Beginner VS Amateur VS Pro: Hill Climb Edition | Weight Handicap Rematch!
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A few months ago, we pitted a beginner cyclist, an amateur cyclist, and a pro cyclist against one another up a local climb to see how much faster the pro would be. Hill climbing legend, Andrew Feather, absolutely smoked Ollie & Freddie - which came as a surprise to...nobody. We decided a rematch was in order; with a bit of a twist. We gave Ollie and Andrew weighted backpacks so all three riders weighed the same to see what difference it made!
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Who do you think will be the fastest?
@valtbeyblade6486
3 жыл бұрын
Of course the pro 👍😁
@cyclingnerddelux698
3 жыл бұрын
Having carefully examined the results, it has been determined that Ollie will try anything to win a race. But, he was dropped again.
@cancelodias2594
3 жыл бұрын
lol a advertiser and his alt
@RicoLee830104
3 жыл бұрын
My money will be on Andrew before watching the video
@michaelsingh843
3 жыл бұрын
There was always a glimmer of hope that Freddy would win, being that little heavier there was always the taught the extra weight is what separate us from the elite. Go figure .. it was the training and sacrifice that came up on top
The real winner here is Freddie - what an achievement to take 3 minutes out of his PB!!
@nuar_dev
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Last time he bombed himself like a madman at the starting line tho :D
@ShadowzKiller
3 жыл бұрын
Watching Freddie sprint at the end really shows how hard he has worked. So inspiring.
@diegoleiva7242
3 жыл бұрын
Freddie is the man! He's progressed so much.
@rossthompson3568
3 жыл бұрын
Total legend!
@AnarchoKapital
3 жыл бұрын
Also Freddie would absolutely destroy both Andrew and Olli in any weightlifting exercise :D
Freddie represents the MAJORITY of us. Showing us his progress over time is something that would greatly inspire people like us that have stayed beginners aptitude for years.
@theRealDavidn
3 жыл бұрын
For sure! Freddie did great - smashing his pb by several minutes.
@chevon1920
3 жыл бұрын
Not me, I would’ve been dead long ago, lol
@carcontrolcommitment
3 жыл бұрын
Freddie did it in 13.28 first time. Double, nearly treble the other two. I reckon Freddie stopped to puke on his way up!
@NYGiants4Life
3 жыл бұрын
It’s so hard. I been cycling a year now and I hate steep hills. Once I’m up, I smile and say to myself “you did it”. And then come another one and I’m like ahh fuck. Lmao
@Vestu
2 жыл бұрын
@@NYGiants4Life when I see a steep hill I'm like "Oh fuck off will ya another one oh for fuck sake!"
Now than Freddy is already dropping Ollie , you can add him on 5v SI in TT bike
@hucklejoko4838
3 жыл бұрын
Yes we need this video.
@arson4276
3 жыл бұрын
Ouch! That’s dirty! Lol
@ClashByKoi
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Epic!!
@leejianhaur
3 жыл бұрын
hahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahaha
@hemi265mustard
3 жыл бұрын
Winner of all GCN comments forever!!!!
Andrew Feather is such an excellent name for a hill climb champion
@bensonnyakabwa1868
2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if that is his stage name or something, also like Usain Bolt being the fastest man on the planet
I just came here to watch Ollie suffer. I mean it’s not AS much fun as waiting to see if Hank makes himself cry, but it’s a close second.
@wibblemu9
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly Hank has to be a masochist. My dude suffers so we don't have to
@monkeysrightpaw
3 жыл бұрын
Ollie came in his favourite place. Last.
Freddy, the beginner is better at clipping in than any GCN presenter in history
We need more videos with Freddie! Follow his progression to becoming an advanced rider!
@Mike0
3 жыл бұрын
World tour rider!
I'd like to know Freddie's cadence .. makes Froomey look like a grinder
@edg84
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I rode that climb over 100km into a century in January at 101kg and it's an easy one to grind up in a big gear without any really steep sections. Reckon the Freddie could get his time down a lot by changing his gearing.
@gadenhertog
3 жыл бұрын
With a stopwatch you can time it. That's how I did that for myself while on the bike back in the days without a cadance sensor.
@leighharwood9415
3 жыл бұрын
@@gadenhertog you certainly can although I used to like 30 seconds and then double it The clip of Freddie at the top is only a couple of seconds so I think it would be fairly inaccurate I'm guessing it was someway over 100 though 👍
@edg84
3 жыл бұрын
@@leighharwood9415 hard to say but the top is essentially false flat. None of it is really steep but the middle section is the only part you need to come out if the big ring and spin an easier gear. Having said that we weren't there and he may just not ride hills often and be that exhausted.
@seniorcycling5352
3 жыл бұрын
I did the math, at that top section where Andrew was catching him he was doing about 114
A few years ago I weighed 104 kg when I got back into cycling. Now I weigh 79 kg. The other day I had to carry 20 kg up some stairs... I don't know how I even walked around in the old days... Stay fit, people!
@eccehomer8182
3 жыл бұрын
Virtually the same stats as me! It's incredible when you think about it like that. P.S. Well done! 👍
@kentoutcourt
3 жыл бұрын
the thing is, the weight you had was evenly (or at least more so) distributed. It wasn't all in your forearms :) Just like in this video, it's way more difficult with all the extra weight in a backpack than in the legs, torso, and everywhere. Andrew would've smoked Freddy with a good distribution of the weight. Still, great job on the weight loss, and to Freddy for his massive improvement.
You guys should really get behind Freddie and show how someone can improve over time, a lot of viewers would relate and appreciate including me. Also, I live in Bath and would love to be a project and I have an F12 haha #letmeinthecrew
@Egppie.
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah since it's kinda hard relating to ex pros for us commoners
@mikewy192
3 жыл бұрын
Great idea. I’ve lost 5kg & feel so much faster (still terrible but it’s all relative) be great to see progression in a new starter.
@blackcyclist
3 жыл бұрын
Freddie has smashed it, I think there should be more guest feature segments tracking his Cycling development. Go Freddie!
@leighharwood9415
3 жыл бұрын
F12 .. new cyclist 🤔😬😬
@gw7392
3 жыл бұрын
@@leighharwood9415 never said I was.
The most gripping video GCN have produced in ages. I loved it. GCN have a new star in Freddie, get behind him and produce some kind of zero to hero video series. It would be fascinating (and relatable).
*Talking to girl Her: "So what do you do?" Him: "I'm the freddie on GCN." FLERT.
@aldrinclementina4297
3 жыл бұрын
Lol🤣. That's the ingredient for the second date....guaranteed 🤣🤣
Credit to all the riders for being up for this, great video.
I would be more likely to sign up to one of the 4-6 week long 'train with' series that GCN produces with Freddie than with former Pros like Connor.... (Physically I have more in common with Freddie..) Would also be interested to see some sort of attempt to measure his progression over 12+ months. could be a mini series in this with a number of 'newbies'. Reckon there would be a diminishing return after initial big leaps due to improved technique, bike fit, cadence, weight loss etc then interesting to see where the next set of gains come from....
@Kimberly_Sparkles
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Freddie and maybe a woman. The changes will be pretty different between them.
@eccehomer8182
3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. One of the big problems with GCN (and other content creators) is that it's heavily geared to pro-cycling... I'm mean apart from Ollie, they're all ex-pro's riding £10K bikes and even Ollie is always on a superbike. It also tends to be about riding as fast as possible, which is OK, but cycling also brings many other joys... which is probably why I like the Mark Beaumont videos.
Way to go Freddie! I'm right there with you as a big fellow. I love the downhills where I get to turn all of that potential energy I stored into kinetic energy.
this is one of the most funny and interesting videos I had ever seen in the GCN videos, cause I saw the last one and I was impressed by Freddie. but now I'm blown away by his impressive improvement and performance well done. you GCN guys should get behind Freddie and use him like a lab. Freddie bike lab on this case to see how can someone improve over time I reckon a lot of people will be interested in this including my self...
@marcalvarez4890
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! This is among the best GCN videos because we get to see ourselves, amateurs, and we get to see the crazy fitness that is a pro rider, AND we get to see a normal person. And i have to admit the most interesting data here is how FAST a normal person improves. Especially when that normal person is a 20 something bull of a guy who is going to be crazy fast if he keeps riding. That boy is impressive! My takeaway from this video is that the rider is ALWAYS the most important part of a ride, not the bike. His or her bike handling skills, weight, aero positioning and gear, and their mental emotional energy. Its a good reminder, and its why im riding a $30 garage sale bike before buying the next generation of Canyon Lux for multiple thousands. The rider is the most important part of the system, as this video proves. Ride safe people! And ride often.
@klx-y
3 жыл бұрын
@@marcalvarez4890 well say that's totally true
@jasonmcgrody9472
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. A 10 week Freddie Fitness series of videos would have been a treat to watch.
@marcalvarez4890
3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonmcgrody9472 Absolutely!
Give freddie another month of training and make another kind of this video to see his progress
This was way more entertaining than I was expecting. Well done all of you! Great to see that Freddie has improved his fitness - 300W average is mighty impressive and he probably shouldn't count as a beginner any more! 😝
@theRealDavidn
3 жыл бұрын
Nope they’ll need to find a new beginner. Freddie is now in the realm of promising intermediate
Oh my goodness, Freddie was really inspiring especially comparing his effort in part 1 vs. part 2. Really wondered what he has done in detail to improve his PB. As a fellow big size fella, you have my salute!
@eccehomer8182
3 жыл бұрын
If he's anything like me (a now former big guy), I would say that he's followed the Eddie Merckx school of philosophy... "Ride your bike, ride your bike, ride your bike!"
@5:45 "This is the same point he caught me last time".. but.. we saw from the earliest minutes that there isn't that much of a weight difference between Ollie and Andrew, and Andrew stil producing almost twice the power. So Ollie had no chance from the start :).
@billinhouston3291
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
Kudos to Freddy for dropping some kilos, 3 minutes from his last effort, and - wait for it - Ollie
Love this follow up video - thanks guys. Really motivating stuff! One of the things I love about cyclists is that no matter what level you’re riding at, they always encourage you. I have amazing cycling friends who have helped me through lockdown, and now I’m back into cycling again after many years off the bike! I am loving it. Am going up Bannerdown for the first time today! 🚴🏻♀️🤞
More Freddie please - he's probably fairly representative of the majority of your viewers!
Really interesting and fun. Thanks for these short videos guys 😀
Freddie averaging 300W for 10 minutes is amazing! If i remember, that was Dan's 20 minute goal on his swift challenge
@DC-uf7yx
3 жыл бұрын
think of the watts per kilo tho
Go on Freddie!! What a star. What would be great is if you could follow Freddie's progress over the months via various challenges like this one, or TT (bet he would beat Si).
@gcn
3 жыл бұрын
We'll definitely make more videos with Freddie!
@jivinit
3 жыл бұрын
@@gcn get Freddie on an ebike vs Feather
It was very fun to watch, love the channel and the sportsmanship you guys displayed. Cheers! keep them coming.
Man I'm so pumped by this result. Gives me some hope being a heavy rider who lives in a hilly area. Looking to lose some weight this spring, can't wait to see what kind of improvement i can look forward to.
Being a heavy rider - I have to say I LOVE these kind of videos
Thanks for doing this video. I'm a big lad new to cycling. to see someone who is close to my size doing well is amazing. Gives me hope and motivation.
Another great video GCN, You just make the all of these little questions that never get answered - answered ! thanks to Ollie and the guys for making this one . All the best MrDazP1
Andrew is a MONSTER, the guy was carrying weight he couldn't even lift, passed both ollie and freddy on the climb, and he wasn't even on a carbon bike
I would like to see GCN continue to follow Freddie and see how he improves over the summer.
Freddie's saddle looks a bit low, making his whole body wiggle around with his high cadence. Next upgrade should be a proper bike fit (and some cadence drills). Anyways, cool to see his progression since last time.
@LouieBaLLz
3 жыл бұрын
Watching him bounce was driving me crazy. I was saying to myself, why doesnt he shift a gear or two to prevent the bouncing?
@kevinadiputra782
3 жыл бұрын
@@LouieBaLLz i feel tired just watching him pedaling that much😂
@mohdnormohdaminnullah4064
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.. I think so too.. the seat can be a wee bit higher..
@lothburke2243
3 жыл бұрын
I rode like this for ages until I adjusted my saddle.
@user-yn5sk5ru5g
3 жыл бұрын
Saddle height looks good, too many people ride too high anyway. Nice high cadence by Freddy,
Yes, more Freddie content! Awesome to see how drastic the initial improvements are when you commit to cycling. Seeing his improvement brings back memories when I started as overweight and out of shape. Big climbs going for a time wasn't even a consideration. Then one day I completed the big climb, then a year later I took 25% out of that time. Keep at it Freddie!
I think Freddie's been taking some "asthma" medication between the last race and this one. Quite mind blowing how Andrew managed to even get up the hill, never mind do it in 9 minutes. Considering he couldn't lift the rucksack with one hand. Nothing short of incredible.
@mx2000
3 жыл бұрын
8 minutes, even
@KetansaCreatesArt
3 жыл бұрын
Yes and, them adding extra weight on the pro is not the way to balance the race. Its like putting your fat weight on the pro. His muscle strength and weight is his earning. Your fat (or dead creatine water mass) is your spending.
@kakarot2430
3 жыл бұрын
Can we assume it was the beginner gain ?
@fanqiejiang1749
2 жыл бұрын
Instead of the “asthma” medicine, it might’ve been the circumstances + more motivation. Back in high school, my teacher used to force us to do the mile run once every two weeks two months leading up our state fitness test. My time was terrible, around 15 minutes the entire two months because I didn’t care. When the actual test came, from pure motivation to maintain my grade I did the mile roughly 4 or 5 minutes faster.
Quality video! Thoroughly enjoyed it 😂 you have now ruined my heavy rider excuse so thanks for that! Great effort Freddie 💪🏻
Good job guys. Very entertaining video as usual
Great stuff. Questions and answers often asked to fellow cyclists training and chatting. Keep it rolling Ollie!
I literally cheered Freddie over the line! Must have felt amazing to sprint past the Feather!! Nice work - wish my progression uphill had been that impressive since the last video.
@Biking360
3 жыл бұрын
My progress downhill over the last few years has been amazing. Uphill... Not so much!
That was a great video!! Great work guys
Thanks for going to the effort to make these videos. I went through a similar experience on fulgaz when I forgot to change my weight down to what it actually is. Local berg was so much tougher!
Crazy guys with crazy ideas - love that - keep going and regards from Germany
Loved every minute of this. An entertainment treat. Mega kudos to all three for taking part, but especially Freddie, although like many others I was willing him to change gear towards the top, but he nailed the "sprint" finish.
That bought tears to my eyes. Freddy digs deeps...we all know that gut check moment!
Great Video. This video is very inspirational to people just starting or trying to loose weight. Cycling may be the best sport for seeing amazing change with some repeated effort for those who need encouragement.
Great vid guys and congrats to Freddy. Compliments on his new ride as well - I recently picked up the next step down from that. Same color.
Amazing really. Really good that you guys stuck with the suggestion of keeping Freddie in. Sometimes, it's just hard to relate to see ya'll talking, breaking each other's balls, and cackling while doing a climb / at a fast pace. So seeing Freddie actually struggle like I would when climbing a hill, makes it so relatable, even his improvement is a motivation to be the same. Still though of course, Andrew Feather is an absolute legend, he really is worthy of the namesake of Feather.
Whoever is doing the work in the editing room and the music is brilliant. The suspensful flute music and the flashback black and white scene was hilarious. The track bike build w Manon was great too. The humor isnt lost on me.
Best thing I've seen today, very entertaining. Well done guys!! Yes, riding with a backpack is not ideal, I know as I do all my shopping and running around on a bike. Lastly, I absolutely love Andrew's shoes!! 😀👍
Well done Freddie improved his time and had the instinct to get on that wheel when he was passed and then sprint for the line well done a GCN presenter of the furure Chapeau Freddie
1:07 that power can't be right
@lukasschick3489
3 жыл бұрын
Yes seems to be wrong, if you look on Strava, he did 474W, which is still incredible for his weight
@joewakelin198
3 жыл бұрын
@@lukasschick3489 must have been a typo in the video
@The1trueDave
3 жыл бұрын
@@lukasschick3489 Yeah, I wondered about that - I figured he could probably hold 747w for a minute or so but for five, no way!
Finally one for us 'Giants' of the cycling world, now you racing snakes know hows it feels. Go Freddie you rock!!
Awesome video guys!!
One of the most informative videos! Well, weight balance aside (this wasn’t really a scientific test), the climb does show very well where the difference comes from (how power difference and weight difference combine together). Really, really thank you!
Well done Freddie. Thanks GCN, one of my favorite videos ever. My other half (Cannondale) and I are also around 100kgs.
Great job Freddy on the new level of fitness that was a huge improvement!!!Congratulations on the new bike as well.
Great improvement Freddie! Congrats and thanks for the inspiration
Way to go Freddie! Thank you for the inclusion of a beginner and his progression. I'd be interested to see his progress over the year and what he tackles for training and rides. Great show.
That is some crazy improvement in time!!!!!! Well done...
That was awesome!!! Great point of reference for the heavier cyclists. Currently 135KG and dropping... Big fan of the channel.
@slick007nick
3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work! I too was 135kg when I started cycling in 2019, now 95kg
GCN really is the coolest show. These challenges are awesome fun to watch!
@gcn
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 🙌 We've been enjoying some fun challenges recently! 👉 kzread.info/dash/bejne/kaVmlceId9ewhZs.html
Awesome and hilarious. Great job guys
I just love Freddie, he is my hero! I did the Le Col de Bannerdown a few weeks ago on my Winter bike and only did 12:39. I will switch to my climbing bike and repeat, MUST get under 11 minutes. Hats off to Andrew Feather for taking part, a real good sport. Thanks, great video!
Weight a minute! But Andrew has the Feather powerup...unfair abdavtage?? 😂😂
I am fixing my back this coming week!!!! :O) This is so motivating!!!!!!
Chapeau Freddie, not just for the win and the PB, but also the weight loss... and catching the cycling bug! I did Bannerdown for the first time the other day... it's a really good climb. I did it in 11:57 for the Strava segment, though I was pacing myself as I'd never done it before and I had also just ridden 35 miles to get there. I would need carry around 7kg of ballast and with that I reckon I'd be struggling to break 10 minutes, though I'm pretty sure I could do that when fresh and without the ballast.
Amazing test results! Surprisingly accurate!
Love that you read the comments and take people's requests into account!
@gcn
3 жыл бұрын
Let us know what you want to see next!
Freddie's determination and commitment is great to watch and that sprint finish had me punching the air. One of the best and inspiring videos of seen for a while. Coincidently I had a thought yesterday about having weight categories on Stravas KOM segments. Being new to cycling I had a bit of a go at a KOM the other day and found that obviously a lot of the people up the leader ranks are weighing between 60kg and 70kg. As a 83kg rider I would like to know how I fair against other riders of a similar weight.
this was an amazing video.. haha. good handicap race!! Must have been terrible for the (lower) back!
Freddie is such a sweetheart, greeting his mum really warmed my heart
Nice one Fredster! Very inspiring to myself
Chapeau indeed. Awesome finish.
Great video. Fantastic finishing Freddie! It's nice to see an "ordinary" rider on the show
Fantastic Video! Well done Freddie!
That was excellent. As someone who's somewhere between a beginner and amateur and with a pretty weighty bike (plus a few extra pounds), it's nice to see the playing field levelled somewhat for once!
Great video! We need more of freddie on the channel.
Oh backpacks and bike. If you do another in the future I HIGHLY suggest using the belly band. I have commuted for 5 years on my road big with a 36L bag. Having that extra point of contact for the bag around the waist really helps with the swinging and shifting across your back.
Congratulations to Freddy. Good job and great improvement.👍👍 We need to see more Freddy on GCN.
More Freddie!!! As other people that have stated already, I'd love to see a training plan for Freddie and see how much he can improve. Nice job Freddie!!
Brilliant gains and a even more brilliant finish by Freddie!
Really good clip!
Keep it going freddie maybe we will get gcn following your emprovment over time!!
GCN, please do more hill videos for us older cyclists. Lot's of unknowns out there for us!
You guys crazy but was amazing 👏 well done
I found myself chanting Freddie encouraging him in the sprint finish. Epic work Freddie! V entertaining.
New GCN segment, "Train with Freddy"! Well done Freddy, keep it up !
This was fantastic! Great job Freddie!!
Nice work Freddie. Genuinely great work man!
I found myself cheering for Freddie, that was a great video, very entertaining! And amazing performance Freddie!
Brilliant idea... Wish you showed the beginner previous ride compared to amateur and professional this time... His previous is a good reference for understanding how much the weight makes difference because this time he has improved himself
Awesome vid!
Freddy wins as the sufferlandrian way to go. new name for everyshow with Ollie - "the drop"
Amazing job Freddy! More from him no doubt i hope!
Great video... very inspiring...
Amazing effort and improvement by Freddie! Soon he’ll be ready to take on Si. What ever happened to newbie George, star of the “How long can you hold world hour record pace?” and “How hard is it to ride on the cobbles of Paris Roubaix?” And how about a future cameo of Ollie’s plant - was it a COVID victim or did it move on to greener pastures?
I'm going to add my voice to the multitude - more from Freddie. That's content we need!
Way to go Freddie! Great progress. Keep up the good work👍👏