Advanced Traktor Tips: Ean's Beatgrid Tuning Secrets
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Ean explains his method of perfecting beatgrids on his tracks before ever using them in a DJ set.
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There's normally a point in the song where the bpm changes. When you find this point (where the song starts getting out of beat) make a new beatgrid on that point, just like you do regularly at the beginning of a song. From that point on, the new grid will line up (unless there is yet another point where the song changes bpm). If you don't know how to do that, it's just making a cue point where the song changes, and changing the type from cue to grid in the cue section. Hope this helps.
Summary: use BeatSync when fine-editing beatgrid, because that'll make track stick to grid in real time, and use TempoSync when playing live, because that'll give you possibility to use tempo bend for beatmatching songs on the fly (if 2 grids don't match well) Good tip Ean
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4 жыл бұрын
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Hey Ean thanks for the vid, the tip on mapping "move beat grid" was great . A follow up I and I'm sure a number of other Traktorheads have (and that I've been having trouble finding on the web as a whole) are strategies for approaching songs with tempo changes, any tips? Because this would make for a great video, especially for song with extended accelerandos/retardandos. For anyone reading this who knows you can only have the beatgrid at one tempo, so far I think the best method is this: 1-determine the different tempos of the sections that keep consistent time, record them in the comments. 2-map cues to the beginning of each section. 3-have a hotkey that allows you to toggle the cue type between cue and beatgrid, so you can switch the first section's off, and the next section on during the acceleration/deceleration. 4-(because you can only have one tempo attached to the track) for the sections at a different tempo than the bpm attached to the track, have another hotkey mapped that allows you to change the master clock. The process is super quick if you map all the hotkeys to the numberpad. Have cue toggle for each, as soon as you enter the acceleration/deceleration section, disable the first beatgrid (first hotkey) and enable the second (second hotkey) before hitting your hotkey to change the bpm (third hotkey, then numlock and your hands been on the pad the whole time). works for any number of tempo changes. Cheers gearheads!
@abteinjaeger7005
7 жыл бұрын
this was a useful comment.. I'm still becoming familiar with everything in the electronic world. will be referring to this once I get to that point of understanding how to execute it all
I have been a vinyl dj for 15 years and still have my Technics SL1210M5Gs from around 2002 and love them. I have Traktor Scratch now and while I do still value beatmatching (the phase meter makes it WAY easier though) I think if you are using more than 2 decks and triggering samples, loops, or doing live mash-ups or whatever sync is OK. However, I admit if someone mixed 2 tracks and an a Capella while triggering samples/scratching WITHOUT using sync I would be blown away.
Awesome video Ean. Learned so much from you guys!! Your the best!!
Beatgridding this way in Traktor is very similar to the way Ableton Live works where you Warp the tracks to the master tempo. Tracks that are Warped correctly to the master tempo always play in sync with each other. Nice to know that Traktor has the same type of option.
It's sometimes funny that I can support people who have issues with traktor since I do not use it and just enjoy watching these videos.
This is something I do with all my tracks when I import them. Even though I don't use sync mode, I like to have beatgrids perfectly set to the start of the beat. I find Traktor auto beatgrids often put the beat at the loudest part of the kick, so you miss out on the attack of the sound if you put a cue point on it. I'm a DJ who likes to be prepared and know that every track in my library is properly setup with cue points and beatgrids.
damn... just started using traktor. these tips of urs will really help me out. Thanks a lot Ean. You're Awesome. :)
Nice, i'm an advanced traktor user... but i didn't know the difference between BeatSync and TempoSync in the settings for transport. good tip
@gioguanche
9 жыл бұрын
+Jake Sigal >.>
@selin8912
8 жыл бұрын
well it looks like you weren't a really advanced user of traktor
ok i got it now. if you download the song you will understand what I'm talking about. so what i did was rather then set the second grid marker at the the beginning of the first build up i set it at the drop. the only part that will be off if sync is on will be the first build up because its such a drastic bpm change.
@DJ TechTools The question I had, or what I was looking for is how do you get songs gridded that change tempo slightly? Like I have plenty of songs where they'll be in sync, on beat, tempo whatever for awhile but then within several bars the beat grid is now off the beat. And I can essentially only adjust the beat grid to be on time to a certain section of the song, you know what I mean? I figured Traktor might be advanced enough to place beat markers on every detected beat instead of putting them at consistent intervals throughout a song at a median place...
@armanimakingbangers7016
6 жыл бұрын
pottedcat I have the same problem. I also own Virtual DJ 8 with Pro licensing and I'm able to fine tune dynamic / live band songs like disco and classic rock to each individual beat and even dramatic tempo changes such in electronic music. I would expect Traktor Pro 2 to be able to do the same.
Thanks Ian superbly insightful video..
You can do that, search for the Set Gridmarker button on the Grid panel, it will be shown after a couple of click on the tittle of the deck. You'll need to have the right bpm, and set the Gridmarker at the start of the beat.
This is pretty similar to how I do it except I like to use a 1 bar loop as opposed to the metronome. For me it's easier to hear if the kicks are properly in phase when I have two of them playing together. I just use the same 1 bar loop every time and then check it against another track before I lock it and move on. Really love your work though man, you think of a lot of things that would never have occurred to me :D
I adjust the beatgrid moving the first marker (even in live if it's not perfect, I remove the marker, I set new cue marker and I set it to beatgrid) and I use the beatsync... when the music tempo is variable I do this, i use the beatsync, I play the track, but I remove the sync almost immediately and I adjust the tempo manually while both tracks are playing.
Beatgrids are about ensuring sync in tempo - not every song will sound good together, regardless of whether they are perfectly in sync. When Ean says that there's a high probability of it sounding good, he means in terms of tempo/sync - not that it magically makes any song mix with another.
Agreed, this video does miss out the most important part of mixing and that is your own knowledge of your tracks and what to play next. Its something that I see all over the place these days, like everybody is looking for some dj'ing by numbers formula to propel them into superstardom or something - good luck with that. The track in the background though is Everyday by Adana Twins. It's a massive tune, personally I like mixing it into Missing Love by The Mekanism because I like the way they sou
cool tutorial simple turn your synq of and do like us old skool dj all by the ear takes practice but if your software fails i find it easy to use your platters and your ears to bring them in synq if the grid is off but thanks for explaining that metronoom i whas always asking myself why is it there and whats the use of it now i know it :) :) :)
Thanks Ean! Awesome info and practices, ... as usual!
This is all very well when using traktor friendly tracks (techno or house) with spot on bpm values (ie...128.000). But When using hard house tracks you'll realize that bpm values are not spot on and they only beatgrid with bpm values slightly off (ie...142.882). There is alot of videos on youtube explaining how to beatgrid using these traktor friendly tracks, but not one video showing how to beatgrid tracks with these difficult bpm values. I would love to see you produce a video explaining how you would resolve this issue.
@philtro99
8 жыл бұрын
+forenzic1 You could just start playing better music. Ok I kid I kid
@analogdistortion
5 жыл бұрын
It's got nothing to do with hard house. Hard house is mostly recorded on a computer and outputted digitally via wav/mp3/flac/etc. It's when you have recordings ripped from vinyl that you will get a straying BPM that will move around. It's much worse when the vinyl deck isn't a very good quality one.
@analogdistortion
5 жыл бұрын
If you're desperate you can find how to fix the entire tune down to a locked BPM in Ableton. It's not much work.
You have to adjust the markers manually. Usually the drift isn't as bad as it would indicate and it's actually less work than it sounds. Also you can warp the songs in Ableton to eliminate the drift entirely which changes the song slightly but makes it mix very clean.
I gave this a try and found out that some of my tracks have a totally wrong BPM as well :D It will take some time to get through al my tracks . but when it is done I bet things will be much easier!
Thanks for the video. It is very clear however i cannot set grids in one song as it seems it has different tempo on the begining and the end. in fact it transforms itself into different song. how can i see grids then? all i prefectly set in the first 50% of the song but then grid is getting more and more off and why i try to adjust it , it is messing up all the previous grids.. hopeless...
thank u man, i just aprreciate u doin all these vids, u rock ean!
I don't know what Traktor 2.5's new beatgrid is doing but I would recommend using Abelton to warp the track and export it at a constant BPM.
Yo, if you go through the archives on djtt they covered how to do this maybe a year ago or even a little more.
Either works. People have been manually beatmatching for ages. I remember the first time I played I was forced to use Serato ITCH with a VCI-300 instead of the N4 I had been using. Soooo.... I had to do everything manually, and it turns out you learn fast enough. It also felt like it forced me to pay more attention to the songs and mix itself rather than which effect or trick to throw in. I'd say, just try it for yourself, and see what you like!
In traktor, no it's not unfortunately although Serato does allow this. I'm not sure about the others like Mixvibes etc Traktor only allows you to have one tempo set, so only one beatgrid. You'll have to do the 90 by ear.
Art in general doesn't rely on techniques or technology. Art is about what you make out of your ideas. Everyone got his/her own style, some use their syncing skill to show off they're awesome, some want to concentrate on the MIDI-controlled effects. Just making life easier on the syncing that some don't like do to that much gives them much more effort because they can concentrate on what they actually want to do: be creative. As a controllerist you got some more complex topics to take care of.
I think S2 or S4 are the best options. and turn of the auto sync for the first half year ;) i started wit the s4 and i am still happy ( of course i got some turntables now, too) but you can add additional stuff if you want to. there is a reason, why can uses tractor...its the best!
i partially agree with you. if your laptop broke on stage, would you have backup cd's and be able to use the bar's stock CDJ's? If the answer is no, then you should have listened to those haters and learned how to to play on CDJ's/turntables. But if you do come from a traditional dj background, then you are right.
Brilliant mate, this is something I may never have otherwise found out about :) Regards @jlaffan
Evening Ean Thank you for the great tutorial on youtube please can you tell how I can batch process tracks if at all possible through tractor when beat gridding using the tick metranon although you have done a tutorial on this you did mention in your tutorial about batch processing your tracks please will you be kind enough to give me some tips on this loving the traktor programme and your tutorial respect Mark Salter
i onley hold on the sync button and the pitch bender automatic sets on the same tempo as the first song is playin perfect inline without doing or messing around with options :) i have no boblems with sync 2 songs toheter perfect but its good to know more
I just bought Traktor 2. I've been watching a lot of your videos to get familiar with the software. Your videos are very informative. I have a question. whenever I record a mix, where would i find the settings that allow me to make the mix not joined in one but separate so i can skip through the tracks during playback.
the link for watching the beatgridding tutorial does not work, and i don't quite understand the last tip of the kick and the snare if you could explain it better in another video, that would be great (I don't speak english very well but your videos have helped me a lot, i am from Venezuela)
I was using cdj's but decided to move to Tractor. I do not know a lot about the programme on a deep level. I brought the S8, got it out the box, hooked it up to my Mac book and i have done two, 1 hour drum n mixes that are flawless. Do i really need to start mucking about with the grids ? It seems to me that it works just fine without having to beat-grid everything..
@deknight1212
9 жыл бұрын
Eventually you will run into a track that wasn't analyzed by traktor as precise as you would like. In this case you will want to manually beatgrid the song. Luckily this is a simple thing to do.
I've had problems with 2.5 there's definitely a huge learning curve with traktor. For example: I've had to analysed my music several times because half the tracks in a folder would reset the bpm to 0.00. what causes that?
im well aware that lots of people push there snares or claps a few miliseconds back or forward sometimes, in their productions! shold we still set in on the snares?
hello, I have a question. I am new to traktor (moved over from ableton djing)...Can you elaborate on what you meant by batch analyzing your tracks to the master clock and beat gridding. You stated this at: 6:20. This seems like an extremely helpful process and I would love to know how it works. Thanks a million.
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I would say taking the time to make your beatgrids synced, sounds better than and is just as hard as traditional beatmatching
Thanks for this! When you set a beat marker I'm assuming it's NOT telling Traktor "This is beat one of the bar"?
ok so i tried this and i set a second grid marker right as the tempo changes but when i go to adjust the bpm of the rest of the song it only moves the grid from the first marker up to the second marker. i can't seem to get the grid after the second marker to adjust. thanks for your help and the song I'm trying to do this to is L'amour By Bingo Players at about 38 seconds it changes tempo then it builds up and goes back to 127 bpm but when it goes back to 127 it doesn't match with beginning
So lets say i have set the master clock to 130bpm.And i have two tracks playing,one with 132bpm,other with 134bpm.I want to sync the 134bpm track to the 132 bpm track.When i hit sync,the track will be synced to that 132bpm track or the 130bpm master clock tempo?I hope you understand my question..
If you're trying to beatmatching either of those... If ain't wrong, Beatsync will sync your beats, Temposync will only sync the tempo of the decks.
if you were starting off as a dj , what set up would you go with?
Spot on.
Can I adjust sections of a tracks beat grid without adjusting others? Some of my music has constantly drifting beat grids. In serato this can be managed by adjusting each beat individually if required.
Hi Ean, hope all good at your part, I have tried all possible things to hear the internal metronome on my Traktor Version 2.10 but i cant hear the tick sound. I am actually trying to sync my Machine studio with S4. Though i know the process how to sync both, but the problem is the tick sound in traktor. Kindly advice the possibilities.
Should I have beatsynch or temposynch for basic beatmatching?
thanks alot man good shat
Hello, I have a question, I have a DN-HC4500 with the latest Traktor Pro software but my problem is that when I try to Cue a song say on the first beat and then I hit the Cue button it does not Cue - It moves back a little. - Can you help me with this?
That's true but i just love the quantized looping possibility
Very helpful,how do you open the output menu? .
Hi Ean, Im trying to beatgrid my tracks but am having real problems. Evertime i move the beatgrid forwards on the front of a track it goes out on the back!! Please help this is driving me crazy!
Firstly, thanx for your great vids! Quick question to Ean: I like to mix in TempoSync mode but is it worthwhile to edit my beat grids in Beatsync mode (in order to clean up tracks AMAP) as in your video and then switch to TempoSync for actual mixing? TempoSync is very important for mixing into other DJs last tracks and making a smooth transition.
so should we do this to every song before we play it in a set? thats over 900 songs for me?
Is there a way to set 2 or more markers, then change the BPM of the track for each section? Everytime I try to change the BPM of my second marker it changes the whole track's BPM.. it's pretty annoying!! Thanks!
thanks this really helped me out :D
not sure if you'l get this ean but i have a question. maybe somebody else could help me out with this. i have a few songs that change BPM from about 128 to 90ish back up to 128. i have the beatgrid set up for the 128 to mix in and out from the beginning and end of the tracks, but what if i wanted to keep the 128 beatgrid but also wanted to have a beatgrid on beat where the bpm of the song drops to 90? is that possible to do?
Great video now i have to get to work to beatgrid all my songs LOL
Thank you!
hmm... i do that with the "tap"-button on my controller. takes 10 seconds or something. also after that the beatgrid is usually correct in terms of 1234. if not i move it with "beat-left/right". ...maybe i'm missing something here, but i think the result is the same and it's faster and easier.
Great vid, but that last bit about snares always being aligned better than kicks, I don't get that. In house music it's not uncommon to shift the snares/claps slightly off the grid to loosen up the groove, but kicks are kept rigid.
Will this work for me because a lot of my miami bass tracks at 128 bpm , drift off beat grid by the second verse ? I'm in internal mode and using the built-in soundcard
Great you know who I was reffering to, so you know I was telling a "newb" that learning how to beat match the old way still has value. Also the question was rhetorical and followed by a hypothetical situation in which I state the reader didn't learn how to beat match so he would be unable to use his cd's effectively. (However i made that point through an analogy, sorry if you didn't quite notice that) I'm sure YOU are a fine DJ, don't take my initial comment so personally.
I have a few tracks like that and I think the only solution is to manually mix them ie.don't use sync I think there are ways to re-record the tracks to fix them but I don't think there's an easy solution ?
thanks for your help. im having a consistant problem with traktoe now for a yr. it wont let me analyze tracks indivdualy , do u have a tutorial on that . it is very frustrating.
Thank you
Nice tutorial, thanks. I have Traktor Pro 2 the latest one. For any reason I cant move the grid beat. Thats ridiculous...not even with the T5 Controller. Any idea why ???? Im sure Im not the only oneeee.
@Jorge.O85
8 жыл бұрын
+top kekek oohhh I seee ! ok, I ll do that, see what happens. thanks for your help. Have a nice day !
awesome!
What's your best advise for a song that sounds totally matched to the tick at the start but then drifts off at the end of the track? Thanks.
Hi, this technique works only when you have good-quality MP3's, where the recording still has enough dynamic for traktor to get gthe grid right. What when you have tracks, recorded low gain, or lesser quality, and/ or where the drumsection is not explicit (enough anymore)? Mostly you'll have problems with tempo varying tracks, or due to jitter because of recordings from vynil. Tnx in adv for answer :-)
dude.. you are so prehistoric.. good for you son..
Could you make AKAI MPK Mini tutorial.. I mean how to fully connect to Fl Studio / traktor . :)
More importantly, the reason for using sync and prepping your trax is so you can do way more complicated one of a kind mixes that will set you apart from all of the djs that just blend one track and then the next. Especially if you plan to incorporate complex loops, fx and sampling, you almost have to use some sync to get those layers and parts to sit right within the mix. The biggest joke is when someone talks smack though about sync and they can only blend, cant cut, cant scratch, cant ...
Why do you set the grid of the second song (128Bpm) with a 127 bpm tick?
Can you show us how to map our own supercombos?
I cant afford the original controller , what could you recomend as a substitute budget model? Thank you
it will sync to whatever is master. there can only be one master.
well i dj, at 4 clubs every week with different types of music ranging from rock/metal dubstep dnb garage speed garage bassline house club classics dance comercial so i need alot of tracks specially when i get some requests like play the fresh prince of bel air theme and such...
Would you recommend the beatsync or the temposync for live djs? I feel like you wouldnt have enough time to adjust a grid while putting on a performance.
Hi. I get no sound from the mic when I want to use the Traktor recorder Is there a setting for this ?
good but how can i grid this with 70s funkdrums from livedrummers?
can you pls share the font you are using inside traktor?
Its easier to use the Metronome in the Grid Panel and match the metronome to the song in external mixing mode.
tq so much
pls help me i can't record my dj set on traktor 2 on external mode i have audio mk2 traktor sound card but i don't no how to record my set ......
Sometimes when I sync 2 decks and hit my mouse button to start the song while one is already playing, it delays and thus I can never get them to align. But sometimes it works fine. I use Traktor Audio 2. Is this a latency issue or software problem? I have reloaded the software many times but the problem still exists. Thanks I’m your newest subscriber.
@AAVEZARR
4 жыл бұрын
check if the "snap" its on (you can find it upside as "S") , it stick n sync the beginnin to the beagrid when you press play
Lets be honest. Unless your using vinyl still (which if you are and your ripping it up much respect and love) beat matching is not a problem. Once DJing went digital, which includes bpm counters and very precise pitch adjustments, beat matching became the least complicated part of the mix. Seriously, people that make a big deal out of using sync show that they are not as good as they think they are cause OG vinyl djs can drop a track on the fly and have it beat matched within 2 or 3 beats.
Traktor and Serato which is the best for syncing?
what happens when one tries to do the same with shifting songs like 80's 70's music ? How does that go about ? Thx masta guru.
I had all my songs locked with beat grid and all but after I think the step of analyzing a couple of new songs I obtained, traktor erased all my beatgrids and hot cues. Anyone can help?
What's the song near the end of the video please?
Another very important reason for getting your Beatgrids tight is that if you DON´T, your Traktor FX will always be out of time. A Beatmasher or a Gater sound horrible on an "non-gridded" track.
Anyone have any advise on using wavs with traktor? Wavs have terrible tag support so I'm struggling to edit any tags for them
Anybody knows the song that goes in the background?
when that shit happens i just match the bpm try and hit it on beat if the grid is off beat and if i dont i just pitch bend until the beat is matched.