why did apple make such a mess with the apple pencil? 💀

@CrisCheese_

15 күн бұрын

so once u buy a new ipad u buy a new apple pencil too even tho ur old one works

@kingMohuraKraftehOfBeeland

15 күн бұрын

No, the old one doesnt work due to the new camera pencil, so thay had to redesign the pairing and charging mechanism. This is because magnets would interfere with the camera system.

@phoenixmorphix

14 күн бұрын

​@@kingMohuraKraftehOfBeeland ...and there was no other way to enable support at all; even through external accessories? I doubt it, unfortunately. I'm not giving a trillion dollar company with multiple expert-level engineers the benefit of a doubt over an easily sermonutable problem. Not to come off as rude, but let's be real, they know exactly what they're doing. 😭

@lukchem

12 күн бұрын

Actually it’s not that messy. The only confusing part is the naming. The Apple Pencil Pro should just be called Apple Pencil 3 (because it’s the successor to the second gen similar how the second gen was to the first gen) and the USB-C one should be called Apple Pencil 2 Light or Apple Pencil 2 SE, since it’s just on cheaper version of the second one. With that naming scheme it would be obvious which one is compatible with witch iPad and how the features compare.

@mcch1n

12 күн бұрын

@@lukchemI would argue, it is a mess. All they had to do was make all the new iPads support the apple pencil second generation. Makes no sense why they didn’t make the Apple Pencil USB-c support the wireless charging and pressure sensitivity.

ima just use my lead pencil and push it hard enough onto the screen till it works

@aedan742

13 күн бұрын

honestly dont know why i didnt try that sooner, it even has pressure sensitivity!

@MrUmer245

11 күн бұрын

Frr

@Sepoipaping

8 күн бұрын

@@aedan742The tilt sensitivity tho

@Hash-6624

6 күн бұрын

It would work,just once though

@iamjinswife3245

2 күн бұрын

Lmao 😅

I feel like this should be the naming scheme 1. Apple pencil gen 1 2. Apple Pencil gen 2 3. Apple pencils gen 3 4. Apple Pencil SE

@50Steaks68

6 күн бұрын

That’s a significant improvement

@GamingWLexx

2 күн бұрын

Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ and you will be saved 😄

@musicalized7117

22 сағат бұрын

now it sounds fine as it is

Apple released a pencil that doesn't charge, another one that can't pair, and now the one that won't even work with an old iPad? Sounds like they're drawing up some confusing plans over at Apple

@frederique9680

11 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@harshithreddy3433

9 күн бұрын

Don’t use an Apple Pencil, use an off party one, I am using a non Apple Pencil on my iPad and it works amazing and it’s cheaper than the Apple Pencil

@zs2001

3 күн бұрын

It's just plain abuse of status and forced segmentation by apple. The folks over there know the people really using their ipads depend on specific apps and the ecosystem, who are too deep into the ecosystem. Apple could just as well put all of the features into one basic pencil, but, no, that would affect the segmentation between the pro tablets and the non pro ones. Ffs, it's 2024, almost every android tablet in the same tier comes with a high refresh screen, but not the ipad non pro models. But hey, people need their ipad apps to work and create.

@musicalized7117

22 сағат бұрын

thats marketing for you

It’s wild that they don’t allow apple pencils on phones, like that would be so useful for writing notes and stuff

@deadwife8587

16 күн бұрын

according to apple, that's what the ipad is for

@nylotical

16 күн бұрын

Maybe makes sense on the iPhone Max… but otherwise it’s pretty useless even on the Max. It only is useful when you try to make it useful.

@SovietCat69

15 күн бұрын

It’s probably just so they can make more money by making you to buy an actual iPad, they can’t just let us/give us a pencil like Samsung

@JadedLynxXX

14 күн бұрын

Well that’s why there is Samsung that has the s pens for its phones 😊

@johnpoe3012

12 күн бұрын

@@nylotical i mean samsung has had amazing success with the spen and note phones, there 100% is a market even if it is older people mostly. but i know tons of people who wished it worked on their iphone. plus its only a win for apple cause the apple pen would make them more money if its also supported on the phone

Keeping it short and simple, without a 5 minute long intro explaining the history of Apple as a company. Nice, good work.

The first gen Pencil isn’t compatible with all iPads. It only works with lightning iPads, and the 10th gen iPad (the 10th gen is the only USB-C iPad the the first gen pencil supports) Even with the adapter, it doesn’t work with all USB-C iPads, for some reason (according to the compatibility list on Apple’s website)

@kookesstuff

13 күн бұрын

I’ve read on a reddit post that the gen 1 works with gen 2 compatible ipad How? - You need the apple pencil female to female dongle, the one included in the box of the pencil 1 - Lightning to usb c cable - Connect the pencil to the ipad Now the magic happens with an app called lightblue which allows you to connect to hidden bluetooth devices or in this case the apple pencil 1 Just click apple pencil to pair with it and enter the code 1234 Then it’ll pair and work (Just found this on reddit with the reddit user trying it out on his M1 ipad air and his apple pencil 1)

@HelieNerb

13 күн бұрын

@@kookesstuff Ohh interesting. I have an old Pencil 1 laying around, so I’m gonna try it (just out of curiosity cause i already have a gen 2 pencil)

@HelieNerb

12 күн бұрын

@@kookesstuff I just tried it and it does work. I was able to connect the 1st gen Pencil to my M2 iPad Pro. The funny thing is that Apple Pencil hover does work even with the first gen Pencil haha

@uwu6358

12 күн бұрын

me too, i’m literally trying it now (also have the apple pencil 2nd gen) and 1st gen works like the 2nd (other than the charging and double tap) pencil literally works the same, why won’t apple allow it to be used when it works just as well as the 2nd gen one

@lukchem

12 күн бұрын

@@kookesstuffYou don’t even need an adapter, you can just plug it into an Lightning iPhone (if you still have one) which will still turn it on and let’s you pair it via an BlueTooth controller app like LightBlue.

Remember a year ago when it was js Apple Pencil 1 and 2?? Wouldn’t it make more sense to js call it Apple Pencil 3?

@nylotical

16 күн бұрын

No because it’s *professional* 😂

@NeoEsLatino

16 күн бұрын

@@nylotical ahhh makes sense 🤦🏻‍♂️

@michaeljamesm

7 күн бұрын

@@nylotical obviously mr apple is behind the curve we don’t want “Pro” anymore we want “AI” should be called “apples pen pencil AI” obviously or just apple pencil 3.. 3 is fine!

@nylotical

5 күн бұрын

@@michaeljamesm I’m under the impression that the pencil 3 will be a sort of new replacement for the 2 and work with the future Mini and regular iPad models. Then the Pros/Airs have their own pencil?

@musicalized7117

22 сағат бұрын

no because its Orwellian

Apple pencil is literally the only reason i'd consider an iPad, yet they decided to mess with them. Now that Samsung tablets come with a pen while being cheaper and has better compatibility with other non Apple products, buying an iPad really makes no sense.

@50Steaks68

6 күн бұрын

The apps are better for artists.

@adrianl4040

6 күн бұрын

@@50Steaks68 better software is a fair point for professionals to continue to buy an iPad, but that doesn't let Apple abuse their power.

@zs2001

3 күн бұрын

The apps, man, the apps. Otherwise this abuse of power would definitely have taken down apple's tab lineup by now.

@gyernon

Күн бұрын

​​@@50Steaks68Krita exists and is free (I used to draw on an ipad and procreate)

apple pencil first gen is not compatible with every ipad in the lineup, it’s only for the ones with the home button + 10th gen ipad

@yaiyaito

15 күн бұрын

Basically it is, you have to install LightBlue and pair your (non baseline) iPad with your 1.Gen Apple pencil, and works perfectly

Apple Pencil first gen DOES MAGNETICALLY ATTACH to iPads! It’s just a lot looser than the newer pencils. But it magnetically attaches to my iPad 9th gen!

the og lightning apple pencil 1st generation does actually support pressure sensitivity, but the apple pencil usbc doesn’t, i suppose that explains why its 20 dollars cheaper than the lightning one

Fun fact: I have an apple pencil 2nd generation and a m2 ipad pro 11 inch and i can confidently say that the magnets are not in the dead center but infact, there are 2 magnets in the pencil and the ipad which means they could’ve fit a camera that didn’t have an ois anyways along with the magnets, the only reason they changed the design is so that people buy the newer and better ones even though everybody knows m2 is more than capable enough to handle ipad apps. The only stress i faced on the ipad was prolonged gaming sessions and video editing which would be slight faster but most of the people won’t feel the difference unless they look at it side by side.

thank your for explaining this so well!

I love the haptic features of the Pencil Pro a lot more than I thought I would. My biggest complaint over the 2nd Gen Pencil, was that I would accidentally activate the double tab feature, which would switch my current brush to an eraser (or vice versa). This caused so many mistakes that I would disable it entirely. I still do this with the Pencil Pro, but at least I feel it now and can switch it back before I make a mistake while drawing.

Rotten Apple has become one of my favorite tech creators one this site

only buy the pencil 1 if your ipad has a lighting port. only buy the usbc apple pen if you have the 10th gen ipad. buy the 2nd gen if your ipad supports it. buy the pencil pro if you have one of the 2024 ipads.

It's like Apple is trying to force us to buy a new tablet in order to use a new Apple Pencil Pro. That's sucks...

Will Apple Pencil usbc magnetically attach to the new iPad Pro like the Apple Pencil pro?

I actually have the first gen Apple Pencil from 2015. It does have pressure sense but I don’t have an iPad Pro, I have the 8th generation iPad (since it was new at the time)

i have the first apple pencil and i don’t like it - like the lid for it i’ve lost it.. it’s annoying and i can’t find the lid. plus when i charge it, it kinda falls out. so yeah. i like the apple pencil that charges on the i pad. and the hover ones are ok

wait is this rottens first sponsor or not cause awesome cable!!!

Apple Pencil 2 doesn't support Hover feature or is it locked too M... iPads cause my Air 4 doesn't support it

Off topic but: 0:25 This, made my brain click. And now I’m just waiting for my iPad Pro to update so I can try the lightblue workaround I heard of. If it works, thank you :D. If it doesn’t, well atleast it reminded me my Apple Pencil still exists and I should use it on my old iPad someday.

I see where they’re going with their pencil strategy. With the new iPad Pro and Air, you have two options, the cheaper USB-C pencil or the pencil pro. And i think they want to keep only these two pencils in the future, so when all iPads will be refreshed you’ll just pick if you want the cheaper pencil or the pro one. But since not all iPads have been updated yet they still have to sell all four pencils and it makes everything confusing

@krisonair

6 күн бұрын

That would make sense but I also can see Apple releasing new iPad 11th gen without support for Apple Pencil Pro and leaving you with only Apple Pencil USB-C as an option to encourage you to get at least Air… Of course, for the sake of all of us, I hope I’m wrong

I was so happy when you used the Nintendo eshop theme at 2:46

i was legit going to get the new m2 ipad air, but decided against it because I'd had to buy the new pencil pro. apple hates money i guess

What does it mean by not compatible does it means that only it will not be able to charge or we will not be even be able to use it on the iPad

@notrottenapple

11 күн бұрын

if it can’t pair the pencil to the ipad, then you won’t be able to use it. usually if it can’t charge, it also can’t pair… so you can’t use it!

That sponsor spot where he subtly points out the 100W cable is only USB 2.0 💀

@pretty_bored

14 сағат бұрын

same speed as usb micro 💀

whats ur specs? are you a m1?

Do you know if the nib is replaceable in case it gets worn out? The older pencils, they are. 😊

@krisonair

6 күн бұрын

Just to confirm, this is taken directly from Apple Store: Keep extra tips for your Apple Pencil at the ready. Compatible with Apple Pencil Pro, Apple Pencil (2nd generation), Apple Pencil (USB-C), and Apple Pencil (1st generation). Made by Apple.

ipad 10th gen does is compatible with apple pencil usb-c.

1:14 the text faces in though, not like shown here

If you are buying an Apple product and the deal seems too good to be true, it probably is.

i’m happy with my m2 ipad and g2 pencil. no need to spend unnecessary money on these slight changes.

If the Apple Pencil gen 1 have a usb c adapter, why doesn’t apple market it all across iPad. Many say it won’t work with pro or air

God The New iPad Pro & Pencil Pro, gonna start my journey in learning art and drawing.

Watching on the new m4 pro and the magnet is right above the camera lol

I pre ordered ipad air m2 11 inch and apple pencil pro and it came on the 18th of may

0:20 according to apple 1st gen pencil is only compatible with iPad mini (5th generation) iPad (6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, and 10th generations) iPad Air (3rd generation), not every iPad in the lineup

Thats why I use apple pencil first generation bcuz of the pressure sensitivity

I’m getting the 11 inch iPad Air for school and my birthday!

2:06 that wallpaper tho lol

I bought a pencil from Best Buy and it didn’t work. It sits in the drawer 😢

4:15 currently watching this on my iPad that supports Apple Pencil pro 😶

I remember the good old days of only one model

Me with a tab S6 lite having basically the same features for a quarter of the price (except for the pro pencil)

Apple Pencil 2nd Generation does not work on the iPad Pro M4s, only the Apple Pencil Pro. It's so frustrating because I want to upgrade my iPad to the new one, but my Pencil works fine!!! God damn it dude.

I prefer the USB-C one because it's more practical for note-taking. I'm not an artist, so sensitivity doesn't matter to me, and I can charge it without removing my pencil or iPad from their cases👍🏻

And more reason not buying new Ipad but buying previous geneneration and 2nd gen apple pencil from second hand or refurbished

The Apple pen 1st is only for iPad 10 gen and 9 gen or older iPad ! Not for all

Got the m4 and pro pencil 😋

0:24 the only one i can use 3:26 not mine

i got the second gen pencil (refurbished of course) because i thought the first gen didnt work with the ipad pro i got. goddamn apple upselling😩😩

dang i was considering getting the m2 air and a gen 2 pencil, i really don’t have any need for the pro pencil so i’ll probably just get an m1 air. thanks for the helpful video! edit: APPARENTLY the pencil pro is the same price as the gen 2 pencil (apple never lowered the price of the gen2)?? apple makes the wildest decisions lmao

Literally : “Sell me this pen”

It’s confusing now, but I guarantee the first two pencils will get immediately killed off the second the new iPad Mini comes out. The first gen is literally one of the oldest things in Apple’s current catalog and is easily THE oldest mainstream accessory they still sell, while the second gen is literally the same design and price as the Pro, they’re clearly just keeping it around for the Mini. It’ll probably be both of them but I’ll be so sad if the first gen outlives the second.

You forgot to mention that you can locate now your pencil pro if u lost it like an AirTag

@notrottenapple

10 күн бұрын

I actually did mention it has Find My

So if want the new iPad Pro or air you have to buy the expensive new pencil pro or the cheaper usbc pencil which is worse than the pencil 2 which most people who are upgrading already have 😂

Ima just make the diy stylus and use it cuz I ain’t got this much cash on me 😅😂

The first gen pencil is NOT compatible with any iPad Apple currently sells apart from the 10th gen iPad.

What do you mean that there are four apple pencils?

The pencil 1 only supports lighting iPads and the 10

tbh in my opinion i thing the apple pencil 2nd gen is better you dont need any cables for the pencil why did ipad make a mess with the apple pencil

Sooooo if Apple simply released a charging doc the Apple Pencil Pro could work with other iPads.....? But just not magnetically attach..k

I told my mom immediately about the Pencil Pro when it was announced, because she draws on her iPad a lot. But I hope she didn't buy one because she's gonna have to buy a new iPad if she did.

Apple is clear and simple you don't have to rack your brain. Apple:

Short answer:- Just stick to the OG apple pencil or the second gen apple pencil if you got a little more money

I’m not ready to give up my Apple Pencil 2. Apple’s out here playing with people’s emotions and paychecks frfr.

My iPads too old to use any Apple pencil

Guys wake up Rotton Apple uploaded.

Et oh de base y’en avait que 2..

Those pencils are more expensive than my rent

@v1nce502

6 күн бұрын

Rent is not $100 unless you live in a third wall country

@Papasot

6 күн бұрын

@@v1nce502 I live in Greece and the rent is 260€ but I live with a friend of mine and the rent splits so I play 130€

Orrr just buy a samsung Tab s8/s9 ultra and get a free s pen for which you don't have to pay 130 bucks for. Even if you don't like it you can use any Wacom pen with it since s pen uses the same technology

Couldn’t they just make only one pencil and that could be Apple Pencil second gen😭😭

100w charge ur mac from 0 to 50 in half an hour.... men my one plus uses 60w and it charge from 0 to 100 in 18 minutes XD

Moral of the story: get the most expensive one

Bro does NOT have enough subscribers!

Why couldn’t they just call it Pencil SE, Pencil 1, Pencil 2, and Pencil 3

new banger

Theres a typo here, 3:41, it should be, "releasing".

@pretty_bored

13 сағат бұрын

"theres a typo here" 🤓

@CrustyHead2465

13 сағат бұрын

@@pretty_bored i was just informing him about that, since i dont think anyone pointed it out.

@pretty_bored

2 сағат бұрын

@@CrustyHead2465 ok

i have a gen 1 pencil

I have the 1st Gen

That’s why I have the knock off stylus 😭

I have the pro

guys dont buy apple pencils middle aged carrots work aswell!

the pencil 1st gen (usb c) shouldn’t exist it serves no purpose and no pressure sensitivity makes it useless

People expecting apple to be good: 😭 Me with Samsung set up. Ehm guys you know apple is not the only brand and often than not, non apple product is better.

10th gen dont support magnet !!!

Wait mines tip is black and has a metal mesh rubber thing what kind of Apple Pencil do I have 😭

I have no apple products and do NOT plan on sinking into this capitalist trap but damn this is INFURIATING 💀💀

Just buy logitech crayon 2🗣

they all suck just buy a galaxy tab

The 1st gen Apple pencil absolutely isn't compatible with iPad Air M1 and iPad Pro M2. I thought you're a hardcore Apple fan, how did you mess up this badly?

Man I use android why am I even here???

2nd hate for a apple pencil + 13th comment

Get a proper Samsung tablet first.

USB c not having pressure sense in making me Tripp. But actually I have Apple Pencil magnetic

you deserve a zillion subscriubersref"!ô

@Randi_MyMan

16 күн бұрын

are you ok