I noticed that trying to obtain perfectionism in my own work also drained the fun out of it. Great topic and points! 🤙🏼

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

100% it does! enjoying the process itself is always the most fun part 😬

This is something I’ve chosen to confront about myself this year. I have given up on so many passions due to fear of not being good enough, and of not being perfect. I’m about to do a big move in my life, and maybe even a career change, and I look forward to striving for excellence, and no longer look for perfection.

This is one of the best videos I've seen in a while. I have struggled with this for years. Great Video Pat.

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

i feel you there! hope it helped :)

This holds me back soooooo much! I've turned down or scared myself out of opportunities because I know the quality or "perfection" wont be up to par with how I know it could or should be. GREAT VIDEO!!!!

my psychologist called me a "perfectionist" a couple days ago. at first I completely disagreed with her cause in my mind being "perfectionist " meant that you'd be a person who has their shit together , a person who's very organized , a person who's calm and collected. and I was none of the things above so i couldn't be a perfectionist right? I was messy , I was never collected , I couldn't even get shit done even tho I knew if I started I'd get my work done so quickly and so simply. but all of these were caused because of perfectionism. if I think that I won't be the greatest the most perfect thing at that job I will never try to do it. cause in my mind being perfect is the only way to do something. i am a younger part of your audience however this video helped me realize a lot things about myself and the perspective I have. realizing that these ideas and emotions actually come from fear is enlightening. thanks as always 💖💖💖💖💖💖

I appreciate your advice Pat, I like how your "photography" tips tend to apply to everyday life. I rewatch your videos every few months and always come out a little more knowledgeable and inspired.

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

i try to make them as universal as possible! and i appreciate that you also appreciate that too 😬

Well said! One thing i try to remember is that no one knows what the vision in our head was at the time of creation. We may feel like we failed because the end result wasn't exactly what we had drawn up in our mind, but no one else knows what that vision was. They see it for what it is, not what we thought it should've been. The best test of this is to look back at your work several weeks or months later. 80% of the time you won't notice any mistakes or why you thought it wasn't good enough in the first place. Time is the only thing that gives an artist perspective. Ironically, time is the thing we are always anxiously fighting and it's the only thing that can bring us peace.

I have watched your videos for a month or two but this one meant a lot more to me, so I am now subscribed. Thanks for sharing these thoughts and observations, I suspect they will 'sway' my thinking.

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

welcome! thanks for subscribing!

"Perfectionism Comes From Fear". Thank you for this Video!

This works for photography, any creative stuff and also life in general. Thank you Pat!

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching!

Many of the things that you said you go through I resonated with. As a creative perfectionism is one of my biggest struggles when the time comes to take action. I really needed this video, it definitely changed my perspective on things. Thank you for sharing your thoughts 🙏🏼❤️

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

im glad it helped! thanks for watching :)

Thank you for genuinely sharing your story, Pat. It’s not just a typical perfectionism “self-help” that you normally find on youtube. 👍

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

im glad you thought it was different! thanks for watching ☺️

Paralysis of analysis….another great video revealing the weakness in people that struggle with perfectionism. This has literally lost me countless time, hours and years trying to figure out what content to push out for myself. My background is also in media but as an over thinker does, I’ve tried being very specific on an idea and it has always ended it being so overwhelmed that I don’t execute. Thanks for the honest talk on your videos Pat. This stuff is invaluable.

Awesome video! Perfectionism is definitely toxic, it’s a struggle for me, and I have been working on improving this by just take actions and push my works out soon once they’re “finished”. Certainly not easy to do, and I still failed more often I wanted, but whenever I made it through, it allows me to gain better momentum to move forward as you mentioned. Thanks for sharing Pat!

I really needed to hear this. Thank You Pat Kay.

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

my pleasure. thanks for watching :)

Thank you for the advice!

So true Pat! Thank you for this video! I too struggle with perfectionism and it takes its toll on my mental health on a daily basis..

I can't get enough on this topic bc I resonate with it so much. I love watching your videos- every time I come back to them I'm always appreciative of your eloquence! Well put!!

Thanks Pat. I related to this video so much and felt like I needed to hear this. Perfect timing. Love your videos, by the way 🙏🏼

Well spoken as always PK !

I recognize myself in so many points of your video, that’s crazy! I guess I’ll have to see excellence as the virtue to pursue, which sounds way healthier than unreachable perfection

You’re consistent Pat! I’m always looking forward to these videos.

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

i try to be! consistency is everything 💪

I sooo needed to hear this today, thanks a lot bro!

thank you so much. for these great videos

Thank you for the very insightful video! I've definitely seen the growth of my work when I have patience and strive to learn everyday even if its for 30 minutes. I certainly know for a fact that there isn't that one destination where we assume the growth ends there. It genuinely never-ending. As long as we contribute most of our time unto the work and skills we love, we will outshine those who don't. Much love to you and everyone here and keep creating 💯

Thank you Pat for this video. It hits close to home. I literally just stop my editing on LrC. Perhaps we are hard on ourselves and we keep pushing to find that special result. once again, thanks for this video. I enjoy watching them all. Cheers,

Thanks it makes so much sense. I can totally associate with what you were talking about. It can be such a pain in my life

I dont have the words enough to thank you for this video, I'm just struggling with this topic right now and your video is so refreshing for my mind and my work. Thank you

@Pat Kay I would like to thank you for discussing this topic because I struggle with this greatly.

Loved this Pat, thank you for sharing. I’m a recovering perfectionist, and where I used to see this as a badge of honour (it was weirdly a compliment when I was growing up, was it the same for you too?), i’ve realised in recent years how little energy it leaves me for creativity. Definitely food for thought when you spoke about the stages in the process perfectionism shows up most. I think I might be the same, at the end, I definitely drag my feet for fear of calling a painting finished and it not being everything and a packet of crisps I’d envisioned it being in the early stages of inspiration! Some compartmentalising to do there, for sure. Thank you for the timely reminder - Mel.

A good sum up of me and my life ! I hate being a perfectionist, well sometimes it can be practical but most of the time, it just stops me from doing things and so I'm just not moving forward to my projects and dreams..

Thank you Pat, immensely...in so may ways

I don't know if I suffer from perfectionism, but rather chronic procrastination. It is toxic. The quote about something executed "now" being better than something perfect in the futre resonated with me. Thank you for this video.

Excellent video and message.

I really enjoyed this. Thank you 🙏🏼

Your videos have always been excellent

Great video Pat..definitely relate as a chronic overthinker and perfectionist

Bravo Pat! One of many reasons I'm glad I subscribe. Thanks!

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

glad you liked the video!

This helped soooo much!!

I'm the same man , thank you for sharing

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching!

The beauty of imperfection ❤

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

imperfection makes the prettiest things ♥️

Wise as ever! I really find your thoughts on these principles and things so fascinating 😎

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

thanks Dylan! i appreciate you continually returning, watching, and commenting! MVP!

Thank you so much, this was right on time.

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

im glad! thanks for watching :)

I really enjoy your contemplative, intellectual approach, Pat. Wishing you all the good things, peace, and growth.

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

i appreciate you! thanks for watching 😁

Truly inspiring and great advice, I'm one that always get stuck between perfectionism and "good enough"

Another great message that many people are afraid to talk about!

Always offering solid advice. Thank you for sharing Pat! 😃🙏

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching, Jay!

Thank you pat！

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

thank you!

I've been trying to fight this my whole life, the procrastination gets annoying haha. Loved the video dude!

Very insightful commentary.

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

glad you dig it :)

Pat. Something you allude to, that the Pareto Principle of 80% takes (or should take) 20% of the effort, the opposite is true too. That attempting to complete the final 20% because of perfection, will take 80% of the effort. That is a disproportionately, ridiculous, use of our time that not only grinds us down, but it effectively drains us of opportunity to create, make money and ultimately pursue life. The amount of times I’ve tried to get an edit right, then tapped on the screen to see the original, to only then realise I’ve going down a rabbit hole and the original only needed light tweaking. Thanks for a brutally honest video.

Amazing vid, Pat. Keep up the excellent work. :)

You inspire me a lot though currently I'm not doing anything art related. Perfectionist does more harm than good to me. Now that I finally acknowledge it, I'll just try my best doing my things and enjoy the fun along the way. Thank you for making this amazing video.

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

being a perfectionist permeates through a lot of different areas of life! so i hope this helps. ☺️

thanks for the advice bro!

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching!

Thank you so much for this. As a rising high school senior, this is exactly how my brain works when it comes to college essays - I want the perfect idea to be there on my paper before I even write a first draft. I've been giving it shots since I recognize that this idea is toxic, but never incorporated working on it daily. Hopefully that helps - thanks again.

This was an awesome video Pat, & so true aswell. I've always said that practice makes improvement, not perfection, because you can always better your "best" & I agree the more you chase the illusion of perfection, the more miserable you will be, which will ultimately prevent you from growing, & suck the fun out of your craft. You can achieve excellence, but not perfection, because there are no perfect people, so why not put that energy to good use instead, right? 😊👌 Love your content & your message brother. 😎👍

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

love your saying! im totally with ya 🤝

Thank you for this. I struggle with pushing the shutter button because of perfectionism. I then end up not taking as my photos when I go out because I need to have the "perfect shot". I will just 'work' next time I go out and take pictures the whole hike.

It's a great message. I have often found myself stranded and paralyzed with trying to find perfect which stops me from finishing. Excellentism > Perfectionism

I am tired too … it's true that it's fear disguised , I'm a person who is totally swallowed by perfectionism I'm a perfectionist to the point of getting sick and cry if I can't get the perfect result, it's toxic and the more you realize how bad it is the more I get scared, I think I'm starting to hate what I once loved to do I really hate that about me, it's tormenting and it's getting in the way of me enjoying what I do it's not fun as it was before, I don't smile I don't get excited no matter how good the result is, there is no satisfaction or contentment it's tiring

Nice one (again)! ✨

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching!

Love this video. I relate heavily. Off topic I don’t see this mic in your gear list?

Thank u

I believe - "Perfection is in the eye of the beholder" sometimes a perfect picture looks artificial and an not so perfect one looks more believable or natural. Having said that I think we always need to try and give it our best shot, but also need to know when to stop. Its how prefect can perfect get. I really liked your talk about Perfectionist. It sort of puts a lot of things in perspective. Man you can be a good psychologist, you talk a lot of sense. Thx Pat!!

Holy crap man i agree.

Perfectionism made me slow, I lost a lot of clients due to late deliveries. I'm a freelance video editor. Thanks a lot for such an amazing. Video. Its really eye opening. I'm going change my perception and thinking. Now its purely proved to me, EVERYTHING IN ACCESS IS POISON!

Oof, this one hits close to home and came at the perfect time. I'm about to leave corporate life and go full-time into freelance copywriting, and so perfectionism is something I'm about to struggle with even more soon - both when it comes to my actual work and also how I manage work. Absolutely loved the quote about how creating art is really about putting in the work every day. Definitely something I need to remember! It doesn't need to be perfect, we just need to genuinely try, move on, and keep trying.

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

that's it! often easier said than done, but we'll all get there eventually 😌. good luck with your move into copywriting! how exciting!

Pat, Sorry, I accidentally hit the send button. I meant to say, I’m so far from equaling those photographers whose work I admire, I’m not even in the same zip code. I’ guess I’m a perfectionist, and I’m at the point where I wonder if I shouldn’t just give it up, and quit photography. Your video gave voice to what I feel. It made me think,. I believe I gained some insight that I hope will help me, Thank you for that. Tom

Pat, That was such an insightful and, for me, massively incriminating, but, I hope, helpful video . I’ve got a Sony A1, more Sony lenses than I will admit to, and a library of over thirty books on photography. I want to be a portrait photographer. The problem is, I don’t take many photos, because when I do, I hate the results. I know what a great photo should look like, and I’m so far from being able to do that . I’m not even in the

Can we get a book list for more mindful reading? :)

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

sure! for which topic?

@DavidRamgobin

2 жыл бұрын

@@patkay was thinking the books you mentioned in this video, and any others that cover or touch on the same ideas.

Great video. I also have this issue too, but I learned from watching Casey Neistat’s vlogs that imperfection is what makes his vlogs perfect. He always sprinkles in his mistakes in his videos and even his glasses are all scratched up and doesn’t care as much about the video quality as long as he gets the shot. You can learn a lot by just watching his vlogs.

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

ive been a long time Casey watcher too! while i could never allow myself to get that rough, it certainly has given me a lot of self permission to let go and only care about what truly matters

@beau__

2 жыл бұрын

@@patkay Appreciate the response!

What is ur lr version

Perfectionism is a good thing. You can't make other people happy if you are not happy. You can't be calm to others, if you are not calm in your head.If you change yourself in to something you are not... Believe me, it could hold you back on some business, but you will never be satisfied with the thinks you have delivered . There are 2 types, the one doing it for the money, the one is doing it for the satisfaction and pride. The one you have to force in, is not who you are and over time... you won't be happy. I'm a perfectionist over the top on everything whole my life (50 now) And in my profession, people hire me for my perfectionism. I rather want people to hire me because I'm the best in what I do than they hire me because I'm cheap. I would never won't to change that. Accept who you are... and don't look what others do. Be happy that you are not like 90% of other people. I hope I never loose that perfectionism. Inside my head I never have rest, and I would not sell that for nothing. This perfectionism has taken me to know and discover things that I otherwise never would have known.

Thanks!

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

No problem! thanks for the super thanks!

I literally just had this realization about myself YESTERDAY!

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

it's something that ive thought about, changed about myself, and then forgotten about so many times in my career. it'll keep coming back, and that's a beautiful thing 😌

Procrastination is my productivity killer.

PAT, my question is, how do I make pictures without the support of something interesting like the sunset or sunrise, in a boring farm area. or is the point of the 27 photos per day, just to build the habit of 27 photos completed and the content doesn't matter because your ideas will come over time? ? I need help with 27 photos per day, I'm living at home taking care of my grandma and I only get out to go for a walk when she's sleeping... I am far from the city and I want to practice 27 photos a day like you said but I'm feeling sort of resistance because I feel like my area is not very interesting. I thought about changing my focal length from 35mm *my walk around* to maybe a wide or tele lens, because it will change my perspective, but even if I use a fisheye or macro lens I seem to be running out of ideas maybe my perfectionist mind feels like there should be a subject because I'm used to shooting landscapes at the beach finding leading lines with the sky and its easy to show off the beauty because the sunshine is my supporting cast when it sets. I found myself holding back because my supporting cast isn't there when its rainy and I have nothing interesting to take photos of so I run out of ideas, its easier to take portraits and landscapes for me but maybe I can take pictures of my family.. hmm or 27 pictures a day of my grandma... please your clarification would be so much appreciated!!

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

in short, the purpose is precisely to help you out of the limitations you’re placing on yourself; to break free of what you think “boring” is. to try something new and push yourself to be creative. the purpose is to make your brain sweat, just like in the gym with your body 💪

@LouisLuzuka

2 жыл бұрын

@@patkay oh essentially what you're saying is, we're not supposed to judge the quality of the output, rather... to continue to input the habit and put those reps in. make every rep count, but its not as important as the next rep. you can't even lift weights if you're not in the gym that helps so much!!! so instead of judging the limitation, just know that maybe I'm finding an excuse not to do it and to lean in a bit more??

@LouisLuzuka

2 жыл бұрын

@@patkay so basically don't judge what you do, just do. and as you continually do, it will improve. thank you so much

I get stuck writing because I fear it won't be perfect. It's ridiculous.

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

i feel you. i get stuck writing all the time too 🙃. we'll get through it!

@colinmetzler

2 жыл бұрын

@@patkay Yes, I need to flesh out those imperfect random thoughts to form 'ON PAPER', instead of fighting for preconcepulized frameworks, alas, random and whims do have more resonance.

1v1 me in Mario Kart

@patkay

2 жыл бұрын

i'll destroy you 😘. just like i do in Mario Party 😬