopath, stealing other peoples work, selling vaporware and snake oil and being a d ick. Apparently, these are the qualities required to become a billionaire today.

@e8media48

Жыл бұрын

Someone with a brain(someone who regurgitates my political/ideological view )

@millenialmusings8451

Жыл бұрын

@@e8media48 haha as if that comment didn’t give away your political leanings lmao. I’m not an American btw so I don’t care about politics in America.

@bb1111116

Жыл бұрын

@@hyperionzii5889 ; Elon Musk is a con artist who is brilliant at raising money. This is good because Musk’s reputation as a tech guru brings in funds which has kept Tesla and Space X alive. And Tesla and Space X have made a lot of progress. Still, Musk has come up with nonsense such as using nukes to melt the Mars ice caps which he knows is a bad idea. But Musk does this to build his brand which again brings money for his companies. Hyperloop and the Boring Company are also scams but they also build his tech guru brand. Back to Mars. The video is wrong because someday, humans will have a colony on Mars. But we are talking hundreds of years from now when that will happen. Why so long? Because the technical problems to build a Mars city are massive. Humanity doesn’t even have a human crewed outpost on earth’s Moon yet. And the Moon is only a 3 day trip from earth and launches to the Moon can be done everyday. By contrast it takes months to get to Mars and launches can only be done every 26 months. - Once humanity figures out how to live on earth’s Moon in a permanent outpost, then getting to Mars will be a next step. But again, that’s a long way from now.

Between this and the interstellar video you are just a bundle of optimism.

Hope the downvotes don't bother you. What you're saying is totally legitimate and people should hear it. Liked/subbed.

I think exploring, expanding, and embracing challenges is the most human thing we can do.

@finalfrontier001

2 жыл бұрын

but truth is you can't

@ethanwright2278

2 жыл бұрын

@@finalfrontier001 wow, thx optimist

@jaybee7075

2 жыл бұрын

It's ok negative people can fuel the fire of fact ,videos like this just feed the fuel for the rockets for the fire to burn

@thehexedcoin1517

2 жыл бұрын

You forgot one thing, being idiotic and somehow surviving despite horrible situations

@erichayes2890

2 жыл бұрын

I agree completely.

"Elon Musk thinks mars is like earth" Really? Does he?

@donberry6079

2 жыл бұрын

The guy is a fruit loop.

@timminh468

2 жыл бұрын

Elon meant it can be made into like Earth, not that it is currently is like Earth.

@arulrajahjulian2176

2 жыл бұрын

You think negative Elon thinks positive Human(Nasa) already landed unmanned rover in Mars successfully it's a milestone I hope SpaceX will send manned starship to mars successfully

@sakesithole6295

2 жыл бұрын

No he doesn't

@johnbockelie3899

2 жыл бұрын

Cave man " I've invented the wheel !!!". Neanderthal " Those young show off punks!!!".

What a great start to having a rational conversation about both Mars and this conversation can also be applied to a moon experience. Both the Moon and Mars have NO magnetosphere. For those who don’t know, this is the very thing the shields a planet from solar winds and radiation. It also helps retain most or almost all of any atmosphere. So even if you made a perfect system for terraforming a planet and got it there, the lack of a magnetosphere would just rip away all of your efforts, period.

We cannot overcome the low gravity and the lack of a magnetosphere.

@leecowell8165

Ай бұрын

Exactly. We ain't designed to survive in a place like that.

Attempting to live on Mars is suicidal. I don't think the reward justifies the risk.

@silverhawkscape2677

Жыл бұрын

Wrong. Once Earth Begins to run out of Ore. We'll start mining the moon, then Asteroids, than Mars. It's not a Question of If but When.

@thegeop5906

Жыл бұрын

@@silverhawkscape2677 Industrial reasons to spoil seem ok. This could be handled by robots. But not colonizing.

@silverhawkscape2677

Жыл бұрын

@@thegeop5906 Nah. At the distance between Mars and Earth, you'll need humans on the Planet. Signals will be delayed anywhere between 5 to 20 minutes depending on the time of year. Try doing any emergency repair when you are minutes delayed. Thankfully, humans can stay in a Bunker while Robots control the surface remotely.

@JFrazer4303

Жыл бұрын

@@silverhawkscape2677 Mining of Mars for resources anywhere else is a silly idea. More silly than a city/colony on the planet. The NEAs offer enough to end the relevance of the scarcity model regarding energy or raw resources or room for growthy. We know of 1400 NEAs more easily reached than Mars, 400 more easily reached than the Moon, 40 or so easier than Lunar orbit. And from meteorites we know that the resources at an asteroid can be far _far_ better than the Moon.

@fudgedogbannana

Жыл бұрын

@@silverhawkscape2677 Once humans leave the magnetoshpere of Earth they begin to die.

ask the defunct "Mars One" candidates, they were happy for a one way trip

@cohenrickard5282

2 жыл бұрын

I think you underestimate peoples willingness to die.

@Leo.Wirabuana

2 жыл бұрын

deep down under, they are somehow desperate, and like to have epic way to die, at least.

@jcwiggens

2 жыл бұрын

The guys behind the project were happy to take the sucker's money. Just like the current space hotel scam.

@stephenpowell653

2 жыл бұрын

@@cohenrickard5282 did the European settlers say that about America when they colonised there

@richard--s

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenpowell653 they had oxygen, wood, animals, plants, everything on the new continent.

I will agree with a lot of these points, but it is absolutely inevitable that we will eventually go to Mars. Maybe not to colonize it but to visit it for the well being of scientific innovation. In my opinion we need to at least try to make Mars a home.

@tomlorenzen4062

4 ай бұрын

Give me 1 GOOD reason.

@noahtheguy1828

4 ай бұрын

@@tomlorenzen4062 We shouldn’t put all our eggs in one basket. Mars could be a good option should something happen to Earth.

@tomlorenzen4062

4 ай бұрын

@noahtheguy1828 Mars is a terrible option, not survivable #1 #2, whatever problem that arose affecting life on Earth would more than likely be affecting Mars, aka Sun enlarging etc...There is no feasible way to establish life on Mars. It's a fantasy

@jamesfrench7299

3 ай бұрын

You haven't thought this through or listened to the video.

The head says no but the heart says yes. Can't help it.

@ericgolightly8450

5 ай бұрын

We used the head to follow our heart. That's how we got past every challenge we've had.

We are explorer's! The purpose of life is to live it, to taste experience to the utmost, to reach out eagerly and without fear for newer and richer experience!

@itheuserfirst3186

2 жыл бұрын

There is no purpose to life but the one you create.

@sakesithole6295

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!

@sakesithole6295

2 жыл бұрын

@AyitaEstrella well that's you

@miracleman8022

2 жыл бұрын

Rather stay at earth

@SuperDarkMan12TV

2 жыл бұрын

@@itheuserfirst3186 Atheistic nonsense. There is a purpose to life and that is God given.

I seriously doubt Musk thinks Mars is like Earth...

@sakesithole6295

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't know where did they get that from

@pixel6698

2 жыл бұрын

@Michael Orlow Living on Mars is a bloody awful idea. At most we will have an ISS-like presence on Mars with Astronauts staying for around a year before coming back and being replaced with a different crew

@markg.7865

5 ай бұрын

Let Musk go and stay on Mars, I'll stay on the this beautiful blue globe.

@morganangel340

3 ай бұрын

@@markg.7865 I would love to ship all the Elon Fanboys and their Daddy to live on Mars. 🙃

@markg.7865

3 ай бұрын

@@morganangel340 I agree with that!

The problem with saying never is that you have forever to be wrong.

@Maltebyte2

Жыл бұрын

I could be wrong but comeback in 1000 years and there will be us or bots on mars.

@toddsmith5715

Жыл бұрын

@@Maltebyte2 I think you're right, but I'd bet it'll be more like 200. Of course, we'll first have to harness life extension technology to see if I'm right, lol.

@Maltebyte2

Жыл бұрын

@@toddsmith5715 Yeah try get me some of that tech xD and I know all the things they say in this video are correct about mars and its not easy! But imagine telling someone in 1500s we will land on the moon and we will be able see and speak with anyone on planet earth! I know they thought it was a disk. I think Humans and whatever else companions we are creating AI Cyborgs they will find ways to leave earth and live else where! im sure of it!

@planets9102

Жыл бұрын

I think Mars will get a scientific outpost at some point and the main population centers in space will be the moon, it's by far the easiest place to establish a base and could, in the long term make an amazing space port. Later also the asteroid belt, great place to mine rare resources to sell. Also there's some evidence that you could form higher quality semi-conductors in 0g. In that case I could also see space factories around the moon or in the asteroid belt. None of this involves mars however. Mars has nothing the earth doesn't have. It'd probably be like Antartica, some scientific outposts but uninhabited beyond that.

@donkey3187

Жыл бұрын

@@Maltebyte2 lol...waaaay less than 1000 years

It’s depressing enough here on Earth. I wouldn’t trade that to be in a depressing hole on Mars.

The biggest evidence against martian colonisation is the fact that we still don't have permanent human settlements in Antarctica. When we'll start having cities in Antarctica and not just research stations then can we start talking about other places. And even then there is no practical need to go to Mars. We need significant advances in med tech to start with in order to handle the problems of Mars. Long story short sorry The Expanse ain't gonna happen soon.

@DavidinSLO

Жыл бұрын

Antarctica is the Garden of Eden compared to Mars

@JFrazer4303

Жыл бұрын

It's easier to build an O'Neill habitat in space than a city on Antarctica. Free energy and free superior resources are readily available among the NEAs. No worries about pollution, as with inhabiting Earthly deserts or oceans or Antarctica. We need a university city/resort in an O'Neill habitat in Mars orbit, and a branch of that base down on the planet. Another one among the moons of Jupiter and Saturn. There are no new inventions needed to build for virtually Earth-like conditions anywhere off-Earth where there are or to which we bring materials. No, the cost isn't outrageous (not compared to soft-landing on Mars everything for Musk's million person city). The '70s NASA Ames space settlement studies said that cost over ~30 years until the first habitat is done is like any other large infrastructure or industrial development down here. We'd have had the first small habitat by ~'08, along with all launch and in-space infrastructure to reproduce it.

@michaelrwhelan2669

Жыл бұрын

There hasn’t been even a successful sealed colony on Earth! Check out the Biosphere fail

@talasattila6401

Жыл бұрын

There is an international treaty against annexing Antarctica by any country, so in consequence it can't be colonized

@johngeier8692

Жыл бұрын

The artificial biosphere problem still is unsolved. At this stage I could envisage a small research base on Mars. This base would be dependent upon supply ships from Earth. Supplying basic oxygen, food and water and power for even a small research base would be difficult.

Your mindset is based on current capabilities. Back before our current level of understanding and technological capability naysayers like you said we would never achieve what we have now. Naysayers are those individuals always pulling people down and back.

@chrisdonish

Жыл бұрын

We know what mars is, we have a good understanding of the planet and its climate and what is possible with it. Colonization is not an option, theres no reason to attempt it.

@Frendlu

4 күн бұрын

When something was done, was because it was posible and had some reason for to do it. Going to Mars, at this day, its so fútile as going to visit the Titanic. Its posible, but thats all. You want to do the same as Stockon Rush firing everyone that tell you that is a suicide mission?,, do it, but dont blame later when this ends as a disaster, when everybody told you the dangers before.

Would a heavy lead lined suit help the body experience earth like gravity? Keep the body stronger?

Very important your video. Is any chance that you could make an upgrade of this topic, with all the new information as today, 6/12/22. Thank you.

Humans used to sail numerous months on rat infested ships surrounded by endless water. There’s always a special breed of people that are psychologically designed for this kind of harsh living.

@jaybee7075

2 жыл бұрын

They are very rare indeed

@888jackflash

Жыл бұрын

This is all EXPONENTIALLY more difficult than sailing a leaky ship across the Atlantic.

@reidmalenfant8346

Жыл бұрын

@@888jackflashOur technology is also exponentially more advanced as well. Regardless to say, the analogy to the human grit needed to overcome these obstacles till remains.

@yeshuasage3724

Жыл бұрын

😂 dumb comparison Sailing the oceans is a wee bit different to sailing space and landing on an inhospitable planet

@reidmalenfant8346

Жыл бұрын

@@yeshuasage3724 The scale of the dangers involved are just as injuriously proportionate because of their level of technological development and the challenges they faced at the times.

You are talking in a caveman's perspective in regard to Mars' harsh conditions, we are in the nano age.

@robcoyle5011

2 жыл бұрын

No magnetosphere- the terraforming would need plate tectonics and a molten core in order not to be lost into space. This is what occurred on mars in the first place. Sorry but their analysis is correct.

@superhero6297

2 жыл бұрын

@@robcoyle5011 As buddy said above we are in the Nano Age we are taking very great leaps in Moore’s law. We can and will use CRISPR and nano bots to alter the human body to deal with the issues of MARS Elon’s Musks Boring Company will dig and actually figure out what happened to Mars not what some cat thinks happened don’t even know jack shit about the ocean let alone even places on earth still anomalies that scientists can’t explain but sure they know what’s popping on Mars 😂

@mrminiyo4295

2 жыл бұрын

@@robcoyle5011 one point out of all of them

@timminh468

2 жыл бұрын

@@douglasnorth4703 , incase you haven’t noticed, nano technologies is not the only thing we have we have other tech advancements as well.

@timminh468

2 жыл бұрын

@@douglasnorth4703 , So you can't figure it out yourself, and needs facts and proof to convince you that Nano technologies aren't the only things we have achieved?? I'm done with you it's mind boggling.

I would never say never, we don't really know what technology will be like a thousand years from now or even further into the future, but I do feel confident Mars will not be colonized any time soon for anyone alive on earth today to see.

What movie is it that's shown just after the 5 minute mark? I've seen it in a few videos now. TIA ! :)

People have always said: “we will never do this” but we always ended up doing it, people thought it would take thousands of years to fly and take teams of scientists, but the wright brothers did it in a short amount of time, they said we’d never land on the moon, but we did it

@Machielovic

2 жыл бұрын

we will land on Mars but living there hum

@Withnail1969

2 жыл бұрын

@@Machielovic We won't land there either. There isn't going to be the money for any such stunts in the future.

@fightingforthefuture2941

2 жыл бұрын

I said I would never download tiktok but I did, lol

@odalv316

2 жыл бұрын

Be realistic. Visiting Mars is one thing but colonizing it, it's a completely different thing.

@Withnail1969

2 жыл бұрын

@@odalv316 its out of the question, it would take most of the world's economic output for the foreseeable future, if even that was enough.

It’s the best hand we have been dealt for a stepping stone for our journey into the universe

@NowanInparticular

2 жыл бұрын

There are moons that would give us fuel, oxygen & a gas giant to slingshot around on our way out.... That sounds like a far better stepping stone.

@lineaneumann9141

2 жыл бұрын

Love this comment

@michaelskywalker3089

2 жыл бұрын

I tend to agree with you. Attempting to establish bases and "settlements" on Mars provides a focused goal that might lead to a vibrant solar system economy and exploration of the stars close to us and transiting objects. The O,Neil cylinders, orbital stations and bases on the Moon and other small objects like Ceres may become more important in the future. It is only vital that we try to venture beyond the Earth, to ensure the conscious witnessing of the universe and exploration of space.

@jazzunit8234

2 жыл бұрын

​@@michaelskywalker3089 distant missions its existentially better using completely autonomous robotic systems setting up habitats

@rulingmoss5599

2 жыл бұрын

@@NowanInparticular True, but those moons require much more time, deltav, and technology to get to when compared to the relatively close mars, unless you're referring to our own moon.

I agree. When you look at the difficulty involved in leaving and returning to Earth with its atmospheric complications, the thinner atmosphere of Mars will only make it a little easier, also you would have to have a space port set up there to handle the launch of large rockets to escape the planet and return vehicles for resupply. As the Moon has no atmosphere, you could basically orbit as long as you remain above the highest land object, so landing and returning from there was a much easier task. The only way I think it will happen is if it was a one way trip and those who went there stayed there, the only space trips after that would be for re supply in spacecraft that never had to leave again after the trip there.

Right in every aspect. There is no comparison possible between any achievement so far and the prospect of leaving earth.

@ericgolightly8450

5 ай бұрын

Right except for the "Never" part.

I agree with the Vid. As one of my professors once pointed out, If we can't live in the oceans because it's too hard, then no way we'd be able to live off on Mars.

@arthytales9568

2 жыл бұрын

Those are very different things

@SalmonFeet

2 жыл бұрын

Mars dosent have crushing pressures or bioluminescencent fish dipshit

@razormilkyway8444

2 жыл бұрын

Except we actually bring gizmos to mars with us. Ocean people live with.. raft and fish?

@razormilkyway8444

2 жыл бұрын

Its easier to live on Mars. I mean you dont have to swim all the time

Never say never.

Is there anything on the moon for people to go and spend time up there and the moon is but a short distance compared to anything in space.

These are all good points.

It was difficult to follow lockdown rules and wear masks in coronavirus but we still dream of settling on Mars. There is a very little chance that we'll ever colonize Mars.

@razormilkyway8444

2 жыл бұрын

Its easier to wear spacesuit than mask, trust me:)

@angelainamarie9656

Жыл бұрын

@@razormilkyway8444 yeah I don't see any of those qanon idiots managing to have the self control and self discipline required to survive in a hostile, almost-airless environment if putting a mask over their face was too fking complicated.

@skurinski

Жыл бұрын

lol found the low IQ tard

@marlonbryanmunoznunez3179

Жыл бұрын

@@razormilkyway8444 So you enjoy wearing a diaper to carry out your physiological needs for hours at a time? That sounds significantly more unpleasant than wearing a mask.

@ericgolightly8450

Жыл бұрын

It will take a lot of preparation and planning, so it won't be 2040 when we get them there, more like 2100.

The first time I disagree with you :| I never knew this would come. I believe that we will colonise Mars and will TERRAFORM it. We cannot do it now but we aren’t in the future yet are we? I believe we will discover it.

@dr.michaellittle5611

2 жыл бұрын

You can’t terraform a planet that lacks a magnetic field because the field protects the loss of any atmosphere and also would insulate inhabitants or farms above ground from cosmic rays. Won’t work, unless your view is subterranean terraforming.

@MartinBVDK

2 жыл бұрын

@@dr.michaellittle5611 there are theoretical ways around that, those ways might become practical one day. I'm not saying they will, just saying, never say never.

@skepticsapiens4149

2 жыл бұрын

@@dr.michaellittle5611 really true and I think we should first colonize Arctic and small asteroids to gain experience.

@skepticsapiens4149

2 жыл бұрын

It's a planet. It will take a century to terraform it

@skepticsapiens4149

2 жыл бұрын

It will happen in distant future in late 22nd century

Interesting!

I liked the closing words of the video it was encuraging

I don’t like the anti-progress argument that we have to solve ALL our other problems (will never happen!) before we achieve something new. It’s a huge mistake to make assumptions based on our current technology when technology is accelerating the way it is. Mars will happen very soon and many people will be ready for the adventure...

@distantthunder12ck55

2 жыл бұрын

This video completely misses the point about why we should strive to colonise Mars asap. Of course it will be hard, many tough challenges, people will die too, but it's why we are not living in caves that defines the human spirit and nature. Someday we want to reach the stars, be amongst them, someday Earth will be no more. Imagine if life on Earth was unique, imagine how precious that would make it and how important it would be to spread it to other worlds.

@donberry6079

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry Eagle. The earth and govt. have much more pressing problems. It is not going to happen, at least in your or my lifetimes. Star Trek is a hopeless fantasy. No wars, disease, poverty problems on Earth. Horse feathers.

@nightlightabcd

2 жыл бұрын

You watch way too much science fiction and way too naive! Mars will never be habitable by humans for the same reason it is not habitable now!

@juanfermin1841

2 жыл бұрын

​ @Don Berry I'm glad it's not up to you to decide.

@distantthunder12ck55

2 жыл бұрын

@@nightlightabcd Clueless, making sweeping statements about "never" is totally anti-human and all that we are. Once people thought we would never fly, let alone land on the moon. You have zero clue about what technology we will have in 100 years from now. Never, what a joke! Our technology of today is like magic to anyone living 2000 years ago. Of course we will colonize Mars and Venus at some stage, terraform both.

I don't think we will ever "colonize" Mars on a large scale, but I do think we will have several small sites populated by scientists studying the planet and the people supporting the colony. These "colonies" will need to be fairly self-sufficient and will populated by people who have chosen to spend the rest of their lives there. As far as large-scale colonization, it is just too dangerous and expensive to move people and supplies from earth (or the Moon) to Mars.

@hubertwalters4300

4 ай бұрын

With all of the problems caused by radiation, such as cancer the rest of their lives may not be very long.

@johnhitz1185

3 ай бұрын

That's utter nonsense. Mars is uninhabitable. You are just fantasizing without any idea of what you're talking about.

@stephanledford9792

3 ай бұрын

@@johnhitz1185 You are correct - Mars is uninhabitable, which is why I said there would never be anything but small research sites populated by scientists and support personnel there. Same with the Moon or any other planet / asteroid in our solar system.

Totally agree, we humans were designed specifically to survive and live on the earth, and even in precarious circumstances...

@ericgolightly8450

Жыл бұрын

Some guy climbed a mountain without a rope once. It's only a matter of time and preperation.

@morganangel340

3 ай бұрын

@@ericgolightly8450 I would love to ship all the Elon Fanboys and their Daddy to live on Mars. 🙃

Colonizing Mars is like making Gundams, or Autonomous flying cars. These technologies might be possible but they’ll never be practical!

The temperature on parts of the equator goes from more like -70c to 10c each day, which makes those places warmer than inhabited areas of Siberia during their winter.

@fightingforthefuture2941

2 жыл бұрын

Or Antarctica, people live there in research stations. Maybe that will be a great place to experiment with living in extreme temperatures.

@infini_ryu9461

2 жыл бұрын

@@fightingforthefuture2941 No one moves to Antartica for a holiday destination, though. It's got a research center, that's it.

@aaronnunez9870

2 жыл бұрын

@@infini_ryu9461 And that my friend, would be the basis for a Martian outpost.

@DALKINION

2 жыл бұрын

In canyon and valley areas along the martian equator temps can get upwards of 20°C

@infini_ryu9461

2 жыл бұрын

@@DALKINION So you build your society around wildly fluctuating temperatures. Somehow I think that'd be ridiculously inefficient and a nightmare for maintenance workers.

Notions about terraforming Mars run into a huge problem: lacking a magnetic field, nothing will prevent the solar wind from scouring off any upper atmosphere created by somehow injecting bazillions of tons of Oxygen (generated how, and using what raw materials as reagents?). Humans would have to keep those generators going forever. We're lucking to have the protection our magnetic field gives us, but but Mars doesn't.

@heronimousbrapson863

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention tha Mars has insufficient gravity to maintain an atmosphere of required pressure.

@daviniarobbins9298

Жыл бұрын

Unless a technology is invented that we can create an artificial magnetic field on ships for travel between planets and on a planetary scale.

@chatteyj

Жыл бұрын

@@daviniarobbins9298 I heard an idea about using the Lagrange points around Mars to space man made magnets to create an artificial magnetic field, but sounds bonkers to me.

@hendreeks2585

Жыл бұрын

I mean an artificial MS wouldn’t have to cover the entire planet it would only need to cover the diameter of the sun at whatever orbit it’s at, also generating power is pretty simple considering the device is literally used to intercept solar radiation.

@iamtheiceman

Жыл бұрын

This is the biggest reason why humans could never live on Mars. With no magnetic field to protect it, we would be suffer from deadly solar charged particles as well. Any CMEs would bombard the planet and kill anyone on the surface. Mars is a bad investment for human colonization. It simply can't support life without a proper magnetic field. Period.

Good Points, However, I have a few Counterarguments for Space Colonization: 1. We don't have to start with Mars. Building a Moon Base first is a Much Better Idea. a. A Moon Base could help Us Practice for a Mars Base. b. The Moon Is much Closer, with days of Travel Time instead of Months. c. We could use ISRU to Extract Resources(Iron, Aluminium, Sillicon, ect...) from the Moon to Construct Space Stations around Earth, Ship back to Earth for Profit OR Turn Into Fuel for LEO Refueling(Thermite, Hydrolox). d. The Technologies that would be Developed in order to Colonize Space (Water Reuse, Efficient Hydroponic Farms, Space Mining, Space Refining, Space Construction, Radiation Shielding, ect...) Would be of Great Benefit here on Earth for Everyday People and the Environment. e. Later down the line, when we have a Large and Growing Moon Base, we Could Build Comfortable O' Neill Cylinders with Earth Gravity and Comfortable Human Habitation. f. This Lunar Industrial Base could Construct Large thin Solar Mirrors/Shades or Power Satellites. These Could be Used to Regulate the Climate/Weather and Beam down Power to the Earth's Surface. This Could Finally make a Moon Base Fully Profitable and Kickstart an Interplanetary Economy. 2. As with the Moon, Asteroids might also be a Better Place for Colonization Instead of Mars. a. Both the Moon, Mars and Asteroids have Little to no Atmosphere Environment Blasted with Radiation and Extreme Temperatures. So there aren't really any Pros or Cons for any when It comes to this. b. It could be Possible to Mine Near-Earth Asteroids and Bring the Materials Back to Earth. Either to the Surface to Sell for Profit, or in Orbit/ to the Moon Base for Needed Materials. c. One Could also Use these Materials to Construct Huge O' Neill Cylinders Instead. These are Basically Giant Spinning Metal Cylinders Filled with Air, Water, Dirt, Flora & Fauna to Make them Relatively Earth-like and Comfortable. 3. Terraforming Mars for Colonization is a Dubious Idea. It would Take Thousands of Years of Hard work, and so Much Infrastructure and Resources that to do It would Require that an Interplanetary Economy Already Exists. If we are going to Colonize Mars and the Rest of Space, we are going to do it inside of Self Sufficient Surface Bases, O' Neill Cylinders, Pioneering Space ships, ect... Yes. Space is an Unnatural Place for Colonization, but Humans have an Indominable Pioneering Spirit. We aren't Meant to go here, but we'll do it anyway. 4. The Reason I've Been Avoiding Mars is Because it doesn't Really have Good Economic Value EXCEPT for: The Mars Moon Phobos. It Could be mined and have large Space Tethers Built out of it. The one End would Dangle Just above the Atmosphere, Reducing Fuel Costs to to and From the Martian Surface. The Other End would Fly Thousands of Kilometres High up above Phobos, allowing us to Yeet Spacecraft to other Places at Great Speed, Reducing Flight Times. Spacecraft Could Also be Intercepted by this Tether and Be Pulled down to the Near Surface, Also Reducing Filght Times and Fuel Costs. Though, these Pros could be Negated If/when good Fusion Propulsion Systems are Invented. 5. I think that the Reason why we still Haven't Colonized the Entire Planet, Yet want to Colonize Space are the Following: a. With Places Like Antarctica, Sahara, the Ocean Floor or the Peaks of Mountains it is, that there Simply aren't any Economic Benefits for us with our Current Technology to Colonize these Places. b. For Example: The Sahara is a Huge Desert, and Spending Billions in Dumping water there to Terraform it are Dubious, because the Costs of the Water Greatly Exceed the Money Generated by the People Living there. BUT, if we Built a Moon base and Set up some Solar Mirrors/Shades to Cool the Desert down and Increase Precipitation, or Used Power Satellites to Greatly Decrease Energy Costs, then It might be Feasible to Terraform the Deserts. c. Places Like Antarctica or the Ocean Floor will Probably stay Barren for Quite some Time. This is Simply Because there is so much Livable Land on Land that there isn't a good Reason to Colonize. While Space Colonization on the Other Hand, could Open up the Door to Huge Energy Abundance. Huge Resource Abundance. Technological Progress (see ISS). ect... So It can clearly be said which is the Better Option for Humans In the Long Term. d. Btw it's Cool. 6. Assuming a Space Economy can be Created that's Similar to what I've been Painting with my Arguments, Actually Colonizing/ Terraforming Mars Become Viable Options. Sure, it doesn't have Huge Economic Value, but It Surely has the Resources Needed to Sustain itself. And Such an Undertaking Becomes Relatively Easy once you are an Interplanetary Civilization. TLDR: The Moon Is a better Option bc Proximity, Practice and Economic Value. So are Asteroids. Earth-like Space Habs could Be built with Asteroids. The Mars Moons could be Used for Quick Interplanetary Transport. Space Colonization has More Value than Ocean Floor Colonization. Sources: Moon ISRU: space.nss.org/l5-news-the-value-of-the-moon/ Space Tethers: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lqWr0rOaotWqp84.html ISS Improvements to Life: www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/news/iss-20-years-20-breakthroughs/

Agree with Neil. Here are some simple steps to do in increasing difficulty to achieve before Mars colonisation. Note that Mars is exponentially more difficult. 1. Colonise Central Australia. 2. Colonise Mojave Desert 3. Colonise Gobi Desert 4. Colonise Sahara Desert 5. Colonise Atacama Desert 6 Colonise Antarctica 7. Colonise Moon 8. Colonise Mars (good luck you will need it)

Humans are perfectly adapted to Earth. Almost everything planned for colonization is an inconvenient or dangerous version of what we have here. Let the robot landers do the exploration.

@JIRKA_Praha

Жыл бұрын

Can't agree more.

@terrylandess6072

Жыл бұрын

Yes, we evolved to survive in our current ecosystem and have dabbled in artificially created living spaces for short periods. Just like our 5 senses were evolved for life on earth, we won't ever see the bigger picture (extra dimensions, etc.) because other than 'math', there is no other way to experience things outside the realm of our reality.

@visitante-pc5zc

Жыл бұрын

We live in a blessed and beautiful planet which turns out to be flat

@JIRKA_Praha

Жыл бұрын

@@visitante-pc5zc lol

@urbanimmortalculitvator6652

Жыл бұрын

we are adapted to this current 'earth' environment. Nothing to say it wont change drastically

Yeah, the Martians will colonize Earth! 😎

@superkartoffel7479

2 жыл бұрын

Lol I'm from Mars I can confirm that our colonization fleet will be sent to Earth in the next 7 years

@wellardbr

2 жыл бұрын

Tak! Tak!

@Spooferish

2 жыл бұрын

Recent papers says possiblity of life started on mars and then came to earth. Also humans do consists of some particals of Mars. So we are martiians.

@DiegoRYT

2 жыл бұрын

in some point..if we do not get to terraform entirely but still manageable to live there without equipment i do believe "evolution" will have a part and could be having two Human Species going on..Earthlings and Martians...

@verifiedpe8131

2 жыл бұрын

@@superkartoffel7479 where they hiding? 😂

The low atmospheric pressure is actually a good thing when you’re talking about low temperatures as it means there is less convective cooling occurring, leading to an easier time remaining warm.

@citizenstranger

Жыл бұрын

even so, im pretty sure it wont exactly be toasty.

@The1Jebrim

Жыл бұрын

@@citizenstranger You’d be surprised. Spacesuits and ships actually focus more on how to remove excess heat rather than how to keep things warm. Your body and computers and other equipment generate heat that need to be radiated out into space.

@samr.england613

11 ай бұрын

I don't think you know what the hell you're talking about.

@HansDunkelberg1

11 ай бұрын

@@The1Jebrim Alas, on Mars you have the solid ground below your feet as a huge radiator. But certainly, the base of a cube-shaped habitat constitutes but a sixth of such a habitat's hull. Insulation could indeed focus on that one sixth.

@The1Jebrim

11 ай бұрын

@@HansDunkelberg1 Low gravity also helps a lot with creating megastructures. You need a lot less structural support compared to here on Earth.

interesting. I live in a frozen barren wasteland known as Alaska. A lot of the hardships you mentioned are things we live with up here in this hostile environment (albeit i concede it’s nowhere near as tough as mars). The rationale for subjecting oneself to a difficult environment is that many of us simply find it rewarding

@TheTinyTimmyTimTim

Жыл бұрын

You find it rewarding because you are within stones throw of human society and habitable places to live. You would not find it rewarding 54 millions miles away. If you ever looked out a window in mars, you’d have an existential crisis so strong you’d lose your sanity.

@cowmoo5596

Жыл бұрын

@@TheTinyTimmyTimTim Existential crises are for nerds

@jsonjsoff

Жыл бұрын

@@TheTinyTimmyTimTim a human climbed El capitan without ropes. Don't ever underestimate human variability and ambition. There are many people that think 180 degrees away from you.

@BroadwayRonMexico

Жыл бұрын

@@jsonjsoff Apples to oranges. That's a feat within the limits of human physiology. Living on Mars, even if technology eventually allows it to be terraformed, is not. Low gravity and lack of any magnetic field (meaning constant high levels of cosmic radiation) pretty much mean any colonist there is going to die of either heart issues or cancer in a matter of years, and having healthy, functional children (important for a colony to be self-sustaining) wont be possible either. Putting a manned mission on Mars is feasible in the future. Even having a permanent research facility with rotating crews akin to the ones in Antarctica could be feasible. But a permanent colony there wouldnt be

@jsonjsoff

Жыл бұрын

@Broadway JR it's not an apples to oranges comparison. My point was that there are humans that would happily sacrifice themselves if they thought they were advancing humanity or reaching a goal. The point was that a human climbed El capitan without ropes which is essentially a death sentence. The fact he was successful is remarkable in and of itself but the fact he had the mentality to even try is a testament to the human mindset. 99.999% of humans wouldn't even think of trying something like that but there was that .001% that not only tried, but did it successfully. Most would describe this guy as borderline insane or sociopathic, but he does indeed exist. That same mindset might be required for an early Mars mission, knowing they are going to die there or on the way.

I agree. I think a lot of people are too optimistic about colonizing Mars. The chances of Mars being habitable are pretty tiny. Mars contains an extremely low temperature, high concentrations of toxic chemicals, lethal amounts of radiation, an insufficient amount of water, a barely existent magnetic field, and an atmosphere that is 1% of Earth's. Not to sound like an asshole, but people who listen to science and logic would fully understand why colonization on Mars is a very small chance. If we live on Mars in large domes, then it is possible to live on Mars, but nowhere near like living on Earth.

@JFrazer4303

Жыл бұрын

You didn't mention low gravity, which is a complete unknown. All of this is beside the point that we can build for virtually Earth-like conditions in space habitats, anywhere.

@hotsauce7709

Жыл бұрын

It has no magnetic field because it has no liquid iron and nickel center like Earth to generate one. Thus it has no Van Allen Belt to protect it from the Sun's extreme radiation. It has virtually no atmosphere; if we stood in one of those huge sandstorms there we wouldn't feel the wind. The soil is chemically toxic to life and would be difficult to sanitize for growing food. The gravity is weak enough to give long term health problems. There may be water but how much and how difficult it would be to extract, detoxify and use we don't know. I love the idea and all but we probably should direct our energy and resources at keeping our planet habitable first. We have a good thing going right here if we fix it up a bit , clean up our messes and tend to it better.

@daviniarobbins9298

Жыл бұрын

And even if you do manage to transform the atmosphere there is still the problem of zero magnetic field to protect it from the solar wind. You would be constantly replenishing the atmosphere to replace the lost.

@ericgolightly8450

Жыл бұрын

​@@daviniarobbins9298 build an artificial one. Live in arficial gravity habitats. Everything else can be outside that.

@VisionCommunications

3 ай бұрын

All the people taking about going to Mars, including Elon, do not want to go, but are happy to send others to suffer or die.

For everyone saying these cringe "they always said we'd never" quotes how in the hell are you planning on reviving a dead planet core thats responsible for keeping the atmosphere around it?Making the atmosphere is one thing but keeping it on the planet another.

@hassanzayed1560

2 жыл бұрын

Finally someone with a brain To me Mars will be always a huge iron mine not a human colony

@bloxyman22

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you need to revive a dead core, when the atmosphere thinning is such a slow process that it will take millions of years? Just doing what we do here on Earth right now would prevent the atmosphere from thinning due to it being replenished more than what is lost.

@daniels7907

Жыл бұрын

@@bloxyman22 - Because you have to contend with the absence of a global geomagnetic field. First off, *where* are you getting that atmosphere from to begin with? Not from Mars itself. For example, the most common gas in Earth's atmosphere is nitrogen, not oxygen. Humans cannot breathe pure oxygen. But there are no large amounts of nitrogen on Mars to extract. So where are you getting it? Nuclear fusion? Comets? The new atmosphere will be getting stripped away by the solar wind even as you are trying to build it up.

@bloxyman22

Жыл бұрын

No one here talked about the composition of the atmosphere. What is the main purpose of terraforming in short term, is to increase pressure enough for water to be able to flow and for humans to be able to be on surface with very little protective gear. We are talking about even colonies on Moon, which we could never ever terraform at all and Mars certainly is a much more habitable to us than the moon and yet we will probably have a colony on the Moon eventually as well. Also magnetic field vanished billions of years ago and took billions of years to reach current stage, which is by the way right now in pretty much in equalibrium so that even a little extra added will add to the amtosphere over time. There is plenty of water and greenhouse gases locked away on and below the surface. Either way what is your solution? Stay on earth and make sure we get wiped out and not even attempt to colonize another body? I surely do not know of a better world than Mars when it comes to us being able to survive.

@daniels7907

Жыл бұрын

@@bloxyman22 - False. The magnetic field vanished billions of years ago, and as far as we can tell so did most of Mars's atmosphere and water. It has *not* been a slow decline to it's present state. Mars's surface features are mostly billions of years old! It is a *dead* planet. The scant carbon dioxide atmosphere that remains is solely because CO2 is very heavy compared to most other gases found in Earth's atmosphere. You also haven't answered where exactly you plan to pump in all of this new atmosphere from! Because the required supply of volatiles are *not* present on Mars! Where will you get all that nitrogen? All that oxygen? All that hydrogen? Talk of lunar colonies is completely different. Even with chemical rocket propulsion the Moon is three days travel from Earth. Not 6-24 months depending on where Mars is in it's solar orbit relative to where Earth is. The Moon's distance from Earth changes very little. Mars changes dramatically as our respective planets orbit the Sun, and for part of the time Mars is opposite the Sun from Earth, which even makes communication a challenge! To top it off, not much talk about lunar colonies presumes permanent occupation, or producing children up there. The general assumption is that it will be a temporary posting like trips to Antarctic outposts. We cannot save ourselves from extinction events by trying to colonize an uninhabitable planet where the colony would still be utterly dependent on the continued civilization on Earth! That should be simple logic.

Thank God. Finally someone with some common sense.

A good summary. The Westminster professor Lewis Dartnell mentioned at 3:10 as "Lewis Darnell" just needs a "t" in his name. I also think there should have been mentioned how gravity can be produced via rotation. This already happens regularly, on Earth, in electricity-driven devices of amusement parks. These technologies would have been unimaginable for people of the 19th century, so it must appear as plausible that if we now still cannot imagine accordingly enlarged versions of them producing terrestrial gravity on Mars, the progress will nonetheless happen. You can build such a machine in the shape of a bowl and position flats on the sloping inner sides.

Just the thought of being stranded on mars, living in a small cell for the rest of your life would drive me mad in no time.

@waterproof4403

2 жыл бұрын

Why not terraform Earth first huh?

@kristtophon

2 жыл бұрын

its called "the right stuff" for a reason. You havent got it

A hundred years ago, people were saying "man will never go into space"

@davidmacphee3549

2 жыл бұрын

Fifty years ago, people were saying " They are wasting all our money on the Moon" Now we need to go back and get it.

@ronaldsmith4153

2 жыл бұрын

Space is full of danger. radiation is deadly. A flight to St Louis does not have that problem.

@jasonschmidt9569

2 жыл бұрын

@Bao Thuy The irony is that the solution to the radiation problem maybe radiation itself.

@jasonschmidt9569

2 жыл бұрын

@@swozzares Ohh no...not those people 🤣

@jacobjames1171

2 жыл бұрын

A don't remember hearing that a 100 years ago.

There's a reason we have not been out of low earth orbit since 1972 and that is no one is willing to pay for it. Take the cost of going back to the moon, multiply it by 1000 and that's a good guess of the cost of visiting Mars for a short stay. Even a small colony on Mars would cost billions annually to maintain. Add to that even the smallest problem could be fatal. Here's what I think will happen, in the next 30 years we will probably land people on Mars, might be a couple of times and that's it. It will go the way of Apollo! A far more interesting proposition is a Moon colony, it's 3 days away and you could rotate people regularly so the lack of gravity and solar radiation had less effect on people.

It can be done, but not the way proposed. First a moon base needs to be built. From there it takes less energy to get to Mars, than from the First of the earth. The next thing is to build an orbiting space station above Mars, because you cash reuse shuttle vehicles, a return trip can be potentially made.

Keywords "Believe me" "Never" - Who are you to make such bold claims?

@dirremoire

2 жыл бұрын

They made a very strong case. I believe them. We will never colonize Mars (albeit we'll have temporary habitations for scientists).

a hundred years from now, today's sci-fi will be rock hard real.

@michaelfried3123

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt it.

@thenotorious1664

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed but somewhat tho

@ecognitio9605

2 жыл бұрын

They said the same thing 50 years ago..

@mikewade777

2 жыл бұрын

3000 years from now would be more realistic.

@peterlustig6888

2 жыл бұрын

@@ecognitio9605 And they were right with a lot of stuff. The internet, flying taxis, computers, robots which work for us and so on.

Without seeing the full footage I agree to the message; at least in the sense that the first centuries it will be true. And probably also after that we have better things to do...

The thing about going to Mars, is that I believe it would be a one way trip. You would never be able to come back to Earth.

I totally agree. What's more, I believe it will be decades before we even send a human to Mars. We can push technology to it's limit, but we can't push it beyond our ability and Mar's is still way beyond us.

@orion8981

2 жыл бұрын

"Beyond our ability" Beyond whose ability? Yours? Just say you're terrified of dying and risk isn't your thing.

@Zuringa

Жыл бұрын

Well said!

@ericgolightly8450

Жыл бұрын

Probably 2100 is when we'll have a proper colony there.

@7777Scion

6 ай бұрын

it will be a long time, unless we want to send CORPSES to Mars - that we can accomplish right now! protected long-range human space travel is beyond Earth tech for several decades at least

@81crispy

6 ай бұрын

Some hiv viruses said that about moving to the human body I bet

Yes that is true. We just might make the trip, set foot, and leave. To colonize mars would be very difficult and not to mention expensive. Every trip would be super dangerous

@richard--s

2 жыл бұрын

@Bao Thuy while driving you have fesh air everywhere and food every few driving minutes or driving hours.

@razormilkyway8444

2 жыл бұрын

Say that to one of the richest man on the planet, Elon :)

Nice dose of reality. Common Sense Skeptic does a great job debunking this also. Fantasy is great so long as you don't believe it's reality.

can u please tell me the song in this video

Mars will not hold a breathable atmosphere without a core to generate a sufficient field

@razormilkyway8444

2 жыл бұрын

You sure thats the right way to do it?

@SomeoneNamedTygget

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, it totally could. It would require a teeny bit upkeep and a constant influx of Nitrogen and Oxygen, but solar wind strips away Mars' atmosphere far far slower than we can replenish it. On top of that, we could conceivably create a (relatively) small artificial magnetic field and place it between the Sun and Mars so that Mars is constantly in the "shadow" of the artificial magnetic field and won't be continuously subjected to solar wind. And in the next few centuries/millennia, who knows? We might discover some method to kickstart Mars' core so that it can start generating its own magnetic field again.

@vinayak90417

2 жыл бұрын

@@SomeoneNamedTygget Bruh, if we can turn any planet into Earth, than why can't we turn Earth back into Earth?

@Withnail1969

2 жыл бұрын

@@SomeoneNamedTygget no it could not and we can't kickstart the core of a planet. you're delusional in your confidence about what we, a bunch of apes from Earth, can do.

@jaapaardenburg9376

2 жыл бұрын

@@vinayak90417 Because of countries with shitty governments who don't like sustainable enviroments.

You can solve all of these problems with engineering and science.

@adamjohnston529

2 жыл бұрын

Well me might have to change human DNA to survive the gravity and radiation so it's kinda true.

@1KosovoJeSrbija1

2 жыл бұрын

@@adamjohnston529 gravity isn't an issue when using rotationally boosted habitats, and you can't solve radiation by genetic engineering.

@razormilkyway8444

2 жыл бұрын

Dont forget the ludicrous amount of optimism. I support it^^

Or build a mass driver on its surface, mine the red rock as needed and shoot it into space to build habitats.

Carbon dioxide is not "noxious" to plants, that in turn use it to make O^2

"This task is probably impossible given my current understanding of how to complete it, therefor it is impossible and will never happen in the future" is a way of thinking that has almost only ever led to being proven wrong with time.

@pavel9652

2 жыл бұрын

It is a clickbait approach to the topic. This video has 10x the regular video views on this channel ;)

The cost per person to live on Mars ( not counting the dangers ) is way too high to be possible.

@thesmalltalk9546

2 жыл бұрын

For now

@Mr_viral03

2 жыл бұрын

Get lost

Thank you for this vide Mars is a waste of time, money and resources. Save the Earth! Our planet needs our help. Now!

I'm 42 years old, I don't expect to see anything remotely of colonization of Mars. I'm expecting to live for another 40 years. But I do expect to see man land on Mars in my lifetime and that's good enough for me.

There is a difference between being a realist and a pessimist. People that think everything is impossible all the time and being negative as soon as people talk about stuff they don't believe in are the people that constantly hold us back from actual progression.

@chrisdonish

Жыл бұрын

How would colonizing mars benefit us?

@Drakey_Fenix

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisdonish Not us as individuals, but as a species. The survival of the human race depends on colonization into outer space. If we stay on one planet we are doomed when something happens, such as a global war, asteroid impact, viral outbreak etc. Living on multiple planets and outside in space drastically increases humanities chances of surviving and not becoming extinct. But unfortunately most people on this planet are incredibly selfish and don't give a shit about that and only care for themselves.

@chrisdonish

Жыл бұрын

@@Drakey_Fenix none of those are a justification for colonizing mars, there is no possible major catastrophe that can justify leaving earth for any other planet, humans cannot survive any where in space or on any other planet without relying on resources from earth. If earth as a planet becomes inhospitable for humans,any space or other planetary colonization effort will become unsustainable because there are no resources or atmospheric conditions in space that can sustain human existence. We should focus on taking care of earth instead of trying to colonize dead and inhospitable planets.

@anticorn6635

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisdonish How would it not? Imagine one day an asteroid comes hurdling towards earth that we can't stop, the last remnants of humanity AND possibly even life itself (although that's doubtable) could be wiped out within a day. We should expand, and it is inevitable that we will.

@chrisdonish

Жыл бұрын

@@anticorn6635 it is not inevitable that we will colonize anything that cant sustain life, there are over 8 billion people on the earth and over 400 million people living in South America which is less than 700 miles away from Antarctica which was discovered over 200 years ago yet not a single permanent settlement or colony has been established there and you want to know why? BECAUSE IT CANNOT SUSTAIN LIFE. And let me tell you, Antarctica is a garden paradise compared to any planet known to us, it has water, sunlight, oxygen, is less than a days travel from the closest human settlement and not to mention a breathable atmosphere so you can be as hopeful as you want but until I see any improvement on colonizing the frozen continent then nothing will change my mind that colonizing a planet over 50 million miles away from earth will remain in the realm of science fiction.

if we can live in space we can live on mars man... the first time I totally disagree with you.

@nightlightabcd

2 жыл бұрын

Staying on the ISS is not living on Mars! There will never be self sustaining towns on Mars!

@soakingpeach3939

2 жыл бұрын

@@nightlightabcd cap

@wisemanofsorts6068

2 жыл бұрын

@@nightlightabcd Please list the differences?

@sakesithole6295

2 жыл бұрын

@@nightlightabcd do tell what are the differences? Mars even has a an advantage that it has gravity( although it's a lot weaker then earth )

@dirremoire

2 жыл бұрын

Here's a difference: The ISS can get supplies from Earth within a few hours. You know, water, food, medical supplies... those sort of things.

The fact of the matter is ...we have to prepare our nearest planet as we all know that humanity needs a back up in case of catastrophy so all efforts must be put so we can survive and become planetary species as there is a whole new world is waiting .

This is one of the videos will laugh at in the future.

Having a habitat around earth makes more sense than colonizing mars.

@joaocoelho8320

Жыл бұрын

really doesn’t

Despite whether we colonise Mars or not, it will never be a home to millions and will take thousands of years to make habitable to a lesser degree of comfort as the Earth provides. Just another case of the importance we should place towards cleaning up our planet and to severely penalise those who pollute or degrade the earth. After all no other place will be as remarkable or as habitable as the earth is. Ever.

@razormilkyway8444

2 жыл бұрын

Say that to your war conflict and climate change^^

"WE EARTHLING'S WILL NEVER COLONISE MARS!" TRY TELLING THAT TO ELON MUSK ! ! !

I fully agree.

2:39 they would weigh 25 kilogram-force. Can people please understand mass.

@jasonschmidt9569

2 жыл бұрын

You’re expecting too much Mr Forbes

@lmao2351

2 жыл бұрын

Kilogram isn't mass...

@thomasforbes784

2 жыл бұрын

@@lmao2351 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilogram

@lmao2351

2 жыл бұрын

@@thomasforbes784 that's doesn't make ane sense. How can kilograms be the messurment of mass whne different atoms weight different amount. If there are 2 cubes with the same volume and the same atom density but one is made from iron and one helium. Than they both have the same mass but will wight different in kilograms.

@thomasforbes784

2 жыл бұрын

@@lmao2351 We currently mostly measure mass using weight that may be where some of your confusion is. But a kilogram is a measure of mass which doesn't change based on which celestial body you are standing on. Weight does change.

We ought to get our act together here on Earth before we even thhink of going to Mars. Anyhow, who would want to live on Mars? Sure there will be bases like there are bases in the Antarctica, but that will be it.

@razormilkyway8444

2 жыл бұрын

It will not be 'it' :)

@KoRnBulleT

Жыл бұрын

@@razormilkyway8444 yes it will be just a few bases. But even that i don't think is ever gonna happen.

@BroadwayRonMexico

Жыл бұрын

@@razormilkyway8444 It will be "it", unless Mars's core spontaneously starts heating up again and convections create a magnetic field to shield from the extremely dangerous levels of cosmic radiation anyone on Mars would be exposed to at all times

We haven't even colonised the Moon yet after supposedly landing on it 6 or 7 times in the late 60s and 70s and we never went back. Wouldn't it be logical to attempt establishing a settlement on the Moon first if that's indeed possible?