finally, i was looking for something like this for days. How my hands position should be.

@LearnBeachVolleyballFast

2 жыл бұрын

Amazing! The point of this channel/project is to sorta provide the answers that other places don't! Hope it helps! :)

Thanks man! this video had more good pointers than all of the other 7 videos combined.

@LearnBeachVolleyballFast

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha that's crazy! I guess this video includes a lot of very crucial parts of the hand form itself which sometimes is the biggest problem for people.. So that makes sense I guess! :)

Another great video! I used the technique of forming your setting hands with your hips this past winter very effectively on entry level 3, 4, 5 & 6 grade indoor program and look forward to using it in a few weeks when we start our 18 & under beach academy. I felt this was a solid technique but have never seen anyone else use it until now. I appreciate your teaching style and your ability to include nuggets of info that others either overlook or ignore.

@LearnBeachVolleyballFast

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :) That sounds amazing, hope it works out well! Where are you located? Hahah yeah my brain just works like that. Kills me to leave out small but crucial details that I know will help people so much or save their time a lot. Didn't find this type of information delivery about beach volleyball online when I started playing, so decided to attempt to change that..! :)

@timmatelski9525

3 жыл бұрын

@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast We are in Oshkosh Wisconsin south of Green Bay and home of the Waupaca Boatride tournament. Our beach program is AVP Academy Fox Valley, Impact volleyball club. Looking forward to the final couple of videos in this series. Keep the great content coming:)

Another way to get the right hands position, would be to form a triangle with your thumbs and indexes, then touch the middle fingers, maybe even the ring fingers, and then separate your hands a little bit from there. I'm not sure if touching the ring fingers would be too much of an angle, you'd be a better judge of that. I came up with the idea while watching your video. I paused it right before you showed the hands on hips technique, to practice the hands position and came up with it. 😅 So thank you for that! Great detailed video! Like many others have said, not many videos out there covering these fine but important points!

@LearnBeachVolleyballFast

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Interesting! I have heard the triangle analogy many times but never 100% resonated with it but haven't thought so much about why. Anyway you got me to try again, and the bottom of my triangle is not completely flat, it "hangs down" a little in the middle, and also the two other sides of the triangle (the ones that go upwards at an angle from the base) aren't straight, they "bulge out" a little bit in the middle. So all in all the shape I see is a bit like a triangle but "rounder." If I make an actual triangle, I feel like my hands are a bit too stiff for good handsetting. That's just with my hands though, other hand shapes/sizes could for sure have an another experience! Interesting about your add about adding the middle and possibly ring fingers though, that I agree with fully! For me when I have the wrists in the "full back" position, also the ring fingers touch eachother. Having them not touch leads to a hand position that is "shallower" that is possible to set from also but I would mayyybe say that it's a more typical hand position for indoor volleyball setters that need a bit of a quicker release! I like these comments because they also make me look at even more details! :)

Good video with some good points to think about. One thing I would personally like to see is tips on setting a ball that is either A: passed with a lot of spin or B: passed very high. These seem to be the balls that are more prone to doubling.

@LearnBeachVolleyballFast

5 жыл бұрын

Broderick Thanks! :) They for sure are more prone to doubling! :) How to deal with these is one of the lessons I'm planning to have in the "advanced" part of my in-depth handsetting course I'll create sooner or later! But maybe I'll make a KZread-video about it too, we'll see! :) But the short version of the lesson is this (requires that you can already consistently set easier balls cleanly!): It seems like many people want to do the handsetting movement slower to make sure they have enough "time with hands on the ball" or something like that to stop the spin. What I realized is that what I think is the right thing to do is to do the complete opposite, go for it even faster and with even more confidence. Yes, the touch will be shorter, but the friction between the ball and the fingers will be greater that normally (ball has more than normal momentum downwards, and hands have more than normal momentum upwards), which will actually stop the spin! Take a ball, go outside, toss it super high with massive spin and try it out... Just go for it with confidence and after a while you'll probably learn it and start trusting it! If you haven't seen the statistics video in the handsetting series (I think it's part 5, the one done in powerpoint), I'd highly suggest you go and watch it because it's very applicable to this scenario as well (the chances are that bumpsetting a very high spinning ball will give so bad results anyway that statistically you'd be better off handsetting them even if you'd double contact every now and then!) Hope that helps! :)

Way better then last viseo i commented on more direct to the point about what common mistakes are and making correction. Only way to get better is video say 2 or 3 common mistakes on the topics you bring up and show them in action catching the mistakes. Then chime in as you did here with details that are better then other videos. Most others are vague. This one was a big step in the right direction. Very good job! I am curious about the other videos i hope if u added more i saw them. I'll double check. Oh yah with the wind on the beach you should put thatbin context too. I say that because many including me fair setting in windy weather so maybe showing in detail common mistakes hand setting in wind involving not just hands, legs vut timing etc and then correction of those. Thank you for this video.

@LearnBeachVolleyballFast

5 жыл бұрын

Paul Met Thanks so much for the feedback, this is so valuable to hear for me. I will definately take this with me and make even better videos in the future, I agree with your points and it's more of a "time" issue for me to create the videos the eay they should be created. I'm about to drop all work except beach volleyball coaching and building on this channel this fall so hopefully I'll be able to produce better and better content! Growing subscriber numbers and comments like this really help alot with giving me even more drive to create this project into the huge masterpiece I can see it one day will be! :) Thank you so much.

@pmvball73

5 жыл бұрын

Learn Beach Volleyball Fast the value yes is common mistakes catching them in action and the you correcting but specifically when you show what others dont due to your details like when you showed wrists flexing inward and when u give insite of people not realizing a few mistakes and you cstching that and making us the public aware of it because many simply are oblivious of what we are doing wrong. The stand with hands on waste to be honest many know of that tip so its nice you showed it and how it makes the bowl but many already know that when you show the rlease and how to be even and how four fingers leave ball same time is more valuable. So it seems like we dont intersect the ball when setting but wait for ball to come in and catch with loose fingers and wrists not bent straight back. Some other videos i felt you went a little bit off tangent getting more into philosiphy not direct detailed overlooked and not ever explained details thats where value is. Also, you did some drills i was like oh god honestly.no way im going to la fitness gym and doing some drilling myself against a wall i would get ultra bored so fastni know practice makes perfect but i dont see people that play 2 on 2 beachvball doing those things just opinion. I wish i had a cosch in person but not in boston nothing here its not like la or miami l. Appreciate details.

Hi, this is really a great video! I saw some other tutorial in which they use the wrists more, like deliberately moving them inwards when contacting the ball and outwards when releasing. What do you think about it? Thanks!

@LearnBeachVolleyballFast

Жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks! :) So, setting standards have changed over time, been different in different places etc so various techniques have developed. In my mind, very simplified there are 3 "speeds" of setting that usually happen. Slowest is deliberately bringing wrists down as you mentioned. Middle is what I believe I do, absorbing ball with wrists and fingers (not deliberately bringing down just absorbing) while pushing outwards with legs, shoulders and elbows, creating an "only outwards movement" of the ball while it is in the hands of the setter. Quickest is the "indoor set" absorbing only with fingers while wrists and other body parts push the ball outwards, creating a super fast touch. According to the FIVB rules that I have played by all of my career, the slowest of these (deliberately bringing wrists down) is for sure a lift and an illegal handset, and might have been this way for the whole history of FIVB beach volleyball, not entirely sure. However, in the USA and I think especially 20-30 years ago this was much more common. I believe about 2 weeks ago I watched some AVP and saw these types of sets not being called for lifting. Playing wise, if I play with someone who sets in this way, my timing for my attacking approach gets all messed up, so for me this is bad setting not only rule-wise but I also don't like attacking these sets. That could possibly change though if I got used to a setter that set like that and still did it with a consistent tempo - I'd just have to learn to read this setter in a different way than I am used to. This I have never done but it's probably possible, but where I play these sets are illegal anyway so I haven't quite seen the point in doing that. The second of the "quicknesses" is what I like most, both as a setter and as the attacker. (More about that in a second!) The quickest of the speeds (indoor set) I do not like for beach volleyball because I believe it takes away some very valuable aspects of the game in terms of setter-hitter connection. Not sure if you are aware, but there is some current unclarity about the rules from FIVBs side right now, they just a couple of weeks ago released some new guidelines about setting. According to these new guidelines the slowest tempo that you mentioned is definitely illegal (like it probably always has been under FIVB rules), but it is actually a bit unclear at the moment if the middle speed is allowed or if only "indoor handsetting" speed is allowed. My latest video (as of today, 16th of July 2022) talks about this more in depth and in the comments section I have clarified a lot of things also that was maybe unclear in the video. So if you want a deep dive into that go check the video and the comments out, here's a link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/onaKpJiMe6zKk84.html Bu back to your original question, the short answer is: the technique you saw in the other video has been illegal under FIVB rules already before, but will for sure(!) be illegal with these new guidelines. Might be legal in AVP, depends maybe of ref not sure. I believe it was the way one was supposed to set some 20-30 years ago, especially in the USA. In my opinion makes timing difficult for hitter but this could be because of lack of experience of trying to learn it from my side. Hope this helps! :)

@mauromazzaro89

Жыл бұрын

@@LearnBeachVolleyballFast In fact the other video is from the USA, so it would explain the difference in technique. Anyway I find that way even more difficult because it's adding an extra movement and for me it doesn't help with double contacts. Thanks for the explanation! Really appreciated :)

@LearnBeachVolleyballFast

Жыл бұрын

@@mauromazzaro89 Yess, makes total sense! :) Hope you find your solutions that work! :)

hi thanks for the info. can we apply that way of handsetting to indoor and vice versa?

@LearnBeachVolleyballFast

5 жыл бұрын

Hmm! Good question! So there definately are differences between indoor and beach setting, but at the same time, indoor setters with the "soft fingers" (that I think I talked about in this video, basically hands/fingers molding around the ball), could technically just do what they do indoor and bring it to the beach and it would be mostly fine. So I actually think that in this video, I'm not talking about anything that would be bad for indoor setters.. but I have also never been an indoor setter so I could have missed something! :)

genuis

@LearnBeachVolleyballFast

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Hope it helps! :)