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Beat Grid with Traktor Pro 2
Beat grid in traktor - it's easy - especially with zooming.
You're ears always should be the indicator of a good beatgrid!
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How to beatgrid using Traktor Pro 2, making use of the wave for zoom function.
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I am happy that you have got something out of my videos - thank you for taking the time to respond! Have a great day!
First of all thank you very much for taking the time to make this video when there indeed are so many others out there. You didn't have to take that time, but you did for the reasons that I'm GLAD of!! You explained, in much more detail and sense, everything the other people didn't go over in the other videos. You took your time in the settings, you explained how the 2 buttons below the move points buttons are "expand grid" buttons.I may be common knowledge, but I didn't know that.
Nice simple tute, especially useful as you include the prefs set-up that a lot of other tutes miss out. Cheers
This brings back so many good memories
After watching this video three or four times I finally understood what I have to do, now it works property :) Thanks for making awesome videos :)
Thank you for your time and your video tutorial. I just calibrated my Traktor Pro-2.
You can - but i would say that the reason we DJ is to make things 'sound' good. So using your ear, will always make it 'sound' better. The visual representation, is always pretty spot on, but its what you 'hear' that's important! ;-)
You're welcome - thanks for taking the time to thank me.
@IOTA1985 Yeah - traktor may not lay down the right grid, in which case you have to move it using the buttons. Looks like you figured out what snap does too, so thats cool. Keep having a play with it and it'll all come easier. Thanks for posting.
I was just about to throw my Traktor Kontrol S4 out the fucking window cuz I was so pissed it didn't sync.. Thank god for you man, you just saved me some money!
however you do it is great! Using your ears is the best way to mix - if two synced tracks go out, you can just use the nudge functions to get the time back. (for this to work settings need to be set to 'tempo sync' instead of 'beat sync'. Have fun!
So handy. Love traktor. Just got a new mapping for it. Have the S2 want to graduate to the S4 soon.
@sickenChill When you connect the gear, audio setup becomes external. This would therefore mean that all tempo controls are now controlled by the decks and not by the internal settings. You can click internal mode again and revert to the synced way of DJ'ing and then you'll be good. When using CDs to mix I would recommend using the phase meters as a guide and set the deck playing out as the master and the overall metronome to Auto.
@katoman20 depends what set up you're using and how you want it. The tick can be checked at the top under the metronome section - or there is a little headphone symbol in the advanced drop down under each deck. That headphone symbol is also a tick but it goes though the monitor channel, so whatever output you have set for the monitor change in the prefs is where you will see it - cheers.
I love the fact that KZread has a "watch later" function because now I can queue it and watch it when I get home from work.
@BRYDEN1985 Maybe this new vid will answer your questions - i can't link here but check out the video called "Tempo Range"
@sickenChill Ableton warps the track in a very clever way, traktor doesn't man-handle the track quite as much, but overlays a simple grid. Ableton is very precise once you have mastered it and is a more precise way of stretching and manipulating the track. Traktor does the job for most DJ's and is a great way to keep beat grid ding simple.
@topfluffer Also, if you are using scratch mode, make sure the deck you are playing is set to master, then when you are beatmatching the track on deck b, the phase meter shows you how aligned the tracks are, but only if the beatgrid is set correctly. If you are beatmatching by ear, make sure the sync is off, as the sync reverts the deck to internal mode again.
Sorry for the delay here - I am not sure I understand your question! Have you figured this out now?
@topfluffer Maybe press the reset button in the deck to erase the things you have already done on that deck. Make sure there is only one grid marker set on the track. If zoomed out you may not realise that the marker is actually moving as it moves such a tiny amount. Try it with the tick sounding too and you should notice a difference in alignment of the tick sound!
Some tracks might have an unsteady tempo which could cause them to "go out of sync". When using tracks like this, it's best to know how to manually change the tempos.
You need to analyse the tracks to be able to see the smaller waveform at the bottom - you can either set traktor to analyse on loading into deck, or on importing your music folders, or by right clicking the track in the browser and clicking 'analyse'
If it sounds wrong, make sure you have done the same procedure to both tracks. Also it is your Ear that tells you truly if it is in time or not. So if you must nudge the beat grid one tick to the left or right, then do so. Thanks for watching!
@chubstar666 I think Traktor will quantitize for you, all you need to do is place a few more beat grid points and adjust as necessary. What I do for tricky songs is put a grid marker at key points in the song or (generally) after 32 beats and then push the grid where it needs to go. hope that helps
Great tutorial, straight to the point and clear. Thanks bro
Thanks for commenting - it doesnt really matter what the speed you set things at when you are beat gridding - I know Traktors auto grid functions have improved over time, but if you want to fine tune the grid, listening to the tick enables this. As you say though, there is no harm in setting the master clock to the interpreted bpm of the track. Thanks
@sickenChill one point that was missed, once you do all this work for each track and it sounds great where you have it, make sure you push the lock (top left of bpm box), this will save your grid so when you later use this song the grid will be setup correctly, otherwise you'll have to redo this everytime.
@ahrisp Thanks for the comment - glad I could be of service to you.
Yes, you do need to work at some tracks, as others who DJ hip hop or other tracks with a varied tempo are figuring out - it's not as easy as pressing play! This is why the sample decks come in useful.
@flux302 I'll try and get a video like that up - many people have questions in relation to setting grids on tracks that change tempo.... cheers.
Thanks - glad you like!
@topfluffer There is still a benefit to beatgrid even if you use external scratch control. You can use the phase meter on each deck as a guide to see how accurate your mixing is. But make sure sync is off. As soon as you press the sync button it will jump away from the vinyl message as to where in the track it is, unless you are in absolute mode. You can still control the track with the vinyl, but the speed will be controlled by the internal clock. set deck to master before u switch to intern
@katoman20 - I just made a post - go check it on my website traktortips . com
I propose to make a video for this - it is a little tricky, but do-able. Best thing to do with those tracks is mix them old school style, good old fashioned listening. If you aren't using cd or vinyl control though you have to do a little more. In brief you can figure out what the tempo is at a certain point, create a loop labelled with the bpm, then set it as the master, sync the new incoming track to that. (rough idea, but it may trigger something for you)
Thanks mate, really helped me understand why the my track were not syncing ;]
@IOTA1985 contrary to popular belief ...Traktors sync button works well when u beat grid each track as shown here. alot of work is to be done on every track before a flawless set can be done.
Great tutorial mate!
Thanks. I'm still too cheap to upgrade to Traktor 3 but this made my life a lot simpler. Gridding for choppy breakbeat forward drum and bass is the devil. Traktor is too dumb to figure it out.
Thanks...that got me in the zone!
@traktortips
10 жыл бұрын
haha - awesome!
@katoman20 hey man thanks - yeah you need to make sure that you have the volume up in the headphones for the tick, or make sure the audio routing is going through the right channels.
awesome video really useful hope you make more tutorials thumbs up!!!!!!!
Cheers for the info. Good demo
@MAXYkissmeimcool - You need to snap and quantize - in TP2 you will see them top centre. The buttons simply have an 'S' and a 'Q' on them.
I guess the tick chimes each time the white line passes the "needle" so technically you are moving the tick around so that it lines up with the beat. It is the tick (the beat grid) , that you are moving.
Sometimes tracks are made with varying tempos - or people rip their vinyl tracks into digital format - this will cause a track to not beat grid perfectly. It's the way it - is - yes - there a ways around it - but DJ'ing manually is the best and simplest solution here.
@Audionstudios Yes - it will be saved.
@moriamortem Hey - did you lay the grid marker down and have you changed the preferences to show full grid lines instead of faint lines?
Thanks George - is there any specific tutorials you would like to see?
I have been a fan of Live's warping system for a few years too man. Just made the switch to Traktor and am finding this beat grid idea a little frustrating too..
Hi. I'm loading the track to deck and i can only see the big waveform. The smallest one, on the bottom doesn't appear [whole track wave]. Do you know where can i switch on that function ?
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hey there.....great video, i learned quite a bit with this.....im having trouble with my traktor though.....its playing my songs way quicker than the bpm is showing and i have to move the tempo down to get it sounding right.....any tips on how to fix this pleas???
Brilliant video. Am struggling with old skool hip-hop though... I beatgrid the intro so i can mix into it with loops, but then the grid is wrong by the time I get to the end of the track, and if I tweak it so the grid is right at the end, it's wrong at the start. Frustrating... Might be worth taking these tunes into Logic and using Flex Time to quantize them to a beat I guess?
You can download it right from native instruments website.
Excellent simplified tutorial.
@traktortips
9 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
Very helpful mate!
@traktortips yeah I know.. But the problem is setting the beatgrid correctly.. Cus' for some reason, no matter how many accurate beatgrid markers i set, the bpm doesn't change at all.. so the other lines doesn't allign up with the beats..
Can you do this purely by visually zooming in on the markers and adjusting near the end of the track after youve set the start point? Rather than having the metronome going as well?
Did you get this sorted?
thanks man, that worked perfect!
@assais Hey thanks - if you install onto the same computer you will be fine, albeit you will still have to re-analyse the entire collection. If you install onto a completely different computer you will have to copy your entire traktor music library onto the new computer also - I have a video showing you how i manage libraries between 2 computers......."Transfer Collection"
Been checking out a few videos on traktor as i've been thinking about having a play with it, but the whole beat grid thing really puts me off and i dont really know why, maybe i just need to spend some time with it. I am massively into ableton live, so it will take something pretty special for me to make a switch. Live just makes traktor beat grids look very clumsy to set up..... Maybe i am wrong....... But something is still telling me to try traktor! haha ;-)
Thanks so much
Thanks so much!
It should work fine with multiple installs, but maybe something is wrong with the paths - I'd head over to their support (I can't post links here) google native instruments support.
Have you figured this out - apologies about the delayed response time over here! ;-)
I'm sorry if this is a hideously noobish query, but I've been playing around with traktor for a few months now and have switched from a PC to a Mac. Since doing this, and importing my music, many of the songs do not have a constant beat grid of a BPM; instead they just place grid lines only on certain notes. This is resulting in my library not showing the BPM's in the BPM column. Even when I "analyse" this problem still persists. I am using Traktor SP2 in conjuction with a Numark N4,
Once u have done with the beat gridding, do you need to like save the track or it will automatically saved in the system?
It can be complicated to have 2 beatgrids set up on one track! It is better to remove the sync at this point and perform a manual beat match (practice the original art of Dj'ing and setting 2 tracks to the same speed - it will benefit you a lot) ;-)
I believe so!
@traktortips well there's a bunch of problems when im trying to do this.. I usually just mix with timecoded externally, so I wouldnt bother that much about the grid, but what bothers me is that traktor messes up with the bpm detection, and I guess that's connected with the grid markers.. But when I set the marker, the other lines doesnt follow the rest of the beats.. the bpm count never changes even though I try to set the grid markers differently..
@Wigley2010 Thank you!
im new to this do i need to do this to every track..
This helped me a lot. Thanks very much! :)
@traktortips
9 жыл бұрын
Kyle Macinnes cool! ;-)
at last top man!!!! thank you....
Another work around for non-EDM and variable BPMs is to set loops for the varied beat sections where you might want to mix - check out this tutorial in using non-EDM - search for 'Advanced Dj Tutorial- Mixing Non-Electronic Songs into a Set' by Ean Golden on KZread (continues)
you need to make sure all your audio routing is set up correctly so you can hear the tick. (sorry for late reply) I'm sure you've got it by now! :-)
@west818coastin Thanks for the comments
Once you close the program everything saves!
i cant here the tick haha.. beatgriding is like a short loop to me also.. is the ticking sound came from the song that you beatgrid?
What if the beatgrid is set correctly on the first half of the track, but not on the second half? What do I do in that case?
Thanks
and on my PC, I could just press the Tap tempo in time with the song and it would just place these markers automatically. Is there anyway I can revert traktor to do what my PC did? And will this enable traktor to log my BPMs. Apologies if this makes little sense.
i found a way but not sure if correct. if a bpm is same on 2 decks but gets off i spin the wheel to the beat of the first and then the second song gets in sync :) happy
Sometime when I mixing track, the bpm are set and the beats a re matched, yet eventually its starts going off beat. Is the a beat grid problem? Also with loops, they eventually go off beat when everything is (supposedly) set correctly
@traktortips thank you for the reply! n if you don't mind i have another question.. after i beat grid a few track to test it out ( it sound great with just the macbook n my headphone) but when i hook it up to my cdj's n mixer, all the tracks does not sync..doesn't matter what i do. Any solution to that problem? thanks
It should work fine with multiple installs, but maybe something is wrong with the paths - I'd head over to their support google native instruments support.
thanks!
@traktortips For some reason.. This doesn't work for me at all.. When I set a gridmarker, the other gridmarkers doesnt move at all... and they wont move when I use the grid marker arrows as well.. What am I doing wrong?
Sorry, I didn't mean to ignore you for this long. Have you figured this out now? It saves each time, so only once to each track. Doing it every time, would be more like the original way of DJ'ing ;-)
can u help me. when i place the markers and i play with tick. the tick matches the beat for like 25 seconds then it start mess up
I do have set sync on both decks, it does work, it says the tempo is the same (126.20 for example). But it always is out of sync! It does have the same tempo, like Boom ---1 sec --- Boom, and the other deck Tsss --- 1 sec --- Tsss, but it's like Boom --- half sec --- Tsss --- half sec --- Boom --- half sec --- Tsss... How do I fix that?
If you mean beat gridding songs with time sig other than 4/4, such as 3/4, syncopated jazz, african or latin beats, drum n bass or hip hop, these two tutorials should help - search for How to Beat Grid Hip-Hop in Traktor (eangolden) Traktor Beatgrids Revisited Part 2: Drum n Bass & Dubstep (iTubeYou)
Was it a mistake or why did you check a 122bpm track with a 118 Tick?
thanks very helpful!
how can i map one button to use my grid or cue as a load option in the drop down bar
What about songs that go in and out of different Time signatures?
this just like warping on ableton right? mayb a lil less work than ableton 8?
hi there!!!in some mash-up,bootleg,booty mixed track's it's very hard to corect the beatgrid...at the start of the track the beatgrid it's good but at the end it's totally wrong...:( if i try to fix the beatgrid it will mess my beatgrid...how can i fix this problem??? (sorry for my english)
is there a way to delete a beatgrid? i kinda made a mistake and dunno how :S
@traktortips
10 жыл бұрын
yep - hit the grid marker and then the delete button. (looks like a bin)